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Moo
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A Federal court has ruled that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not divine.
I don't know how his worshipers will cope.
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Huia
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Well, co-incidently, today there is a wedding being celebrated in Akaroa (a small seaside town on Bank's Peninsula in Canterbury NZ) by members of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Just as well American Federal courts have no juristriction here ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Piglet
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Originally posted by Moo:
... I don't know how his worshipers will cope.
The same way we coped when God created Richard Dawkins? ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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The same as everyone else in the US. The Federal Court, nor any other part of government*, has jurisdiction to rule on matters of theology or belief.
*the includes the Republican Party, or at least anyone they get elected to office, and county clerks.
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Leorning Cniht
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If you tell the government in good faith that your beliefs require you to wear a piece of kitchen equipment on your head, I don't think it's really the government's place to tell you that you have a fake religion and it's going to disregard it.
On the other hand, if you tell the government you are required to wear the pasta strainer, and are subsequently found to routinely drive bare-headed, you would appear to be prima facie guilty of perjury.
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Welease Woderwick
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I worry that schism might be inevitable - Farfarelli against Fusilli, possibly.
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Bibaculus
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The court seems to have taken a common sense view in deciding that the FSM is satire, not religion, and no one actually bases their life on belief in the FSM as a real entity. Well done the court.
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Doone
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I think this persecution will be just the mission boost it needs ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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que sais-je
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Originally posted by Bibaculus:
The court seems to have taken a common sense view in deciding that the FSM is satire, not religion, and no one actually bases their life on belief in the FSM as a real entity. Well done the court.
Didn't require a lot of judicial insight! The offical website Pastafarian website itself says: "Pastafarianism ... is a well-known parody religion that satirizes the teachings of Intelligent Design in public schools across Kansas."
On the other hand the number of followers is increasing. Is there some point at which it becomes a religion? (Terry Pratchet's 'Small Gods' might serve as a guide here).
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Boogie
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Originally posted by Doone:
I think this persecution will be just the mission boost it needs
No such thing as bad publicity?
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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Originally posted by que sais-je:
Is there some point at which it becomes a religion?
When it has a schism. It can't be a religion until there are True Believers™ and Hereticks™
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Baptist Trainfan
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While I agree, can't you have Don't Knows™ as well? ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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jacobsen
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I am a pastafarian agnostic with doubts. If it's wholemeal, can it be the One True Pasta?
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Chocoholic
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quote:
Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
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Originally posted by que sais-je:
Is there some point at which it becomes a religion?
When it has a schism. It can't be a religion until there are True Believers™ and Hereticks™
And rotas, there needs to be rotas.
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Stetson
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Originally posted by que sais-je:
quote:
Originally posted by Bibaculus:
The court seems to have taken a common sense view in deciding that the FSM is satire, not religion, and no one actually bases their life on belief in the FSM as a real entity. Well done the court.
Didn't require a lot of judicial insight! The offical website Pastafarian website itself says: "Pastafarianism ... is a well-known parody religion that satirizes the teachings of Intelligent Design in public schools across Kansas."
I'd be interested to know how a court would rule in regards to The Church Of The SubGenius, which from what I've seen, does not portray itself as a parody as explicitly as the Pastafarians do. (Even though it's pretty obvious that's what it is.)
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molopata
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Originally posted by jacobsen:
I am a pastafarian agnostic with doubts. If it's wholemeal, can it be the One True Pasta?
That would be more correctly referred to as an agnocchi.
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Piglet
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Quotes file! ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
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no prophet's flag is set so...
Proceed to see sea
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No rulings on Dudeism. Probably can't be bothered.
(Code fix)
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Hedgehog
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Am I correct that this thread is replacing the old "Random Tangents" (a/k/a "Random Tandems") thread just for stray thoughts that are not worthy of a separate thread? The title makes me think so, even if all the posts so far have been related.
If I am wrong, I apologize for posting something completely unconnected with what has gone before. But if I am correct:
The actor to play the new companion on Doctor Who has been announced: Pearl Mackie, playing "Bill." But what is weird is this: in her brief character introduction shown on April 23, she is wearing a Prince t-shirt.
A tribute to the late artist? No...it was filmed before he died. It is just a freak coincidence.
Or Peter Capaldi and Ms. Mackie came back in the TARDIS after Prince died specifically to film her introduction with the shirt on.
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
# 107
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I started this thread because the old random tangents thread wasn't around any more. I didn't think my topic was worth a whole thread to itself, so I gave it the title Interesting Miscellany.
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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And, the Doctor Who thread seems to have disappeared into the time vortex.
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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I had a Ship dream last night - in which Vladimir Putin was a temporary Purg Host. Firm but fair, people, firm but fair. And we were all in New Zealand.
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Lyda*Rose
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Whoa.
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Golden Key
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Was he wrestling a bear? Or the other Purg hosts? And does this mean that Mother Russia lays claim to NZ?
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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There was a lot of digging involved, and did you know the normal mode of transport in NZ is by bouncing pink kangaroo?
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Doone
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Oh, good Lord, my bones, my poor old bones!
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Eutychus
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
I had a Ship dream last night - in which Vladimir Putin was a temporary Purg Host.
Who was he replacing? Enquiring minds want to know.
Also, was it a job swap? Does one of us get to be temporary Russian president?
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
did you know the normal mode of transport in NZ is by bouncing pink kangaroo?
In a land populated by Hobbits and Orcs, Elves and Dwarfs anything is possible.
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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I don't think he was replacing anyone, Eutychus - just doing a guest gig. But it has to be said the Board was quiet. Very quiet.
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Piglet
Islander
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
There was a lot of digging involved ...
Have you been looking at one of those web-sites that tell you where you'd end up if you could dig from a given point on the planet and come out the other side? And if you started in Russia, would you come out in New Zealand?
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no prophet's flag is set so...
Proceed to see sea
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
I had a Ship dream last night - in which Vladimir Putin was a temporary Purg Host.
Who was he replacing? Enquiring minds want to know.
Also, was it a job swap? Does one of us get to be temporary Russian president?
Could this be a contest? Which host looks best partially dressed on a horse!
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jedijudy
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Which host looks best partially dressed on a horse!
At least Putin wasn't subbing for a Heaven Host, because all I have to say is, no matter how much y'all beg and plead, the answer is NO! ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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jedijudy
Organist of the Jedi Temple
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Well, maybe if I can have an X-wing for my trouble. But, no pictures.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Not even on a Taun taun? Ah gwon, gwon, gwon.
A lizard? Seriously a Tuantaun is a lizard? A fur-covered, camel-faced creature on a freaking FROZEN! planet is supposed to be a LIZARD??!!!
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jedijudy
Organist of the Jedi Temple
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Hmmm, the Star Wars universe it is. Surprised you should not be. Especially since Star Wars Day one week away is. Hmmph.
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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If warm to stay, shelter inside you must. Comment about lizard it is, main complaint will not be.
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jedijudy
Organist of the Jedi Temple
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And we thought they smelled bad on the outside!
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
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I came across this video which I hope you enjoy.
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SusanDoris
Incurable Optimist
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Originally posted by Moo:
A Federal court has ruled that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not divine.
I don't know how his worshipers will cope.
Moo
I had never heard of the FSM until I started on message boards! My granddaughters, brought up by quietly atheist parents, were talking about RE one day, and I told them about the FSM and said that if you replace the word God (god) anywhere with FSM, it all makes just as much sense!!
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SusanDoris
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As this is a random-type thread, may I ask if anyone has read Sapiens' by Yuval Noah Harari? It's my current talking book and I'm about half-way through. I'm not keen on the rather abrasive style in which it is written, and there are a few things I'd quibble about but the idea that our species survives so well because of an imagined order, not an imposed one from any non-human power is interesting.
(Or should this be in All Saints?)
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The5thMary
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I worry that schism might be inevitable - Farfarelli against Fusilli, possibly.
That sounds a bit FAR fetched and perhaps FUTile.
But, that's just me.
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jacobsen
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It's the monster bit which worries me. Flying spag -no problem.
Lasagna, ye faithful believers.
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Moo
Ship's tough old bird
# 107
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Here's an interesting letter exchange.
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Welease Woderwick
Sister Incubus Nightmare
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It is sad that suing the pants off Quaker Oats Inc. would be most unquakerly.
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Penny S
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It would be interesting to see the attorney's response.
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