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Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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A Federal court has ruled that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not divine.
I don't know how his worshipers will cope.
Moo
Posted by Huia (# 3473) on
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Well, co-incidently, today there is a wedding being celebrated in Akaroa (a small seaside town on Bank's Peninsula in Canterbury NZ) by members of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
Just as well American Federal courts have no juristriction here
Huia
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Moo:
... I don't know how his worshipers will cope.
The same way we coped when God created Richard Dawkins?
Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on
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The same as everyone else in the US. The Federal Court, nor any other part of government*, has jurisdiction to rule on matters of theology or belief.
*the includes the Republican Party, or at least anyone they get elected to office, and county clerks.
Posted by Leorning Cniht (# 17564) on
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If you tell the government in good faith that your beliefs require you to wear a piece of kitchen equipment on your head, I don't think it's really the government's place to tell you that you have a fake religion and it's going to disregard it.
On the other hand, if you tell the government you are required to wear the pasta strainer, and are subsequently found to routinely drive bare-headed, you would appear to be prima facie guilty of perjury.
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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I worry that schism might be inevitable - Farfarelli against Fusilli, possibly.
Posted by Bibaculus (# 18528) on
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The court seems to have taken a common sense view in deciding that the FSM is satire, not religion, and no one actually bases their life on belief in the FSM as a real entity. Well done the court.
Posted by Doone (# 18470) on
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I think this persecution will be just the mission boost it needs
Posted by que sais-je (# 17185) on
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Originally posted by Bibaculus:
The court seems to have taken a common sense view in deciding that the FSM is satire, not religion, and no one actually bases their life on belief in the FSM as a real entity. Well done the court.
Didn't require a lot of judicial insight! The offical website Pastafarian website itself says: "Pastafarianism ... is a well-known parody religion that satirizes the teachings of Intelligent Design in public schools across Kansas."
On the other hand the number of followers is increasing. Is there some point at which it becomes a religion? (Terry Pratchet's 'Small Gods' might serve as a guide here).
Posted by Boogie (# 13538) on
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Originally posted by Doone:
I think this persecution will be just the mission boost it needs
No such thing as bad publicity?
Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on
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Originally posted by que sais-je:
Is there some point at which it becomes a religion?
When it has a schism. It can't be a religion until there are True Believers™ and Hereticks™
Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on
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While I agree, can't you have Don't Knows™ as well?
Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on
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I am a pastafarian agnostic with doubts. If it's wholemeal, can it be the One True Pasta?
Posted by Lamb Chopped (# 5528) on
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Could we have ecumenical meetings with Pastafarians? I'm thinking a potluck, me.
Posted by Chocoholic (# 4655) on
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
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Originally posted by que sais-je:
Is there some point at which it becomes a religion?
When it has a schism. It can't be a religion until there are True Believers™ and Hereticks™
And rotas, there needs to be rotas.
Posted by Stetson (# 9597) on
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Originally posted by que sais-je:
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Originally posted by Bibaculus:
The court seems to have taken a common sense view in deciding that the FSM is satire, not religion, and no one actually bases their life on belief in the FSM as a real entity. Well done the court.
Didn't require a lot of judicial insight! The offical website Pastafarian website itself says: "Pastafarianism ... is a well-known parody religion that satirizes the teachings of Intelligent Design in public schools across Kansas."
I'd be interested to know how a court would rule in regards to The Church Of The SubGenius, which from what I've seen, does not portray itself as a parody as explicitly as the Pastafarians do. (Even though it's pretty obvious that's what it is.)
[ 17. April 2016, 07:47: Message edited by: Stetson ]
Posted by molopata (# 9933) on
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Originally posted by jacobsen:
I am a pastafarian agnostic with doubts. If it's wholemeal, can it be the One True Pasta?
That would be more correctly referred to as an agnocchi.
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Quotes file!
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on
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No rulings on Dudeism. Probably can't be bothered.
(Code fix)
[ 19. April 2016, 17:14: Message edited by: Firenze ]
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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Am I correct that this thread is replacing the old "Random Tangents" (a/k/a "Random Tandems") thread just for stray thoughts that are not worthy of a separate thread? The title makes me think so, even if all the posts so far have been related.
If I am wrong, I apologize for posting something completely unconnected with what has gone before. But if I am correct:
The actor to play the new companion on Doctor Who has been announced: Pearl Mackie, playing "Bill." But what is weird is this: in her brief character introduction shown on April 23, she is wearing a Prince t-shirt.
A tribute to the late artist? No...it was filmed before he died. It is just a freak coincidence.
Or Peter Capaldi and Ms. Mackie came back in the TARDIS after Prince died specifically to film her introduction with the shirt on.
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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I started this thread because the old random tangents thread wasn't around any more. I didn't think my topic was worth a whole thread to itself, so I gave it the title Interesting Miscellany.
Moo
Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on
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And, the Doctor Who thread seems to have disappeared into the time vortex.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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I had a Ship dream last night - in which Vladimir Putin was a temporary Purg Host. Firm but fair, people, firm but fair. And we were all in New Zealand.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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Whoa.
Posted by Golden Key (# 1468) on
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Was he wrestling a bear? Or the other Purg hosts? And does this mean that Mother Russia lays claim to NZ?
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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There was a lot of digging involved, and did you know the normal mode of transport in NZ is by bouncing pink kangaroo?
Posted by Doone (# 18470) on
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Oh, good Lord, my bones, my poor old bones!
Posted by Eutychus (# 3081) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
I had a Ship dream last night - in which Vladimir Putin was a temporary Purg Host.
Who was he replacing? Enquiring minds want to know.
Also, was it a job swap? Does one of us get to be temporary Russian president?
[ 26. April 2016, 08:18: Message edited by: Eutychus ]
Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
did you know the normal mode of transport in NZ is by bouncing pink kangaroo?
In a land populated by Hobbits and Orcs, Elves and Dwarfs anything is possible.
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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I don't think he was replacing anyone, Eutychus - just doing a guest gig. But it has to be said the Board was quiet. Very quiet.
[ 26. April 2016, 08:46: Message edited by: Firenze ]
Posted by Piglet (# 11803) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
There was a lot of digging involved ...
Have you been looking at one of those web-sites that tell you where you'd end up if you could dig from a given point on the planet and come out the other side? And if you started in Russia, would you come out in New Zealand?
Posted by no prophet's flag is set so... (# 15560) on
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
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Originally posted by Firenze:
I had a Ship dream last night - in which Vladimir Putin was a temporary Purg Host.
Who was he replacing? Enquiring minds want to know.
Also, was it a job swap? Does one of us get to be temporary Russian president?
Could this be a contest? Which host looks best partially dressed on a horse!
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Which host looks best partially dressed on a horse!
At least Putin wasn't subbing for a Heaven Host, because all I have to say is, no matter how much y'all beg and plead, the answer is NO!
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Not even on a Taun taun? Ah gwon, gwon, gwon.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Well, maybe if I can have an X-wing for my trouble. But, no pictures.
Posted by lilBuddha (# 14333) on
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Not even on a Taun taun? Ah gwon, gwon, gwon.
A lizard? Seriously a Tuantaun is a lizard? A fur-covered, camel-faced creature on a freaking FROZEN! planet is supposed to be a LIZARD??!!!
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Hmmm, the Star Wars universe it is. Surprised you should not be. Especially since Star Wars Day one week away is. Hmmph.
Posted by Alan Cresswell (# 31) on
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If warm to stay, shelter inside you must. Comment about lizard it is, main complaint will not be.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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And we thought they smelled bad on the outside!
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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Lizards smell better on the inside?
Posted by Carex (# 9643) on
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There is, at least, some humor in the world today. Even at a Presidential level:
Obama's comments at the White House correspondent's dinner.
C. J. Cregg takes a White House press conference.
And the Twitter exchange between Michele Obama and Prince Harry regarding the Invictus Games. (I couldn't get a link to work, but it is easy to find.)
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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I came across this video which I hope you enjoy.
Moo
Posted by SusanDoris (# 12618) on
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Originally posted by Moo:
A Federal court has ruled that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is not divine.
I don't know how his worshipers will cope.
Moo
I had never heard of the FSM until I started on message boards! My granddaughters, brought up by quietly atheist parents, were talking about RE one day, and I told them about the FSM and said that if you replace the word God (god) anywhere with FSM, it all makes just as much sense!!
Posted by SusanDoris (# 12618) on
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As this is a random-type thread, may I ask if anyone has read Sapiens' by Yuval Noah Harari? It's my current talking book and I'm about half-way through. I'm not keen on the rather abrasive style in which it is written, and there are a few things I'd quibble about but the idea that our species survives so well because of an imagined order, not an imposed one from any non-human power is interesting.
(Or should this be in All Saints?)
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Not unless you need sympathy for listening to it...
We do have a book thread...
Firenze
Heaven Host
Posted by The5thMary (# 12953) on
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
I worry that schism might be inevitable - Farfarelli against Fusilli, possibly.
That sounds a bit FAR fetched and perhaps FUTile.
But, that's just me.
Posted by jacobsen (# 14998) on
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It's the monster bit which worries me. Flying spag -no problem.
Lasagna, ye faithful believers.
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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Here's an interesting letter exchange.
Moo
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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It is sad that suing the pants off Quaker Oats Inc. would be most unquakerly.
Posted by Penny S (# 14768) on
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It would be interesting to see the attorney's response.
Posted by Doone (# 18470) on
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I bet it went very, very quiet
Posted by Hedgehog (# 14125) on
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So I drove a different way in to work today, to try to avoid some road construction on my regular route. On the way, I saw a gate across a driveway, bearing the sign; "Gate Must Be Kept Locked At All Times."
Now, my literalist nature instantly thought: "Well, that rather defeats the purpose of a gate. Why not just put up a fence?"
Of course, my common sense then pointed out that the sign did not mean what it said, but that explaining that "the gate is to be unlocked only by authorized personnel to allow vehicles in or out and then the gate is to be immediately re-locked" was really a bit much to put on a sign.
But these things bother me. The sign, as written, is nonsense.
Oh, and then there turned out to be road construction on this new route as well. Delaware's Dept. of Transportation is devoted to the concept that roadways should be a complete impediment to travel.
Posted by Drifting Star (# 12799) on
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We once had insurance for our caravan that said the wheel clamp had to be on and locked at all times. I phoned them up and asked if that really meant it had to be clamped while it was being towed. They said yes.
We changed our insurer.
Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on
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I like signs at supermarkets which say, "Parent and child parking".
I always expect to see a father and a couple of children disconsolately standing by the signpost while mum is busy going round the store.
This is even better - but do they expect folk to lie down in the space?
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
A good friend sent me this link. Knowing my involvement with the Ship, he thought it might be of interest to Shipmates.
Posted by ArachnidinElmet (# 17346) on
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Speaking of road signs, I've just passed a road on the way past an airport, clearly the site of much speeding, that reads:
"Remember: This is a motorway, not a runway."
It certainly makes it point memorably.
Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on
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During a time when so much bad stuff is going on with law enforcement, etc. I was delighted to hear that one group of inmates broke out of their cell to save the life of a guard who collapsed.
Posted by jedijudy (# 333) on
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Originally posted by lilBuddha on What is the strangest thing you saw this week?:
An artist is sued because he claims he did not paint.
Posted by Lyda*Rose (# 4544) on
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
During a time when so much bad stuff is going on with law enforcement, etc. I was delighted to hear that one group of inmates broke out of their cell to save the life of a guard who collapsed.
I hope the inmates got some consideration on the length of their sentences.
Posted by basso (# 4228) on
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The internet is good for pictures of cute vertebrates. Even some of the arthropods have got a look in the cute division.
The banana slug rarely gets a mention. Pretty interesting page here about a not-very-pretty animal. Squeamish shipmates, use caution before clicking.
Posted by Ariel (# 58) on
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(Sigh) yes, it looks like a yellow slug. Each to their own.
[ 16. July 2016, 20:28: Message edited by: Ariel ]
Posted by Nicolemr (# 28) on
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Really big yellow slugs!
I think they're kinda' cute.
Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on
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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
I like signs at supermarkets which say, "Parent and child parking".
I always expect to see a father and a couple of children disconsolately standing by the signpost while mum is busy going round the store.
This is even better - but do they expect folk to lie down in the space?
I like the sign at my dentist's 'PATIENT CARPARK'
There was once a craft market – indoor, permanent, artists' work displayed in individual alcoves – which had a dad-park: a cosy corner with armchairs, newspapers, tea- and coffee-makers. A brilliant idea. There may have been toddlers' toys too.
GG
Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on
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I passed an Residential Home this morning (itself a euphemism: what else would one do in a home but reside?)
It had a sign on the gate: "Caution, Elderly People". That made me wonder why they should be so dangerous: are they axe-wielding maniacs, or what?
Posted by Firenze (# 619) on
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It's like that sign that crops up round here every time they squeeze another stack of boxes into a Victorian back garden - 'Retirement Flats'. Always think it should be followed by 'Utah'.
Posted by Moo (# 107) on
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Here is a computer animated re-creation of the destruction of Pompeii by Vesuvius. It's fascinating.
Moo
Posted by Welease Woderwick (# 10424) on
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Thanks Moo - amazing!
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