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Originally posted by aredstatemystic:
Here's a charming little video on the history of Grace-St. Luke's in Memphis, Tennessee. It was apparently made in their search for a new Rector. It is full of great Southern mannerisms and tells a good story.

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Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
Am I the only one who feels somewhat intruded on when videoed while I'm praying?

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Belle Ringer:
[qb]I like to think that they depict real moments aren't aren't photographs for which someone posed.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
This last one is at home in Moscow but it's such a splendid photograph, I thought I'd share it. He even appears to be wearing his chandelier-shaped mitre.

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That would be wonderful for the Caption Competition!

 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 
Anglo-Catholic in Carlsbad - St. Michael's-by-the-Sea (why are those names always written with hyphens?) has recorded Masses online.
 

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Posted by FooloftheShip (# 15579) on :
 

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Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
I came across some lovely videos of parts of mass at Notre Dame de Paris:

Second vespers of Christmas.
Baptism of the Lord.
End of the procession on Palm Sunday
Offertory on Palm Sunday
Communion motet
Those were just some of my favourites. Their choir is very fine, something I never knew. (Evidenced by the Vierne mass)

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Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
I came across some lovely videos of parts of mass at Notre Dame de Paris:

Second vespers of Christmas.
Baptism of the Lord.
End of the procession on Palm Sunday
Offertory on Palm Sunday
Communion motet
Those were just some of my favourites. Their choir is very fine, something I never knew. (Evidenced by the Vierne mass)

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
Anglo-Catholic in Carlsbad - St. Michael's-by-the-Sea (why are those names always written with hyphens?) has recorded Masses online.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
Here are some photographs of a recent outdoor patriarchal Liturgy in Ukraine. I've shared photographs of this chalice in the past but now the diskos (paten) can be seen with it. I've never seen anything quite like it.

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You and me both! What remarkable items, and what a fine array of beards Are those nuns of a particular order in one of the pictures?
 

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Posted by CorgiGreta (# 443) on :
 

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Originally posted by Low Treason:

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
Anglo-Catholic in Carlsbad - St. Michael's-by-the-Sea (why are those names always written with hyphens?) has recorded Masses online.

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It is always good to see how other people do things. In this case I am wondering, why two sets of crucifer and torch-bearer? And I have to say their singing is truly dire!

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
Here are some photographs of a recent outdoor patriarchal Liturgy in Ukraine. I've shared photographs of this chalice in the past but now the diskos (paten) can be seen with it. I've never seen anything quite like it.

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You and me both! What remarkable items...

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Indeed. Then, if you're expecting a large congregation and many concelebrants, it makes sense to be prepared.

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Are those nuns of a particular order in one of the pictures?

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
Here are some photographs of a recent outdoor patriarchal Liturgy in Ukraine.

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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
What remarkable items, and what a fine array of beards Are those nuns of a particular order in one of the pictures?

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
This last one is at home in Moscow but it's such a splendid photograph, I thought I'd share it. He even appears to be wearing his chandelier-shaped mitre.

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That would be wonderful for the Caption Competition!

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Originally posted by leo:
Probably of the Order of Wilgefortis (St. Uncumber)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilgefortis

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Originally posted by Chapelhead:

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
Here are some photographs of a recent outdoor patriarchal Liturgy in Ukraine.

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Great photos, but I think you're making this up, as clearly (from left to right) these people are Bernard Hill ('Yosser Hughes'), Peter Ustinov, Bill Bailey, Christopher Lee, and John Thompson.

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Good grief, you're right! Especially about Bill Bailey. All together now: 'Human slaves, in an insect nation - awwhahhhaw!'

(I'm guessing that reference may be a little obscure to some folks?! )
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 
Well, you're all very naughty people! Especially that Chapelhead.

To restore you all to some sort of decorum, here are excerpts from a recent hierarchical Liturgy, showing the Lesser entrance and censing, the Trisagion, and the run-up to the Gospel.

I really wish I got to do this more often.

[ 30. July 2010, 20:39: Message edited by: Michael Astley ]
 

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Posted by Saviour Tortoise (# 4660) on :
 

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Originally posted by Anselmina:
All together now: 'Human slaves, in an insect nation - awwhahhhaw!'

(I'm guessing that reference may be a little obscure to some folks?! )

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Originally posted by leo:
Probably of the Order of Wilgefortis (St. Uncumber)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilgefortis

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I just feed you the straight lines!

Thurible

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Bearded women are 'straight'?
 

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Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :
 
Yes, I know I kicked it off with my ambiguous comment about bearded nuns, but let's not get too far from sensible discussion here people!

Thanks... djo, Eccles host
 

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Posted by sabine (# 3861) on :
 
Dance Party Erupts During Quaker Meeting for Worship



sabine
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 

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Originally posted by Anselmina:

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
This last one is at home in Moscow but it's such a splendid photograph, I thought I'd share it. He even appears to be wearing his chandelier-shaped mitre.

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That would be wonderful for the Caption Competition!

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What a great photo! It reminds me of all those throne room processional scenes you get at the end of Star Wars or Flash Gordon Movies.

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It does, doesn't it? And Metropolitan Hilarion scrubs up well. He seems to always wear an omophor (pallium) in the more ancient white with red crosses rather than one that matches the fabric of the vestments. I quite like that and wish more of our hierarchs did the same.

[ 31. July 2010, 12:53: Message edited by: Michael Astley ]
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 
Actually, a quick google image search revealed that this is quite untrue but he does seem to appear with it often.
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 
Live liturgy from Irish RC churches

Just watched a very interesting Mass from St. Augustine's, Cork, during which the celebrant recited the responsorial psalm himself, saying the word "Response" instead of the actual response, and instead of letting the people say the actual response. Surreal.
 

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Posted by Anselmina (# 3032) on :
 
I've come across something like that, too. Except when the officiant said: 'response', the congregation did the response.
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 

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Originally posted by Anselmina:
I've come across something like that, too. Except when the officiant said: 'response', the congregation did the response.

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Originally posted by Anselmina:

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
This last one is at home in Moscow but it's such a splendid photograph, I thought I'd share it. He even appears to be wearing his chandelier-shaped mitre.

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That would be wonderful for the Caption Competition!

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What a great photo! It reminds me of all those throne room processional scenes you get at the end of Star Wars or Flash Gordon Movies.

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Originally posted by The Ship's Chaplain:
Whilst searching around on the video website "Youtube" I found some rather excellent examples of Swedish Lutheran liturgy that you might all be interested in viewing.

I have to say that this is my favourite.

The channel is called karpov89 and can be found by visiting http://www.youtube.com/user/karpov89

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Posted by Spiffy (# 5267) on :
 
I've been following along as the Our Lady of Solitude Monastery in Arizona has been building their chapel. Well, they're at the point now where they're installing the reredos.

And my first thought was, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix? Note the phoenix *is* going on the cloister side...

Ah, well, can't help my cultural background.

The building does look pretty nice, and I like the Agnus Dei on the public side of the reredeos.

[ 27. August 2010, 14:54: Message edited by: Spiffy ]
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
Links for the Pope's visit to the UK can be found here.
 

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Posted by Shadowhund (# 9175) on :
 
I can think of several clergy for which this would be a hilariously appropriate recessional as they walk down the aisle.


 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 
I always like watching videos from this church, especially for the joy on the feasts, but I haven't checked for updates for a while and have been delighted to find this video from the end of their Christmas Liturgy.
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
OOoooh, I loved that one, Michael. It was lovely when the singing became slower and almost hushed for the verse une étable est son logement / pour un roi, quelle abaissement (his lodging is a stable; for a king, what humiliation).

-- Mamacita, erstwhile French major.

[ 07. October 2010, 16:08: Message edited by: Mamacita ]
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mamacita:
OOoooh, I loved that one, Michael. It was lovely when the singing became slower and almost hushed for the verse une étable est son logement / pour un roi, quelle abaissement (his lodging is a stable; for a king, what humiliation).

-- Mamacita, erstwhile French major.

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Originally posted by Anselmina:
I've come across something like that, too. Except when the officiant said: 'response', the congregation did the response.

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Wild! Never imagined or experienced that.

I've always thought that reciting the responsorial psalm without printed text for the people is the worst possible way to pray a psalm at Mass. The people spend the time trying to recall the response, with a slight panicky feeling if the reader or celebrant's bit goes on a little. What was that response again? Oh, that was it (as the celebrant looks over his glasses and says the response in a low voice, disapprovingly).

As opposed to actually praying the psalm knowing at least the words of the refrain.

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Originally posted by Anselmina:
When I last posted, I thought I'd never do such a thing! But actually it's fine - the sky hasn't fallen in. And knowing the congo are easier with it and get into it better, is a small price to pay for a strange variation on liturgy!

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At least they desire to be active, and asked for help. If it were me, I'm sure it would become too programmed in my head, and I'd end up chanting:
"The Lord be with you. Response"
"Lift up your hearts. Response"


 

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Posted by aredstatemystic (# 11577) on :
 
Here is a complete Low Mass said from the American Missal at Nashotah House.
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 

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Originally posted by aredstatemystic:
Here is a complete Low Mass said from the American Missal at Nashotah House.

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Intense thanks to you for this link. This is the sort of video I would love to see more of, documenting various styles of ceremonial. Wish someone had done this for a 1965 interim rite RC Mass. Looking forward to studying this one. The celebrant is the rector of the parish to the north of my apartment in Chicago. Haven't visited there yet.

[ 27. October 2010, 16:19: Message edited by: Oblatus ]
 

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Posted by Patrick (# 305) on :
 
Thank you, Subdeacon Michael, for the links to the Bethanie community. The Paschal Service is a smooth blending of Eastern and Western features: the post Baptismal procession around the font, for the former, the Exultet for the latter. Is the Divine Liturgy Gallican?
Patrick
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 

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Originally posted by Patrick:
Thank you, Subdeacon Michael, for the links to the Bethanie community. The Paschal Service is a smooth blending of Eastern and Western features: the post Baptismal procession around the font, for the former, the Exultet for the latter. Is the Divine Liturgy Gallican?
Patrick

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That's right, Fr Deacon Patrick. They're a result of some of the groups departing due to the irregularities in l'ECOF over the years so they're essentially the inheritors of the byzantinised Gallican rite of the French church. Their music is a blend of Russian and western. The western plainsong is often harmonised and they're services are a blend of Gallican where the trradition could be reconstructed but supplemented with Byzantine in places. They're part of this communion now.
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 
In case I didn't reply to you directly about the other thing, (I've had quite a few e-mails and have lost track), you're definitely on the list.
 

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Posted by Forthview (# 12376) on :
 
Do you mind if I ask - do Orthodox call deacons 'Father' (Father deacon Patrick) ?
I've noticed that some anglicans give the title 'Father' to their deacons ,whereas (Roman)Catholics do not.
 

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Posted by leo (# 1458) on :
 
I think the only reason why some Anglicans call deacons 'Father' is because some anglo-catholics work hard to establish it as a clergy title and want to get people used to calling a young man 'Father' by the time he has become a priest.

However, this only makes sense in the case of transitional deacons, not permament deacons.
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 

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Originally posted by Forthview:
Do you mind if I ask - do Orthodox call deacons 'Father' (Father deacon Patrick) ?
I've noticed that some anglicans give the title 'Father' to their deacons ,whereas (Roman)Catholics do not.

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Of course we don't mind.

Yes, Orthodox deacons may be addressed as Father, as well as priests. It is really a personal mark of respect/affinity rather than an actual title, and it would be quite acceptable to refer to/address clergy as "Deacon David", "Priest Denys", "Archpriest Philip" without being thought disrespectful. I sometimes do that with clergy I don't know or am meeting for the first time but I'm really quite inconsistent. (I also do it with clergy I just can't bring myself to call "Father" - that way I remain respectful without being false).

I have a subdeacon friend in another diocese who is quite adamant that readers and subdeacons are also properly addressed as "Father" but I can only imagine it is either new Russian or a personal idiosyncrasy of his. Either way, I don't approve and suspect that my bishop wouldn't either.
 

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Originally posted by leo:
I think the only reason why some Anglicans call deacons 'Father' is because some anglo-catholics work hard to establish it as a clergy title and want to get people used to calling a young man 'Father' by the time he has become a priest.

However, this only makes sense in the case of transitional deacons, not permament deacons.

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Originally posted by Patrick:
(hope that does not sound too unfriendly)

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
I have a subdeacon friend in another diocese who is quite adamant that readers and subdeacons are also properly addressed as "Father"

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Originally posted by leo:

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
I have a subdeacon friend in another diocese who is quite adamant that readers and subdeacons are also properly addressed as "Father"

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I'll try that on the punters this coming Sunday.

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Seems to be a mild 1979-Rite-I-ization of an American Missal Mass

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Originally posted by Jon in the Nati:

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Seems to be a mild 1979-Rite-I-ization of an American Missal Mass

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I'm not familiar with the American Missal. What do you mean by "mild-Rite-I-ization" thereof?

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What was the business the celebrant did with the paten (it looked like rolling it about on its edge) during the Our Father before the Fraction? I've never seen that before.

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Originally posted by ChippedChalice:
Oblatus,

thanks for posting that video.

What was the business the celebrant did with the paten (it looked like rolling it about on its edge) during the Our Father before the Fraction? I've never seen that before.

(And, of course, the obligatory follow up question -- I wonder why that's not part of our manual acts at Ascension?)

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aredstatemystic gets the credit for posting the link first; I reposted it because I was hoping those who watched the video would comment and nobody was. But I'm happier now.

A previous assisting priest did the paten ceremonial that Fr. Heschle does in the video: paten slid out from under host and placed halfway under corporal, then the scoring of the host, sign of the Cross with the paten, sliding the paten back under the host; also the fermentum or small wedge of the host placed in the chalice and later fished out with the host as the celebrant receives the Sacred Body.

Can't say I know what it all means, but I think it's part of Tridentine ceremonial. It isn't done by other celebrants either because its meaning has gotten lost or (most likely) because the previous rector didn't incorporate it in the parish customary ca. 1979. The fraction in the 1979 may be one of the places where simplification was wanted: break the Host, keep silent for a moment, then the fraction anthem.

An older priest in a parish I belonged to in Michigan would pile all the hosts on the corporal and pull a corner of the corporal over them, I think during the words of institution, perhaps to ensure they were in the "blast radius." Then he'd scoop them back up with the paten. Mainly this was at a weekday Mass. His version of the traditional ceremonial.

[ 28. October 2010, 22:52: Message edited by: Oblatus ]
 

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Can't say I know what it all means, but I think it's part of Tridentine ceremonial.

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Originally posted by Jon in the Nati:
I won't suggest that it was not at one time, but I've seen many Tridentine masses, both English and Latin, both on video and in person, and I've never seen a celebrant do that bit. I wouldn't call myself an expert on Tridentine ceremony (we're high, but not that high), but I've just never seen it done, and it struck me as kind of odd.

Maybe it is one of those things that was changed in the 1962 revision of the Roman Rite, and fell out of practice then?

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
I finally found a small potential clue in an online article by the Rev. Tobias Haller, BSG. In connection with another liturgical custom, he refers to the paten-rolling:

This technical compliance with the rubric reminds one of the creasing of hosts with the edge of the paten which conscientious anglo-catholic clergy used to do in deference to the “lesser fraction” rubric, saving the complete breaking of the bread for the point at which they knew it to be proper!

The practice might be a remnant of that "technical compliance" with a rubric that's no longer there;

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
I assume that Haller is referring to the BCP rubric directing the priest to break the bread at the dominical words, which is of course nonsense.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
I finally found a small potential clue in an online article by the Rev. Tobias Haller, BSG. In connection with another liturgical custom, he refers to the paten-rolling:

This technical compliance with the rubric reminds one of the creasing of hosts with the edge of the paten which conscientious anglo-catholic clergy used to do in deference to the “lesser fraction” rubric, saving the complete breaking of the bread for the point at which they knew it to be proper!

The practice might be a remnant of that "technical compliance" with a rubric that's no longer there;

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The rubric is still there in 1662. I assume that Haller is referring to the BCP rubric directing the priest to break the bread at the dominical words, which is of course nonsense. He seems to be suggesting that Anglo-Catholic clergy following the BCP rite or some variation thereon might score the host with paten at this point in order to be seen to be complying with the rubrics, saving the actual fraction for its proper place later on.

Whether this is the origin of using the paten or whether it was simply a custom borrowed from elsewhere and conveniently used by AC priests at this point, it isn't possible to say from that quotation, but it gives us at least a partial answer.

Presumably, the custom was witnessed by some and thought to be the way that the fraction is to be done, so that now some clergy do it at the actual fraction. Just a guess.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
I have a subdeacon friend in another diocese who is quite adamant that readers and subdeacons are also properly addressed as "Father"

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I'll try that on the punters this coming Sunday.

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'Sub-Father', perhaps? 'Revd Uncle in God'?

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Originally posted by Forthview:
The 'rolling of the paten' discussed here was certainly common in the Tridentine Mass before the Second Vatican council.

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Originally posted by Forthview:
The 'rolling of the paten' discussed here was certainly common in the Tridentine Mass before the Second Vatican council.

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Originally posted by eppendorf:
Here is a very well done Great Thanksgiving from a Lutheran church in Massachusetts:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ILCRichard#p/u/6/6e4dztJmZn8

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Here is a very well done Great Thanksgiving from a Lutheran church in Massachusetts:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ILCRichard#p/u/6/6e4dztJmZn8

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I'd question the assessment that it is well done. With the exceptions of the end of the preface and later the epiklesis, it just seemed incredibly rushed, which, considering it's probably among the shortest eucharistic prayers in existence, would be unnecessary even for those who are of the school of thought that services have to fit within a certain set time. I wondered where he had to be.

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Come, for all is now ready. You may be seated.

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probably among the shortest eucharistic prayers in existence

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While that one was particularly brief, shortened eucharistic prayers are all the rage right now.

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That's one of our longer eucharistic prayers. You should hear the short ones!

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:

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Originally posted by Martin L:
That's one of our longer eucharistic prayers. You should hear the short ones!

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The prayer is almost as short as our epiklesis alone.

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Yeah, well, let's talk when the Orthodox introduce interminable announcements, a special stand-alone "anthem" by the choir, a children's sermon AND a long adult sermon.

(And if you can sell my Lutheran brethren into the idea of longer eucharistic prayers, then more power to you. It is a festering issue in American Lutheranism. Frankly, I'll take what I can get right now. Trust me, it's a step up. Now, if only we could get the presider in the YouTube clip above to rotate his hands a slightly during epiclesis.)

[ 10. November 2010, 01:27: Message edited by: Martin L ]
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
This one is not the usual fare for this thread, but having seen many discussions of this nature in Eccles, I thought some of you might enjoy:
Wedding Consultation with the Organist
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 
Here's a random act of culture involving pipe organ. Definitely worth a listen.
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
Oh, instant church! I loved how so many people in the crowd joined in -- it makes you wonder what percent of the population has learned the Hallelujah Chorus through some sort of program at school or church sometime in their lives. And everybody managed to get the silence before the final "hallelujah" at the end. Amazing.
 

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Posted by Triple Tiara (# 9556) on :
 
Not worship - at least not in the liturgical sense.


 

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Posted by TubaMirum (# 8282) on :
 
This isn't really a video, per se - just a series of stills - but it's a beautiful sung version of The Proclamation of Christmas (in Latin).

AND, as far as I've been able to tell, it's the "solemn tone" version - which I'd never heard before this year and didn't know existed, either.

Very pretty, both the song and the images, from 2009 it says.
 

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Posted by TubaMirum (# 8282) on :
 
(The video stills don't seem to be related to the chant, BTW - I believe the accompanying text says that this was chanted at Prime.

Not sure, either, where - someplace in Portugal, I think, or perhaps Brazil....?)
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 

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AND, as far as I've been able to tell, it's the "solemn tone" version - which I'd never heard before this year and didn't know existed, either.

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Originally posted by Quam Dilecta:
Some things never change. Back in the 1970's, the Anglican representative on a long-running ecumenical radio program remarked to me that his Roman Catholic colleagues, as they began to celebrate the Mass in English, wouldn't dream of learning from Anglicans' and Lutherans' centuries of experience with corporate worship in the vernacular.

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...and now they're whining for their collects to have more faithful translations--many of which were already done by the Episcopalians and being field tested in the late 60s and 70s. I guess I shouldn't gloat. The halting translations they had to put up with were punishment enough.
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 

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Originally posted by Via Media:
Here is a beautiful video of the Metropolitan Steven Anderson celebrating the IFB Divine Liturgy in Phoenix, Arizona. Simply enchanting.

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Originally posted by Via Media:
Here is a beautiful video of the Metropolitan Steven Anderson celebrating the IFB Divine Liturgy in Phoenix, Arizona. Simply enchanting.

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Via Media, the link you provided gives us a YouTube item titled "Baptist Preacher Heckled for Preaching Against Obama,' which doesn't exactly match the description in your post.

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Here is a beautiful video of the Metropolitan Steven Anderson celebrating the IFB Divine Liturgy in Phoenix, Arizona. Simply enchanting.

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Via Media, the link you provided gives us a YouTube item titled "Baptist Preacher Heckled for Preaching Against Obama,' which doesn't exactly match the description in your post.

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OK, my brain is all fogged up with a cold and I'm a little slow on the uptake. It's still the wrong video, though.
 

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Posted by Qoheleth. (# 9265) on :
 
Some of these are quite nice. Others less successful.
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 
Following a link trail from somebody's post on the bishop-cathedral thread, I stumbled across the video webcasts (both live and archived) from cathedral-like First United Methodist of Fort Worth. In my opinion, it gives a good look at typical Methodist liturgy and ceremonial in the US.
 

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Posted by aredstatemystic (# 11577) on :
 
Here's a fantastic set of videos of a reproduction of the Mass for St. Donatian, with a Mass setting of Jacob Obrecht. It is quite beautiful, though I cannot attest to the validity of their ceremonial. Do give it a watch, your soul with thank you.

I must confess that my favorite part is that their accents (especially the Priest) make it sound like the the Swedish Chef is singing the Mass. Does this make me a bad Christian?
 

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Posted by TubaMirum (# 8282) on :
 
Here's something that just came to my attention today - a rite I'd never seen (or even heard of) before. It's a video of the beginning of a Sarum rite called "The Reconciliation of Penitents." Thought it might be of interest to some here.

They're singing Psalm 34/(33):12 - Venite, venite, venite, filii; audite me : timorem Domini docebo vos. ("Come, children, hearken to me: I will teach you the fear of the Lord.").

It's a little strange to think of people being kicked out of the church for the entirety of Lent - but the rite itself is really pretty, I think. I like the bare feet....
 

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Posted by Alex Cockell (# 7487) on :
 
Found some cheesy "Worship Dance" out there -

Awesome? Umm - I beg to differ...
 

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Posted by Gill H (# 68) on :
 
Oh dear, that's pure 'Pass The Hamster'.

I've seen some very good worship dance, but that wasn't it.

She needs a choreographer, and she needs to be shown how to finish her movements properly.

I could also do without the move where she's trying to do a lift with an invisible partner - the Jesus Presslift, if you will.

And will somebody please help her open those darn windows? She keeps trying and they're obviously stuck.
 

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Posted by TubaMirum (# 8282) on :
 
This is the first video I've seen posted on the St. Thomas Fifth Avenue website. It's the Choir of Men & Boys singing Psalm 150 in Procession at the end of Choral Evensong on a Sunday (which they sing every Sunday, except in Lent as I recall).

(Here's the YouTube address, in case they move it from that page.)

[ 09. February 2011, 03:15: Message edited by: TubaMirum ]
 

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This is the first video I've seen posted on the St. Thomas Fifth Avenue website. It's the Choir of Men & Boys singing Psalm 150 in Procession at the end of Choral Evensong on a Sunday (which they sing every Sunday, except in Lent as I recall).

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Great video! Thanks.
 

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Posted by St.Silas the carter (# 12867) on :
 
And now, High Mass

Here's another of the entrance and solemn procession. You can't see a blessed thing, but it shows off the organ and the fact that there are some things that Catholics will sing.

The rest of the mass can also be found there.
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 
Images from Sunday's Pontifical Solemn High Mass and Confirmations at the Church of the Ascension, Chicago.
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
What a beautiful set of pictures, Oblatus! Your photographer is not only skilled in his art but he clearly knows the liturgy well enough to capture sublime moments, and he also knows the architecture of your church well enough to show it to its best advantage. (And I will say it again: best rood screen in Christendom. Or at least in Chicago. )

I haven't seen anyone kiss the bishop's ring in a long, long time. I like the juxtaposition of the bishop then kissing the cross. I have no doubt that ++Jeffrey loved being a part of this liturgy.
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 
Indeed, thank you. Who else in the area but Ascension would have a green cope? (BTW, what color is the rector's cope?)

In the two pontifical Masses I attended there, the bishop and the rector were seated on the opposite sides (bishop on north, rector on south). Was there a reason for the switch?
 

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Posted by TubaMirum (# 8282) on :
 
What a gorgeous church! I have to second Mamacita's assessment of that amazing rood screen, too.

Just beautiful. I posted a couple of images on my blog; I hope that's OK....
 

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Posted by Guardog (# 16066) on :
 
One of the most beautiful liturgies I've seen. I've always had a great love for eastern Christianity.
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 

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Originally posted by Martin L:
Indeed, thank you. Who else in the area but Ascension would have a green cope? (BTW, what color is the rector's cope?)

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Indeed, thank you. Who else in the area but Ascension would have a green cope? (BTW, what color is the rector's cope?)

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It's basically gold with a hunter-green or forest-green trim and hood.

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One of the most beautiful liturgies I've seen. I've always had a great love for eastern Christianity.

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Originally posted by Guardog:
One of the most beautiful liturgies I've seen. I've always had a great love for eastern Christianity.

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Do my eyes deceive me, or is that a female server to whom the celebrant hands the thurible at !:07? I know these are Greek Catholics and not Orthodox, but I thought women within the iconostasis were verbotten. But maybe I just made that up.

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Your eyes do not deceive you, and it is precisely discussion of that very observation that led the poster of the video (who is also the son of the now deceased priest depicted in the video) to disable comments. The criticism was exacerbated by the fact that, in addition to serving, the lady in question is also vested as a subdeacon.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
The Episcopal Divine Liturgy, coming soon to a church near you.

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Originally posted by Michael Astley:
The Episcopal Divine Liturgy, coming soon to a church near you.

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Originally posted by Guardog:
One of the most beautiful liturgies I've seen. I've always had a great love for eastern Christianity.

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Do my eyes deceive me, or is that a female server to whom the celebrant hands the thurible at !:07? I know these are Greek Catholics and not Orthodox, but I thought women within the iconostasis were verbotten. But maybe I just made that up.

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Your eyes do not deceive you, and it is precisely discussion of that very observation that led the poster of the video (who is also the son of the now deceased priest depicted in the video) to disable comments. The criticism was exacerbated by the fact that, in addition to serving, the lady in question is also vested as a subdeacon.

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I thought the Byzantine Rite doesn't have subdeacons. Is the Ukrainian Catholic Church different in that respect?

I have a UC friend who will be spitting nails when I send him a link to this liturgy.
 

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Posted by aredstatemystic (# 11577) on :
 
This conversation about the young lady -- who may or may not be a Subdeacon -- being handed the thurible makes me wonder about the availability of Divine Liturgy on the web.

For example, in the Episcopal Church we have St. Clem's and St. Tom's (Fifth Avenue) who broadcast their venerable Masses and Evensongs on a regular basis. There are several other Churches that do this.

Are there any Orthodox Churches who do something similar? I'm not talking clips with possibly-spurious Subdeacons, but full-length services archived for your spiritual edification.

Anyone know of any?
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 

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The Episcopal Divine Liturgy, coming soon to a church near you.

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OK, I think that is pretty cool. Is it an ad and, if so, what exactly is it for?

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Originally posted by Shadowhund:
I thought the Byzantine Rite doesn't have subdeacons. Is the Ukrainian Catholic Church different in that respect?

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Originally posted by aredstatemystic:
For example, in the Episcopal Church we have St. Clem's and St. Tom's (Fifth Avenue) who broadcast their venerable Masses and Evensongs on a regular basis. There are several other Churches that do this.

Are there any Orthodox Churches who do something similar? I'm not talking clips with possibly-spurious Subdeacons, but full-length services archived for your spiritual edification.

Anyone know of any?

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Yes. The ROCOR cathedral in Mayfield broadcasts its services live. There's also this, which I find more of a distraction and cause of frustration than anything else. Still, it satisfies the description of what was asked for.
 

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Posted by Shadowhund (# 9175) on :
 
Thanks for clarifying about the Byzantine Rite. For some reason I though that the subdiaconate was never a part of the Byzantine Rite in the first place, but I was clearly wrong.
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 

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Yes. The ROCOR cathedral in Mayfield broadcasts its services live. There's also this, which I find more of a distraction and cause of frustration than anything else. Still, it satisfies the description of what was asked for.

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And Michael Astley spake unto them, saying:
Yes. The ROCOR cathedral in Mayfield broadcasts its services live. There's also this, which I find more of a distraction and cause of frustration than anything else. Still, it satisfies the description of what was asked for.

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Thank you both for your recommendations, Michael and Martin.

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And Michael Astley spake unto them, saying:
Yes. The ROCOR cathedral in Mayfield broadcasts its services live. There's also this, which I find more of a distraction and cause of frustration than anything else. Still, it satisfies the description of what was asked for.

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Pray tell, why do you find it a distraction or frustration?

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I looked at a couple of the services on St. Clement's website, it appears they are of sung, as opposed to solemn masses, i.e., just the celebrant, is that the case on "regular" Sundays? Most of the other shrines field solemn masses every week, or is St. Clem's video not of the "main" service?

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Well that's different.

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Photos of my community's ordinations last month. There is meant to be video up there at some point, so think of this as a "coming soon to a screen near you" kind of thing.

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8:00am Easter Sunday High Mass at St. Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood

Facebook videos also available of Vigil Mass in Latin.

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Huh? The opening hymn on Easter Sunday was "Jerusalem the Golden?" That seems odd.

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8:00am Easter Sunday High Mass at St. Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood

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Huh? The opening hymn on Easter Sunday was "Jerusalem the Golden?" That seems odd.

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Huh? The opening hymn on Easter Sunday was "Jerusalem the Golden?" That seems odd.

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It has a reference to 'milk and honey' - these were given as part of first communion to the newly baptised at the Easter Vigil in times past.

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Wow, that still seems mighty obtuse to me, although I'm sure it works in context for those who attend. I'm just used to Easter Day bursting out with music and with texts that are a variety of ways to say, "Christ is risen."

And I realize I'm working from a few minutes of a fine YouTube video rather than experience of a whole service.

[ 24. May 2011, 18:16: Message edited by: Oblatus ]
 

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Posted by New Yorker (# 9898) on :
 
May it's not Easter Sunday but a Sunday in Easter?
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 

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Originally posted by New Yorker:
May it's not Easter Sunday but a Sunday in Easter?

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8:00am Easter Sunday High Mass at St. Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood

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Huh? The opening hymn on Easter Sunday was "Jerusalem the Golden?" That seems odd.

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I don't do the "Hollywood cross", but my impression is that it is common in Southern California TEC parishes, often with a kiss to the fingers after the tap on the chest.

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Photos of my community's ordinations last month. There is meant to be video up there at some point, so think of this as a "coming soon to a screen near you" kind of thing.

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Originally posted by LA Dave:
St. Silas -- I enjoyed the Diaconal ordination video very much.

By comparison, I attended the Diaconal ordination of 14 deacons in the LA Archiocese. It was held at the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Beige Concrete (sorry, editorial comment there) with mass setting by the immortal Marty Haugen(Mass of Celebration -- uuuggghhh). One of my fellow choir members describes the cathedral as like attending Mass in the world's largest vet office. How true, how true.

I liked yours more.

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We're soon to have a video of the final profession of two brothers at the same parish. Music: By all Thy Saints Still Striving (St.Theodolph),Missa de Angelis,Tu Es Petrus,(M. Haller)Ecce Quam Bonum (Montani)Salve Regina (Chant) O God Beyond All Praising (Thaxted, Richard Proulx's setting.)
 

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Posted by LA Dave (# 1397) on :
 
St. Silas:
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 

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Originally posted by Hart:
Photos of my community's ordinations last month. There is meant to be video up there at some point, so think of this as a "coming soon to a screen near you" kind of thing.

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The same link now has video on. If you watch carefully, you can spot the mistakes me and my brother candle-bearer make!

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Hart, that is one joyful procession! And the way the ordinands are beaming throughout! (Will have to view the rest later.)

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We do do joy quite well, I think! I went to the diocesan ordinations in Westminster Cathedral last week and everyone was very well done, but it just wasn't a 'family affair' like our ordinations are.
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 
Should Lutherans wear pink chasubles?
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
Martin L, I am wiping tears from my eyes.
 

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Posted by uffda (# 14310) on :
 
"My congregation does not think that way. I have "cat-o-chised" them."



Let's see those "Piskiepalians" top that!
 

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Posted by aig (# 429) on :
 
I have sent my Rector the link for the video;
Things Your Lutheran Pastor Totally Loves: Hearing Complaints from "Some People" (Episode 5)

Pure genius
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 

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Originally posted by aig:
I have sent my Rector the link for the video;
Things Your Lutheran Pastor Totally Loves: Hearing Complaints from "Some People" (Episode 5)

Pure genius

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Opening and closing hymns from the 90th birthday celebration of Bishop Montgomery.

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Originally posted by Martin L:
Opening and closing hymns from the 90th birthday celebration of Bishop Montgomery.

[n.b. Bishop Montgomery is a former bishop of Chicago, and you will notice his Anglo-Catholic tendencies, and those of the Church of the Atonement, in which the Mass was celebrated. I can't make out the other bishop's identity, but it looks like a blurry Frank Griswold, the next bishop of Chicago after Montgomery and later the Presiding Bishop. Crowd notwithstanding, this is a fairly decent window into the Chicago Rite II scene.]

Martin's commentary: I love Bishop Montgomery's 10-gallon mitres. Always a joy to see. I wish I had been there live.

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I'm afraid "Hail, Holy Queen" just makes me think of that Whoopi Goldberg film, though.

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Nice job on "Praise to the Lord, the Almighty," especially the goosebump-inducing descant on the final verse. I'm afraid "Hail, Holy Queen" just makes me think of that Whoopi Goldberg film, though.

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I guess I'm glad I didn't see that film, then! Hate to have a good hymn ruined.
 

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Posted by Think² (# 1984) on :
 
I rather like the version they did in the film.
 

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Posted by Nick Tamen (# 15164) on :
 

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I rather like the version they did in the film.

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I love it, actually -- that and Joyful, Joyful from Sister Act 2.
 

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Posted by Magic Wand (# 4227) on :
 
I haven't seen anyone mention the S. Clement's, Philadelphia, videos on Vimeo here:

http://www.vimeo.com/saintclements

They're taken from a fixed camera, and so don't zoom or show things happening away from the altar, but the video and sound quality isn't bad.

There's one up for the Assumption.
 

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Posted by seasick (# 48) on :
 
Sunday worship from the British Methodist Conference, including the reception of new presbyters and deacons into full connexion. Attentive viewers may notice some shipmates...
 

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Posted by aredstatemystic (# 11577) on :
 
Just discovered about a charming forty-minute show on the churches of East Anglia by Sir John Betjeman. "Passion for Churches" seemed to me in one part, a show on church architecture and in another, a meditation on what it means to be in the C of E.

I enjoyed it, especially since Norwich/East Anglia is next on list of places to travel to at some point in my life

Part I
Part II
Part III

(Part of the second video are filmed in the Shrine of Our Lady at Walsingham.)

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Posted by St.Silas the carter (# 12867) on :
 
A slideshow Of photos from the final profession of two brothers, Brs. James and Scott. The video of the full mass will take a while before it's uploaded, the sound and video are still out of synch. You can see it was a simple, modern liturgy.

[ 31. August 2011, 19:38: Message edited by: St.Silas the carter ]
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 
Here are some photographs from the feast of the Dormition/Assumption of the Mother of God last Sunday. This was at the Russian Orthodox cathedral of the Dormition in London, which was celebrating its patronal feast, hence the blessing of the waters before the Liturgy and the Cross-Procession afterwards. There were at least three shipmates in attendance.

We didn't bless herbs: we don't want to be seen to be too high church, now.
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 
Actually, while we're at it, here is a slideshow of photographs from my parish on the Saturday before our own patronal feast in July.
 

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Posted by Michael Astley (# 5638) on :
 
The blessing of the police.
 

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Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
Videos photos and homilies from the profession of final vows of one of my brothers in community, the (now) Rev. Mr. Matt Kuczora, CSC.

Some of the photos give a wonderful view of the solar panel for my brain (I'm carrying a candle). As a side note, you can tell how much of a football school we're at: our practice of forming a semi circle outside the basilica to welcome the newly finally professed (or newly ordained in the Spring) is referred to as the "victory formation."
 

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Posted by Shadowhund (# 9175) on :
 
A selection from mass at Franco's burial place,the Basilica Valle de los Caidos.

The boy choirsters and the ars celebrandi of the clergy are pretty good, but the key point of interest starts shortly after the 9:45 mark. I wonder how many other churches do this?
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 

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The boy choirsters and the ars celebrandi of the clergy are pretty good, but the key point of interest starts shortly after the 9:45 mark. I wonder how many other churches do this?

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Actually, while we're at it, here is a slideshow of photographs from my parish on the Saturday before our own patronal feast in July.

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The boy choirsters and the ars celebrandi of the clergy are pretty good, but the key point of interest starts shortly after the 9:45 mark. I wonder how many other churches do this?

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We dim the lights for the sermon. I wonder what that says about us...

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We dim the lights for the sermon. I wonder what that says about us...

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Like on a long-haul flight when they want you to go to sleep...?
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 

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We dim the lights for the sermon. I wonder what that says about us...

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Like on a long-haul flight when they want you to go to sleep...?

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Actually, while we're at it, here is a slideshow of photographs from my parish on the Saturday before our own patronal feast in July.

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Thank you, Michael Astley, for those photographs. I always find the greeting and the vesting of the bishop very moving. We greet him as he enters into his church. We vest him, confirming him as our bishop.

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Originally posted by Right-Believing Queen:
This is simply glorious. I think it's wonderful that S. Clement's, one of the vanishingly few Anglican parishes that can be relied upon to have flawless liturgy, provides such ample resources for the edification of those far beyond the greater Philadelphia area.

I do wish, though, that they would make some high quality videos of a High Mass using moving cameras. I know the Latin Mass Society does this, and I watched a video of Tridentine High Mass from Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome at a rather splendid dinner party a few months ago.

Even with the limitations of a static camera, though, these surely are recordings to spread Christmas cheer.

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Posted by Lolly O'Hara (# 16777) on :
 
Good videos of sermons from Jesmond Parish Church in Newcastle which is a bible believing church in the church of england. They havent allowed liberalism to take over which is great!

http://www.clayton.tv/?firstvisit=1
 

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Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on :
 
My dungeon has flamed with light! My chains have fallen off! My heart feels free! All these years I went to a Mr Men books believing church, but now I see the error of my ways and I must find a Bible believing church. Thanks Lollipop
 

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Posted by Lolly O'Hara (# 16777) on :
 
youre welcome!
 

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Originally posted by Right-Believing Queen:
This is simply glorious. I think it's wonderful that S. Clement's, one of the vanishingly few Anglican parishes that can be relied upon to have flawless liturgy, provides such ample resources for the edification of those far beyond the greater Philadelphia area.

I do wish, though, that they would make some high quality videos of a High Mass using moving cameras. I know the Latin Mass Society does this, and I watched a video of Tridentine High Mass from Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome at a rather splendid dinner party a few months ago.

Even with the limitations of a static camera, though, these surely are recordings to spread Christmas cheer.

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Originally posted by Right-Believing Queen:
This is simply glorious. I think it's wonderful that S. Clement's, one of the vanishingly few Anglican parishes that can be relied upon to have flawless liturgy, provides such ample resources for the edification of those far beyond the greater Philadelphia area.

I do wish, though, that they would make some high quality videos of a High Mass using moving cameras. I know the Latin Mass Society does this, and I watched a video of Tridentine High Mass from Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome at a rather splendid dinner party a few months ago.

Even with the limitations of a static camera, though, these surely are recordings to spread Christmas cheer.

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A word to the wise: Anyone interested in the liturgy at S. Clement's in all of its full Tridentine splendor should take what remains of it in while they can. The slippery slope is upon us...

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Originally posted by Right-Believing Queen:
This is simply glorious. I think it's wonderful that S. Clement's, one of the vanishingly few Anglican parishes that can be relied upon to have flawless liturgy, provides such ample resources for the edification of those far beyond the greater Philadelphia area.

I do wish, though, that they would make some high quality videos of a High Mass using moving cameras. I know the Latin Mass Society does this, and I watched a video of Tridentine High Mass from Santa Maria Maggiore in Rome at a rather splendid dinner party a few months ago.

Even with the limitations of a static camera, though, these surely are recordings to spread Christmas cheer.

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A word to the wise: Anyone interested in the liturgy at S. Clement's in all of its full Tridentine splendor should take what remains of it in while they can. The slippery slope is upon us...

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What ill-tidings do you bring? I thought S. Clement's had just found the resources for a curate, which was taken by all to be a very good sign.

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I've been watching the Christmas Midnight Mass video, and am wondering about something I have observed in the few AC parishes I've visited: What is the significance of the ten candles on the altar (six on the retable, four below)? I understand the symbolism of two candles, but ten?

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Originally posted by WearyPilgrim:
I've been watching the Christmas Midnight Mass video, and am wondering about something I have observed in the few AC parishes I've visited: What is the significance of the ten candles on the altar (six on the retable, four below)? I understand the symbolism of two candles, but ten?

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Hmmm, Pennsylvania is going up in my world - amazing forests and a high church. Seems like a great place to live.

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Six is customary, although I don't think there is any particular symbolism behind it (although if you add a tabernacle light, it becomes seven - the number of Zechariah's lamps).

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Originally posted by Right-Believing Queen:
A seventh candle is, of course, also added during a pontifical high mass.

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Originally posted by Right-Believing Queen:

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Originally posted by WearyPilgrim:
I've been watching the Christmas Midnight Mass video, and am wondering about something I have observed in the few AC parishes I've visited: What is the significance of the ten candles on the altar (six on the retable, four below)? I understand the symbolism of two candles, but ten?

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For benediction of the MBS, at least twelve candles must be lit, although this is an absolute minimum and I find that anything less than twenty looks niggardly. The last time I laid out an altar for benediction, it featured somewhere in excess of forty candles.

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I can't imagine that many candles.
My parish (RC) Has ten on the altar as well. Usually, six are lit for Sundays and ordinary solemnities, four for feasts and two or four for weekdays. We do have two large standing candelabras that have about 20 candles each and two benediction sets, both of which are lit along with the altar candles about five times a year maximum.
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 
Okay, what I'm about to post is not video, but I'm just going to post it here anyway...

Audio from St. John's Church, Savannah

One will find a Good Old Fashioned Sung Morning Prayer at that link.

Thank you to the MWer who gave the review (#2292 here), and in this Christmas season I would like to thank the unsung editors whose loving labor makes the Mystery Worship page not only possible, but also an unparalleled high-quality endeavor. Thanks also belong to those who submit reports!
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
Hear, hear!
 

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Posted by CorgiGreta (# 443) on :
 
The complete Midnight Mass of the Most Holy Nativity, 2011, from St. Thomas the Apostle Episcopal Church, Hollywood.
 

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Posted by FCB (# 1495) on :
 
Here is Mass from St. Peter's, Rome, on the feast of Mary, Mother of God (Jan. 1). Some totally random points of note:

• Rome-style vestments
• The rather. . . homey. . . statue of the Virgin and child
• Kids dressed as the three magi, just like in my parish

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Here is Mass from St. Peter's, Rome, on the feast of Mary, Mother of God (Jan. 1). Some totally random points of note:

• Rome-style vestments
• The rather. . . homey. . . statue of the Virgin and child
• Kids dressed as the three magi, just like in my parish

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It's very beautiful;, and I never realised how nice it is to watch the mass without commentary.

That said, I hope some day in the next 50 years, something will be done about the Sistine Screamers. I'm sure with a less -um, pictchy choir, that "Et Incarnatus est" would have been spectacular.
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 
I love to visit St Thomas', Huron Street, whenever I'm in Toronto (typically for Sunday Evensong and Benedic ... oops ... I mean Devotions). And I loved watching Meeting Place on CBC Windsor from where I grew up in the Detroit suburbs. So I'm very thrilled to find a whole Meeting Place episode from St Thomas', and it's a Solemn Ma ... er, Eucharist ... for Candlemas.
 

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Posted by St.Silas the carter (# 12867) on :
 

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
I love to visit St Thomas', Huron Street, whenever I'm in Toronto (typically for Sunday Evensong and Benedic ... oops ... I mean Devotions). And I loved watching Meeting Place on CBC Windsor from where I grew up in the Detroit suburbs. So I'm very thrilled to find a whole Meeting Place episode from St Thomas', and it's a Solemn Ma ... er, Eucharist ... for Candlemas.

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Interesting, the introduction and blessing of the candles is nearly word for word the same as the old translation of the novus ordo prayer.
 

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Posted by St.Silas the carter (# 12867) on :
 
I've started organising the various photos of liturgies from my home parish into sets to make them easier to go through. Palm Sunday and Good Friday from last years are Here .
 

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Posted by FCB (# 1495) on :
 
Well, the video is only of the album cover, but this Mass Emmanuel by Sr. Irene O'Connor (c. 1976) is so f--king bizarre that I had to share it. Words fail me. . . really. . . I mean, really.
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 


Thank you, FCB! This is awesome!

...and you just know that she is barefoot.
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
I'm a few minutes behind MartinL because I couldn't decide on the or smiley. It's the accompaniment that's really bizarre. It sounded like the background music for a really cheezy late-sixties sci-fi film (did you notice that one of the comments on youtube was "this music belongs in a video game"?) The thing is, the voices were pretty good. It was kind of like a Taizé or Iona track, gone terribly, terribly wrong.

[ 30. January 2012, 00:00: Message edited by: Mamacita ]
 

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Posted by FCB (# 1495) on :
 
My only regret is that with the new translation we can no longer use this in the liturgy.
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
A shame, really, not to have an update. The good sister has probably retired and hung up her drum machine.
 

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Posted by Martin L (# 11804) on :
 
I was trying to decide if it was more Petula Clark Mass, Woodstock Mass, or Sesame Street Mass. In the back of my mind, I was picturing a numbered pinball bouncing around, so I finally settled on the latter.

Thankfully for Mamacita and myself, this translation is still quite acceptable.
 

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Posted by seasick (# 48) on :
 
That is a truly, erm, distinctive worship experience...
 

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Posted by Pancho (# 13533) on :
 

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Originally posted by FCB:
Well, the video is only of the album cover, but this Mass Emmanuel by Sr. Irene O'Connor (c. 1976) is so f--king bizarre that I had to share it. Words fail me. . . really. . . I mean, really.

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Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
This video is still up.

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Originally posted by Martin L:

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Originally posted by St.Silas the carter:
This video is still up.

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I remember the installation of Justin Rigali like it was yesterday. Do they always use the altar under the baldacchino? I know they did at Rigali's, but it looks like the sort of church setup wherein they would normally use an altar closer to the nave seating.

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Originally posted by Pancho:

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Originally posted by FCB:
Well, the video is only of the album cover, but this Mass Emmanuel by Sr. Irene O'Connor (c. 1976) is so f--king bizarre that I had to share it. Words fail me. . . really. . . I mean, really.

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I like it, believe it or not. It's like early Electronica and both the rhythm and melody are Spanish-sounding. Strip away the electronic bits and it would actually make for a decent-sounding congregational Mass.

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Originally posted by Erleuchte on another thread:
[aside] Dear mods, no matter what I post I can never seem to work out the proper forum to use. Apologies if I got it wrong again [/aside]

I thought the Eccles community would be the one most interested in seeing a new, short documentary (just 8 mins) about Dom Anselm Shobrook OSB, iconographer at Alton Abbey. Dom Anselm runs a number of icon-writing courses each year and the documentary is about what and how he teaches his students. Find the documentary here.

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Posted by Erleuchte (# 16533) on :
 
Thanks for moving the vid to the best place Mamacita. E
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
My pleasure.
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
Christ Church New Haven, an Anglo-Catholic parish in Connecticut, is doing a series of short videos about the liturgies of Holy Week. I'll post them as they appear this week.

Introduction to Holy Week
Palm Sunday
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
And here is their video on the Maundy Thursday liturgy. These are only 3 minutes long and the choir is lovely to listen to. (All voices from Yale, IIUI.)
 

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Posted by aig (# 429) on :
 
I may be going to Yale on an exchange thing for the Fall semester; Christ Church looks worth a visit or two!
 

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Posted by Galilit (# 16470) on :
 
The Community of S.Mary the Virgin, Wantage are live-streaming audio their Tenebrae at 8 pm UK time and with links to "the words" and all
 

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Posted by Greek Catholic (# 12930) on :
 
I have posted 6 videos of live services at Christ Church, New Haven, CT. These are excerpts from either Masses or Evensongs. Below is a link for one of the videos, from February 19, 2012, the Last Sunday of Epiphany. You can click on my name (Jack6964) at the top of the Youtube page to see a list of the rest of the videos. While these are not professional or highly polished, they give a very good sense of the high quality and care taken in worship at this extra-ordinary parish. Thanks for viewing!

Christ Church New Haven CT Feb 19 2012 Mass
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
Greek Catholic, as it has been a while since you registered with Ship of Fools, let me suggest you take another look at the 10 Commandments (link at top of page). Commandment 9 says

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Don't use these boards to advertise your site.

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The purpose of this thread is to provide links to specific videos or images of worship, but not to promote members' youtube channels.

Mamacita, Eccles Host
 

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Posted by Mr. Rob (# 5823) on :
 
The 2012 Easter Vigil
video broadcasts live and recorded for later on-demand viewing can be found at:

The Vatican/St. Peter's Basilica
21:00 Rome time Vatican Easter Vigil

Washington Cathedral
8:00PM, USA Eastern Daylight Time
Washington Cathedral

National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception
8:00PM, USA Eastern Daylight Time
Broadcast by EWTN

HAPPY EASTER!
Χριστός Ανέστη!
Христос воскресе!
ALLELUIA!


 

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Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
Easter Saturday means it's Ordination Day again in my community. For the first time, we're webcasting the ordination live here. It's at 2pm (EST). I think we're also webcasting Matt's first mass which is the next day at 11:45am (EST) which I'll be serving.
 

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Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
And now the Photos are up. Enjoy!

PS. If you haven't got time to watch the whole video (2hr!), here are some highlights.

00:00 Procession. Over a 100 CSC priests made it in for the ordination.
20:40 Two parishioner's from Dcn. Matt's parish present and recommend him with inspiring fervor!
48:50 Litany of the Saints is sung, as Dcn. Matt lies prostrate
55:30 Laying on of hands, first by the bishop, then by Matt's brother priests.
1:07:15 Prayer of ordination
1:10:50 The new priest vests
1:21:00 Eucharist prayer begins. Led by the bishop, it's the first time Fr. Matt will pray this as a priest.
1:33:55 Sign of Peace
1:37:50 Communion
1:51:15 Thank yous, and a joke...
1:55:12 Fr. Matt blesses the bishop
 

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Posted by Triple Tiara (# 9556) on :
 
Proper Anglicanism, none of this aping-Roman namby-pamby stuff

And also.

That chimere with a train and train-bearers is a thing to behold. I wonder when last such a garment was given an airing.
 

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Posted by Mr. Rob (# 5823) on :
 

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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
Proper Anglicanism, none of this aping-Roman namby-pamby stuff

And also.

That chimere with a train and train-bearers is a thing to behold. I wonder when last such a garment was given an airing.

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I'm not saying that S. Clement's has 'gone low' in the same way that, say, Margaret Street has,

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Are you on the same planet as the rest of us, (S)C?
 

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Posted by (S)pike couchant (# 17199) on :
 

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Originally posted by Angloid:
Originally posted by (S)pike Couchant:

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I'm not saying that S. Clement's has 'gone low' in the same way that, say, Margaret Street has,

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Are you on the same planet as the rest of us, (S)C?

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Originally posted by (S)pike couchant:
It certainly seems to have been a glorious occasion: that choir singing Elgar and Mozart accompanied by an orchestra!

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Bruckner's Ecce Sacerdos is better than Elgar's. There. I said it.

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...which suggests that rumours of Clementine misogyny are greatly exaggerated (note that I am not addressing the rights or wrongs of the ordination of women, merely pointing out that this parish's position on that issue seems to be different from how it's been presented in precious threads and MW reports).

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Originally posted by Lietuvos Sv. Kazimieras:
Just because the shape of the liturgy and the ceremonial at ASMS are reasonably consistent with mainstream Anglicanism, albeit with plenty of Anglo-Catholic devotion, hardly makes it some sort of modernist MOTR-low confection.

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Originally posted by (S)pike couchant:

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Originally posted by Lietuvos Sv. Kazimieras:
Just because the shape of the liturgy and the ceremonial at ASMS are reasonably consistent with mainstream Anglicanism, albeit with plenty of Anglo-Catholic devotion, hardly makes it some sort of modernist MOTR-low confection.

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Not MOTR-low, no, but it's not particularly high as Anglo-Catholic parishes go.

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Originally posted by Hart:
Profession of perpetual vows by three of my brothers, for your viewing pleasure!

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Originally posted by WearyPilgrim:
Question from a U.S. non-Anglican: I recently attended an outdoor funeral at which the officiant was a retired Episcopal priest whom I found (after some online checking) to be of the Anglo-Catholic variety. He was wearing a very long, simple, flowing surplice with a particularly high neckline, together with a cassock and a wide tippet with no embellishments. The surplice draped beautifully and looked very elegant. Is there a name for this particular type of surplice?

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Originally posted by WearyPilgrim:
Question from a U.S. non-Anglican: I recently attended an outdoor funeral at which the officiant was a retired Episcopal priest whom I found (after some online checking) to be of the Anglo-Catholic variety. He was wearing a very long, simple, flowing surplice with a particularly high neckline, together with a cassock and a wide tippet with no embellishments. The surplice draped beautifully and looked very elegant. Is there a name for this particular type of surplice?

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Originally posted by Mr. Rob:
I certainly haven't seen or heard of any Anglican prelate of such rank sporting a chimere with a train since the demise of Hugh Gough. Like clerical gaiters, the chimere with train seems to have disappeared along with interest in its use.

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Originally posted by Angloid:
Is it a pond difference? ISTM that only English Anglo-catholics make so much of the differing styles of surplices. American a-cs (and English RCs) seem quite happy to wear 'Anglican' surplices.

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Originally posted by Mr. Rob:

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Originally posted by Angloid:
Is it a pond difference? ISTM that only English Anglo-catholics make so much of the differing styles of surplices. American a-cs (and English RCs) seem quite happy to wear 'Anglican' surplices.

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Yes, it surely is a pond difference. In general, you won't find American Anglo-Catholic Episcopalians wearing lace or any kind of antique cut, Roman surplices, albs, vestments or other tat.
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However, that being said, allow me to eat my words if you take a look at this bizarre event held beginning at 10AM, last Saturday, October 6, at Washington National Cathedral. You will see more odd tat on parade than the rather more narrow assessment in my previous post.

The 30ish something Annual National Acolyte Festival

Printed service leaflet

The presider was Bishop James B. Magness, bishop suffragan for the armed services and federal ministries of The Episcopal Church.

* Cast of thousands!
* Smoke!
* Bendy poles and banners galore!
* All manner of vesture!

* The music: Well quite glorious!
* The Cathedral Singers group directed by lay
Canon Michael McCarthy
* Spectacular organ music by Benjamin Straley, assistant cathedral organist

A long service, but fun to watch and listen to. Bishop Magness preached and said, "Being an acolyte is the best kind of Christian education a young person could have."

Magness himself was trianed as an acolyte in western North Carolina, and he credits that training for saving his faith and his sanity after his war time service in Viet Nam.

Enjoy!
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[ 09. October 2012, 03:00: Message edited by: Mr. Rob ]
 

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Posted by Mr. Rob (# 5823) on :
 
A heads up to shipmates for Part I of the installation of Gary Hall, new dean of Washington Cathedral, Saturday night, October 27 at 7:00PM (1900) USA Eastern Daylight Time.

Part I is the actual installation with the renewal of corporate baptismal vows according to the 1979 American prayer book. Reception following.

Part II on Sunday morning is the installation Eucharist.

Installation order of service, Sat night, Part I (pdf)

Installation live webcast, Sat night, Part I

Tomorrow, Sunday, October 28, at 11:15AM, USA Eastern Daylight Time, Part II, live webcast of the new dean's Installation Festal Eucharist.

Installation Festal Eucharist live webcast, Part II, Sun morning
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Posted by Percy B (# 17238) on :
 
And from Brazil comes

This video of the procession of the Scriptures

I have never seen the like before

It certainly shows the breadth of the liturgical tradition of the Roman Catholic Church!
 

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Posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe (# 5521) on :
 
Good Lord! Was the ringmaster -- oops, I mean narrator -- speaking Portuguese with a Brogue, or is that what it actually sounds like?
 

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Posted by Mr. Rob (# 5823) on :
 
BTW, Following Part I of the Installation on Sat night, the Washington Ringing Society will attempt to ring a quarter peal on the 10 bell ring of the Gloria in excelsis central tower.

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Originally posted by Mr. Rob:

A heads up to shipmates for Part I of the installation of Gary Hall, new dean of Washington Cathedral, Saturday night, October 27 at 7:00PM (1900) USA Eastern Daylight Time.

Part I is the actual installation with the renewal of corporate baptismal vows according to the 1979 American prayer book. Reception following.

Part II on Sunday morning is the installation Eucharist.

Installation order of service, Sat night, Part I (pdf)

Installation live webcast, Sat night, Part I

Tomorrow, Sunday, October 28, at 11:15AM, USA Eastern Daylight Time, Part II, live webcast of the new dean's Installation Festal Eucharist.

Installation Festal Eucharist live webcast, Part II, Sun morning
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Originally posted by Percy B:
And from Brazil comes

This video of the procession of the Scriptures

I have never seen the like before

It certainly shows the breadth of the liturgical tradition of the Roman Catholic Church!

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And looking on you tube it seems just one of several of a circus style RC liturgy


[ 01. November 2012, 22:47: Message edited by: Percy B ]
 

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Posted by Olaf (# 11804) on :
 

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
A complete Low Mass (USA BCP Rite I) recorded today, All Saints' Day.

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Originally posted by Percy B:

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Originally posted by Percy B:
And from Brazil comes

This video of the procession of the Scriptures

I have never seen the like before

It certainly shows the breadth of the liturgical tradition of the Roman Catholic Church!

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And looking on you tube it seems just one of several of a circus style RC liturgy

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And people here complain about Episcopalian bendy poles! HAH!

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Posted by Lietuvos Sv. Kazimieras (# 11274) on :
 

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
A complete Low Mass (USA BCP Rite I) recorded today, All Saints' Day.

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Originally posted by Percy B:
And from Brazil comes

This video of the procession of the Scriptures

I have never seen the like before

It certainly shows the breadth of the liturgical tradition of the Roman Catholic Church!

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Originally posted by Percy B:
And from Brazil comes

This video of the procession of the Scriptures

I have never seen the like before

It certainly shows the breadth of the liturgical tradition of the Roman Catholic Church!

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Oh my.

How about an Antidote ?
 

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Posted by Mr. Rob (# 5823) on :
 

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Originally posted by Edgeman:

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Originally posted by Percy B:
And from Brazil comes

This video of the procession of the Scriptures

I have never seen the like before

It certainly shows the breadth of the liturgical tradition of the Roman Catholic Church!

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Oh my.

How about an Antidote ?

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THAT'S an antidote?
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Posted by Edgeman (# 12867) on :
 

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Originally posted by Mr. Rob:

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Originally posted by Edgeman:

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Originally posted by Percy B:
And from Brazil comes

This video of the procession of the Scriptures

I have never seen the like before

It certainly shows the breadth of the liturgical tradition of the Roman Catholic Church!

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Oh my.

How about an Antidote ?

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THAT'S an antidote?
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I don't see what's wrong with it.

 

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Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
There's barely anyone there, and those that do don't look particularly happy about it. Does that make it bad? No, it's worship, and that's good. But the former video leads me to greater hopefulness.
 

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Posted by Comper's Child (# 10580) on :
 

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Originally posted by Hart:
There's barely anyone there, and those that do don't look particularly happy about it. Does that make it bad? No, it's worship, and that's good. But the former video leads me to greater hopefulness.

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Originally posted by Hart:
There's barely anyone there, and those that do don't look particularly happy about it.

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Originally posted by ldjjd:
By the way, the entire 11:15 Eucharist at All Saints, Pasadena, is webcast live at 11:15 PST. It is not available later on demand, so anyone wishing to view it will have to adjust for time zones.

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Originally posted by Triple Tiara:
A bad omen?

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Originally posted by Augustine the Aleut:
This may be one of the few justifiable times when one can blame the staff.

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Originally posted by Lietuvos Sv. Kazimieras:
Oblatus, I've seen the video, as it's posted to facebook. However, I failed to find it on the parish website. I guess it's available via the fb link on the website. Oddly, the website videos tab seems to lead to something else (not videos). Perhaps you could direct Shippies on locating the video once they click on your link to the website.

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
HD video from S. Clement's, Philadelphia of today's
Requiem Mass for the victims of the Sandy Hook School shooting.

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• FSSP Video on Traditional Latin Mass (Part 1/3),
• FSSP Video on Traditional Latin Mass (Part 2/3),
• FSSP Video on Traditional Latin Mass (Part 3/3),
• Principles of Movement and Gesture in the Liturgy, and
• Variations when celebrating the Traditional Latin Mass.

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Originally posted by Pancho:
I got one of those cyber-squatting link page thingies after clicking the link above. I think this might the page link Olaf meant to share: www.saintpatrickscathedral.org/live

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[face-palm]. My bad! Sorry folks. Thank you, Pancho.
 

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Posted by ldjjd (# 17390) on :
 
A bit late, but here's Midnight Mass from St. Thomas the Apostle, Episcopal, Hollywood.
 

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Posted by Traveller (# 1943) on :
 
Just been pointed to this video of the service at Melton Mowbray on Christmas morning.

How this counts as worship, I cannot fathom.
 

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Posted by fletcher christian (# 13919) on :
 
What are they doing, and why?
 

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Posted by Traveller (# 1943) on :
 

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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
What are they doing, and why?

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Originally posted by fletcher christian:
What are they doing, and why?

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Indulging in "the frivolous excesses of the modern church"* - see everyone this is the slippery slope of what happens when you ordain women and gay people! **

* Vicar of Dibley - I hope you have all watched it. Not being British is not an excuse.

** - indicating I'm joking before someone calls me to hell...
 

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Posted by Jengie Jon (# 273) on :
 
After service snowball fight with woollen pompoms see local rag.

The mess therefore would have been very limited indeed.

Jengie
 

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Posted by John Holding (# 158) on :
 
And, judging by the two videos, no one seemed to be offended. I noticed couple of older, properly dressed (white shirt, tie and suit) men happily aiming the snow machine. No one sitting out.

WHether it was a good idea or not, those who were there didn't mind.

John
 

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Posted by Olaf (# 11804) on :
 
Snow-ly rollers?
 

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Posted by Ascension-ite (# 1985) on :
 
Ran across the following while surfing today, a collection of photo-essays of the medieval churches of Norwich during services at each. Really fascinating from this side of the pond. There seem to be a lot of A-C places, always a good thing! Fascinated by St Helen's with the altar off to the side. Still trying to figure out which A-C shack is my cup of tea... Norwich Churches
 

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Posted by Jon in the Nati (# 15849) on :
 
That is a nice assortment of churches. And a fascinating setup with the altar off to the side like that; I'm afraid I don't quite know what to make of it.

Seems to me that St. Giles and St. John are the most self-conciously A-C of the bunch, what the Roman vestments, birettas, and the three sacred ministers at St. John. Insofar as you can tell such things from the pictures, that is.
 

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Posted by Ascension-ite (# 1985) on :
 
St George Tombland looks very spikey as well, and with female clergy and ad-orientum celebration. Lots of A-C choices, wish I lived in Norwich. I am equally fascinated by the set-up at St Giles, what with that severe 18thC looking preaching desk front and center and that out of place baroque altar with sanctuary lamp and lovely vaulting off to the side, and what are those strange banners in the nave with the Romanoff looking eagles, are they black? How odd! Love to hear from someone familiar with Norwich.
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
A most interesting set of snapshots. Two things stand out - the sheer beauty of the churches themselves, so obviously well-loved and well-kept, and the smallness and advanced age of at least some of the congregations.....! (Even St. Andrew's, which looks pretty evangelical, is not exactly full to overflowing.....).

Yes, I know - it is in truth the worship that counts, not the number of bums on seats, but one hopes and prays that these churches - which clearly mean a great deal to those associated with them - will be able to continue in existence as viable worshipping communities of faith.

Ian J.
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 

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Originally posted by Ascension-ite:
St George Tombland looks very spikey as well, and with female clergy and ad-orientum celebration. Lots of A-C choices, wish I lived in Norwich. I am equally fascinated by the set-up at St Giles, what with that severe 18thC looking preaching desk front and center and that out of place baroque altar with sanctuary lamp and lovely vaulting off to the side, and what are those strange banners in the nave with the Romanoff looking eagles, are they black? How odd! Love to hear from someone familiar with Norwich.

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Originally posted by Zach82
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Found this neato-bonito video of the vesting prayers for priests, deacons, and lay servers!

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OMG!

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Posted by Zach82 (# 3208) on :
 
Thank you for that stunningly insightful contribution, Rob.
 

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Posted by seasick (# 48) on :
 
<kick>
 

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Posted by Olaf (# 11804) on :
 
Some of the Ordinariate sites are mentioning that the EWTN (Catholic TV Channel) filmed the Anglican rite last Sunday, and that it is scheduled to be broadcast on Wednesday. I'm not finding any evidence of it on the EWTN website or on their broadcast schedule, so we will just have to see how this all plays out.

Here is one of those sites .

[ 07. October 2013, 21:39: Message edited by: Olaf ]
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 
Here's a good look at a contemporary Benedictine liturgy. It's from Transfiguration Day (Aug. 6), and it's Solemn Vespers and First Professions at Saint Meinrad Archabbey in southern Indiana.
 

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Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
Thanks for sharing that, Oblatus. I've taken two retreats with the monks at St. Meinrad's and always enjoy praying with them.
 

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Posted by Olaf (# 11804) on :
 
Not sure this warrants a thread of its own, but check out:

Church Rescue

a new TV show on the National Geographic channel (or on their website, right now). A team of pastors who call themselves the "Church Hoppers" travel around to churches to help them move beyond their issues. I wasn't very hopeful about the show, until I actually watched it. Now I hope it lasts. The idea of a reality show about fixing churches is an odd premise, admittedly, but it was interesting anyway.
 

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Posted by Qoheleth. (# 9265) on :
 
Fr Desmond Morse-Boycott 'makes' a boy-bishop c.1935: here.

(h/t Watts & Co.)
 

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Posted by Qoheleth. (# 9265) on :
 
And a brilliant Introit for Midnight Mass
 

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Posted by Pancho (# 13533) on :
 
An explanation of the Divine Office by Fr. Jeremy Driscoll, OSB filmed at Mt. Angel Abbey in Oregon: The Divine Office
 

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Posted by Pancho (# 13533) on :
 
The Archdiocese of Chicago released a video that gives a simple explanation of the structure and meaning of the Catholic Mass. The video also offers glimpses of different churches around the archdiocese.

Draw Near - A Video Guide to the Catholic Mass
 

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Posted by Pancho (# 13533) on :
 
Here's a video of a Mass from the Canons Regular of St. John Cantius in Chicago. It's celebrated ad orientem by Auxiliary Bishop Joseph N. Perry of Chicago. The video was filmed several years ago so what is heard is the previous English translation.

Pontifical High Mass for the Feast of St. Peter and St. Paul (Ordinary Form)
 

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Posted by Pancho (# 13533) on :
 
Lucian Pavarotti and his father Fernando sing "Panis Angelicus" during Mass at Modena Cathedral in Italy.

Panis Angelicus - Pavarotti Father & Son Duet
 

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Posted by Pancho (# 13533) on :
 
If you've never been to an Armenian Divine Liturgy, here is your opportunity:

Armenian Orthodox Divine Liturgy narrated in English

It lasts about an hour.
 

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Posted by Galilit (# 16470) on :
 
WOW!
Loved the wee bells! "Angel voices" indeed!
And a Lady Lector!
 

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Posted by Pancho (# 13533) on :
 
We now turn our eyes farther east to India* with a guided tour of the Holy Qurbana of the Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church. They are a part of the St. Thomas Christians of Kerala, India. Their Catholic counterpart is the Syro-Malankara Catholic Church.

The video is narrated in English. The narration goes over most of the praying and singing but it makes up for this by being very thorough and informative. The video lasts about 48 minutes.

The Divine Liturgy in the Syrian/Indian Orthodox Rite (Introduction of the Mystagogy of the Rite)


*Actually it looks like this video was filmed in the U.S.

[ 24. March 2014, 20:11: Message edited by: Pancho ]
 

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Posted by ldjjd (# 17390) on :
 
Full video of Choral Evensong and Solemn Benediction at St. Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Cyp7BdUKUgM&app=desktop

[ 25. March 2014, 21:45: Message edited by: ldjjd ]
 

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Posted by Pancho (# 13533) on :
 
We now hop on a freighter, cross the Indian Ocean and head to Egypt for a Coptic Divine Liturgy celebrated in English at Heavenly Cathedral, Sharm El-Sheikh on the Sinai Peninsula:

The Coptic Orthodox Divine Liturgy in English Complete

Grab some popcorn, folks. The video lasts about an hour and a half.
 

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Posted by ldjjd (# 17390) on :
 
The complete 2014 Easter High Mass at Saint Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood, is available on You Tube.
 

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Posted by Olaf (# 11804) on :
 

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The complete 2014 Easter High Mass at Saint Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood, is available on You Tube.

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Thank you for this. They do a valuable service by keeping up with social media and videos online. If only all churches did the same. The liturgy is an interesting mixture of different traditions. I'd suggest that anybody watch it at least for the biretta waving during the closing hymn, and the rector's rendition of its second verse: "Ba dum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum..." (The side comments alone imply that this is a fun group to be a part of.)

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Posted by ldjjd (# 17390) on :
 
I'm very glad you enjoyed it, Olaf.

I'd also recommend the Facebook pages of both Fr. Davies and the parish (SAINT - not St. - Thomas the Apostle, Hollywood).
 

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Posted by Hart (# 4991) on :
 
Photos and video from my community's recent celebration of Profession of Perpetual Vows. It felt very different to be there for the first time as a finally professed religious throughout that Mass! (As opposed to last year when I became one during it...)
 

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Posted by Mamacita (# 3659) on :
 
Thanks for the video and photos, Hart. They certainly bring back memories of that joy-filled celebration (making me a little misty, in fact).

The fourth photo, with the panoramic shot of the basilica, is terrific and really gives a sense of its beauty and splendor.
 

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Posted by Sober Preacher's Kid (# 12699) on :
 
IMAGES?!?



THREAD CLOSED
 

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Posted by Pigwidgeon (# 10192) on :
 
Several years ago there was a video that went viral of a Gospel procession at an Easter Vigil. The priest (or deacon) twirled while carrying the Gospel book to the ambo, the acolytes danced with their torches, etc. It was tacky but mesmerizing. When Microsoft ate my favorites, I lost it. Googling and searching Youtube have not found it. Does anyone know where it is?
 

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Posted by leo (# 1458) on :
 

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Several years ago there was a video that went viral of a Gospel procession at an Easter Vigil. The priest (or deacon) twirled while carrying the Gospel book to the ambo, the acolytes danced with their torches, etc. It was tacky but mesmerizing. When Microsoft ate my favorites, I lost it. Googling and searching Youtube have not found it. Does anyone know where it is?

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
There was an Episcopal church in northern Virginia which had some of the most dazzling thurifer action I have ever seen. We were attending an investure. That kid made the censer whirl around and around his head, over the heads of the open-mouthed congregation. He also did figure eights and loop de loop.

This was in the days before YouTube video, but I hope the lore has been handed down and that images exist somewhere.

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Several years ago there was a video that went viral of a Gospel procession at an Easter Vigil. The priest (or deacon) twirled while carrying the Gospel book to the ambo, the acolytes danced with their torches, etc. It was tacky but mesmerizing. When Microsoft ate my favorites, I lost it. Googling and searching Youtube have not found it. Does anyone know where it is?

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
There was an Episcopal church in northern Virginia which had some of the most dazzling thurifer action I have ever seen. We were attending an investure. That kid made the censer whirl around and around his head, over the heads of the open-mouthed congregation. He also did figure eights and loop de loop.

This was in the days before YouTube video, but I hope the lore has been handed down and that images exist somewhere.

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Originally posted by Mudfrog:
This has recently been released - just some highlights:

Carol Concert

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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
There was an Episcopal church in northern Virginia which had some of the most dazzling thurifer action I have ever seen. We were attending an investure. That kid made the censer whirl around and around his head, over the heads of the open-mouthed congregation. He also did figure eights and loop de loop.

This was in the days before YouTube video, but I hope the lore has been handed down and that images exist somewhere.

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Originally posted by leo:
... Gospel read by a laymen (or a clergyman not in a cope and no gospel procession.) ...

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Originally posted by venbede:
Readings never come from the gospel in the RC office, so the question doesn't arise.

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King's College Chapel is CofE and depending on how one dates these things, has been since 1529 or 1558. So, although that's an interesting titbit that I'd never heard before, it doesn't have much bearing on the point here.

One doesn't treat the New Testament reading in Morning or Evening Prayer differently depending on whether it is from one of the four gospels or not. Although I suspect Leo might have been thinking specifically of the In Principe which usually comes last in a carol service, by that point there will have been several gospel readings from St Luke and St Matthew. They are either all 'the gospel' in the liturgical sense or in this context that's a wrong categorisation. Although I suspect Leo knows a lot more about these things than I do, in this case, I think it would be a categorisation error.
 

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Posted by leo (# 1458) on :
 
That's sort of what i meant.

The reason why i differentiate the John 1 reading from the other gospel readings is that people remain standing for it and it has procession with acolytes.
 

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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :
 
There does seem to be a practice of highlighting the final Gospel at a Carol Service (often the Johannine Prologue) with lights, Alleluias, and in our case, incense as well. All of which does provide a suitable climax to the service (and gave me the chance to re-introduce a modest amount of Holy Smoke at a neighbouring parish's Carols by Candlelight).....

Ian J.
 

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Posted by Episcoterian (# 13185) on :
 
I'm not sure if requests are allowed, please forgive me and disregard if not.

It's about on-demand church service videos.

I currently watch the services from Trinity Wall Street and Brick Presbyterian, NYC; St. Andrew & St. Paul, Montreal and the Presbyterian Cathedral, São Paulo. I used to watch Washington National Cathedral's until Dean Samuel Lloyd III left.

While I'll keep getting my high church fix from Trinity, I'd really enjoy seeing some lower, by-the-book, Evangelical (not Charismatic) Anglican worship for comparison. Especially if the preaching is good. Any hints?

Also, are on-demand service videos an American thing? Aren't there any CofE/CofI/SEC/Kirk shacks doing it?
 

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Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :
 
*bumping prior to Board clearance*
 

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Posted by venbede (# 16669) on :
 
I came across this clip from Farnborough Abbey of the first vespers in the Benedictine form for the third Sunday of Advent.

My frivolous question is: There are two men in dalmatics supporting the becoped abbot. One of the dalmatics has a bar of embroidery on the chest and the other doesn't. One of them wears a black biretta and the other one a white biretta. Why the difference? Is one a monk and the other not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxpZW4qx5Uw
 

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Posted by Boadicea Trott (# 9621) on :
 
This may be the answer to the biretta question....
 

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Posted by Augustine the Aleut (# 1472) on :
 

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Originally posted by venbede:
I came across this clip from Farnborough Abbey of the first vespers in the Benedictine form for the third Sunday of Advent.

My frivolous question is: There are two men in dalmatics supporting the becoped abbot. One of the dalmatics has a bar of embroidery on the chest and the other doesn't. One of them wears a black biretta and the other one a white biretta. Why the difference? Is one a monk and the other not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxpZW4qx5Uw

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Originally posted by venbede:
Does use of the Benedictine office count as part of the extraordinary rite? Was there a generally accepted Vat II revision it?

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Originally posted by Enoch:
What's an indult please?

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Originally posted by Forthview:
connected with 'Indulgence' (in whatever way you like)

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 
Requiem for Mother Angelica at Our Lady of the Atonement, San Antonio, Texas.
 

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Posted by Oblatus (# 6278) on :
 

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Originally posted by Oblatus:
Requiem for Mother Angelica at Our Lady of the Atonement, San Antonio, Texas.

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Originally posted by georgiaboy:
Anglican Use parishes have to some extent (and rather against the rules) retained their Anglican attitudes of a) 'That's the way we've always done it.', b) 'That's the way they do it at SMtV/Bourne St/ASMS (take your pick)', c) 'I like it that way,' d) the bishop won't know or doesn't care.'
This is so culturally ingrained in the Anglo-Catholic ethos that walking through the Tiber isn't likely to erase it. At least IMNSHO.

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Posted by Angloid (# 159) on :
 

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Originally posted by georgiaboy:
Anglican Use parishes have to some extent (and rather against the rules) retained their Anglican attitudes of a) 'That's the way we've always done it.', b) 'That's the way they do it at SMtV/Bourne St/ASMS (take your pick)', c) 'I like it that way,' d) the bishop won't know or doesn't care.'
This is so culturally ingrained in the Anglo-Catholic ethos that walking through the Tiber isn't likely to erase it. At least IMNSHO.

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Originally posted by Adam.:
Did you notice that this is an Anglican Use parish? I know pretty much nothing about the details of their liturgy, so if you've actually looked into all of these things, I'll take your word for it. All of the things you mention would be quite proper in the Ordinary Form. (I agree about the bells on thurible, but that's a matter of taste).

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Holy God, holy Mighty, holy Immortal, born of the Virgin, have mercy on us.

Holy God, holy Mighty, holy Immortal, crucified for us, have mercy on us.

Holy God, holy Mighty, holy Immortal, Who rose from the dead and ascended into the heavens, have mercy on us.

Glory to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit, now and ever and to the ages of ages. Amen.

O Holy Trinity, have mercy on us!

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Originally posted by venbede:
the altar candles are unlit as far as I can see.

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No thurifer nor acolytes - can't get the staff these says
 

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Posted by Fr Weber (# 13472) on :
 
Next time I'll bring my own support staff.
 

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