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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Stetson:
re: the frogs in Magnolia...
My take on that was that the film was, in part, tributing those 1970s disaster movies(Earthquake, Towering Inferno), which followed the morally problematic lives of various individuals in a city(often in California), and then had them all swept away or burned up in an Old Testament-style catastrophe.
Except that Anderson gives us a catastrophe that is not just Old Testament-style, but a direct lift from the Old Testament.
According to Anderson himself, he'd just been reading a lot of Fort and thought it would be cool to throw a rain of frogs into a film, and have it be a turning point in the story in some way. Later people pointed out the Exodus connection, and that only made it funnier to him.
I have an affection for this movie--- I think it has to do with the pacing-- like or don't like the story, but it is told fluidly. Also, I despise Tom Cruise, but this is one of several of his performances that force me to admit his prowess whether I like him or not.
Anderson is very good at pacing; his films are like orchestra movements. I keep getting sucked into Boogie Nights over and over again for this very reason-- the flow takes me over.
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The Old Man and The Sea is one of the two most boring films I've ever seen. The other is Dances With Wolves .
I had the misfortune of watching the extended-mega-bore-you-to-death version of Dances With Wolves with a friend who was a huge fan; by the end of the film, she very nearly wasn't my friend any more.
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Gextvedde
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The Football Factory
Absolutely repulsive shit with no redeeming features. I found nearly all the characters to be completely foul (apart from a couple of old war veterans) and I came away with a deep sense of agitation and sadness about the world.
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Ad Orientem
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Originally posted by Gextvedde:
The Football Factory
Absolutely repulsive shit with no redeeming features. I found nearly all the characters to be completely foul (apart from a couple of old war veterans) and I came away with a deep sense of agitation and sadness about the world.
Not the best film in it's genre, I agree. I.D. was a good film though, I thought.
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Stetson
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Pine Marten wrote:
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I've got a dvd of this - but I got it after seeing the brilliant Ed Wood with Johnny Depp as Ed and Martin Landau as Bela. Laugh out loud funny but truly touching as well. A lovely film... which really can't be said of Plan 9, which has its own, jawdroppingly brand of WTF??!
I saw Glen Or Glenda and Plan 9 in high school, at the usual cult-film screening. We had a good time shouting mockery at the screen, especially during the scene in GOG where Bela Lugosi(despite being only the narraror) was, for reasons I couldn't figure out, was trying to make someone disappear.
When I finally got around to seeing the Tim Burton film, I felt slightly bad about having mocked Lugosi, since(at least according to Burton) being in those films meant a lot to him at that point in his career.
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According to Anderson himself, he'd just been reading a lot of Fort and thought it would be cool to throw a rain of frogs into a film, and have it be a turning point in the story in some way. Later people pointed out the Exodus connection, and that only made it funnier to him.
If I may ask, who or what is Fort?
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Stetson
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Gextvedde
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Originally posted by Ad Orientem:
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Originally posted by Gextvedde:
The Football Factory
Absolutely repulsive shit with no redeeming features. I found nearly all the characters to be completely foul (apart from a couple of old war veterans) and I came away with a deep sense of agitation and sadness about the world.
Not the best film in it's genre, I agree. I.D. was a good film though, I thought.
I'd agree with you there I.D is much better. An aquaintance of mine was an extra in it which in no way affects my judgement of course.
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LeRoc
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Out Of Africa
I couldn't even tell you what it is that I don't like about it, because I slept through most of it.
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Hedgehog
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I have developed a growing dislike for the 1959 version of Ben-Hur, with Charlton Heston. It is a combination of factors. There is Heston's one-note acting (seriously, his facial expression when he is overjoyed is identical to his facial expression when he is angry). There is the annoyance that his love interest speaks with an accent--that would be forgivable if she allegedly came from some other country, but she grew up next to him! And then there is the odd choices that the screenplay took with the source material: Near the end of the movie, Heston describes his seeing Jesus (on the way to crucifixion) and says something to the effect of "when I saw his face the sword dropped from my hand." Very moving. Except that Chuck didn't have a sword in his hand--not even metaphorically. Ever since the chariot race, he was just moping about (using a facial expression that--in other contexts--also serves to show that he is having a good time).
The line does make sense in the book and in the silent-film version. In both of those, Judah ben Hur devotes his riches to raise an army to come to the aid of Jesus, with the hopes of making Jesus an earthly king. When he sees Jesus' face on the way to the crucifixion, the sword literally AND metaphorically drops from his hand. He disbands the army.
Actually, I didn't realize just how very bad the 1959 version of the film was until I saw the silent version with Ramon Navarro & Francis X. Bushman. The silent version is excellent--certainly in my Top 20 movie list if not in the Top 10. By comparison, the 1959 version is overlong, pompous, bland and wooden.
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I watch as much of The Ten Commandments as I can when they show it on TV on Easter weekend. It may have been an amazing feature when it was released, but it has not aged well; nonetheless, it is, by far, my favorite bad movie. The imposition on 1950s American concepts of freedom and 1950s Hollywood concepts of storytelling on the Bible is so bad, it's good. I've never seen Ben-Hur, but I suspect that you would have to enjoy it in the same way- just embrace the terrible campy delivery of every line. (Even I have my limits- I tried to watch Yul Brynner in "Solomon and Sheba" last weekend while I was still in the afterglow of this year's Ten Commandments viewing, and I couldn't make it past the first half hour.)
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Starbug:
The Old Man and The Sea is one of the two most boring films I've ever seen.
Probably because it's based on the most boring book ever written.
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Sir Kevin
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
...there is one Great Film I have tried to watch a number of times, and I just haven't been able to get into it. Dr. Strangelove. I know, that makes me a cretin, but I just find it too buzzy-- it gives me the same feeling white noise does..
...or How I learned to love the Bomb!
How could you not enjoy one of the great roles of the great Peter Sellers? I've seen it two or three times - likely once when it first came out! High camp! Maybe you just weren't in the mood - try getting it on DVD and drinking more aggressively next time!
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Kaplan Corday
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Most disappointing film ever: A Fish Called Wanda.
As a boomer who grew up with Python I approached it with great hopes, but didn't crack a smile.
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Stetson
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Sir Kevin wrote:
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How could you not enjoy one of the great roles of the great Peter Sellers? I've seen it two or three times - likely once when it first came out!
What mars that film for me is the ham-fisted script. Someone once described Terry Southern's sense of humor as "haw haw haw, did'ja get it", which seemed rather fitting. But I agree, Peter Sellers performances are terrific, as they almost always were.
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High camp!
Not to be pedantic, but isn't camp supposed to be unintentionally funny? As in, it's trying to be serious, not succeeding, and ends up being funny as a result? Low-budget slasher films, for example.
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Other then the bar scene STAR WARS did not interest me. I do not remember the name of the second movie, but I liked it better.
I liked Gone with the Wind, but then I saw it when I was 16 and have not seen it again. Somethings are better in old memories then reliving them.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
How could you not enjoy one of the great roles of the great Peter Sellers? I've seen it two or three times - likely once when it first came out! High camp! Maybe you just weren't in the mood - try getting it on DVD and drinking more aggressively next time!
I keep trying it again, and I keep not getting it. Shrug) Must be a biorhythm thing.
Also I'm "in program", so aggressive drinking ain't gonna happen.
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LeRoc
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Graven Image: the bar scene
I hope you are referring to the original screening where Han Shot First?
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Inspiration for that invaluable publication Fortean Times
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I saw Glen Or Glenda and Plan 9 in high school, at the usual cult-film screening. We had a good time shouting mockery at the screen, especially during the scene in GOG where Bela Lugosi(despite being only the narraror) was, for reasons I couldn't figure out, was trying to make someone disappear.
Also . Sounds like a Kelly night out. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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basso
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The first Star Wars film was a hoot - the Heinlein juveniles of mmy yoot with splashy special effects.
Then, like RAH, Lucas discovered that he was making Significant Things, and the quality took a nosedive.
The fourth was almost unendurable. Not the character whose name I won't type (well, yeah, him too) but that awful race scene that seemed to take up an hour and a half of screen time. I start fidgeting at the start of almost any chase or fight scene.
But my favorite movie is probably Doctor Zhivago, so I'm the wrong one to ask.
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Sir Kevin
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Mine is LA DOLCE VITA: Anita Ekberg, Marcello Mastroianni, Anouk Aimee, black and white, two reels, 1960.
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American Graffiti.
Great soundtrack, boring movie. Maybe you had to have had grown up in the 1950's to get it? It seemed like all they did in that movie was ride around in cars and talk about nothing!
Titanic.
Looked great, but storyline with Jack and Rose really LAME and corny. There were so many interesting real people on the Titanic, so why make it all about these fictional people? And the film was way too long.
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Out Of Africa
I couldn't even tell you what it is that I don't like about it, because I slept through most of it.
Yup.
Pro: nice scenery
Cons: too long
boring characters
no chemistry between Redford and Streep
Did I mention loooonnnngg?
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"Arsenic and Old Lace" is supposedly a classic and I tried to watch it because I love Cary Grant but this movie... ugh! Cary Grant must have needed the money badly because he just seems like he's forcing a performance that just isn't there. I've tried three times to get to the end of this film and I just can't do it.
I also never cared for Vertigo. It left me cold. It's incredibly dull and the leads have zero chemistry.
"The Godfather": Misogynistic crap and overlong. Marlon Brando is supposed to be so brilliant in this? Vile story. Pacino was really good but that's about the only thing the film has going for it.
I can't remember the name of this one... "Touch of Evil"? With Orson Welles and Charlton Heston... yeah, riiiiight! We're supposed to believe that Charlton Heston is a Mexican?! And, God... his "acting" ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by The5thMary:
I can't remember the name of this one... "Touch of Evil"? With Orson Welles and Charlton Heston... yeah, riiiiight! We're supposed to believe that Charlton Heston is a Mexican?! And, God... his "acting"
Maybe so, but the opening shot was amazing! (and yeah, it is "Touch of Evil.)
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How could you not enjoy one of the great roles of the great Peter Sellers? I've seen it two or three times - likely once when it first came out! High camp! Maybe you just weren't in the mood - try getting it on DVD and drinking more aggressively next time!
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Nope, sorry, Kevin. I have to agree with Kelly Alves on this one. I hate Slim Pickens anyway, and this movie didn't make me feel anymore warm and fuzzy for him. I hated Sellers in this movie. I tried and tried to find the funniness in this but gave up. I think it's highly, highly overrated just like a few of the Monty Python movies.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
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Count me squarely in the camp of the Strangelove fans. Sellers was brilliant. His Mandrake character had one of the best one-liners of all times: When Jack Ripper is questioning Mandrake about his time as a Japanese prisoner of war. I can't quote verbatim, but this was the gist of it:
R. Did they torture you?
M. Yes, they did, Jack. Wasn't pretty.
R. Did you talk?
M. No, no, I didn't, Jack. I don't think they wanted me to talk, really. It was just their way of having a bit of fun, the swine.
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Timothy the Obscure
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I fell asleep 20 minutes into "Brazil". My wife stayed awake for the whole thing and said it wasn't that bad (I was the one who insisted on renting it).
I'm a huge Altman fan, but I walked out of "Images" after half an hour. A movie should be about something other than atmosphere.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Stetson:
LilBuddha wrote:
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The only Hitchcock film one is aloud to dislike is The Birds.
I quite like The Birds. Granted, the special effects don't hold up at all over time, but that's a problem with almost any special effects.
I think it holds up. The actors did impressive jobs (well, Rod Taylor was kind of a dud.) The special effects never got to me as much as the simple stuff, like the ominous growth of the crow flock on the monkey bars at the school.
The amazing thing is how Hitchcock upended the towns of Bodega and Bodega Bay to get the single town he wanted--there's a great shot where Tippi Hedren is standing on the porch of the general store/ post office and the postmaster points across the road-- cut to a shot of a long road running to the bay. He was actually pointing East, toward the inland Petaluma hills. Hitchcock had to (cinematically) flip the whole store around and remove a row of rolling hills blocking the west view of the bay to get that shot.
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I can't stand James Bond films as they are so plastic and predictable and I don't like the way the women in them are portrayed showing as much flesh as possible with as few brains as required. Another film I have never enjoyed is Dr Zhivago, one which most others love. I find it so long and tedious. It just goes on and on and I drop off to sleep.
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I'm embarrassed to say this as a Beatles fan, but Magical Mystery Tour was truly dreadful. It wanders all over than place and nothing really happens. The thing that annoys me most is that Ringo (dressed as a wizard) keeps sayign 'where's the bus?' but when the bus finally appears, nothing happens! Utter, utter crap that was all Paul McCartney's fault - it was his idea to do a movie without a script.
What makes it worse is that, instead of learning that this was a bad idea, he then repeated the exercise with Give My Regards to Broad Street! Will the man never learn!?
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Originally posted by Stetson:
]One thing Kubrick carried over from his days as a magazine photographer was a talent for making static images look interesting.
Ye Gods! Someone needs to teach the new generation of filmmakers this, most egregiously those from Hollywood. The camera does not continually need to move and 5 year olds with ADHD and a caffeine addiction should not be camera operators.
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Kelly Alves
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Ironically, I like handheld camera work when it is held by a steady hand.(See Lars von Trier.) IOW, I agree.
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Originally posted by Kaplan Corday:
Most disappointing film ever: A Fish Called Wanda.
As a boomer who grew up with Python I approached it with great hopes, but didn't crack a smile.
There were parts I didn't enjoy the first time I saw it (in a theater), but it had more to do with where I was emotionally at the time. I always enjoy Cleese and Palin, but that was the movie where I fell in love with Kevin Kline.
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I've seen "Wanda" quite a few times on DVD and really do enjoy it now.
(And... I got to meet Kevin Kline last year and will again in June )
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By far the best thing about A Fish called Wanda was the name of the barrister played by John Cleese -
Archibald Leach was Cary Grant's real name...
(Why I remember all this crap I don't know but...
Frances Gumm = Judy Garland; James Stewart = Stewart Grainger; John Wayne = Marion Morrison, etc, etc)
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Stetson
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Graven Image wrote:
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Other then the bar scene STAR WARS did not interest me. I do not remember the name of the second movie, but I liked it better.
That one seems to be the consensus favorite. Interestingly, it was directed by Irvin Kershner, who, prior to that point, did not have any significant experience directing hard sci-fi.
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Then, like RAH, Lucas discovered that he was making Significant Things, and the quality took a nosedive.
Hey, I actually loved Return Of The Jedi, the one where Lucas' infection with Jungianitis via the dreaded Campbell virus was at its most full-blown.
But I'm slightly biased, because I got an okay mark in my Children's Literature class BSing about all this stuff. There are others who share your general disdain...
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Earwig
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Originally posted by Starbug:
I'm embarrassed to say this as a Beatles fan, but Magical Mystery Tour was truly dreadful.
I've got a soft spot for MMT because of Ivor Cutler's cameo as Buster Bloodvessel. And anyway, it's much better than 'A Hard Day's Night'. Much better!
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Chapelhead: quote:
And after an hour of James Cameron's Titanic...Sink, damn you, sink!
Add me to the list of people who hated it. I cheered when Jack drowned. Pity it took nearly three hours to happen.
Other 'classic'/critically acclaimed films that I hate:
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Watched the first 20 minutes once and NOTHING EXCITING HAPPENED. It's painfully obvious to any reader of Agatha Christie who the 'mysterious' ninja is. And slow-motion fights that go on and on and on are Simply Not Interesting.
The Matrix Slow-motion fight scenes - see above. Also it had three plots stuck together and they didn't work particularly well. Maybe the producers should have done three separate films instead. Or done the fights in real time.
Shrek Getting Shrek to deliver his lines in a so-called Scottish accent that keeps appearing and disappearing like the Cheshire Cat is NOT funny. Not to anyone familiar with real Scottish accents, anyway. Also, they spend far too much time taking the Mickey out of Disney and not enough time telling their *own* story. And *they* have slow-motion fights as well (see above).
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A propos of nothing much besides the Beatles tangent, but I will say that, judging from what I have seen on You Tube, the 1978 film based on Sgt. Pepper certainly lives up to its reputation as unwatchable.
And any outraged Beatles fans should be informed that George Martin was a willing participant in this.
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Barnabas62
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Yes, Ed Wood is miles better than Plan 9. I had to see the latter as part of a high school film class. Only two movies in my life that have literally put me to sleep, that is one (my teacher didn't like that) and the other was Young Einstein.
[ETA: Glen or Glenda was pretty cool, though.]
I've never seen that! It will be added to the list of movies I really want to watch. Thanks, Kelly, Pine Marten.
Imagine having a DVD of "Plan Nine". I'm impressed.
I'm a believer in teaching people by saying "this is how NOT to do it" but I reckon Ed Wood had this unique instinct for spotting how not to do it and just did it because he thought it was "the way to go". Strange road to a kind of immortality ...
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LilBuddha wrote:
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The only Hitchcock film one is aloud to dislike is The Birds.
I quite like The Birds. Granted, the special effects don't hold up at all over time, but that's a problem with almost any special effects.
I think it holds up. The actors did impressive jobs (well, Rod Taylor was kind of a dud.) The special effects never got to me as much as the simple stuff, like the ominous growth of the crow flock on the monkey bars at the school.
That's my favorite scene in the whole film. Especially with the musical accompaniment, courtesy of the children...
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Nickety-nackety, retrical quality
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Watching Saving Private Ryan after school today because I missed it at the cinema a decade and a half ago and it seems that it is an important film. I'll let you know how it goes in about twelve hours. Z thinks it is too gory for her and likely will not watch it!
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Og, King of Bashan
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"The Godfather": Misogynistic crap and overlong. Marlon Brando is supposed to be so brilliant in this? Vile story. Pacino was really good but that's about the only thing the film has going for it.
I can't remember the name of this one... "Touch of Evil"? With Orson Welles and Charlton Heston... yeah, riiiiight! We're supposed to believe that Charlton Heston is a Mexican?! And, God... his "acting"
Wait... a movie about a bunch of Sicilian American male gangsters in the 50s was misogynistic? Never would have guessed. Yes, it is too long. And the real acting tour de force in those movies is De Niro in part two. BUT...
Like "Touch of Evil," a lot of the brilliance in the two Godfather movies (I have never seen part 3, but have been informed that it doesn't count,) is in the camera and editing work. They have their slow and bad moments, but there are also moments of artistic genius. The baptism scene at the end of the Godfather is brutally violent, but the juxtaposition of Michal renouncing the devil and his hit men killing all of his enemies is pretty fantastic, and the music is inspired. In part two, the scene where young Vito jumps from rooftop to rooftop during the religious procession on his way to take out Don Fanucci is unbelievably good.
The stories make them "guy" movies, but the camera work is why they have the high reputation that they do.
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Another film I have never enjoyed is Dr Zhivago, one which most others love. I find it so long and tedious. It just goes on and on and I drop off to sleep.
God bless you bib, I couldn't agree more. What a bloated waste of perfectly good film. Three hours, was it?
Which Star Wars movie had Jar Jar Binks in it? That one defined "unwatchable."
Any "great" movie with more than one scene in a therapist's office. "Ordinary People" for example. Many Woody Allen productions, for another. Actually just one scene in a therapist's office will do it.
Some people think that Merchant Ivory films are great when in fact they all suck.
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The Batman films. Increasingly. Pretentious wouldn't be in it.
Except for the very first, back in the 60s, which is a joy!
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Og, King of Bashan:
The stories make them "guy" movies, but the camera work is why they have the high reputation that they do.
Actually I would argue that part of the point of the movies is how grotesquely misogynistic Mafia culture is. Doesn't make it any easier to watch, though.
The camera work and direction are a really great example of "letting the camera tell the story," as you say. Scorsese doesn't give us anybody to stand outside that world and say"Oh, the Horror!"-- that's our job. The baptism scene is a perfect illustration of that. Nobody declares Michael Corleone to be a double-sided monster; the direction, the camera, and the editing simply show this happening and make us do the work.
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The Batman films. Increasingly. Pretentious wouldn't be in it.
Except for the very first, back in the 60s, which is a joy!
Hee!
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Originally posted by bib:
Another film I have never enjoyed is Dr Zhivago, one which most others love. I find it so long and tedious. It just goes on and on and I drop off to sleep.
God bless you bib, I couldn't agree more. What a bloated waste of perfectly good film. Three hours, was it?
Heh. I knew when I confessed to loving Zhivago that there were people like you two out there. Takes all kinds, right?
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There were parts I didn't enjoy the first time I saw it (in a theater), but it had more to do with where I was emotionally at the time.
That's a huge part of our reaction to some movies. I first saw that one when my wife was home sick with cancer, and her best friend brought over a VCR and a copy of the movie, to cheer her up. It was a noble effort, but it failed. I saw it again many years later and howled with laughter.
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"The English Patient" was an absolute GIFT if, like me, you read the book and couldn't figure out what the heck was going on (a recurring problem for me with Ondaatje's novels). After I saw the movie I could figure out what the plot was meant to be, and then was able to re-read the book and make some sense out of it.
The English Patient had a plot?
That is the ONLY film my wife and I have ever seen, and then on the way back to the car said, "Why did we bother to sit through that whole thing?"
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Kelly Alves
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The English Patient had a plot?
![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif) (Thank you.)
And sorry, Bas, I am on the "Don't quite get Dr Zhivago" team-- I always blamed something missing in myself for that. Again, maybe it's all about biorhythms.
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Anna B: Which Star Wars movie had Jar Jar Binks in it? That one defined "unwatchable."
Don't... say... that... name...
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