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Kelly Alves

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Originally posted by Ariston:
Now, here's the thing that really and truly annoys me about some of you rubes—what do you mean, you mix the sauce in with the pasta? If you do that, all you get is an undifferentiated morass of schtuff, rather than the properly separated but intermixible combination of pasta, then sauce, then, if you want it, grated cheese/garnish/chile pepper/olive oil. It makes the presentation much nicer, it allows you to have a few bites of pasta without the topping just to get the flavor, and it allows you to control the sauce/pasta ratio you want for each individual bite. If I wanted a mixture of pasta and liquid, I would have made noodle soup, not spaghetti.

Oh, and I twirl the fork against the plate, even if both my parents insist quite firmly that the only polite way to do it is against the spoon.

This is how I like it, too, but for some reason it hasn't rendered me all precious about it. [Big Grin]

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Gill H

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Originally posted by L'organist:
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Mind you, it's only 30 years since spaghetti in the UK only came in a tin covered in gloopy tomato sauce, and was eaten on top of toast. Baby steps...

err, No.

There were Italian restaurants serving proper spaghetti in most cities by the 1960s.

And there were specialist grocery shops wherever there was an Italian community.

To put it another way, my family (Welsh) was cooking and eating proper pasta in the 1950s even when in rural Cheshire...

In my area of South Wales the local Bracchi's and Rabaiotti's stuck to serving fish and chips. Our local food shops were a Spar and a Co-op, and you only bought dried pasta for making necklaces and pictures.

We didn't have pizza till we got a Sainsbury's in the 1980s. My mum tried to grill them ...

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Ariel
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Italian food was part of the everyday menu in our house when I was growing up in the Sixties. My mother enjoyed cooking and we often got homemade pizza, and of course, spaghetti. I remember exclaiming in disappointment when we went on holiday to Rome and trying the pizza there, "It tastes like the sort Mum makes." For some reason my mother was delighted by this.

Pizza and pasta (various different kinds) were a normal part of the menu. My mother would make the bread dough as well as the pasta sauce, and to this day my favourite pizza is still the Margherita.

I used to make a spaghetti bolognaise sauce that includes red wine, a little bit of bacon (pancetta wasn't widely available in those days) and some chicken livers as well as the meat. Ideally, it needs at least an hour to cook, but it does taste all the better for it. I haven't always put bacon or chicken liver in, or waited an hour, but I do regard wine as an essential ingredient and I never put mushrooms in.

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no prophet: Thus, I say the poll is flawed. There is no option for naked spaghetti eating with the fingers.
Just as long as you're sure it's your fingers you're using.

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Alaric the Goth
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Before I went to University (aged over 18), the only spaghetti I had ever eaten came out of a tin, courtesy of 'Mr 57 Varieties'! Spaghetti hoops were good: you could try to get as many as possible around each prong of the fork! 'Spaghetti bolognese' tasted better. These were both 'tea time' foods, served after 5pm (i.e. not the main meal of the day, which was always at 'dinnertime', that is between 12.15 and 2.15 pm), on (buttered) toast. [Eek!]

Possibly besacuse of this (NE of England)upbringing, I have always chopped up spaghetti into 'manageable lengths' and, though I cook pasta often, I don't cook spaghetti, though will eat it if someone else has made it. It is still my least-favourite pasta because of the difficulty eating it!

[ 22. May 2013, 12:11: Message edited by: Alaric the Goth ]

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ken
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Originally posted by lily pad:
You pick up a few noodles with the very end of the fork, then you place the tips against the inside of the bowl of the spoon - spoon and fork are at right angles to oneanother - and you twirl the fork while keeping the tines touching the spoon. The result is a tightly wound mass of spaghetti and sauce that, hopefully, just fills your mouth and is not too much of a mouthful otherwise you must dump that out and begin again.

But that works just as well without a spoon!

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Originally posted by Alaric the Goth:
Before I went to University (aged over 18), the only spaghetti I had ever eaten came out of a tin, courtesy of 'Mr 57 Varieties'! Spaghetti hoops were good: you could try to get as many as possible around each prong of the fork! 'Spaghetti bolognese' tasted better. These were both 'tea time' foods, served after 5pm (i.e. not the main meal of the day, which was always at 'dinnertime', that is between 12.15 and 2.15 pm), on (buttered) toast.

Yep. Same here in the south east! Spaghetti came in tins, you ate it on toast, and it was a mild luxury. In childhood at least. I think I got used to Real Spaghetti in the very late 60s or early 70s - before I went to university, but when I was more than a little kid.

At the age of 10, in the 1960s, I quite genuinely did not know what a pizza was. I'd never seen one in the flesh, only in American comics or TV shows.

It wasn't for lack of local Italians. We even knew some Italians. Some of then even ran a restaurant. But as far as we were aware it sold ice cream. In those days you didn't eat meals in restaurants. Or people like us didn't anyway. A little cafe now and again. Eating out was about sweets and snacks, not cooked meals. If anywhere we went had sold pizza (I suppose its possible they did) then it probably wouldn't have occured to our Mum or Dad to buy it for us, because we'd be having our tea when we got home. Takeaway food was either fish-and-chips or various knds of pies and sausages. Indian and Chinese takeaways were about to take off (to be joined by Italian, Turkish and Thai not long later, in about that order) but they hadn't done so yet.

All that changed in the 1970s, hugely, but that's how it was for most of the 60s.

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Originally posted by Alaric the Goth:
I have always chopped up spaghetti into 'manageable lengths'!

Rest assured he has been admonished for this blasphemy on a number of occasions. We can but hope for his final deliverance.

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Ariel
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I suppose it depends where you were. We travelled a lot, anyway, so eating out and restaurants were no novelty. I also liked going out for fish and chips when in England. However, it wasn’t until I got to university that I had Indian food for the first time (other than horrible 70s curries), and Chinese. Vegetarianism was a real novelty then – I remember the dinner ladies at school gathering round to look at this person who didn’t want to eat meat.

I remember spaghetti hoops on toast – quite liked those.

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Thanks everyone - 82 responses and a thread that goes onto a second page is good going.

I'm sorry, no prophet, that I didn't include the 'finger food' option. I have read about this, but it was asserted that spaghetti was not a suitable finger food. Maybe we'll have try it at the next church bring'n'share buffet.

The poll closed during the night so you've had your chance. Happy eating!

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quote:
Originally posted by ken:
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Originally posted by lily pad:
You pick up a few noodles with the very end of the fork, then you place the tips against the inside of the bowl of the spoon - spoon and fork are at right angles to oneanother - and you twirl the fork while keeping the tines touching the spoon. The result is a tightly wound mass of spaghetti and sauce that, hopefully, just fills your mouth and is not too much of a mouthful otherwise you must dump that out and begin again.

But that works just as well without a spoon!

No it doesn't. Without a spoon you would have to use the plate as the hard surface to twirl the fork against. The plate is a horizontal surface, so your fork will be in a fairly vertical position at the end of the twirling process. Spaghetti is slippery, and likely to slip off the fork when it is brought from the vertical position to a more horizontal position when brought to the mouth. The beauty of the spoon is that it allows you to twirl with the fork at an angle more approaching horizontal (ie with the spoon held sideways - if for example you had the spoon in your left hand and the fork in your right, the bowl of the spoon would be pointing slightly upwards, but towards your right). The spoon can also be used to push the twirled ball of spaghetti more securely onto the fork, by changing the angle at which it is held just as you release the fork.

(I'm sure there must be a YouTube clip somewhere, that explain in a couple of seconds what I've just attempted to convey with far too many words!)

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Gracious rebel: Without a spoon you would have to use the plate as the hard surface to twirl the fork against.
I can also imagine that if you do this often, you might damage the ceramics of the plate.

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YMMV but chopsticks are actually easier and quicker than a fork (and spoon), although I really don't recommend watching anyone trying to eat spaghetti/noodles with them.
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Er, no, you hold the fork more or less horizontally when you put the spaghetti on it. Just as with any other food. And give it a twirl or two if you need to to wind up stray strands. . What's so hard about that?

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LeRoc

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ken: Er, no, you hold the fork more or less horizontally when you put the spaghetti on it. Just as with any other food. And give it a twirl or two if you need to to wind up stray strands.
Now I'm confused. Do you put the spaghetti on the fork, or do you twirl it around it?


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Sioni Sais: Thanks everyone - 82 responses and a thread that goes onto a second page is good going.
We haven't even properly started! [Biased]

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How about this? [Biased]

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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Originally posted by ken:
Er, no, you hold the fork more or less horizontally.

No, it is held at a 45 degree angle with the tines embedded in the spaghetti as you twirl. And you wouldn't apply so much pressure that it would damage the plate.

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