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An die Freude
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There is currently serious talk about renaming Arlanda Airport in Stockholm after Raoul Wallenberg, the diplomat who saved 40 000 Jews during WWII before the communists arrested him for it. Other suggestions have included the Alfred Nobel Airport. My personal favourite Swede, who happens to be a local from the closest city, is Dag Hammarskjöld, but given that he was killed off by means of plane crash, that would be a brutal irony at best. Sort of like the JFK shooting ground or the Lincoln Theatre.
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Gill H
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The trouble with naming things after people is that history changes reputations. I suspect there are many hospital wings who were until recently named after Jimmy Saville, for example.
Is it true that the inscription at John Lennon airport 'Above us only sky' is followed by the graffiti 'Below us only West Ham'?
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Albertus
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Originally posted by JFH:
My personal favourite Swede, who happens to be a local from the closest city, is Dag Hammarskjöld, but given that he was killed off by means of plane crash, that would be a brutal irony at best. Sort of like the JFK shooting ground or the Lincoln Theatre.
Oh, I like that. let's have airports named after Buddy Holly, Amelia Earhart, Glenn Miller and John Denver too.
Though there is actually a Harold Holt swimming pool in Melbourne, presumably with its own Chinese mini-submarine lurking in the deep end .
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L'organist
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An airport named after Churchill would be ghastly.
WHY?
Churchill was a great man - not just a great wartime Prime Minister but also a great writer.
Just what do you have against him?
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by L'organist:
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An airport named after Churchill would be ghastly.
WHY?
Churchill was a great man - not just a great wartime Prime Minister but also a great writer.
Just what do you have against him?
I think Rosa Winkel is Welsh. IIRC Churchill called the troops in to break a miners' strike when he was Home Secretary, and this has not been forgotten.
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Albertus
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In fact, what he actually did was send Met police, and hold troops back in reserve outside the Valleys rather than sending them in immediately as the coalowners and the Chief Constable of Glamorgan were wanting him to. In other words, he refused to bow to the iron-fist instincts of the local magnates. But that's not how South Walian Labourist tradition, which loves its martyrs even if it has to make them up, remembers it.
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Albertus
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Well, at the risk of getting Purgatorial or even hellish, a lot of people shared those views a century ago: indeed, they were often seen as being the mark of the 'progressive' (and the Edwardian Churchill, certainly, was very much a Radical). But that's the thing about heroes, isn't it- you have to take them, and their times, as you find them. Which is probably a very good reason for sticking to geographical names for airports.
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Zach82
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Could "Separate taps for hot and cold water International Airport" be anywhere in the UK, or just in England?
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Pre-cambrian
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When we were decommissioning our last aircraft carrier there was a suggestion that Easyjet would buy it, anchor it in the Atlantic, and call it America.
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Zach82
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Originally posted by Pre-cambrian:
When we were decommissioning our last aircraft carrier there was a suggestion that Easyjet would buy it, anchor it in the Atlantic, and call it America.
I don't get it.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Pre-cambrian:
When we were decommissioning our last aircraft carrier there was a suggestion that Easyjet would buy it, anchor it in the Atlantic, and call it America.
I don't get it.
Easyjet (and other budget airlines) are prone to selling flights to "Paris", "Venice", "Frankfurt" and the like then flying in to some minor airfield two hours away (by very occasional bus or train) from the ostensible destination. On that basis Easyjet would moor the carrier somewhere in the Sargasso.
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L'organist
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Rosa W
No more am I a fan of eugenics, etc.
But then, times now are different.
Churchill was not alone in his views at the time.
Moreover, given the history of the movement to forcibly sterilise those deemed "feeble-minded" it is likely he got into this through his American connections.
He was not Home Secretary by the time the legislation was introduced.
He was not present at the Conference on Eugenics in London.
Britain never brought in forced detention or forced sterilisation.
So your objections to Churchill are???
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jedijudy
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I think that's quite enough of the Churchill/eugenics/sterilization tangent. If you feel the honest need to discuss this, please start a thread in Purgatory or Hell.
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Uriel
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Could we have bland soul destroying building with ridiculous car parking, overpriced food and overzealous security airport, or would that describe just about all of them? I always find the worst thing about going on holiday is the time spent in UK airports. Could someone recommend an airport which is pleasant to be in?
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Pomona
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Even if one has favourable views of Churchill, he is honoured a lot already and doesn't need an airport - he's already knocked a woman who isn't honoured enough off a banknote. Elizabeth Fry airport would be much more fitting. Or, indeed, Clement Attlee Airport.
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Albertus
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Well, why not Jane Austen airport, if you think she's not honoured enough? Southampton, I suppose, would be the nearest to her grave.
When Branson gets his commercial spaceflights going I suggest they fly from HG Wells/ Jeff Wayne Spaceport. That way they could at least sing the announcements about the inevitable cancellations ('The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million-to-one...we apologise to customers for any incovenience this may cause')
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Pomona
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Originally posted by Albertus:
Well, why not Jane Austen airport, if you think she's not honoured enough? Southampton, I suppose, would be the nearest to her grave.
When Branson gets his commercial spaceflights going I suggest they fly from HG Wells/ Jeff Wayne Spaceport. That way they could at least sing the announcements about the inevitable cancellations ('The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million-to-one...we apologise to customers for any incovenience this may cause')
Churchill knocked Elizabeth Fry off the £5 note, not Jane Austen - and Jane Austen has plenty of honour already. Elizabeth Fry doesn't.
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L'organist
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Surely an elegant solution would be to name airports after famous fliers.
And you could honour female fliers by naming after members of the Air Transport Auxiliary (ATA).
So, we could have airports named for Amy Johnson, Maureen Dunlop, Pauline Gower, Diana Barnato Walker, plus we could name some after male pilots - anyone for Guy Gibson airport?
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Albertus
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Diana Barnato Walker is too classy a name not to be used. I am slightly surprised, come to think of it, that whatever airport serves Hull isn't named after Amy Johnson.
As for Guy Gibson, he could have Cardiff, actually- he was married in Penarth. I quite like the idea of international ports etc having names that might wind up foreigners. Always thought it was a shame that they moved the Eurotunnel terminus from Waterloo, and that the least they could do would be to rename St Pancras International to compensate: I think that London Mers-el-Kebir would have bit of a ring to it.
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L'organist
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Albertus - don't tell me the schoolchild-you stood in that gallery in the Louvre where they have (had) pictures of "all Napoleon's battles" and asked loudly "Where's Waterloo?" - me too.
Seriously, how about all flights to Italy taking off from Boudicca airport?
And definitely all middle-eastern airlines should be in at least an Amy Johnson terminal.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Uriel:
I always find the worst thing about going on holiday is the time spent in UK airports. Could someone recommend an airport which is pleasant to be in?
London City. Easy to get to, great transport links, in and out with no hassle. The planes are mostly tiny, which means passenger throughput is a lot quicker (though obviously you won't be flying long-haul from here).
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Albertus
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L'organist, d'you know I've never been to the Louvre- but I would have asked that question!
Boudicca would be just right for Stansted, wouldn't it? Right area and everything.
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Albertus
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Baptist Trainfan
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Rab Nesbitt Airport for Glasgow, anyone?
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Anselmina
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Rab Nesbitt Airport for Glasgow, anyone?
Rab C Nesbitt, surely!! Give the man his due!
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balaam
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Originally posted by L'organist:
Surely an elegant solution would be to name airports after famous fliers.
As the prime objective of people on Club 18 39 holidays is to get drunk, they should fly from Sir Douglas Bader airport.
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Albertus
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Cod
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I think London Foulness sounds perfect.
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L'organist
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Yes, but Foulness would only work for an airport name if we built the Boris Island one.
Not that that's such a bad idea - even if it really is just a re-hashing of the old Maplin Sands idea which was junked by the incoming Wilson government in 1974.
Of course, if they'd had the courage of their convictions and built at Cublington we wouldn't be in the mess we are now
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Originally posted by Albertus:
Diana Barnato Walker is too classy a name not to be used. I am slightly surprised, come to think of it, that whatever airport serves Hull isn't named after Amy Johnson.
As for Guy Gibson, he could have Cardiff, actually- he was married in Penarth. I quite like the idea of international ports etc having names that might wind up foreigners. Always thought it was a shame that they moved the Eurotunnel terminus from Waterloo, and that the least they could do would be to rename St Pancras International to compensate: I think that London Mers-el-Kebir would have bit of a ring to it.
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Jengie jon
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Well if aviators it is then Jack Alcock for Manchester surely? Actually his grave is just up the road from it in Southern Cemetery.
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Eutychus
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Originally posted by Rosa Winkel:
The Kościuszko Squadron Airport for whatever airport is closest to Northolt would be a fitting WWII tribute.
That would be RAF Northolt. There's actually a Polish War Memorial close by, famed mostly for its frequent occurrence in London traffic news.
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Albertus
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Originally posted by ken:
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Originally posted by Albertus:
Diana Barnato Walker is too classy a name not to be used. I am slightly surprised, come to think of it, that whatever airport serves Hull isn't named after Amy Johnson.
As for Guy Gibson, he could have Cardiff, actually- he was married in Penarth. I quite like the idea of international ports etc having names that might wind up foreigners. Always thought it was a shame that they moved the Eurotunnel terminus from Waterloo, and that the least they could do would be to rename St Pancras International to compensate: I think that London Mers-el-Kebir would have bit of a ring to it.
Blenheim and Ramillies
Both good choices, but I stick with Mers-el-Kebir for simple gratuitous offensiveness.
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