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Marvin the Martian
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
What's this bollocks about "long evenings"? In most of the UK it's simply a choice of darkness at 3pm or 4pm through most of December and January.
The extra hour of daylight is still more useful between 3pm and 4pm than between 8am and 9am. It may make little difference to a workday, but there are still weekends to consider. During which of those two hours are people more likely to be out and about?
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Dennis the Menace
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Originally posted by JonahMan:
Exactly - so farmers milk or feed the beasts when they need to, rather than needing the clock to tell them when. The cows don't know it's 5am, just that it's x hours since the last time.
One of our now deceased cats would go out for a scratch every night right on the dot of 9.30pm, without fail even when the clock went forward/back. None of the others were so ritual.
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Spike
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
What's this bollocks about "long evenings"? In most of the UK it's simply a choice of darkness at 3pm or 4pm through most of December and January.
The extra hour of daylight is still more useful between 3pm and 4pm than between 8am and 9am. It may make little difference to a workday, but there are still weekends to consider. During which of those two hours are people more likely to be out and about?
Depends on what your working day is. Speaking as a driving instructor, I know that remaking on BST would wreak havoc with driving tests. Also, most people in the building trade start work at 7.30 or 8 and finish at 4.30. This would add an extra hour of darkness to their working day.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
The extra hour of daylight is still more useful between 3pm and 4pm than between 8am and 9am. It may make little difference to a workday, but there are still weekends to consider. During which of those two hours are people more likely to be out and about?
When you're half awake and having to get up early in the morning for 5 days in a row, a bit of daylight can be uplifting. Early morning is when a lot of people set off for work not quite awake, still grumpy, and drive irritably. I'm with those who say it prevents accidents having more daylight at that end of the day. It's not worth changing it just for the sake of weekends which are only two days out of seven.
The over-long evenings in this part of the northern hemisphere can be a real drag if you're trying to get to sleep and the sun is still blazing through your curtains. Ditto at 4.30 am, it ought to be dark at that hour. It encourages anti-social behaviour in the evenings, as well. Equal day and night for me, please.
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Originally posted by Ariel:
When you're half awake and having to get up early in the morning for 5 days in a row, a bit of daylight can be uplifting.
In that case the clocks should change in September. The October change has made no difference to whether I get up in daylight or not.
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Equal day and night for me, please.
then you need to move to the equator. Every place else is going to disappoint you.
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LeRoc
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Originally posted by comet:
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Equal day and night for me, please.
then you need to move to the equator. Every place else is going to disappoint you.
The beer is good here too!
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comet
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Happy Fucking Daylight Savings.
it's 3:30 pm and getting dark. We could have put this off another few weeks, but NoooOOOooo!
stupidest thing ever.
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RuthW
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What pisses me off is that Congress decides the whole country should get up an hour earlier for more than half the year, and we all just toddle along and do it. There is no demonstrable energy savings, so if people want to get up earlier, let them, and let me sleep in peace. They've fucked up March by making the spring time change so early, and I spend weeks trying not to bite people's heads off because the adjustment is so hard to make.
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W Hyatt
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I recently realized that the world is missing a gigantic opportunity with this. Apparently, it's well known around the globe that it is quite virtuous to wake up and start your day early. So maybe we should set our clocks so that sunrise occurs for most of us around 10 AM or so - almost everyone would be up and about by then with hardly any effort. Unless the virtue is not from the angle of the sun in the sky when we wake up - maybe it depends on what time our clocks say it is when we first get out of bed. In which case we could set our clocks so that sunrise occurs around 4 AM - then it would much easier for us all to be awake and functioning by 7 or 8 AM when the sun is well up in the sky.
Of course the obvious problem is first figuring out whether the virtue accrues from the sun or from our clocks. Perhaps someone more familiar with this mysterious phenomenon could figure it out and let me know. Then we could get on with the task of making the whole world more virtuous simply by passing a new law. Although naturally, we'll have to have the scientists and mathematicians also figure out how to maximize the results by determining which latitude we should base it on to include the highest percentage of the population. Clearly, we can't make everyone virtuous simultaneously, but I'm sure we can cover a huge percentage of the world's population. Or, we could make every country responsible for introducing this virtue for their own population independently of other countries and let them choose their own best "virtue saving" time.
Who says that morality can't be legislated?
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orfeo
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Or we could just accept the science that explains that people with body clocks running on a period of less than 24 hours tend to get up early, and people with body clocks running on a period of more than 24 hours tend to get up late, and cut all this 'virtue' stuff out of it.
The same science, by the way, already says that the presence of sunlight causes the body clock to resynchronise. And that your body never fully adjusts to working night shift because of this.
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MrsBeaky
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I've been living here on the equator for almost a year now and have gotten used to the light/ dark ratio. So I was completely thrown yesterday when it got dark much earlier than usual and really cold too...that'll have been the eclipse then!
I also enjoy living in a northern hemisphere country with its seasons and variation but I do wish we would choose one time frame and bloody well stick to it, the chopping and changing drive me a bit crazy....
(Running away from Hell now and back into the Light....)
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Originally posted by W Hyatt:
I recently realized that the world is missing a gigantic opportunity with this. Apparently, it's well known around the globe that it is quite virtuous ...
Joke post surely?
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Welease Woderwick
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Originally posted by MrsBeaky:
I've been living here on the equator for almost a year now and have gotten used to the light/ dark ratio. So I was completely thrown yesterday when it got dark much earlier than usual and really cold too...that'll have been the eclipse then!
I also enjoy living in a northern hemisphere country with its seasons and variation but I do wish we would choose one time frame and bloody well stick to it, the chopping and changing drive me a bit crazy....
(Running away from Hell now and back into the Light....)
We are just above 10° North and wobble between [roughly] an 11 hour day and a 13 hour day - I reckon it is about perfect. That and warm, too.
p.s. to Val, the admin assistant at work who was convinced I'd miss the crisp winter mornings - WRONG!
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W Hyatt
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Originally posted by the giant cheeseburger:
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Originally posted by W Hyatt:
I recently realized that the world is missing a gigantic opportunity with this. Apparently, it's well known around the globe that it is quite virtuous ...
Joke post surely?
Yes, it is, although not so surely. It's hard to anticipate that something like Poe's Law* applies to one's own posts. ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
* Redirects to Wikipedia, but doesn't break the [URL] coding.
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Higgs Bosun
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
I wasn't quite blaming the EU earlier - I was blaming the Westminster government for following the EU. Some European countries don't, but Westminster always does what it can to keep the EU higher on the public unpopularity index than they are themselves.
(Sorry this comment is a bit late. I've been preoccupied)
It is incorrect to say that Westminster has kow-towed to the EU in this area. The change from summer time to winter time in Britain has always been towards the end of October*. Until fairly recently (1990's I think) France changed at the end of September. This made the cross-Channel ferry timetables for October rather complicated, as they work in the local time for departure, and so the times were different from other months. So, in this case the EU changed to agree with the UK.
At that time I once travelled from the south of France on the 'auto-train' overnight on the night the clocks changed. The train just stopped for an hour in a siding. I don't know what they did on the night when the clocks went forward.
*At one time the official rule for the UK was that the reversion from summer time was on the first Sunday on or after 23rd October, which means that occasionally it was not the last Sunday, but the 4th, but it was not always the 4th Sunday.
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snowgoose
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I loathe Daylight Saving Time. I can't drive at night, so putting the clocks back when the days are already short means I have to be back home very early no matter what I am doing. The alternative is to get someone to drive me, but I hate asking for rides.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by MrsBeaky:
I also enjoy living in a northern hemisphere country with its seasons and variation but I do wish we would choose one time frame and bloody well stick to it, the chopping and changing drive me a bit crazy....
Well, we could all just collectively ignore the change of clocks, or politely laugh at the idea, and carry on as usual. The big decision would be whether to stick with GMT all year round or stay with summer time.
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Boogie
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Well, we could all just collectively ignore the change of clocks, or politely laugh at the idea, and carry on as usual. The big decision would be whether to stick with GMT all year round or stay with summer time.
I don't care which - we just need to keep it the SAME!!
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Sarkycow
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I think ken has died.
There are 120 post on this thread, and he hasn't posted since #37... ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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Uncle Pete
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Originally posted by Sarkycow:
I think ken has died.
There are 120 post on this thread, and he hasn't posted since #37...
And why do you perceive this as a problem?
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orfeo
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It was the light that killed him. You're all whinging about how this affects you, but spare a thought for vampires who forget to change their clocks.
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Og, King of Bashan
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All I know is that a few minutes before sunrise, I have a 65 pound red furry galoot with a tongue the size of my hand jump on my head and remind me that it is time for a walk. It takes an hour of walking to make sure she won't destroy everything in her wake for the rest of the day. And I like to get to work around 9. So each minute that sunrise goes past 7 makes it that much harder to pull everything off. Mark me down as one who like a little light early in the morning.
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Organ Builder
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Reading the posts, I'm not sure everyone realizes that the week-end's change was the return to standard time, NOT going on DST.
Don't let that stand in the way of a good hissy fit, though.
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Og, King of Bashan
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Originally posted by Organ Builder:
Reading the posts, I'm not sure everyone realizes that the week-end's change was the return to standard time, NOT going on DST.
I don't think that's just something that happens here- if you Google Daylight Savings Time, you will find a whole lot of articles from last weekend like this one, explaining how daylight saving time started this weekend, and that setting the clocks back an hour was first done in response to a world war.
The only constant seems to be that people know the time shift is completely artificial, and that whatever time they don't personally like must be the evil, government mandated "daylight saving time."
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Uncle Pete
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The southern hemisphere is in DST where it is observed. Think of our shipmates in the Antipodes.
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Og, King of Bashan
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Had the linked article been from Time's Australia edition, he'd get a pass...
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snowgoose
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Originally posted by Organ Builder:
Reading the posts, I'm not sure everyone realizes that the week-end's change was the return to standard time, NOT going on DST.
Don't let that stand in the way of a good hissy fit, though.
Uh...yeah, sorry. It's standard time I can't stand, not DST. I think we should be on summer time all year. The premature darkness has clouded my mind.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by Gwai:
In other words Daylight Savings is worth it because you're too lazy to set your alarm clock. Got it.
No, Daylight Savings is what we go to in the spring, and it's not worth it. People die on account of that time change, which is a bit worse than what you're trying to cope with. Besides, when your kid gets a bit older, you'll be bitching about how going on Daylight Savings Time makes getting him to go to bed at a decent hour in the summer a total pain in the ass because having moved the clocks forward an hour means it's still light out when it's bedtime.
I object to Congress telling me to get up in the dark at the beginning and end of Daylight Savings Time, when it's really unnecessary given the latitude at which I live and how close I am to my job.
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the giant cheeseburger
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Originally posted by PeteC:
The southern hemisphere is in DST where it is observed. Think of our shipmates in the Antipodes.
It's pretty good actually. The sun still officially rises at (today) 6:08am which is the same as it was on the Vernal Equinox a few weeks ago and it starts getting light about an hour before that, with sunset not long before 8pm.
The real issue we have with time zones is the fight to align South Australia with the eastern states on Eastern Standard Time in winter and Eastern Daylight Time in summer instead of being half an hour behind. As well as making it annoying when dealing with national businesses, the Ship's time difference field is limited to three characters so I can only have the correct time during winter.
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orfeo
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Bloody sun is in my eyes when I drive home from work. Grumble.
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Gwai
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Originally posted by RuthW:
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Originally posted by Gwai:
In other words Daylight Savings is worth it because you're too lazy to set your alarm clock. Got it.
No, Daylight Savings is what we go to in the spring, and it's not worth it. People die on account of that time change, which is a bit worse than what you're trying to cope with. Besides, when your kid gets a bit older, you'll be bitching about how going on Daylight Savings Time makes getting him to go to bed at a decent hour in the summer a total pain in the ass because having moved the clocks forward an hour means it's still light out when it's bedtime.
I object to Congress telling me to get up in the dark at the beginning and end of Daylight Savings Time, when it's really unnecessary given the latitude at which I live and how close I am to my job.
No, I have an older kid too. She goes to bed when I tell her to whether or not it's light outside. Also, as you may have noticed, my real objecting is to time-changing bullshit. The details of which way we change are much less important.
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LeRoc
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Welease Woderwick: We are just above 10° North and wobble between [roughly] an 11 hour day and a 13 hour day - I reckon it is about perfect. That and warm, too.
I live less than that from the Equator, but I believe that MrsBeaky is closest to it of all of us. Oh well, that just means she'll be the first to swing off if the Earth decides to spin up a bit ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Originally posted by snowgoose:
It's standard time I can't stand, not DST. I think we should be on summer time all year. The premature darkness has clouded my mind.
snowgoose, I am at about the same latitude as you are and four degrees west in longitude. Your sunrise and sunset are about twenty minutes earlier than mine.
I'm very glad we're back to standard time. I don't like having to take a flashlight with me when I go to pick up the paper at the end of my driveway.
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MrsBeaky
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Originally posted by LeRoc
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I live less than that from the Equator, but I believe that MrsBeaky is closest to it of all of us. Oh well, that just means she'll be the first to swing off if the Earth decides to spin up a bit [Biased]
Aha, I'm not so sure about that...we are 0.5167° N but I am a very grounded person I'll have you know.....!
And the recent time change in the UK has caused havoc with finding the right time to phone my elderly mother, i.e.one that suits us both....Grrr!
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Siegfried
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My prior residence, in Illinois, was 50 miles west of the Eastern Time Zone boundry, in Central Time. That meant that before we'd switch to DST in the spring, the sun would be rising at 5AM. Not pleasant, and so I would look forward to CDT.
I now live in Florida, 50 miles east of the Central Time Zone, in Eastern Time. Before the change back in the fall, the sun is rising after 7:30AM. Also ugh. So, now I look forward to returning to EST. Just goes to show, it can be good/bad either way.
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Daylight Saving Time is horrible. I've jokingly suggested before that Wales should move onto Margam Mean Time (GMT-¼) all year round, to avoid that horrid point in March where some Eurocrat decreed that just as getting up at 6.30 ceased to be an utter trial, he'd move the goal-posts to an effective 5.30, causing those winter blues to come back with a vengeance.
It wasn't so bad when the clocks changed in May instead. And there was no risk of the clocks changing on Easter Day then.
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When we had British Standard Time all year round there was a statistically-proven reduction in road accidents, even in Scotland. Sadly this was not enough to save us from the Guild of Clock Fiddlers, who could not rest until they had clock fiddling reinstated.
My theory is that there is a civil service department specifically employed to remind people of the change, and they have somehow ensured protection for their jobs. Maybe they do something useful as well.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Sighthound:
Maybe they do something useful as well.
Monitor the internet?
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Welease Woderwick
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That's right, blame the poor beleaguered NSA!
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molopata
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May I remind you that the whole of China is in the same time zone? Considering that someone in Western Xinjiang is stuck with the same clock time as Beijing but has to wait an extra 3 hours to see the sun rather puts this whole debate into perspective.
Perhaps it is herein we find the real reason for the periodic Uyghur uprisings.
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Pigwidgeon
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Just remembered... since most of the rest of you mess around with the clock twice a year, and Arizona leaves well enough alone, I have to adjust my Ship clock every spring and fall.
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Welease Woderwick
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Me too!
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What part of Matt. 7:1 don't you understand?
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Twilight
Puddleglum's sister
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Well, it's been five days and my dog is still climbing on my head every morning at 5:00, to make me get up and give her cat his insulin shot, in spite of the fact that I've been daily moving the shot toward six in ten minute increments.
I don't care if we call midnight noon and Jacks beat Aces so long as things stay the same. It's like going through jet lag without the holiday.
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Pigwidgeon
Ship's Owl
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Originally posted by Twilight:
Well, it's been five days and my dog is still climbing on my head every morning at 5:00, to make me get up and give her cat his insulin shot, in spite of the fact that I've been daily moving the shot toward six in ten minute increments.
Your dog has a cat? And she keeps track of his shots?
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Og, King of Bashan
Ship's giant Amorite
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All the dog knows is that if he jumps on Twilight's head in the morning, the cat gets stuck with a needle. Some things are so awesome you don't need an explanation.
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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Og, you just got in the Quotes File.
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Wilfried
Shipmate
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OK, I have not plowed my way through all three pages of this thread, but can I suggest we just move the clocks half an hour one year and be done with it?
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