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Ceremoniar
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Originally posted by dj_ordinaire:
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Originally posted by Ceremoniar:
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Originally posted by malik3000:
It's been half a century or so, but i seem to recall that in the pre-Vatican 2 RC Church, the Last Gospel was used EXCEPT at solemn high masses.
Nope. At Solemn Mass the subdeacon holds the last gospel card for the celebrant.
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Is it possible it was read by the sacred ministers while some sort of postlude was playing over it? Or is malik just misremembering (as we all so often do!)
In practice, the last gospel at a High Mass, be it Sung or Solemn, is not audible to the congregation. Soemtimes there might already be music playing over it, yes.
Since there are now a couple hundred venues in the U.S. and Canada that celebrate the EF Mass every Sunday, the last gospel is being read with increased frequency. Still only a tiny percentage of the total number of Masses, to be sure, but a consistently growing number. ![[Angel]](graemlins/angel.gif)
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Ecclesiastical Flip-flop
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Just a small correction; the genuflection at the last gospel is at the words of, "Et Verbum Caro Factum Est".
I quote from memory, but I am pretty sure that is correct, because I go occasionally to two churches where these words are prominently displayed behind the high altar.
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Forthview
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Sorry ,EFF, to miss out Verbum.
Indeed it should be 'Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis' (And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us )
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Originally posted by Forthview:
Sorry ,EFF, to miss out Verbum.
Indeed it should be 'Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis' (And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us )
Thanks Forthview for completing the sentence (in Latin) in that verse.
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Ceremoniar
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Originally posted by Forthview:
Sorry ,EFF, to miss out Verbum.
Indeed it should be 'Et Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis' (And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us )
True, but the genuflection is intended only for the words ET VERBUM CARO FACTUM EST, which are always capitalized.
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malik3000
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I think it was indeed the Leonine prayers I was thinking of, Forthview.
In my youth I rarely got to see a solemn mass or even a missa cantata, which would have been my preference, budding ecclesiantic that I was even then. But my parents preferred to go to the latest Sunday mass which would have been noon in those days and was always a low mass. (That was in the days of Sunday masses on the hour between 7 or 8AM and noon.)
BTW I seem to recall that the Last Gospel was always silently read.
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Mama Thomas
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I've heard it a few times and have read it a few times during weekday Masses of Xmas. It's one of those things I would like to see come back.
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