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Thread: War on Iraq, redux
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quetzalcoatl
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Originally posted by Ricardus:
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Although some Sunni groups fought against Al Quaeda, and with the Americans - particularly the 'Awakening' groups. Many journalists are reporting that these groups are fed up with Maliki, who they accuse of ignoring them, or worse, and they are therefore not opposing ISIS.
It is worth remembering that Isis have somehow got secular Baathists on their side.
Yes, by all accounts, a strange coalition of ex-army officers, jihadists, some of the Awakening groups, tribal chiefs, and no doubt other Sunni grouplets. It seems to show how much Maliki has alienated the Sunni, when the hope was that he would integrate them into the govt and military. But maybe this has been impossible.
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rolyn
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Many of the objectives thought possible at the time of the 03 intervention have proved impossible . Iraq was supposed to have been liberated from a tyrannical dictator and rebuilt into democratic and vibrant post-WW2 Germany or Japan .
After this failed to happen the truth was kept from the Western public . Now it appears we must play devil's advocate, letting Iran in to tackle the insurgents, as we have lost the will to try and clear up the mess ourselves .
What about the future of this region and it's inhabitants in 20 or 30 years time ? Very few Western observers seem to want to hazard a guess on that one now.
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GCabot
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
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Originally posted by Ricardus:
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Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Although some Sunni groups fought against Al Quaeda, and with the Americans - particularly the 'Awakening' groups. Many journalists are reporting that these groups are fed up with Maliki, who they accuse of ignoring them, or worse, and they are therefore not opposing ISIS.
It is worth remembering that Isis have somehow got secular Baathists on their side.
Yes, by all accounts, a strange coalition of ex-army officers, jihadists, some of the Awakening groups, tribal chiefs, and no doubt other Sunni grouplets. It seems to show how much Maliki has alienated the Sunni, when the hope was that he would integrate them into the govt and military. But maybe this has been impossible.
I seriously doubt that this cooperation will last. There have already been reports of infighting between the two groups. It is only a matter of time before the situation devolves further.
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