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mousethief
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You could probably widen the focus a little bit more; it includes obsession with the familiar ornamentation of childhood memories, as you note - but somehow carrying guns(!) also gets mixed up in there.
I think people like this guy drag guns into everything. I don't think the gun part particularly has to do with Christmas.
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"Jesus = Christmas = holly on the coffee cups"
I think you've nailed it.
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Is it just me, or do others think that the logo on the 'Christless' Starbuck cup actually looks like Our Blessed Lady, Queen of Heaven, Virgin Mother of Our Lord, Co-Redemptrix et al ?
Yes. Or the former "Sun" editor Rebecca Brooks.
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Oo-er.....is it possible that the lovely Rebecca B. might just be our Co-Redemptrix and all that......? ![[Confused]](confused.gif) ![[Help]](graemlins/help.gif)
Back to the whisky bottle, I think. It's been a long day......
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This sounds like a good idea for a Hallmark movie. A fellow goes in a coffee shop, notices a lack of Christmas spirit displayed on their coffee cups, tells the beautiful waitress about it and finds out she is upset about it, too. They convince the store to change policies and it ends with the couple becoming engaged to be married and as they start kissing each other the snow begins to fall.
You've left out an important part of the plot. The girl has been secretly trained by her dying father in combat skills. They have stashed a lockup garage full of heavy duty military hardware they have obtained by mail order. The couple find the coffee shop is a front for a conspiracy of left wingers, Islamic fundamentalists and corrupt multinationals to destroy not just Christmas but America itself. There's a fantastic shoot up involving spectacular visual effects before the couple destroy all the conspirators. Only then do they end up kissing as the snow begins to fall.
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This "War on Christmas!!" nonsense starts earlier every year. If the war is on anything, it is on Advent.
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Originally posted by Enoch:
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Originally posted by Mere Nick:
This sounds like a good idea for a Hallmark movie. A fellow goes in a coffee shop, notices a lack of Christmas spirit displayed on their coffee cups, tells the beautiful waitress about it and finds out she is upset about it, too. They convince the store to change policies and it ends with the couple becoming engaged to be married and as they start kissing each other the snow begins to fall.
You've left out an important part of the plot. The girl has been secretly trained by her dying father in combat skills. They have stashed a lockup garage full of heavy duty military hardware they have obtained by mail order. The couple find the coffee shop is a front for a conspiracy of left wingers, Islamic fundamentalists and corrupt multinationals to destroy not just Christmas but America itself. There's a fantastic shoot up involving spectacular visual effects before the couple destroy all the conspirators. Only then do they end up kissing as the snow begins to fall.
That wouldn't be Hallmark, that would be Spike.
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
So did Jesus plop down in the snow and make snow angels? And did they come alive, like the clay birds in that apocryphal story?
I was trying to think of a joke about snowmen along those lines.
Perhaps our Christmas Village needs a Snow Golem?
Such a thing is possible in Minecraft...
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This "War on Christmas!!" nonsense starts earlier every year. If the war is on anything, it is on Advent.
BOOM! Folks, we have a winner! ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
And here in the States, it's not even Thanksgiving yet....*sigh*
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So this Josh guy...
From his last name, I surmise he has some Jewish background. But he's a Christian, and a pastor at that. Which is absolutely fine.
But I wonder if that makes him feel he has to be more militant and defensive about anything Christian? "I'm a Christian! See? I really, really am! I'm so much for Christ that I make the big, nasty corporation say his name! See, God? See?"
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Originally posted by Enoch:
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Originally posted by Mere Nick:
This sounds like a good idea for a Hallmark movie. A fellow goes in a coffee shop, notices a lack of Christmas spirit displayed on their coffee cups, tells the beautiful waitress about it and finds out she is upset about it, too. They convince the store to change policies and it ends with the couple becoming engaged to be married and as they start kissing each other the snow begins to fall.
You've left out an important part of the plot. The girl has been secretly trained by her dying father in combat skills. They have stashed a lockup garage full of heavy duty military hardware they have obtained by mail order. The couple find the coffee shop is a front for a conspiracy of left wingers, Islamic fundamentalists and corrupt multinationals to destroy not just Christmas but America itself. There's a fantastic shoot up involving spectacular visual effects before the couple destroy all the conspirators. Only then do they end up kissing as the snow begins to fall.
Ah, excellent! If, while they are kissing in the new falling snow, would it strain credulity for the camera to be slowly pulled back and reveal a few zombies walking down the street with a couple of them eating a guy dressed as Santa?
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Originally posted by Mere Nick:
If, while they are kissing in the new falling snow, would it strain credulity for the camera to be slowly pulled back and reveal a few zombies walking down the street with a couple of them eating a guy dressed as Santa?
Kinda. Everything else in the movie falls under Poe's Law.
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Enoch:
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Originally posted by Mere Nick:
This sounds like a good idea for a Hallmark movie. A fellow goes in a coffee shop, notices a lack of Christmas spirit displayed on their coffee cups, tells the beautiful waitress about it and finds out she is upset about it, too. They convince the store to change policies and it ends with the couple becoming engaged to be married and as they start kissing each other the snow begins to fall.
You've left out an important part of the plot. The girl has been secretly trained by her dying father in combat skills. They have stashed a lockup garage full of heavy duty military hardware they have obtained by mail order. The couple find the coffee shop is a front for a conspiracy of left wingers, Islamic fundamentalists and corrupt multinationals to destroy not just Christmas but America itself. There's a fantastic shoot up involving spectacular visual effects before the couple destroy all the conspirators. Only then do they end up kissing as the snow begins to fall.
That wouldn't be Hallmark, that would be Spike.
That would be Spike and Hallmark having a love child.
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
So this Josh guy...
From his last name, I surmise he has some Jewish background. But he's a Christian, and a pastor at that. Which is absolutely fine.
But I wonder if that makes him feel he has to be more militant and defensive about anything Christian? "I'm a Christian! See? I really, really am! I'm so much for Christ that I make the big, nasty corporation say his name! See, God? See?"
He's so Christian in fact that he drinks an Islamic drink. He must be strong in the faith to drink that which has been sacrificed to idolatorous Islam. But, has he no thought for the weaker brethren?
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Originally posted by mousethief:
After some thought I think this doesn't explain enough. Why is taking pine boughs off a coffee cup equivalent to taking Christ out of Christmas? Some explanation of this mindset should be attempted.
If you click on the 'as we reported earlier' link in Mr Feuerstein's post*, his reasoning is explained with admirable cogency.
One of his mates wrote to Starbucks to ask why the change, and the marketing department gave a response that included the words 'more open'.
Open = tolerant = political correctness = atheist Muslim Marxists taking away our guns QED.
* I do recommend this - the hilarity of the post is unbelievable.
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Originally posted by Mere Nick:
This sounds like a good idea for a Hallmark movie. A fellow goes in a coffee shop, notices a lack of Christmas spirit displayed on their coffee cups, tells the beautiful waitress about it and finds out she is upset about it, too. They convince the store to change policies and it ends with the couple becoming engaged to be married and as they start kissing each other the snow begins to fall.
If this Josh character could do that, there might be some merit in his activities. I'd even put up with him filming it. He may however fall under suspicion of becoming a "librul" by doing so.
As things stand though he seems to be doing a great job spreading the word for atheism.
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I don't really feel as if these stories are spread for any other reason, at this point, than to re-emphasize the narrow, small-mindedness of the Josh-y element of society. Certainly, now, this is not news of any originality or quality (not that the same couldn't be said of most news coverage, but that is a different thread). When the reaction of those of us who object to Josh-y views echo Josh's sentiments about an alleged annual assault on a Christian holiday, the circle has come fully round, and it's time to ignore such shouts as the misinformed, myopic Me-ism that it is.
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(The Riv! Good to see you! I hope that you are keeping well.)
Good point about paying mind (or not) to the fringies and not getting entangled in the old, old cultural angst.
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It's always good to be a bit wary about joining in a pile-on, especially when the piled upon is an easy target like some obscure blog.
However(and yes, this could be read as apologia for my own involvement here), I think the blog in question was pretty symptomatic of the whole "There's a war on Christmas" mentality, which is a legitimate subject of criticism, given what a prominent aspect it is of holiday culture. It's not as if the people who complain about that incessantly are just going about minding their own business, they are clearly trying to put the issue front and centre. And are having a bit of success, judging by media attention.
The fact that the blogger thinks green and red hollies are a meaningful religious symbol might tell us something about how messed up a lot of the WOC crowd are. But I'd be interested to know how many of them would be as incredulous as we are at the shallowness of the blogger's critique.
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Meanwhile, in related news, a British Conservative MP reportedly said (source):
“What is Christmas about?” he said. “It’s CHRIST-Mass.”
“This is utter madness. Who was the idiot who thought this up? He should be sacked!”
This latest outburst from the Outraged by Political Correctness Brigade follows (as mousethief said in the OP) a reported decision to replace "snowmen, stars, and other symbols" with a plain red design on coffee cups.
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Did anyone organise the Sweepstake for the first use of the "political correctness gone mad" phrase?
It is telling that Starbucks have made a commercial (is anyone under any illusion that the bottom line figures heavily?) decision to not go into the over-the-top smaltz of the months running up to Christmas, their defence that they provide a place of calm to escape the pressures of the season says loads about how over board the rest of the High Street is.
Come off it people, Starbucks is a place to take a wee break from the stresses induced by the commercial greed of the season. Starbucks? Shouldn't the churches be providing that place of refuge?
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Starbucks is a place to take a wee break from the stresses induced by the commercial greed of the season. Starbucks? Shouldn't the churches be providing that place of refuge?
Might be interesting to compare the number of people in church on any given Sunday with the number of customers at the Starbucks just down the street.
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What's Christian about hanging fetishes on a tree?
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Thanks, Lyda*Rose!
I think, perhaps, that we're missing the whole point, here. Starbucks is simply bypassing Christmas to get to the really good and meaningful stuff: Easter. Like all comprehensive Christmas traditions, these plain, Blood-of-the-Lamb red cups merely point to the world's salvation through the full and final sacrifice of Jesus. Starbucks isn't fighting against Christians, it's actually leading their charge. It's not "Gloria in excelsis," but "Christus vincit!" Bless you, Starbucks, bless you!
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I've not heard of Josh before, so I thought it was a send-up until I watched his video and realised that it probably wasn't.
The thing that struck me most was that as well as wearing his Jesus tee shirt he carried his GUN! Peace on earth, Josh, and all that crap ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
Starbucks is a place to take a wee break from the stresses induced by the commercial greed of the season. Starbucks? Shouldn't the churches be providing that place of refuge?
Might be interesting to compare the number of people in church on any given Sunday with the number of customers at the Starbucks just down the street.
some of ours go to have coffee before mass
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Originally posted by Alwyn:
Meanwhile, in related news, a British Conservative MP reportedly said (source):
“What is Christmas about?” he said. “It’s CHRIST-Mass.”
“This is utter madness. Who was the idiot who thought this up? He should be sacked!”
Bu-bu-bu ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
I was just beginning to think that a.) Stetson is right and b.) how splendid it is to be British where the religious nutcases are lower-profile, and then I read that article.
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What's not to like about them? A nice, bright red - the correct liturgical colour for Kingdom Season - with a picture of the Blessed Mother of Our Lord, to remind us of the Incarnation.
Full marks to Starbucks, IMHO (as long as they alter the colour to purple or blue from Advent Sunday).
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
What's not to like about them? A nice, bright red - the correct liturgical colour for Kingdom Season - with a picture of the Blessed Mother of Our Lord, to remind us of the Incarnation.
The Mother of Our Lord is a Siren?
(Apparently a single tail is a mermaid, a double tail is a siren.)
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Pigwidgeon: The Mother of Our Lord is a Siren?
Some Afro-American religious expressions identify her with a siren.
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My son spent a year in Palestine, Ramallah, to be precise. It actually snowed twice while he was there so, yes, it could be theoretically possible that as a boy Jesus may have had the chance to build a snowman, though there is no record of it, not even in the Gospel of Thomas.
Just today Starbucks announced that it was contributing $350,000 to Lutheran World Relief for the purpose of helping to develop sustainable farming communities in the coffee and cocoa growing regions. Here is the website for their foundation which explains their charitable giving program
http://www.starbucks.com/responsibility/community/starbucks-foundation
Of particular note to me, since I am a veteran having served in the United States Air Force is their commitment to hiring up to 10,000 veterans in the next few years.
If people want Merry Christmas on their cups they can put it on themselves, but, in my book, I think Starbucks is honoring the Christmas spirit with their charitable giving.
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Pigwidgeon: The Mother of Our Lord is a Siren?
Some Afro-American religious expressions identify her with a siren.
Yes! Google Yemaya and Saint together and look at the images. But Oshun who is not a mermaid is more commonly identified with our lady of charity.
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I rarely go to Starbucks but in trying to put myself in the place of a local Starbucks store owner it seems the cups are a great idea. They are red and green. Those are generally accepted as Christmas colors. That will work during the Christmas season. What do I do with left over cups after Christmas? Use them. What's wrong with a red and green cup? Having lots of Christmasy decorations on a cup in the middle of January might send the message to folks that the business is hurting.
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Ikkyu: But Oshun who is not a mermaid is more commonly identified with our lady of charity.
It varies a bit from place to place. Where I live in Brazil, the siren Yemaya is identified with Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception, and Oshun with Our Lady of Mount Carmel.
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Well, wot I sed anyhoo.....
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Originally posted by Ricardus:
I WANT TO BE A BUDDHIST AND LIVE IN ICELAND
By your command:
Buddhism in Iceland (Wikipedia).
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Originally posted by mousethief:
My lover meets me among the cedars,
Yea among the trees of Lebanon.
For lo, he comes prepared to delight me
With hanging balls he meets me there
--Second Song of Solomon 1:1-2
This is the second time in a week that I've spewed my coffee all over my keyboard! And it sounded so 'authentic' that I did a double-take on the last line.
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Hmmm...Protestant Bibles don't have 2nd Song of Solomon. If they did, my childhood fundie church would've had some interesting sermons...
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A protest that involves the outraged giving money to the company they hate?
Anyone else suspect this is manufactured outrage so everyone can play another round of 'let's laugh at the idiot Christians?'
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Starbucks has certainly gotten more free publicity from this than they could possibly have dreamed. Great marketing strategy.
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Originally posted by saysay:
Anyone else suspect this is manufactured outrage so everyone can play another round of 'let's laugh at the idiot Christians?'
Poe's law is always in play in these sorts of situations, but it's no more idiotic than any of the rest of the alleged "War on Christmas". They can't all be fakes.
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mousethief
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Originally posted by saysay:
Anyone else suspect this is manufactured outrage so everyone can play another round of 'let's laugh at the idiot Christians?'
Sorry, my "believe stupid conspiracy theories" module is at the shop.
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mr cheesy
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Originally posted by Gramps49:
My son spent a year in Palestine, Ramallah, to be precise. It actually snowed twice while he was there so, yes, it could be theoretically possible that as a boy Jesus may have had the chance to build a snowman, though there is no record of it, not even in the Gospel of Thomas.
Snow isn't unusual in parts of the Southern med - but enough snow to make a significant covering is a 20-50 year event.
But this is all irrelevant, of course. Snow at Christmas is a romantic fantasy invented by Europeans. And popularised by Dickens.
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
Starbucks has certainly gotten more free publicity from this than they could possibly have dreamed. Great marketing strategy.
It's also brought their tax avoision schemes into focus, which isn't so good for them.
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mr cheesy
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# 3330
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Originally posted by saysay:
A protest that involves the outraged giving money to the company they hate?
Wait.. what?
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Anyone else suspect this is manufactured outrage so everyone can play another round of 'let's laugh at the idiot Christians?'
How are you thinking this is happening? Are you saying some journalist at the New Yorker notices something on his starbucks cup and whips up his own story which explodes onto social media?
It can happen (cake anyone?).. but it does require willing acquiescence of the outraged. So for this to become a story, it actually needs someone to make outraged statements about it.
If a journalist kept phoning up religious leaders and politicians for comment and they just replied "huh, that's not a story, stop wasting my time", he'd soon stop. Like isn't long enough to force a story that nobody is biting on.
Unless you are the Daily Mail, of course.
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Alan Cresswell
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If you were with the Daily Mail you wouldn't bother phoning anyone. You'd just write the story and not worry about whether there's any truth in it.
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Baptist Trainfan
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Originally posted by georgiaboy:
Off to find a coffee-proof keyboard (if such exists?)
They do (other models are available).
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The Phantom Flan Flinger
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
So this Josh guy...
From his last name, I surmise he has some Jewish background. But he's a Christian, and a pastor at that. Which is absolutely fine.
But I wonder if that makes him feel he has to be more militant and defensive about anything Christian? "I'm a Christian! See? I really, really am! I'm so much for Christ that I make the big, nasty corporation say his name! See, God? See?"
Or he could just be a prat.
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Golden Key
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That, too.
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