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Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

Held earlier this evening at Notre Dame de Paris - simple, moving, and beautifully 'done'. Go to YouTube and enter 'Notre Dame de Paris Messe de 15 Novembre'.

The service proper begins at about 20 minutes in - note that the south column of the chancel arch is lit up in red, white, and blue (and is duly censed by Cardinal Vingt-Trois.......)!

Superb music - if anyone watching recognises the Mass setting, do tell. Under the circumstances, I would expect it to be by a French composer.

Vive la France! Vive la Republique!

I.

Posted by Lothlorien (# 4927) on :

Not Mass at Notre Dame, but a service was held down here in Sydney attended by the French Ambasador. It was held in St Andrews Anglican Cathedral and was called a service of sorrow and prayer for Paris.

It was well attended with State Governor, the Ambassador, senior police and other notables and by the general public.

[ 15. November 2015, 20:31: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

Posted by Utrecht Catholic (# 14285) on :

I watched too the mass from the Notre Dame,and I have to confess that I was deeply moved by the liturgy and the lovely music, and particularly the De Profundis,psalm 130.
The music,exceedingly well carried out,was plainsong.It was very interesting to notice that the organ improvisation during the offertory,was based on the French National Anthem, Allons enfants de la Patrie.
I do hope that this mass,has given some comfort to the people who have lost children, family members and friends.

Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

Oooer..... [Eek!]

I don't seem to be able to find that link via YouTube (perhaps IS has taken control of the internet [Help]

), so if anyone else can link to the service, please do....!

I hadn't spotted the musical reference to La Marseillaise - not exactly the most pacific of national anthems.... [Devil]

Posted by FCB (# 1495) on :

Try this.

Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

Blessings, FCB! That was indeed the KTO recording I referred to......

Was the organist M. Latry, I wonder?

I.

Posted by georgiaboy (# 11294) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:

Superb music - if anyone watching recognises the Mass setting, do tell. Under the circumstances, I would expect it to be by a French composer.

Vive la France! Vive la Republique!

I.

Kyrie & Agnus Dei are from Maurice Duruflé's Requiem. Didn't recognize the other items. Did you notice some of the congo waving le tricoluer at the climax of the offertory improvisation?!

Posted by Triple Tiara (# 9556) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
note that the south column of the chancel arch is lit up in red, white, and blue (and is duly censed by Cardinal Vingt-Trois.......)!

I suspect he was censing the image of Notre Dame de Paris rather than the column

Posted by Galloping Granny (# 13814) on :

Literally awesome – and totally foreign country for this suburban Presbyterian.
Wish I wasn't making crab apple jelly (it had to be done) as I'd have liked to try and follow the Cardinal Archbishop's homily.
Yes, I spotted the waving tricouleurs. Interested to see the familiar passing of the peace – with the odd double kiss.
As for the assembled clergy – I guessed that the gentleman in gold-embroidered red and onion-dome hat was Orthodox, but further back was one in a gold-ish garment (sorry!) with a diagonal sash, and he or another had a black pill-boxy hat – can anyone identify who they might represent?

GG

Posted by Baptist Trainfan (# 15128) on :

All I know about the Mass was what I saw on the BBC News.

But it did strike me as strange that France - a country which has often prided itself on its secularism - should choose to remember this atrocity with a religious service. Did anyone else have that feeling?

Posted by seasick (# 48) on :

I only saw the bit on BBC news (the end of the Kyrie leading into the Gloria). I assumed it was a Requiem because of the purple vestments and the Durufle kyrie but then they intoned the gloria... can anyone shed light on what liturgy was actually being offered?

Posted by The Scrumpmeister (# 5638) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Galloping Granny:
As for the assembled clergy – I guessed that the gentleman in gold-embroidered red and onion-dome hat was Orthodox, but further back was one in a gold-ish garment (sorry!) with a diagonal sash, and he or another had a black pill-boxy hat – can anyone identify who they might represent?

They are a bishop and deacon, respectively. I suspect that they're Catholic, belonging to the Byzantine tradition.

Posted by The Scrumpmeister (# 5638) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
All I know about the Mass was what I saw on the BBC News.

But it did strike me as strange that France - a country which has often prided itself on its secularism - should choose to remember this atrocity with a religious service. Did anyone else have that feeling?

I think that widespread secularism is still a fairly new phenomenon in Western Europe. My view is that it hasn't been around long enough yet to have established ways of meeting the needs that faith has. In this void, people turn to what they know.

I dislike many of the facets of tribal religion but I cannot help but confess that it does meet a need when communal or national expression of grief, celebration, &c is required.

Posted by Forthview (# 12376) on :

Mass is celebrated every Sunday at 18.30,usually by the Cardinal Archbishop, and broadcast on KTO.
The Mass was that of the day,with the gospel of the day,but celebrated in purple vestments.

Posted by Bishops Finger (# 5430) on :

I guess Triple Tiara is right about the Cardinal censing the image of ND de P, but it did look (from a distance) as though he were censing the column!

The OT Reading and the Epistle were the same as we had at Our Place yesterday, but I think the Gospel (we had Mark 13 1-8, as per the C of E Lectionary) was Mark 13 24-27 or thereabouts.

I.

Posted by bib (# 13074) on :

Thank you so much for posting this service. Despite struggling with school French from some years ago, I was still able to follow the service and understand a good deal of what the cardinal said. I found the whole service deeply moving and was stunned by the organ voluntary based on the Marseillaise.

Posted by The Scrumpmeister (# 5638) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
I guess Triple Tiara is right about the Cardinal censing the image of ND de P...

I suspect so. The local custom seems to be to show reverence to the image. At the end, the clergy also gather to face her for the Salve.

Posted by Stephen (# 40) on :

I noticed they seemed to face east for the Kyrie.....

Posted by Forthview (# 12376) on :

The famous statue, or at least well known statue of Notre Dame de Paris is a the foot of the column in the direction of which the cardinal offered incense. At the end of the Mass the celebrant will intone the Salve Regina or other Marian antiphon of the season.

I didn't hear the Gospel but the cardinal in his sermon made frequent reference to the Gospel of the Day :Mark 13,24-32.

The Mass of the 33rd Sunday in Ordinary Time was celebrated, but adapted for the circumstance and the Great Bell of the cathedral was tolled before the beginning of the Mass.

Posted by dj_ordinaire (# 4643) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Stephen:
I noticed they seemed to face east for the Kyrie.....

Quite apart from the serious nature of how we present ourselves before God while dealing with these issues, might I also add how good it is to see you again Stephen. Many years.

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