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Thread: AS: I do not hope to turn again - Lent 2008
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Ultracrepidarian
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Blessèd sister, holy mother, spirit of the fountain, spirit of the garden,
Suffer us not to mock ourselves with falsehood
Teach us to care and not to care
Teach us to sit still
Even among these rocks,
Our peace in His will
And even among these rocks
Sister, mother
And spirit of the river, spirit of the sea,
Suffer me not to be separated
And let my cry come unto Thee.
TS Eliot - Ash Wednesday
For us users of the Gregorian calendar, today is Shrove Tuesday; above the sweet smell of the pancakes, my mind is turning towards Lent.
I'd like to make the effort to do something and/or renounce something in Lent this year, but I'm not sure what. At the moment, my plan is to get up early each morning and spend some time in prayer, reflection and reading. I'm also going to consciously reduce my consumption - not necessarily of food, but particularly of paper and other things that I waste without thinking.
I've started this thread because I know that I'm not going to manage any of this without support. Here, we can discuss what we're doing (or not doing) and pray for each other that God will give us the strength to hold to our commitments.
So, if you're marking Lent with some change to your life, what is it?
Do you use a set of daily Lenten reflections?
Is there a book/author that you're reading through Lent? I'm considering making Bonhoeffer and/or Merton part of my morning prayer time.
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Eliot's Ash Wednesday is a deep poem. I think I might read that through Lent.
I'd like to be more mindful about my Lenten discipline this year. It has become routine for me to give up alcohol and dessert and this is starting to look more like a diet plan than a spiritual discipline. This year, instead, I am going to try to attend mass at least one weekday (possibly Wednesday) in addition to Sunday, and to resume fasting before mass (a practice which I dropped a few years ago when I stopped going to church for a few months, and didn't resume when I returned to church).
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I'm going to give up posting on the Ship (except Via Media and All Saints), and put that time into other, worthy efforts.
I'm going to try to go to noonday prayer at the Cathedral every day that I'm in the office downtown.
I'm going to try to be more intentional in my prayer life, and in the other things that I do.
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I'm going to be a more regular attender at the Maori Language Eucharist at the Cathedral, attend a theological discussion group and recycle my kitchen waste using the bokashi method (I bought the bits and pieces today).
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Originally posted by Huia:
using the bokashi method
Could you say more about this (without rerailing the thread), or perhaps provide a link? It sounds interesting.
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Campbellite, I've found the site for the system I'm using. Our local council sells this as an eco-friendly waste reduction method.
Bokashi NZ Ltd
(I hope it works - it did on the UBB practice thread).
Huia - Yay! learned a new skill.
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Thank you for the T. S. Eliot quote. He is my favorite poet. So good to see that today.
For some reason, I am having a hard time settling into how I want to observe Lent this year. I want to nurture my spirituality, and I think I will be journaling and reading a book - maybe one by Nouwen, because I have several books by him waiting to be read. I think I also want to look for some new volunteer work, and I'm in the process of investigating that. I'm trying to make healthier choices in various ways - food, exercise, and so forth - and want to make a renewed commitment to it all during Lent. Those are some of my thoughts at the moment.
My caring thoughts and prayers go out to all at this season of Lent - may it be a time of deepening in faith and drawing nearer to God.
Blessings,
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Originally posted by claudine:
This year…I am going to try to attend mass at least one weekday (possibly Wednesday) in addition to Sunday, and to resume fasting before mass…
I don't know all of my schedule for this week now that the Super Bowl is over (I have been a subcontractor to the NFL for the last two weeks) but I plan to go to 6.15 AM mass tomorrow and see if I can do that every week on Wednesday or Thursday. Stage work rarely starts before 8 and if I teach I don't have to leave the house until 7.30.
I shall give up beer and frivolous internet sites other than the Ship for Lent. I will make fresh fruit a part of dinner instead of dessert. I may start praying the rosary daily again as I did in the year 2000 when I became RC (along with my sister). I also vow to join the YMCA and swim at least twice a week, i.e. giving up not exercising. Perhaps I can give up elevators too, at least when stairs are readily accessible. My doctor said that she wants me to lose 3 stone! I haven't been below 14 stone in the last 20 years that I can remember…
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AdamPater
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Lentisabsurdabstinenceisridiculousdon'tyouknowyou'reallrejecting the graceofTheLordoursaviourbecauseyouaretrustinginworks
notgraceforsalvationit'sjustthesameasifyouwereflogging
yourselvesandnotjusteachotherbeforebedtimedon'tyouknow
thatJesussavedyoubyfaithandIknowthatandyoudon't
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AdamPater
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I'm sorry, I shouldn't have posted that. I repent in dust and ashes. Tomorrow.
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Being new to actually doing something for lent, rather than saying I'm going to give up chocolate and then forgetting, I'm going to use the ship's ideas (on the main page) for some things I can do. I like the idea of picking a fresh thing to do every day - there really isn't anything I could "give up" or "improve on" for lent without making it like a diet program or an exercise regimen, and I don't want it to be that - I want some reflection time.
I'm also aware that some of the things listed will challenge me to act outside of my normal comfort zones - my cubicle at work and my living room at home. Generally I'm fine at thinking beyond those rooms, but not very good at venturing beyond them. I look forward to trying.
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On the now closed Fasting thread, Tiffer wrote:
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I seem caught between a rock and a hard place. I am in a community of sorts (theological college) for the first time and probably the last time during the whole of Lent (because Easter is early this year). As such I thought it would be a good oppurtunity to really take Lent seriously and go for it proper like. I don't just mean giving one or two things up, which can be very helpful and difficult of course, I rather mean abstaining from meat alcohol and dairy products, and often only eating one meal in the day, with refreshment Sundays (or not), and hospitality exceptions, such as the rule of Benedict contains.
To my surprise I can't really find anyone else who wants to do this also, in neither Anglican theological college in Cambridge. This is probably because I don't want to ask around too much for fear that I will look like I am boasting or judging, when I just feel I need to do this and would desperately like some support from others insane enough to do it also.
Then I thought of this old haunt - and thought that the number of people here who know me IRL is small (and they usually know there is not much to boast about!) and yet I could maybe find other people doing a similar thing. I would really appreciate anyone replying to this or sending me a PM, as I am actually quite worried about what tomorrow will bring, as I do drink and eat rather more and pray rather less than I should. Thanks for reading my self-indulgent post...
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Mm. Yes, I am thinking of giving up meat for Lent as an exercise in self-discipline and living simply. (Excepting Sundays and if I get invited out)
Dunno dude, my motivation is not real high I have to confess, but I deffo would like to keep Ash Wed and Good Fri. In principle I think it is a good thing not to be at the mercy of one's passions (to use quaint language); appetite for food - of a quantity and quality far surpassing what is required for life - being one of them.
Good luck, ay.
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I many years now I have tried to do a daylight fast during Lent, so this means getting up early for breakfast (or missing it) and then not having anything except water until the evening. However I am pretty unsatisfied with this; there are several reasons:
It is really hard, and I normally end up cheating at some point, or putting sugar in my water to stop me falling asleep at work etc etc.
It makes me hugely grumpy, and those around me inevitably suffer.
I often end up just having 2 suppers which does not seem in keeping with the spirit of a fast.
It can be hard to do this without other people noticing, and then you get into Matt6:16-18 territory.
So I am wondering if I can do it differently this year. I have considered giving up meat. I dunno - I would welcome suggestions too.
BTW I am surprised that it is hard to find people fasting in an anglican theological college, especially in Cambridge, especially at Westcott.
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Thanks for the replies, and to Spike for showing me this thread. Well I can only surmise about Westcott I am afraid, as I haven't had the chance to bring up the subject with any of my friends there - if there are any Westcotians reading this do let me know - but I know they continue to have their bar open and I have been to meetings there last lent in which champagne flowed (you know who you are!) so my guess is they aren't of one mind. Although they do do away with cooked breakfast on Tuesdays as far as I know.
It slightly annoys me that my college observes exam period (a number of weeks with no parties or planned gatherings in college and quiet in college) but doesn't observe lent in the same way. Perhaps I should have gone to Mirfield...
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I am trying to give up being uncharitable.....
(Yes I know, I know, I really should have done it long before now, but ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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Pearl B4 Swine
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Local high schools are having athletic events on Wednesday evening (Ash Wed.), which will take three singers out of my already-small choir. Nothing they can do about it - they are in the play-offs, for county championship.
This is only the second Ash Wednesday we will have had Imposition of Ashes. The United Church of Christ has had this service in their Book of Services for years, but not many use it. The church will not be crowded.
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Originally posted by Tiffer:
Thanks for the replies, and to Spike for showing me this thread. Well I can only surmise about Westcott I am afraid, as I haven't had the chance to bring up the subject with any of my friends there - if there are any Westcotians reading this do let me know - but I know they continue to have their bar open and I have been to meetings there last lent in which champagne flowed (you know who you are!) so my guess is they aren't of one mind. Although they do do away with cooked breakfast on Tuesdays as far as I know.
Certainly, there will be people at a certain church known to us who fast, though the people whose fasts I knew about tend to have left Cambridge these days. But it does tend be something one doesn't nose around that much to avoid looking too pious. I'm still not quite sure what to do especially given my health of late. I was contemplating not having breakfast, but after this morning when I felt very peculiar cycling to work and a mouthful of food helped I'm not sure about that.
Actually the weirdest thing I've got is starting Lent with a cooked breakfast because tomorrow is a first Wednesday and so a Prayer Breakfast and not going because it's Ash Wednesday seemes too peculiar but it's not really possible to avoid eating there especially as the majority of people are evangelicals/non-anglicans so I suspect Lent doesn't feature that highly in their approach. Certainly in December we sang a Christmas carol in the first week of Advent which I found hard.
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Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
My doctor said that she wants me to lose 3 stone! I haven't been below 14 stone in the last 20 years that I can remember…
Sir K:
You should switch to an American doctor. Or if you have an American doctor who is using "stone" as a form of measurement, let me know, and I'll send around the Pretension Police to stop him dropping Britishisms all the damned time.
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My plans are to eat less and pray more.
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Originally posted by Carys:
I was contemplating not having breakfast, but after this morning when I felt very peculiar cycling to work and a mouthful of food helped I'm not sure about that.
Exercise on an empty stomach (which is essentially what you did), is not good for you. You could have had a nasty accident. Fasting is fine, but risking life and limb is not.
Eat breakfast, especially if you're going to be doing physical exercise.
Also, if fasting makes you evil-tempered, for the love of the sweet Baby Jesus, eat something. Your family and colleagues shouldn't be suffering for your Lenten discipline.
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Carys
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Originally posted by rosamundi:
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Originally posted by Carys:
I was contemplating not having breakfast, but after this morning when I felt very peculiar cycling to work and a mouthful of food helped I'm not sure about that.
Exercise on an empty stomach (which is essentially what you did), is not good for you. You could have had a nasty accident. Fasting is fine, but risking life and limb is not.
Eat breakfast, especially if you're going to be doing physical exercise.
As an undergrad I was careful that the day I fasted was a Thursday which was the one day I didn't do swimming or waterpolo as I didn't think that would be a good combination. The difficult thing is I'm going to try and be vegan but I can't work out what I can have for breakfast.
I also used to be able to cycle a mile or so without breakfast as I cycled to morning prayer and ate after that.
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Also, if fasting makes you evil-tempered, for the love of the sweet Baby Jesus, eat something. Your family and colleagues shouldn't be suffering for your Lenten discipline.
That's an interesting one -- to me, part of fasting is about realising the impact of physical things (eg hunger) on our mental state, so being aware that I tend to be more irritable when hungry, fasting can be about controlling that irritability. Though having said that, I don't get irritable in the same way when I'm fasting as when I'm just hungry.
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Carys,
Muesli mixed with fruit juice, preferably apple, and grated apple is honestly edible, and vegan.
Also peanut butter and banana sandwiches could be vegan and solidly filling for breakfast - particularly nice with toast, with the peanut butter melting into the warm bread. ![[Two face]](graemlins/scot_twoface.gif)
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Janine
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Originally posted by AdamPater:
Lentisabsurdabstinenceisridiculousdon'tyouknowyou'reallrejecting the graceofTheLordoursaviourbecauseyouaretrustinginworks
notgraceforsalvationit'sjustthesameasifyouwereflogging
yourselvesandnotjusteachotherbeforebedtimedon'tyouknow
thatJesussavedyoubyfaithandIknowthatandyoudon't
but I have this great video for sale. PM me for details.
Yeah. I'm the spokesmodel on the video. Amen.
*heh*
What do you do when it happens that you are already in a mode of living that other people consider hyper-sacrificial and almost martyr-like? I guess a basic old-fashioned fast is all I have left... I'm already rising at 4:30 a.m. 5 days a week and praying and doing worship gatherings and Bible study gatherings about 4 hours a week.
I'm still trying to come up with something I can actually do, in addition to what I already do, that will offer me a devotional/spiritual benefit.
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re:vegan breakfast: some soymilks are excellent on vegan breakfast cereals. I can't do the juice or water on cereal, it's just too ewww...
I always have oats with flax and maple syrup, sometimesalso a sliced upapple and a handfull of walnuts for staying power.
Vegan toast/bagels etc with peanut butter is also excellent.
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My Household has the "Fucking and "Fucking" Box"
I'm giving up swearing, My Household is giving up women!
If we break our vows, we have to put money in the box!"
It's gonna be quite hard!
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AdamPater
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Originally posted by Janine:
What do you do when it happens that you are already in a mode of living that other people consider hyper-sacrificial and almost martyr-like? I guess a basic old-fashioned fast is all I have left... I'm already rising at 4:30 a.m. 5 days a week and praying and doing worship gatherings and Bible study gatherings about 4 hours a week.
Discipline is as discipline does. Perhaps you could try an enforced sleep-in, and abstinence from corporate worship?
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Pick some bad spiritual habit and plan, with the grace of God, to try abstaining from it. I'm thinking about abstaining from improper guilt, but don't know if it's doable....
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My intention for this Lent is to:
--Not walk past or lie to anyone begging on the street (I hate saying "no", but I get overwhelmed by all the need I see around me in the urban Bay Area. I've slipped into the comforting but ultimately dishonest habit of "Sorry, I'm not carrying any money right now", and I think I should move past it.)
--Read a short inspirational something every night before bed. I have a book of Frederick Buechner's sermons to start off with.
Hope I don't fizzle out like last year...
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Pick some bad spiritual habit and plan, with the grace of God, to try abstaining from it. I'm thinking about abstaining from improper guilt, but don't know if it's doable....
Most of my guilt is entirely appropriate.
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Infinite_monkey, even Jesus ran away to the hills for some relief from the massive neediness around him. Even He needed recharging. Don't feel bad that you're not always "up" and ready to give give give.
Would it be hard to take the money you feel led to put into charity, divide it up, slip each portion into a sealed envelope, and give until it runs out ? After that, "I have no money to give" would not be a lie -- you would have set aside what your good stewardship of your God-given resources allowed, and after that is gone you have no more to give.
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Originally posted by Max.:
... My Household is giving up women!
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It's gonna be quite hard!
Max
<Snigger/>
I am giving up the ship for Lent, so i will see y'all at Easter.
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I'm giving up alcohol and snacks
and going to finish reading Benedict XVI's book 'Jesus of Nazareth' that I started in Advent and only got halfway through ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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I was wondering about observing Lent last night and toying with a bunch of ideas that just didn't seem satisfying.
Then this morning my sister came home from her lecture (I know, I shouldn't still have been at home, but that's beside the point) and we ended up playing music for about an hour. I'm pretty sure my flute's numb with the shock of seeing daylight! So we have taken up making music daily for lent.
I'm sure it would upset Carys that what we mostly played was Christmas carols but beggars can't be choosers and those were the only things we had scored for both of us. O Little Town of Bethlehem sounded quite good with both of us playing harmony lines, even if I do say so myself!
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I don't know if this counts as giving up or taking up, but I'm trying to stop putting off doing things (posted on the Styx thread, then realised this one existed ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ). I have a bad habit of leaving things till the last minute where possible, or putting off doing them because I'd sooner be doing something more fun. With any luck, a month and a bit of deliberately aiming not to do that will chip some of that habit away...
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To The Pain, flute sounds beautiful! What does your sister play?
Janine, I don't agree with the "I have no money to give" after the envelopes have run out. The obvious implication is going to be "I have no money on me" which isn't true (unless you really are carrying no other money, in which case the envelope ruse is not necessary). Better to simply say, "No."
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Originally posted by Max.:
My Household has the "Fucking and "Fucking" Box"
I'm giving up swearing, My Household is giving up women!
If we break our vows, we have to put money in the box!
Are ppl honest enough with themselves to put the cash in when they break 'em lol? Or, will it be a case of who can put in the most (thus demonstrating how much sex they had) ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
How is the total going, Max?
I'd be the sort to put in an advance payment lol ("Yer, that's for half a dozen 'Fuck that's and a night of unbridled passion")
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infinite_monkey
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Originally posted by Janine:
Infinite_monkey, even Jesus ran away to the hills for some relief from the massive neediness around him. Even He needed recharging. Don't feel bad that you're not always "up" and ready to give give give.
Would it be hard to take the money you feel led to put into charity, divide it up, slip each portion into a sealed envelope, and give until it runs out ? After that, "I have no money to give" would not be a lie -- you would have set aside what your good stewardship of your God-given resources allowed, and after that is gone you have no more to give.
Thanks for that, Janine--it's a good suggestion. Tragically, it reaches me after I'm made the following convoluted plan:
--When buying something, always get change rather than tendering exact amounts (if something costs $4.23, I'm paying with a fiver instead of a fiver and a quarter...)
--Carry coin purse o' change on person at all times.
--Everyone gets a handful.
Fundamentally, the goal is to not walk past people anymore. I'm committing myself to the time and effort it takes to look someone in the eye, smile, and give them something, even though that something isn't much. It's more about making contact than it is about actually giving vast sums of money.
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Tiffer
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Apparently my college has no vegans. Should I make a fuss and make them do a vegan supper for me, ordo I just go vegy and suffer the batter on the quorn toad in the hole - or leave it? Making a fuss about food is just so against my nature. We have gluten free people here (I think just one ordinand and his kids). Hmmm.
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Arrietty
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I don't think it would be making a fuss to have a quiet word with the catering manager and asking if it's possible for you to have vegan meals.
I'm sure it's part of her/his job to accomodate dietary requirements but they're not going to provide something unless they know someone wants it because if it's anything like my college they have a budget of about two and half pence per person per meal.
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Online Mission and Ministry
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Carys
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Originally posted by Arrietty:
I don't think it would be making a fuss to have a quiet word with the catering manager and asking if it's possible for you to have vegan meals.
I'm sure it's part of her/his job to accomodate dietary requirements but they're not going to provide something unless they know someone wants it because if it's anything like my college they have a budget of about two and half pence per person per meal.
Certainly at my Cambridge college (admittedly larger than a theological college), one could order Veggie, Vegan, nut free & gluten free when booking formal halls (at the point of booking) and there were notes about speaking to the catering manager about dietary matters in general.
Vegan's not that difficult to achieve rather than veggie as long as one thinks about it. At least that's what I'm hoping! At lunchtime, I went for the salad bar, but avoided the potato salad and coleslaw because of the mayonnaise, and will also avoid the noodles (nice though they are) if they appear because they'll probably be made with egg, but I'm presuming the pasta isn't eggy.
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My Lenten discipline is going to be thus: I have written a list of 40 people I know, and the idea is each day during Lent I will do something extra special for them, and spend some time praying for them. So today I took my Mum out for lunch; it's a friend's birthday at the weekend so I'll bake her a gorgeous cake etc etc - for each person I'll find something I can do to bless them. The idea is to make me intentionally other-centred and slightly less self-centred, and help me pay for others in bite-size chunks (ifswim!) . Hopefully it'll become habit-forming.
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Rossweisse
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That's a wonderful idea, Doulos.
Please advise on how it goes!
Ross
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Landlubber
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I am going to commit more. So I'm not giving up the Ship, rather I will log in each time I visit instead of lurking, and instead of skimming too many threads, I will read some more closely and post (assuming I have anything sensible to say) instead of muttering to myself. Likewise, in Real Life I will join one of the lunchtime groups or services I have discovered near work.
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They that go down to the sea in ships … reel to and fro, and stagger like a drunken man
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duchess
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Gave up caffeine. It was really rough but getting better. I mean to trust God on this...I have meant to try out not caffeine for a couple months and took the plunge on Ash Wed.
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claudine
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Today was the first day that I fasted before mass. I missed the coffee the most. Oh boy, did I miss the coffee! This could be a long Lent indeed.
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Sir Kevin
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quote:
Originally posted by Pearl B4 Swine:
The church will not be crowded.
PB4S
The cathedral was crowded Wednesday night when I went to the last English-speaking Mass. I had to work at 7AM so I could not go to 6.15 AM
Have successfully joined the YMCA, where I plan to work out and/or go swimming. Beer has been give up; only beer in the fridge is Zeke's Alaskan microbrew. Shan't be using it in cooking!
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Writing is currently my hobby, not yet my profession.
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J Whitgift
Pro ecclesia dei!
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I'm giving up Alcohol for Lent and want set a rule for drinking far less alcohol over all, post-Lent. (I'm also giving up chocolate and buying books - but as my friend Canon B said to me on the latter, 'how can one give up something which is right!?!')
I'm taking up saying the daily office (Morning Prayer and Evensong from the SSF prayerbook + the Angelus at midday). I've been saying Morning Prayer for a while now, but want to set down a more rigorous rule for myself.
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On the issue of homosexuality the Liberals have spent their time thinking, considering and listening (in the spirit of the Windsor process), whereas Conservative Anglicans have used the time to further dig their feet in and become more intransigent.
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J Whitgift
Pro ecclesia dei!
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PS. Hope to go Veggie for Passiontide + cut down on caffeine/fizzy pop during the same period.
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On the issue of homosexuality the Liberals have spent their time thinking, considering and listening (in the spirit of the Windsor process), whereas Conservative Anglicans have used the time to further dig their feet in and become more intransigent.
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Curiosity killed ...
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I have already cut out alcohol and chocolate for Lent and intend to stop eating meat and back to mostly vegetarian (fish, milk and dairy), also cutting down my bread consumption. I didn't start at the beginning of Lent because I hadn't finished the nice stuff I'd bought from the monthly Farmer's Market. I would like to be vegan for Holy Week - that's a carbon footprint thing as much as diet, but I am working with challenging kids and keeping calm is higher priority.
My first organic veggie box arrived on the Monday before Lent and it looks as if the local organic farm has sorted out its supply system again.
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uncletoby
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I've given up drinking for Lent, not for the first time. The last time I did it my alcohol consumption never returned to pre-Lent levels, and I am hoping that I can manage the same thing again this time.
I'm also going to try to get to Evensong + Benediction every Sunday, and Stations of the Cross on Fridays.
At home I'm generally trying to pray more and better (i.e. when I'm properly awake), read the Bible more and specifically to prepare the readings for Sunday Mass each Saturday evening. I am also hoping that I can make these habits stick once Lent is over.
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