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Erroneous Monk
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A certain thread in Purgatory is very close to triggering a Hell Call. However in an attempt to lighten the mood, whilst also providing a forum for more hellish comment on the subject, I thought we could discuss what we'd like to play with (and have our children play with) in church.
I would like a Wii with a programme that enables you to hold the handsets, and see yourself on screen saying the Mass, doing the hand-waving etc. Something along the lines of Roman Catholic Priest-Hero.
I think this would be entertaining and would also encourage vocations. Any parent, therefore, who encouraged their child to play with this should surely be commended?
Any other suggestions?
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This doesn't belong here. Off to Heaven with yhou
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Oh yes. And how about liturgical dressed dolls -male and female priests, monks and nuns. Dressing and undressing them, and mixing up the various items of liturgical wear , albs, stoles, berettas etc - would keep kids happy for hours. And at last we could solve the vexed question of whether religious bods wear knickers or not.
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(A less expensive version of the game might use paper dolls.) Can't you hear some gleeful athiest in the making squeak up "Look, Mum, Father Fred's wearing a frilly thong!"
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Not to mention "Why are the traditional nuns wearing Moslem veils?"
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Erroneous Monk
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Although, if Father Fred is anything like Action Man, he will have plastic underpants and No Willy.
"Mummy - why does Father Fred have no willy?" would be a great question to be asked at the top of toddler voice during the Eucharistic prayer...
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Is this the right time to ask what Pee Wee Herman played with in church?
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"Mummy - why does Father Fred have no willy?" would be a great question to be asked at the top of toddler voice during the Eucharistic prayer...
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At the risk of going off on a tangent on children's sayings in church, may I say that, in a recent talk on the Ten Commandments, I asked the children in our church what rules existed in their homes. I got the predictable "Homework before television" and "Times for going to bed" etc., but one child said, "Not weeing in the bath"! Fortunately not many people heard it.
Also, many years ago, my nephew - aged about 5 and not familiar with church - was taken to a service of lessons and carols. He enjoyed the congregational music, tolerated the choir ones but found the readings dull. Half-way through the 6th lesson (approximately) he mortified my sister by saying - loudly - "This bit is boring. When are they going to put on the next record?"
Now back to the thread ...)
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Baptist Trainfan said;
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"Not weeing in the bath."
Lord have mercy upon us, and incline our hearts to keep this law.
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Originally posted by jacobsen:
And at last we could solve the vexed question of whether religious bods wear knickers or not.
Now that's a question that had never crossed my mind before. And one that will no doubt fascinate me in the next Sunday Service. Oh deary me...
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And in old news, today, for those on Facebook, you may find some amusement in the group "Worship Team Hero". Which was quite funny, right up until the point someone actually effectively brought it out for real.
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What to play with in church? Why this of course.
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Or perhaps this or this or this.
And I am so totally ordering one of these!
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Building blocks, Erector sets, Lego, and other building toys, and build churches out of them.
Or altar hardware out of Lego. That'd be cool for a children's service.
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Tinkertoys!
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Originally posted by Otter:
Building blocks, Erector sets, Lego, and other building toys, and build churches out of them.
Or build houses with them, with the option of building in the sand tray or on a rock. At the end of Mass, the celebrant pours holy water over the houses and the congregation observe which stand and which fall.
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...Is there a 'children's sayings in church' thread?? If so, I need to add my son's as a 5 year old, totally derailing the minister's 'Talk to young people'
Minister: who is the most important person here?
my son: I am. (deadpan)
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Originally posted by amber.:
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Originally posted by jacobsen:
And at last we could solve the vexed question of whether religious bods wear knickers or not.
Now that's a question that had never crossed my mind before. And one that will no doubt fascinate me in the next Sunday Service. Oh deary me...
You mean that you didn't know that they have to wear them in the correct liturgical colours, with sackcloth knickers for Lent? They come from the special vicar's knickers shop.
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Originally posted by Erroneous Monk:
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Originally posted by Otter:
Building blocks, Erector sets, Lego, and other building toys, and build churches out of them.
Or build houses with them, with the option of building in the sand tray or on a rock. At the end of Mass, the celebrant pours holy water over the houses and the congregation observe which stand and which fall.
When oldest son was 5 or so he built an exquisitely elaborate multi-layered lego cathedrral. He proudly showed me each level, showing me where the priests go in, the people sit, etc. Then I asked about the lower level:
"That's the alligator dungeon" he said.
"Alligator dungeon?"
"for the Baal worshippers".
Time to ease of the OT readings I'm thinking....
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This thread reminds me that I used to play communion in the shower stall at my house where I grew up.
To this day I don't know why I thought that was appropriate...
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DD builds churches out of the soft toy blocks that are kept in a box in a side aisle. It distracts her from complaining that the choir is too noisy.
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This thread reminds me that I used to play communion in the shower stall at my house where I grew up.
To whom did you give communion? No, wait, I'm sure I don't want to know.
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I was a little geek; I played with the hymnal. Particularly if the sermon was boring. Needless to say, I got to learn the hymnal pretty intimately.
I would read through all the services we used, as well as the significant number we didn't use. I would read through the Psalms. I would locate my favorite hymns and "sing" them in my head. I would try to work out the foreign language pronunciation of the hymn titles. I tried to see if I could follow the notation or figure out the meter keys.
As I got older, I would take sermon notes for confirmation class. This continued after i got confirmed, only I would use my paper and pen to argue with the Pastor regarding his main points. I still do this. Any time a minister observes me with my head down scribbling furiously after they have said something, they should be worried.
During the service itself, my older sister and I devised a way to communicate with each other using the hymns.
(To the tune of "Ein Feste Burg")
Me: What time do yo-ou think Sun-day School starts?
Sis: E- lev'n O'clock, as u-su-al
You get the idea.
Also, our church usually had slips of blank paper in the pew holders, which I would draw on. I found this to be meditational as well as creatively stimulating.
One last note: Youth Specialties published this little gem. I once lent it to my pastor, with a note asking him to please have it back to me by the next Sunday, as I would undoubtedly need it.
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Originally posted by jedijudy:
This is what I play with in church. ![[Angel]](graemlins/angel.gif)
I had a feeling you might say that.
One of my fellow-altos in the choir makes little boats out of cough-sweetie papers; she had enough to singe the King of Spain's beard until the Altar Guild found them ...
ETA: we measure sermons by how many boats she can make.
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Originally posted by piglet:
One of my fellow-altos in the choir makes little boats out of cough-sweetie papers; she had enough to singe the King of Spain's beard until the Altar Guild found them ...
ETA: we measure sermons by how many boats she can make.
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Oh dear - is it going to hurt?
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as a kid, church was tough to endure and i got pinched a lot by mom. they sang "blessed be the tie that binds" and as the third son and plump, the shirts passed down by my skinny older brother had tight collars enhanced by ties that seemed to bind. as a kid i never understood why those ties were blessed.
games for kids
count the heads. take a paper and put columns for the different kinds of heads.
bald heads
toupees count for two
big hair ladies
ladies with mens hair cuts
ladies with wigs
ladies with root growth needing dye.
another bonus game for immediately after church would be to pay out a dime for every hunk of gum pulled off the bottom of the church pews. this could be a once a year game played 6 months away from easter. kind of a gummy egg hunt.
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I also read hymnals and wrote on slips (I think offering envelopes) in the pews. My sister & I wrote notes back & forth.
This is one more of the many, many reasons churches should have hymnals and not use projectors. Kids can amuse themselves undisruptively with a hymnal; not so much with the projector.
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A four-manual pipe organ does me all right...
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Grandmother's Footsteps as they go up for communion.
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My father practised his mathematics with the hymnboard.
Then for the older kids there is the long honourable tradition of preacher cricket. Rules vary congregation to congregation but it works on common nuances of the preacher.
For adults who want to spice up the service, there is taking bets on the theme of the sermon. Easier amongst English dissent (where the hymns are chosen to fit the theme) than amongst the CofE where such a link is rarer.
For littlies (those under five) there is how far can I get away from my parents before someone notices and brings me back. Its a form of grandmothers footsteps only the rest of the congregation are grandmother.
For charismatic services there is chorus bingo! With the shout of "alleluia" rather than bingo when all five of your chosen choruses comes up.
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Originally posted by Zacchaeus:
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Originally posted by amber.:
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Originally posted by jacobsen:
And at last we could solve the vexed question of whether religious bods wear knickers or not.
Now that's a question that had never crossed my mind before. And one that will no doubt fascinate me in the next Sunday Service. Oh deary me...
You mean that you didn't know that they have to wear them in the correct liturgical colours, with sackcloth knickers for Lent? They come from the special vicar's knickers shop.
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Originally posted by daviddrinkell:
A four-manual pipe organ does me all right...
Yeah, but why can't all the children have one, eh?
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Originally posted by Erroneous Monk:
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Originally posted by daviddrinkell:
A four-manual pipe organ does me all right...
Yeah, but why can't all the children have one, eh?
I'd recommend a harmonica each. Just the thing for any boring bits...
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There is a friend of ours in church who sits with his wife directly in front of us every week and draws an very elaborate sketch on his offering envelope during the sermon. The picture is always based on whatever our pastor preaches that day. We, being near him get to see the sketch first during the offering. If you look around during the offering, you'll see other families taking a quick peek at his envelope as the plate passes each week.
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In the chapel where we went for a summer camp each year there was a stained glass window facing me with diamond-shaped panels, and I used to see how many larger diamonds I could count - making medium-size ones of 4 panels, big ones of 9 etc. Boring, yes, but when I went back as an adult after several years' gap, I started doing it again almost automatically.
I play with the corners of the service sheet, or if it's getting very tedious, fold them into origami cranes. This attracts attention though, and looks a bit odd if it's my husband preaching.
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Originally posted by Presbyopic:
There is a friend of ours in church who sits with his wife directly in front of us every week and draws an very elaborate sketch on his offering envelope during the sermon. The picture is always based on whatever our pastor preaches that day. We, being near him get to see the sketch first during the offering. If you look around during the offering, you'll see other families taking a quick peek at his envelope as the plate passes each week.
That seems realy cool. Who could complain?
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Drawing or doodling is excellent. I did it for years when I was very little, and still occasionally do so (I confess). The church I attend even has blank notepads in the pew for people who want to take notes or children who need to doodle. Good thinking.
As a child I also grew fond of origami. Bulletins are handy for so many things. It is easy to make many squares and if you have memorized a number of origami patterns, you can entertain yourself well and quietly for a good long time. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Drawing or doodling is excellent. I did it for years when I was very little, and still occasionally do so (I confess). The church I attend even has blank notepads in the pew for people who want to take notes or children who need to doodle. Good thinking.
Blessings,
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Is the blank note pad ting in pews common to Californian churches? I visited one in Fresno 3 or 4 years ago and there were some pads in the pews there. (Though the sermon was good enough not to require any doodling.)
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Originally posted by Erroneous Monk:
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Originally posted by daviddrinkell:
A four-manual pipe organ does me all right...
Yeah, but why can't all the children have one, eh?
It's a matter of space - people will clutter up churches with no end of unnecessary stuff.....
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Hi, I'm new to SoF, this is only my 3rd blog, ist in this forum. I can't go back over 47 pp. to see if the following has been discussed, but am sure it has been: Kate Mosse's "Labyrinth". I found it compelling. Any views?
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Ooops! I meant my blog to go to "Which book are you reading?" - have not yet mastered navigation of this site. Sorry.
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Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by PataLeBon:
This thread reminds me that I used to play communion in the shower stall at my house where I grew up.
To whom did you give communion? No, wait, I'm sure I don't want to know.
To my imaginary friends. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
And I didn't know what a confessional was at that time, or I'm sure I would have figured out how to play that too.
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Originally posted by Benny Diction 2:
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Originally posted by ErinBear:
Drawing or doodling is excellent. I did it for years when I was very little, and still occasionally do so (I confess). The church I attend even has blank notepads in the pew for people who want to take notes or children who need to doodle. Good thinking.
Blessings,
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Is the blank note pad ting in pews common to Californian churches? I visited one in Fresno 3 or 4 years ago and there were some pads in the pews there. (Though the sermon was good enough not to require any doodling.)
not ubiquitous, but not uncommon. My church has space for "sermon notes" in the bulletin, which I use for both (notes with a generous amount of doodling or calligraphic flair). I actually do find I concentrate much better that way, even tho the notes are discarded immediately after the church. I also write to-do lists, which helps me stop obsessing on whatever the intrusive thought is ("buy peaches!") so, again, I'm able to concentrate.
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One of my former pastors who'd been raised by missionary parents in China used to doodle Chinese characters during long, boring meetings. He swore he was just writing the alphabet or taking notes, but I suspecting he was actually writing "that is the stupidest idea I ever heard!" or "will that cliffdweller ever shut up?!"
Now we have a lot more native Chinese speakers/readers in the congregation he'd never get away w/ it though.
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Presbyopic:
There is a friend of ours in church who sits with his wife directly in front of us every week and draws an very elaborate sketch on his offering envelope during the sermon. The picture is always based on whatever our pastor preaches that day. We, being near him get to see the sketch first during the offering. If you look around during the offering, you'll see other families taking a quick peek at his envelope as the plate passes each week.
That seems realy cool. Who could complain?
Nobody at all. In fact, I've heard the counters have kept every envelope he has ever drawn somewhere in the office for safekeeping. It's the high point of their counting day to come across his offering.
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Originally posted by QJ:
as a kid, church was tough to endure and i got pinched a lot by mom. they sang "blessed be the tie that binds" and as the third son and plump, the shirts passed down by my skinny older brother had tight collars enhanced by ties that seemed to bind. as a kid i never understood why those ties were blessed.
games for kids
count the heads. take a paper and put columns for the different kinds of heads.
bald heads
toupees count for two
big hair ladies
ladies with mens hair cuts
ladies with wigs
ladies with root growth needing dye.
another bonus game for immediately after church would be to pay out a dime for every hunk of gum pulled off the bottom of the church pews. this could be a once a year game played 6 months away from easter. kind of a gummy egg hunt.
My vote for best suggestions yet.
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
One of my former pastors who'd been raised by missionary parents in China used to doodle Chinese characters during long, boring meetings. He swore he was just writing the alphabet or taking notes, but I suspecting he was actually writing "that is the stupidest idea I ever heard!" or "will that cliffdweller ever shut up?!"
Now we have a lot more native Chinese speakers/readers in the congregation he'd never get away w/ it though.
I used to do this in grad school! Kept a professor of mine from reading my notes over my shoulder, which I found vastly irritating. Which was why he did it, of course.
Thus endeth the Digression.
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Er, this is what I've been up to (book).
Oh, that you would rend the heavens and come down!
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