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Percy B
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Somewhat light hearted,
.... And by mistake I posted this thread in Ecclesiantics, thinking how we dressed for worship was probably a worship practice.
So transferring the thread to here ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Is there a written, or Unwritten, dress code for worshippers at your church? I suspect there is even though we may think there isn't. I also suspect that dress code for worship has changed with society's change on the subject.
I raise this because during a web search for something totally different I came across
This sermon on EWTN the global Catholic network with very clear views on dress code.
Our church doesn't have a dress code but I guess things would be said on too scanty clothing, and I'm not sure about men who kept hats on...
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Sir Kevin
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All parishioners are expected to wear clean clothes and men shall not wear hats. Even if you are dressed in replica football gear (wihout spikes!) clergy and other parishioners are just happy to see you: that is why we have so many masses on weekends at the cathedral parish here, including two in Spanish.
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Sir Kevin
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( We don't have idiot rent-a-cops at my church, but we do have a 300-pound sacristan who can deal with troublemakers if need be. )
The rector does require that male lectors and EMs wear long trousers and female lectors and EMs wear skirts below the knee or trousers. The choir has no dress code for women who often wear miniskirts if they're young.
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My church expects you to show up with clothes on. Though if you DIDN'T, I suspect someone would loan you some. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
I've seen some pretty weird ensembles and nobody batting an eye, which frankly surprises me. Last Sunday I sat in the same pew with my old sea-captain-looking-guy (of quotesfile fame), which gave me the opportunity to realize that he does not in fact stop with the crossdressing below the waist. That was some mighty fine lipstick he had on!
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Any given Sunday there will be people in suit and tie, dresses, sweat pants, in summer: shorts, T-shirts and thongs*. The main requirement for communion is that there may not be gum in your mouth - yes, this has come up.
*The young people claim thongs are to be called flip-flops and that the word thong means very skimpy flimsies, but I don't agree.
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Spike
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Your young people are correct. At least in this country that's what springs to mind when someone mentions a thong.
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Edgeman
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The only dress code we have for the congregation is that no one should wear skirts that are very short and very tight.(Gender unspecific on purpose. We have had incidents.)
For servers, white longsleeve dress shirt, black pants, socks, and shoes. No jewelry is allowed.
For lectors, only that they should wear something sensible that will allow them to bow to the altar without risking, um, embarrassment. (Yes, we have had incidents in this regard as well.)
But most people tend to dress up a bit- skirts and blouses, dress shirts, slacks and ties, suits and sportcoats occasionally. Some of that is likely tied to class here. We're located in an odd place that lies between wealthy suburbs a couple blocks north and the destitute ghetto a couple blocks south.
Growing up in the poor part of the neighborhood, showing up to church as a male in anything less than a shirt, tie, slacks and shoes was considered beyond disrespectful. I don't think I encountered people dressed casually for church until I attended the first RC mass I ever attended. It was just something we never did. And of course, we also have our own history with church hats as well, something people have written books about.
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Firenze
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Years ago when I went to Friends' Meeting, the dress code seemed to be flannel check shirts and shoes like Cornish pasties. And the men the same.
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Haydee
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The dress code (though unofficial) is smart casual, although I've fallen out of bed & put on some trackies & gone without getting any hard looks.
On the whole (generalisation alert) I would agree that the poorer the background of the person (in wealth terms) the smarter the church clothes - and of course here in South Africa there is a strong correlation of race & wealth.
Some of the children seem to have 'Sunday best', especially the younger girls (or perhaps they dress like that everyday?!).
The early, more traditional service gets an older section of the congregation who are smarter than the younger lot at the mid-morning service.
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Bob Two-Owls
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When I occasionally make it to a sunday service the dress code appears to be tweeds and tattershall check shirts, with a tie or cravat for the men. The women are generally smartly dressed, fully sleeved and skirts below the knee, 50/50 for hats. Oddly enough the only person I have seen in a miniskirt and low cut top was a man but fortuantely nobody made a fuss and his dress was far more modest the next week.
Tourists are a different matter though, I recently had to ask a young lady to cover up when she wandered into the church wearing a revealingly low cut t-shirt bearing the slogan "I sold my soul to satan and all I got was this lousy T-shirt". She understood that it would cause offence but was adamant that she had the right to wear what she wanted in church. In the end she threw a plain purple hoodie over the top and all was well.
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Lord Jestocost
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One of our youth who was scheduled to be doing a reading was intercepted before the service and asked to put a top on over her FCUK t-shirt. That's the only sartorial enforcement I've been aware of in over 10 years at that particular church.
I heard from a friend who was there that the person in charge of the kids' stream at New Wine once had to have it explained gently that his "bring your daughter to the slaughter" t-shirt was inappropriate.
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The church I go to has everyone coming (not the vicar, curates, musicians, etc) dressed in whatever they feel comfortable in and not "formally" in any way. We are never told what to wear. And a man could be dressed in female clothes and a woman in male clothes. Some children sometimes are dressed in angel clothes.
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People used to wear smart clothes to my church - the men with ties and some of the women with hats. I remember when the last hat wearer (a woman in her 40s) joined the choir, so wore a uniform and dropped the hat. Since then, the trend has been towards more casual clothing for anyone not in the chancel or sanctuary, although older worshippers often still tend to wear jacket and tie and women wearing smarter skirts than they perhaps would on weekdays.
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Vulpior
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I dress smart during the week for work and casually at the weekend, including for church. Long shorts (not dress) would be fine, and t-shirt. I wouldn't wear just a singlet alone, though I might wear one to and from church and throw a light shirt over for the service.
I can see myself dressing up for church when I'm older and am not dressing smart during the week!
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Newcomers and visitors to my church tend to dress more smartly than regulars, possibly because it's an Abbey and people think this is what is required of such a place. Older (over 70ish) regulars tend to dress smarter than they would during the week, but most other people wear whatever they feel comfortable in or what will suit their previous/next activity (mucking out stables, fishing, gardening, sailing). I don't recall any cross-dressing occurrences, but I can't see it being a problem. Less than 1% will wear a hat, although that sometimes changes when it gets colder. One of our communion servers (no uniform) occasionally wears a lovely sparkly blouse which picks up the spotlights very well. I wish I could have been at a recent big gipsy wedding (along the lines of the C4 series) because, from what I've heard, regular church dress codes were certainly stretched although everyone was dressed magnificently.
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Albertus
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No dress code as such at our place: some wear shorts in summer, which is something i can never bruing myself to do. (In my fogey youth I never felt able to wear plus fours to the college chapel, either, and not because, as you might think, all right minded people would have laughed me to scorn. )
Slight tangent: when we moved to Cardiff from south London some 10 years ago, there was a womens clothes shop in a fairly upmarket (and rather white) suburban shopping street that advertised 'Caribbean wedding wear'. It took me some time to work out that, to my disappointment, this meant what you wear to go and get married on the beach in Barbados rather than the kind of vibrant colours, leg of mutton sleeves and big hats that I'd seen West Indian ladies wearing to weddings etc where we'd come from.
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Adeodatus
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Originally posted by Percy B:
Is there a written, or Unwritten, dress code for worshippers at your church?
Pyjamas and sometimes a drip-stand.
I'm a hospital chaplain. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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I can't say I've been taking notes, but my feeling about our congregation is that there are ethnic differences overlaid on the class ones. White people and Asians tend (with many exceptions) to dress down - jeans and trainers and T shirts quite common; older West Indians tend to dress up, younger ones dress down; and Africans (the majority of the congregation) are very varied. Nigerians will wear shiny colourful robes on special occasions, which can get quite spectacular.
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John Holding
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Years ago when I went to Friends' Meeting, the dress code seemed to be flannel check shirts and shoes like Cornish pasties. And the men the same.
Veerrry long flannel check shirts, I presume -- knee length, perhaps?
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John Holding
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Meanwhile, back at the sermon, I found it interesting that the preacher seemed only to be concerned about women's wear -- no comments that I could see about men arriving immodestly dressed -- in very tight cycling shorts, for example, or without a top on.
Or perhaps he thought that male immodesty is an oxymoron.
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Angloid
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Originally posted by no prophet:
Any given Sunday there will be people in suit and tie, dresses, sweat pants, in summer: shorts, T-shirts and thongs*. The main requirement for communion is that there may not be gum in your mouth - yes, this has come up.
*The young people claim thongs are to be called flip-flops and that the word thong means very skimpy flimsies, but I don't agree.
Spike and I do!
Appropriate wear for an evening service perhaps? Just a thong at twilight, or Eventhong.
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Angloid
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I've just finished a stint of sunday cover for a vacant parish. Congregation very predominantly over-60 and lower-middle-class white. Women (the majority) tended to wear pleated skirts and frilly blouses, with fully-permed white hair. The men, dark suits and ties with neatly brushed white hair. They were a very friendly lot so I doubt if they would look down on anyone dressed casually, but I don't remember seeing anyone in jeans. The few children dressed as children normally do these days.
The church I usually attend is in a socially very mixed area; the congregation is predominantly white middle class with a few ethnic minorities and working class people. One or two enjoy dressing up (mostly the men) but generally the dress code is casual to scruffy.
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Originally posted by Percy B:
I raise this because during a web search for something totally different I came across
This sermon on EWTN the global Catholic network with very clear views on dress code.
Salient points:
1) This homily was delivered in late May. In Alabama. If you're unfamiliar with the area, let me tell you, it's HOT there at that time of year.
2) He quotes a papal guideline from 1928 for appropriate fashion advice.
3) He focuses his entire attention on women's attire, and how it becomes an occasion of sin for men.
4) It's an EWTN link - EWTN being the folks who operate a media network so mind-numbingly Catholic, not even the Pope can watch for very long without thumbing the remote and saying, "I wonder what else is on."
Here are my particular objections to this particular homily. First, there are indeed inappropriate forms of dress for Church (swimsuits surely fall into that category). But if he is going to decry any form of comfort wear in a warm climate, including sleeveless dresses, either he needs to crank up the air conditioner pretty high or he's going to find himself one lonely priest when summer kicks in full blast.
Second, modesty is not about how many square inches of skin is being revealed. Modesty is all about one's demeanor. I have seen women at our parish (also in the South) who would not fit his dress code, but are quite modest individuals. Yes, fashion can be an outward indicator of a person's modesty, but in most occasions like this it is an indicator of a person's need to be flippin' comfortable in the heat. I tend to think that if the way another person dresses is an occasion of sin for you, it says a LOT more about you than it does about the other person.
(I think I just ranted there. Sorry, but people who get hung up on outward appearances tend to push my buttons.)
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shamwari
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I do not think for a minute that God takes account of what one wears to Church.
But, if worship is "special" then it seeems to me that we should make it something of an "occasion" and therefore dress accordingly.
I cannot imagine Jesus wearing a T shirt and trainers when he went to the synagogue "as was his custom" on the sabbath day.
And I wonder how many shipmates would not dress up were they invited to an audience with the Queen at Buck Palace.
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And I wonder how many shipmates would not dress up were they invited to an audience with the Queen at Buck Palace.
George W. Bush's daughter, Barbara, supposedly showed up for lunch there in jeans, but AFAIK she's not a Shipmate.
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Little Weed, my God son, made a habit of coming to Church dressed as a Super Hero. He had a variety of outfits, most supplied by me. I feel a little sad that he has grown out of the habit. But he has a small brother....
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Originally posted by Adeodatus:
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Originally posted by Percy B:
Is there a written, or Unwritten, dress code for worshippers at your church?
Pyjamas and sometimes a drip-stand.
I'm a hospital chaplain.
Despite being very thankful not to need a hospital Chaplin, I would like to attend church in my pjs. Especially the 8am service because it'd be easier to go back to bed afterwards!
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Boogie
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I wear jeans and a T shirt, but I make sure they are my best jeans.
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daisymay
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This has come into my mind as I've been seeing what some people wear in our church - the Africans often wear their beautiful African clothes, and the Chinese ones and others wear theirs, and so do the Indian ones - I wear my Indian clothes too at times. But it's not mainly "formal" clothes. And hats when it's cold are often, as are extra warm clothes. And shoes are the walking/exercise ones.
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Graven Image
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On Sunday morning you will see everything from shorts and T shirts, to suits and dresses. Most are some place in between.
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It may be just me, but I'm imagining that when Fr Dominic wrote his homily he was getting just a little - over-excited, shall we say? - as he framed his fulsome descriptions of women's thighs, arms, knees and other body parts.
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The only incident I can recall was of servers and choir members being asked to wear appropriate shoes when robed. This was because we had a couple of youngsters who kept turning up with thongs on their feet - not a good image during the processional. At another church near mine I was horrified to hear of a minister who would take the service in old and dirty gardening clothes and refused to robe at all. His congregation eventually took him to task as they felt he needed to dress properly when he came to work.
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I have never bothered about any presumed "dress codes" at any church I have ever been to, and never will. And anyone trying to badger me into such a thing would get an earful.
I haven't generally worn my leather to most services, though, as I don't want to frighten the natives. But as far as "formal" "informal" and the like go, I'm quite happy with shorts and a t-shirt most of the time.
As for thongs, yes, I'd be quite pleased to attend Eventhong.
(And I would think sandals/flip-flips would look more appropriate with robes rather than less.)
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QuietMBR
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I wear clothing. People appreciate that.
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Spiffy
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Originally posted by shamwari:
And I wonder how many shipmates would not dress up were they invited to an audience with the Queen at Buck Palace.
I might put on a nice shirt. But I'd wear my jeans and tenis. Then again, she ain't my queen.
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Originally posted by John Holding:
Meanwhile, back at the sermon, I found it interesting that the preacher seemed only to be concerned about women's wear -- no comments that I could see about men arriving immodestly dressed -- in very tight cycling shorts, for example, or without a top on.
Or perhaps he thought that male immodesty is an oxymoron.
JOhn
I've spent a lot of time studying this, and I'd say about 98% of the sermons, tracts, and Bible teachings I've gathered on the concept of Modesty in Dress focus on women's clothing. The 2% that applies to men is usually "Don't wear ratty clothes with corporate logos."
Anyway, at my shack, to quote a country and western song, "Come as you are, there ain't no dress code".
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Originally posted by shamwari:
And I wonder how many shipmates would not dress up were they invited to an audience with the Queen at Buck Palace.
I would not!
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Originally posted by no prophet:
*The young people claim thongs are to be called flip-flops and that the word thong means very skimpy flimsies, but I don't agree.
Different meaning on either side of the Tasman, but to wear no more than that, while climactically and geologically more appropriate on this side of our ditch, might raise eyebrows, inter alia, either side.
I have no idea on the other hand what flimsies are - except by context. And context is everything.
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A friend of mine is a tour guide in a medieval church and runs tours up the tower on certain days. We were talking about this thread last night and she told me of a conversation she heard when she opened the door to the rather steep spiral staircase. Two girls in their early 20s were arguing about who should go first as neither was wearing underwear and their skirts were a little on the short side. In the end it was decided that it was OK for one of them to go behind the other because at least she had waxed.
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Back in the 60's when ladies wore hats, gloves and coats to church my Mum went one cold wet Sunday night with her overcoat over the the not so Sunday best clothes she had been wearing during the day as she could be bothered changing and 'no-one will know'. On arrival she was asked to play the piano as the usual pianist wasn't coming. I can still see her discomfort at the piano at not taking off her coat. These days the clothes she had on would be been more than acceptable.
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Percy B
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I am not entirely sure why it's not thought appropriate for lay men to wear hats in worship. It does seem to be an unwritten code that lay men shall not wear hats.
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Jengie jon
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Percy
It is back to St Paul and his statement that women should have their heads covered. He implies pretty strongly in the same that men should not!
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It's really just a social convention. This became a huge bugaboo in my cong. a few years back. Pre-JFK, American men famously wore hats-- which means the "builder generation" knows "the rules" about hats. But the boomers grew up w/o hats, thus no reason to learn the rules. A few years back when hats suddenly became the fad among teens, they started wearing them to church. Their boomer parents had no knowledge of The Rules, no reason to know they shouldn't wear them there. The older members of the church were shocked and appalled-- and quite judgmental re: both teens and parents.
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Percy B
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Percy
It is back to St Paul and his statement that women should have their heads covered. He implies pretty strongly in the same that men should not!
Jengie
Thanks Jengie.
But he was a Jew and Jewish men, at least today, wear hats at worship (I think) . . .
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Originally posted by QuietMBR:
I wear clothing. People appreciate that.
When I was interviewed for my job at my church, I asked about proper office attire. My boss (who is also my rector and someone I'd known before that as well) answered "clothes." I've tried to follow that rule.
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Originally posted by Percy B:
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Percy
It is back to St Paul and his statement that women should have their heads covered. He implies pretty strongly in the same that men should not!
Jengie
Thanks Jengie.
But he was a Jew and Jewish men, at least today, wear hats at worship (I think) . . .
Well this is what he writes in 1 Corinthians 11:7-10 (NIV because I am lazy, bold mine)
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A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own head, because of the angels.
Jengie
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Percy
It is back to St Paul and his statement that women should have their heads covered. He implies pretty strongly in the same that men should not!
Jengie
Thanks Jengie.
But he was a Jew and Jewish men, at least today, wear hats at worship (I think) . . .
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Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
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It is back to St Paul and his statement that women should have their heads covered. He implies pretty strongly in the same that men should not!
Jengie
Thanks Jengie.
But he was a Jew and Jewish men, at least today, wear hats at worship (I think) . . .
While he was a Jew Paul was a Roman citizen, so it is likely that in addition to being bald (as stated in scripture) he cut his hair short and went bare-headed.
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On an aside I hadn't realised that St Paul was bald.
I've wondered before about men and hats in church. I've never understood why Jews and Muslims are in favour and Christians are not. Mind you as Leo says there is slippage in this dress code among Christians of today!
A simple question - did the Jewish men of the time of Our Lord cover their heads in the synagogue? - indeed did the Lord, I wonder.
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