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ExclamationMark
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This (*) is just one remark too far even in hell - especially for an admin. Comments and action please

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Originally posted by RooK:
[QUOTE] Thinking that symbolically eating your dead-jew-on-a-stick cult leader somehow makes it OK to cause suffering is also pretty funny, I admit.

Formal complaint about you and your language arriving in the styx now. Racist and bigoted.
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comet

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As per Hell rules, it's not too far. Feel free to call him to Hell for it, he wasn't posting officially.

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Uncle Pete

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What comet said.

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jerrytheorganist
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I hate to ask this, but how can you tell when he is posting officially as an admin or not since he doesn't use any designator to differentiate between admin posts and shipmate posts?
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comet

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He will sign his posts as an Admin if he's being official, as we all do. if I post something ending with "Hellhost" you call me to Styx. if I don't, feel free to chew my ass out. same goes for all the staff around here. If RooK hasn't signed his post as Admin, he's fair game. give'em hell.

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orfeo

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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
Racist and bigoted.

What's racist about it?

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Well, I can't say anything official here.

Unofficially, though, let me admit that the delicious dead-jew-on-a-stick was actually shamelessly stolen from a now-inactive Admin. One that, in days of yore, made me look like a lolcat in a bonnet by comparison.

Your assumptions about how things should be on The Ship might be flawed.

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So it is okay to advocate killing Jews in the Hell forum and putting their bodies on sticks like popiscles?

{edit - crosspost}

The inactive admin advocated this, you don't and the reference was a tribute? That the referenced admin is inactive, well, sounds like a good idea.

[ 30. November 2012, 02:43: Message edited by: no prophet ]

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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
Formal complaint about you and your language arriving in the styx now. Racist and bigoted.

Given that I may have goaded RooK into typing what he did, I would like to answer your plaint.

Darn.

Did you know that a sense of humor can be a valuable thing?

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quote:
no prophet: So it is okay to advocate killing Jews in the Hell forum and putting their bodies on sticks like popiscles?
RooK wasn't advocating killing Jews in general, no prophet. He was referring (crudely, yes), as I'm sure you're well aware, to a specific practice within Christendom.

[cross-posted with cross-posts galore]

[ 30. November 2012, 02:50: Message edited by: Mullygrub ]

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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
So it is okay to advocate killing Jews in the Hell forum and putting their bodies on sticks like popiscles?

{edit - crosspost}

The inactive admin advocated this, you don't and the reference was a tribute? That the referenced admin is inactive, well, sounds like a good idea.

Is there some bonus in life for taking everything at face value?
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quote:
Originally posted by Tortuf:
Is there some bonus in life for taking everything at face value?

Requires less of that annoying "thinking" stuff?

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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
So it is okay to advocate killing Jews in the Hell forum and putting their bodies on sticks like popiscles?

If you actually think that was what Rook was referring to, then clearly this is NOT a Christian website because obvious references to weekly Christian practices are sailing right over the Shipmates' heads!

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no prophet: BWA HA HA HA HA HA!

Good luck trying choke down that wildly-reaching inflammatory interpretation.

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Kelly Alves

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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
quote:
Originally posted by no prophet:
So it is okay to advocate killing Jews in the Hell forum and putting their bodies on sticks like popiscles?

If you actually think that was what Rook was referring to, then clearly this is NOT a Christian website because obvious references to weekly Christian practices are sailing right over the Shipmates' heads!
What orfeo said, and where were you and ! the last 473 times RooK made this joke?

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One person's joke is another's Commandment 1 violation.

Unfortunately- actually fortunately, I am in no position to throw stones.

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Anyway, he wasn't advocating murder as such, just cannibalism. Or, rather, NOT advocating it. Duh.

quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
.... made me look like a lolcat in a bonnet by comparison.

That's how I shall always think of you from now on.

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ExclamationMark
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quote:
Originally posted by Tortuf:
quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
Formal complaint about you and your language arriving in the styx now. Racist and bigoted.

Given that I may have goaded RooK into typing what he did, I would like to answer your plaint.

Darn.

Did you know that a sense of humor can be a valuable thing?

Yes it is - but it can also be wasted. I do not see any humour in the kind of comment I refer to.

There's no requirement for humour in this circumstance when the original comment is a 1st commandment violation. The fact that Rook has "Admin" by his name seemingly means he can do what he likes when others get called: that's a sense of humour failure in itself let alone the fact that he now admits to plagiarising filth and racism - why, the guy can't even do it for himself!

[ 30. November 2012, 07:24: Message edited by: ExclamationMark ]

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I wouldn't have called a regular shipmate on that one either. Do you get what he was saying?

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Spike

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quote:
Originally posted by ExclamationMark:
The fact that Rook has "Admin" by his name seemingly means he can do what he likes when others get called

Please provide some evidence for this and I assure you we will investigate it.

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Rook is engaged in trolling, as far as I can see.

quote:

Don't mind me; just rambling and laughing at the impressive display of religious "morals".

quote:
I'm amused by people bumbling around justifications primarily based on "just cause". Because it's revealing about how they probably came to many of their other beliefs.

Although I suppose that Marv's cobra dance of philosophy has caused much of the morality parade to blunder off a cliff. Still, it would be nice to hear even one hand-wringer to summon something like, "I believe that how we treat defenseless entities says something about us".

quote:
How others think they meet their own moral standards is what's funny. "The instruction manual is ambiguous!" is pure hilarity. Thinking that symbolically eating your dead-jew-on-a-stick cult leader somehow makes it OK to cause suffering is also pretty funny, I admit.
He is playing with us because he thinks it is funny. He likes to make deliberately offensive remarks and then stand back and laugh at the reaction.

He might be a wonderful site admin, I've no idea. But his posts tend towards trolling.

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Would it be OK if he made fun of Buddhists?
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the long ranger
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Well it is a toughie, but it strikes me that there is an issue about engagement. Having a row in Hell and calling someone names is one thing. But making silly comments with no intention of engaging and only for the purpose of having a laugh is trolling, surely.

The former involves some kind of engagement with individuals and what they're saying. The latter is just a form of stirring for your own amusement.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tortuf:
Would it be OK if he made fun of Buddhists?

Moreover, would it be OK if he made fun of Buddha? Buddhists might be offended, but it was a Hell post, and it wouldn't have been a slight on Buddhism just as RooK's post wasn't a slight on Judaism or Jews; just a remark in bad taste about one guy, who was a Jew.

If bad taste was 10C violation that Zoophilia thread wouldn't have got beyond three posts.

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the long ranger
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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:

If bad taste was 10C violation that Zoophilia thread wouldn't have got beyond three posts.

Yes, but everyone else was attempting to engage, albeit on a subject we all found uncomfortable. RooK seems only interested in stirring.

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If RooK wasn't engaging give him shit for it on the thread. Call him to Hell. Send him a pm expressing your dissatisfaction.

He was not posting as an admin. He simply cannot post without the admin thing showing up. RooK is always clear when he is posting in an official capacity. You know this to be true.

If not engaging is a 10C offense most of us should be banned.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rook:
symbolically eating your dead-jew-on-a-stick cult leader

Umm, in what way, exactly, is this not a perfectly adequate interpretation of the Eucharist?

Jesus was a Jew, he died on a stick, and the Eucharist represents symbolically his body.

Rook's language might offend you, if you're the kind of person momma still tucks in at night, but then since when did you have a right to not be offended by stuff?

You don't like it? Scroll past.

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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quote:
Originally posted by IntellectByProxy:
quote:
Originally posted by Rook:
symbolically eating your dead-jew-on-a-stick cult leader

Umm, in what way, exactly, is this not a perfectly adequate interpretation of the Eucharist?
If that's all there is to it, why do many of us bother to repeat it week after week?

I find the phrase offensive, as offensive as I would find "shoving your prong up her pisshole" to be a description of the sex act.

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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
I find the phrase offensive, as offensive as I would find "shoving your prong up her pisshole" to be a description of the sex act.

But it is a reasonably accurate description, no? I probably wouldn't use it myself, particularly if I were attempting to engage in the activity it is attempting to describe, but still...

Do you believe you have a right not to be offended?

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fletcher christian

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It's been a while since we had a ITTWACW

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Humour or intent is both within the mind of the person posting and the person reading. It took two trials to find David Ahenakew not guilty of hate speech in Canada for hate speech about Jews. I suggest more care in what is posted that might attract such legal attention. We've seen care taken to limit possible exposure of the ship to legal action. I think you're damn close here, at least within Canadian law, and I would like to be certain before we simply laugh it all off. It appear anti-semitic to me. Regardless of the spin or sense of humour anyone suggests it intended. And no, I had never hear of this expression referring to crucifixion of Jesus before as a middle aged, well educated western Canadian.

There's more than just scrolling past. I think we should care what the wider community of casual readers might think and what they might want to do about it.

Judge finds Ahenakew not guilty in 2nd hate trial.

[ 30. November 2012, 12:22: Message edited by: no prophet ]

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Look, would people STOP reading this as some kind of attack on Jews?

I thought it was so obvious that it didn't need saying, but apparently it DOES need saying.

The Jew in question is Jesus. Okay? It is a reference to one, specific Jew, and it isn't actually Jews who have a particular attachment to the Jew in question. Seeing as how he founded an entire new religion that they don't agree with.

So call it offensive if you want, or vulgar. But accusations of anti-Semitism over a dig at Christianity are missing the point so spectacularly that it's breathtaking.

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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
It is a reference to one, specific Jew, and it isn't actually Jews who have a particular attachment to the Jew in question. Seeing as how he founded an entire new religion that they don't agree with.

<theological pedant tangent. Because I can't help myself>

Those that formed the earliest attachment to Jesus were Jews. Gentile Christianity came later with Paul.

And he didn't found an entirely new religion. He had a specific take on his religion and a new-er religion was founded around that.

As for Rook's comments. He's was just being an insensitive dick. On purpose. Like wot Amanda B. Reckondwyth said.

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quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
<theological pedant tangent. Because I can't help myself>

The pedantry and the inability are both duly noted.

My basic point still stands. A reference to a Jew is not automatically an indication that Jews are being targeted, and it says a great deal about the kind of mindset that has developed in the post-Holocaust era which makes the merest reference to anything of Jewish origin into a cause for some people to hit the panic button.

Never mind the debate about whether people have a right not to be offended. They certainly do not, in my book, have the right to not be offended by things that weren't even about the alleged ground of offence.

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Evensong
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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:


My basic point still stands. A reference to a Jew is not automatically an indication that Jews are being targeted, and it says a great deal about the kind of mindset that has developed in the post-Holocaust era which makes the merest reference to anything of Jewish origin into a cause for some people to hit the panic button.

I personally saw the racism and bigotry as directed towards Christians, not Jews.

He was having a fun time taking the piss of the religious before that in the women bishops thread. That line was just the icing on the religious cake.

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IntellectByProxy

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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
I thought it was so obvious that it didn't need saying, but apparently it DOES need saying.

You're assuming a minimum level of reading comprehension.

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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
[QUOTE] They certainly do not, in my book, have the right to not be offended by things that weren't even about the alleged ground of offence.

That's your book - others read from a different library like the good post moderns we are.

What, for Rook is truth dressed up as a so called tongue in cheek dig at Christianity, is, for others, offensive, racist and bigoted and they reserve the right to believe and/or respond in that manner.

Who knows? IRL Rook is probably kind to animals, actually likes his parents and goes to church every week? On line he comes across on occasion as someone who is a pseudo troll, delighting in the wind up not the debate. His responses are classically symptomatic of the bully.

[ 30. November 2012, 13:38: Message edited by: ExclamationMark ]

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Are you suggesting RooK should not dig at Christianity because you can't take the heat or because Christianity can't take the heat?
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quote:
Originally posted by IntellectByProxy:
quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
I thought it was so obvious that it didn't need saying, but apparently it DOES need saying.

You're assuming a minimum level of reading comprehension.
Exactly.

IMO, as a former believer, RooK's pokes at Christianity are refreshing. I lurked for some time before joining SoF, including while devotedly attending to assorted church duties and swallowing the Party Line whole.

Even then, I found RooK's pokes not only funny, but also educational and thought-provoking. It's useful to be reminded occasionally of just how ludicrous Christian mythology -- oh, excuse me, the Truth -- can appear to those outside the Fold.

If you're within that Fold, it's very valuable to know what you're up again when attempting to evangelize those from beyond the pale, where RooK has staked his personal tent.

Think of "jew-on-a-stick" as a teachable moment for yourself, and unravel that knot in your knickers.

[ 30. November 2012, 14:03: Message edited by: Porridge ]

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Firenze

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Porridge is correct.

Just now and again I am maddened into actually saying how daft/arrogant/weird/intolerant etc a Christian viewpoint appears to me, from my preferred philosophy. I don't have Rook's turn for picturesque derision, so it probably escapes notice.

But really, you should see yourselves sometimes.

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For fuck's sake, get over your selves. Do you want the return and enforcement of the old blasphemy laws? I realize that our precious new hate speech laws are just the blasphemy laws suited up for the secular humanist religion, but do you really want to go down the words-hurt road on the ship?

Besides, when RooK is in his best, bullying, dead-jew-on-a-stick form, that's when he's at his cuddliest.

Just learn to feel the love, dammit.

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Personally I can't think of many other situations where taking the piss out of somebody for being tortured to death is considered funny. I don't see how the fact that it is Jesus being referenced makes it OK. I am really at a loss.
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I hear Hell exists for the purpose of expressing these feelings and then hugging it out with people who share them.

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'Slugging it out', shurely?

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Who knows? IRL Rook is probably kind to animals...
I have a vague recollection that RooK once rushed a mouse to an emergency vet. The Denizens treasured that one. [Snigger]

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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I'm less interested in opinions of Rook than I am in the contents of the phrase and its interpretation. I happened to go to a university meeting this morning, with a particularly dim-witted group, much like me, all PhDs. The phrase had not occurred to any of them, and one of the group saw the possible humourous intent, no-one thought it amusing, and all thought that if would be the matter of a hearing if it came up in a university context. In some parts of the world, by particularly stupidly educated people it is immediately seem as anti-semitic. It is understood that the ship's choir doesn't care.
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Originally posted by IntellectByProxy:
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
I find the phrase offensive.

But it is a reasonably accurate description, no?
Actually, no, it isn't.

1. He wasn't dead when he instituted the Eucharist.

2. He isn't dead now.

3. The phrase "dead Jew on a stick" is, in the most charitable interpretation possible, an oversimplification of the redemptive act.

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Marvin the Martian

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Originally posted by no prophet:
Humour or intent is both within the mind of the person posting and the person reading.

Yes, we realise that some readers are going to be utterly stupid and unable to discern the meaning of anything more complex than "the cat sat on the mat". That's hardly our fault though.

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It took two trials to find David Ahenakew not guilty of hate speech in Canada for hate speech about Jews.
If you can't tell the difference between someone calling Jews a "disease" and someone describing in a humorously precise way what the Eucharistic Feast is then that's hardly our fault either.

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I suggest more care in what is posted that might attract such legal attention. We've seen care taken to limit possible exposure of the ship to legal action. I think you're damn close here, at least within Canadian law, and I would like to be certain before we simply laugh it all off.
FYI, we take threats of legal action against the Ship very seriously. Even when they're couched in terms of "I'd never dream of doing this, oh no, but wouldn't it be terrible if someone did..."

What was said is not against any Ship guideline, and it is not antisemitic by any reasonable definition of that term.

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It appear anti-semitic to me.
Then you're wrong. Others have already explained very clearly why, and if you haven't got it yet I don't see why I should bother trying to explain again.

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The Styx is for the discussion of Ship’s business. Discussing whether or not such a remark is appropriate for a Crew Member posting on a board where pretty much anything goes along as it’s not illegal in a private capacity is within scope if you stretch a point. But such a discussion would work better as a Hell call.

As this is the Styx, please stick to discussing the behaviour, not the person. The 10 Commandments apply in the Styx and personal attacks are not permitted. If you want to make accusations of trolling or describe another poster as an “insensitive dick”, then Hell is a few boards down.

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Marvin the Martian

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Originally posted by no prophet:
In some parts of the world, by particularly stupidly educated people it is immediately seem as anti-semitic.

Your initial reaction was that RooK was "advocat[ing] killing Jews in the Hell forum and putting their bodies on sticks like popiscles". If that utterly inaccurate bastardisation of what was actually said is how you presented it to your university colleagues I'm sure they would find it antisemitic.

If, on the other hand, you gave them the actual comment in its actual context, then I'd have to agree that they're pretty damn stupid.

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