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Thread: Papal name game
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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Simple rule: propose the papal name the next pope will take. Whoever posts the correct name first on this thread, wins this game.
Only one guess per punter: if you change your mind and post a new guess on the thread, your previous guess is freed up for someone else to take. Be courteous and point out if this is the case.
(Where a papal name has been used before, see the list here, the correct Roman numeral must be added! If we have pope "Anastasius V" and you guessed "Anastasius", it will not count as a win; and if somebody else said "Anastasius V" after you, they win. The game is to guess the correct papal name.)
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As my guess, I propose Pope Leo XIV.
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Doublethink.
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I propose Boniface X
I assume you can guess why ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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I'm going with Hilarius II . The church could use some lightening up.
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Pigwidgeon
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Gregory XVII -- I have no idea why.
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Robertus Liverpolitanae
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John XXIV
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Stephen X
I would love for the next pope to call himself Innocent, but that would be too inviting.....
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Firenze
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Clement XV
[ 23. February 2013, 14:40: Message edited by: Firenze ]
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Pope Francis as it would be a change.
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Ariston
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There's already a thread pretty much exactly like this one in Heaven right now, and, since it's pretty much established at this point, I think it has Threadly Primacy. My powers to bind and unbind may not work in Heaven, but they do here.
Thread CLOSED
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Ariston
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So it seems there's been a conclave, and this thread got elected re-Popened. And so it is.
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Doublethink.
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My logic for Boniface is that the last pope to follow a resignee was called Boniface. Cons being he was roundly accused of simony, pros being he was very important in the development of cannon law.
[ 24. February 2013, 14:50: Message edited by: Doublethink ]
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Firenze
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Splendid. I am quietly confident of a Clementine succession (what you might call the orange order).
I will get on with scanning the cardinalate to decide on my hot date.
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Nicolemr
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John Paul III.
You never know...
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Dal Segno
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Benedict XVII
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Ariston
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quote:
Originally posted by Doublethink:
My logic for Boniface is that the last pope to follow a resignee was called Boniface. Cons being he was roundly accused of simony, pros being he was very important in the development of cannon law.
That sounds like the infamous Boniface VIII; however, about a century later, there was a Boniface IX, who wasn't any better. I think the name may be cursed.
Oh, and much as I may love Augustine, history and Paddy Power tell me not to bet on it. How about, oh, Innocent XIV? John Paul is currently a name reserved for one person alone, Benedict was just used, John and Paul are associated with the Popes of Vatican II, which a politically conscious pope would realize is still a bit of a political issue, leaving us with Leo (taken), Gregory (Ditto), Pius (also taken, and controversial), Clement (see above), and Innocent. I'm going with the most recently used of the likely choices that's still available. Not the one I think most likely (that'd be Leo or Gregory), but so it goes.
[ 24. February 2013, 21:08: Message edited by: Ariston ]
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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Just a brief reminder that you need to lock in those Roman numerals. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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balaam
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Victor IV, for reasons on the other thread.
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Chorister
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Pope Ariston, because he's such a softie and gave in. ![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif)
But the serious suggestion, as on the other thread, is Alexander IX.
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Ariston
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quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:
Just a brief reminder that you need to lock in those Roman numerals.
Forget that, I'm just going to sticky this thread and wait until I win!
Duly edited—make mine Innocent XIV
(Man, all these pope threads mean I have all the Wikipedia lists of papal names and popes by dates on speed dial. Really, if anyone wants to play pontifical trivia, just know that, at this point, you won't win)
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jedijudy
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OK, I'll play!
Lando II. Just because!
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Trisagion
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quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
Pope Pius X111
God, I bloody hope so, but more likely Leo XIV
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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quote:
Originally posted by Trisagion:
quote:
Originally posted by Boogie:
Pope Pius X111
God, I bloody hope so, but more likely Leo XIV
Trisagion, I already booked Leo XIV in the OP... If you want to play, you have to pick a different name.
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Jon in the Nati
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While I don't think it will be, I'd like to see Adrian. Adrian VII. It is a good strong name, and recognizable to modern ears. But it is also old enough that it doesn't come with a ton of baggage.
Julius IV wouldn't be bad either. I'm also partial to Felix, but there would be issues with numbering because two of the five popes with that name are now considered antipopes; could be awkward.
Someone upthread said Victor; that would be good too.
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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For convenience, here's the list so far:
- Adrian VII - Jon in the Nati
- Alexander IX - Chorister
- Benedict XVII - Dal Segno
- Boniface X - Doublethink
- Clement XV - Firenze
- Francis - Net Spinster
- Gregory XVII - Pigwidgeon
- Hilarius II - Lymasa
- Innocent XIV - Ariston
- John XXIV - Robertus Liverpolitanae
- John Paul III - Nicolemr
- Lando II - jedijudy
- Leo XIV - IngoB
- Pius XIII - Boogie
- Stephen X - Schroedinger's cat
- Victor IV - balaam
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Zachary II
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Piglet
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
... a Clementine succession (what you might call the orange order) ...
![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif) We'll have No Popery Here!
Being frivolous, I'm going with Sixtus VI (although I don't fancy trying to say it).
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Uncle Pete
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Anastasius V
I like the name and IV seemed a good egg.
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Mary LA
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Martin VI
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Boogie
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quote:
Originally posted by Left at the Altar:
Trevor I
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Chorister
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Well if there are bishops named Trevor, I don't see why there can't be a Pope.
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Trisagion
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quote:
Originally posted by piglet:
We'll have No Popery Here!
Or the more less strident more North Down version: No Pot Pouri.
I wasn't playing, IngoB, merely expressing a preference. Your remark has spurred me into choosing a name: Urban IX
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Trisagion
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Sorry for the double-post, but in view of BXVI's almost unprecedented abdication, I'll change my pick to Celestine VI
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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Having just listened carefully to the habemus papam of John Paul I, I note that LatA is correct and it would indeed be "Pope Trevor I" and not just "Pope Trevor".
Given that this is not obvious, and given that the Wikipedia list I posted in the OP misleadingly does not list the "I" numeral for the first usage of a name, I think we should relax the "exact Roman numeral" requirement for new names only.
However, to LatA for getting it right.
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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I've just noticed that in composite names with "John", "John" has to come first or the name sucks. I have no idea why though. Psycho-linguists to the rescue?
Anyway, entries up to this point:
- Adrian VII - Jon in the Nati
- Alexander IX - Chorister
- Anastasius V - PeteC
- Benedict XVII - Dal Segno
- Boniface X - Doublethink
- Celestine VI - Trisagion
- Clement XV - Firenze
- Francis I - Net Spinster
- Gregory XVII - Pigwidgeon
- Hilarius II - Lymasa
- Innocent XIV - Ariston
- John XXIV - Robertus Liverpolitanae
- John Benedict I - agingjb
- John Paul III - Nicolemr
- Julius IV - Heavenly Anarchist
- Lando II - jedijudy
- Leo XIV - IngoB
- Martin VI - Mary LA
- Paul VII - Gwai
- Pius XIII - Boogie
- Sixtus VI - piglet
- Stephen X - Schroedinger's cat
- Trevor I - Left at the Altar
- Victor IV - balaam
- Zachary II - ebeth
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Adeodatus
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quote:
Originally posted by agingjb:
Another, and new, double name?
John Benedict I
Or even John Paul Benedict I? Or John Paul George Ringo I?
That's the trouble, there are so many unfortunate names. Innocent and Pius would get sniggers from cynical English-speakers. The only Alexander anybody really knows of is the less than saintly Alexander VI. Sadly Adeodatus is unlikely - people would be saying, "Who does he think he is? God's gift?" Adrian VII might be seen as a reference to the rather louche novel by Frederick Rolfe. And so on and so on.
Since he'll be starting his reign near Easter, I'll go for Paschal III. (There was an antipope Paschal III. What do antipopes do to the numbering of the genuine article?)
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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quote:
Originally posted by Adeodatus:
Since he'll be starting his reign near Easter, I'll go for Paschal III. (There was an antipope Paschal III. What do antipopes do to the numbering of the genuine article?)
I think that in general antipopes (or indeed, imaginary popes...) are ignored in the numbering, if this is possible. Thus Antipope Benedict XIII does not hinder Pope Benedict XIII. However, the correct Roman numeral is always determined by the last real pope of the same name. Thus Pope John XXI skipped "John XX" believing that there was a bookkeeping error that missed out on a pope, and thereby in fact committed a bookkeeping error himself. But counting then continued with "John XXII" (correct as per "John XXI", even if incorrect concerning the entire series of "Johns").
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Ariel
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# 58
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I'm going to go for Marcellus III.
This is on the theory that Cardinal Marc Ouellet is a frontrunner in the papal stakes, and may even want to keep his own name, or some variant thereof.
I may change my mind about this over the course of the next couple of weeks...
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Pigwidgeon
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IngoB, have you said what the prize will be? I'm assuming it will be round-trip airfare, lodging, and front row seats for the enthronement.
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An die Freude
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Hmm. Given the relative likelihood of there being a candidate of African origin who takes it, I could see Pope Augustine I happening.
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Lyda*Rose
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Since most of the more likely names are taken, I'm going the sentimental route and choosing Pope Martin Philip I for two of my favorite saints- St. Martin de Porres and St. Philip Neri.
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ChaliceGirl
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Are their any popes named Peter since St. Peter (the first Pope?)
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Pigwidgeon
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quote:
Originally posted by ChaliceGirl:
Are their any popes named Peter since St. Peter (the first Pope?)
Nope.
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Earwig
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Well, if Trisaigon's not using it, I'll nab [B]Urban IX/B]. I've always thought Urban is a nice name.
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Earwig
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Ugh. Bad coding, sorry, should be Urban IX.
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