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| Gill H 
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 |  Posted         Calon Lan was mentioned upthread.  Welsh singer Mal Pope used it for 'What a friend we have in Jesus' on one of his albums and I rather like it.
 
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| Chorister 
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 |  Posted           This weekend, I heard for the first time a hymn specially written for a Ruby Wedding anniversary.  The words were lovely - most suitable for the occasion and also for any wedding ceremony.  The tune was 'Drink to me only with thine eyes' which I thought was most appropriate for a wedding theme - one where the association would be well known.
 
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| Metapelagius Shipmate
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 quote:In general, yes.  The Scottish Psalter has CM versions of all the psalms, and alternatives of some in other metres.  Where there is such an alternative it is in my experience the one with which congregations will be familiar - e.g. Pss. 25, 67 (SM); 100 (LM); 124 (10's); 136, 148 (HM).Originally posted by Enoch:
 It's further back than Handel. The Old Hundredth has been linked, as it still is, to Sternhold and Hopkins's version of the Jubilate since at least the seventeenth century, and I suspect the sixteenth. Their version of Psalm 50 is in a peculiar metre, with a tune that would fit nothing else. Be that as it may, though, a large proportion of their psalms are in standard metres with interchangeable tunes.
 
 
 Similarly Hopkins's own version of Psalm 100 is CM, but the Old Version also includes as an alternative William Kethe's version (though the ascription has been questioned), LM, and now always associated with the 'Old 100th'.  But the tune isn't what it might seem - it is in fact the Genevan tune to Psalm 134.  With regard to Psalm 50 the OV again has a version by Hopkins himself which is SM, in addition to the Whittingham version which is in the same metre as the French version in the Genevan psalter, so that it fits the Genevan tune.  (Whittingham had been exiled in Geneva during the reign of Mary, and was married to Calvin's sister.) The Old 50th is a good tune, but not easy to sing - the one time I came across it the congregation was making very heavy weather of it.
 
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| Enoch Shipmate
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 quote:I envy you. I've wondered how it's supposed to be sung. I can't work out how to fit the words and the tune together for the last two lines of each verse.Originally posted by Metapelagius:
 ... The Old 50th is a good tune, but not easy to sing - the one time I came across it the congregation was making very heavy weather of it.
 
 
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| pererin Shipmate
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 quote:If you've got Hymns Ancient and Modern (the really really old one, with the blue cover), it's number 660 in there. Otherwise, here goes with a very unclear explanation (taking it as being in 4/2):Originally posted by Enoch:
 
 quote:I envy you. I've wondered how it's supposed to be sung. I can't work out how to fit the words and the tune together for the last two lines of each verse.Originally posted by Metapelagius:
 ... The Old 50th is a good tune, but not easy to sing - the one time I came across it the congregation was making very heavy weather of it.
 
 
 - in line 4, the eighth syllable is slurred over three minims fa-la-so (this may be where you're getting lost)
 - line 5 should be straightforward -- maybe the Alto part moving on the fourth syllable is catching your ear?
 - line 6 is mainly a matter of counting: the first five syllables are all semibreves, much though one will want to press on through the text faster! Then then eighth syllable is slurred over two crotchets so-fa.
 
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| venbede Shipmate
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 |  Posted           I must admit "Almighty Father Unoriginate" is a new one on me, but it might catch on again.
 
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| pererin Shipmate
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 quote:LOL!Originally posted by venbede:
 I must admit "Almighty Father Unoriginate" is a new one on me, but it might catch on again.
 
 ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) I don't think there can be any quibble with the revisers' leaving that one out. The tune really should have been moved to "And now, O Father, mindful of the love", but that one already had two tunes. There are really too many good tunes for how many good lyrics there are in 10.10T, and that's even with A&M lacking FFIGYSBREN and BRO ABER (and FINLANDIA, although that is more 4.6's than 10's). 
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| Enoch Shipmate
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 |  Posted           Yebbut, that version has been tinkered with. The original is 10,10,10,10, 11,11. It has extra notes at the end of the fifth line and fairly near the beginning of the sixth.
 
 Also, in an older  version I've got that goes with the original words, line 4 is slightly different and more straightforward. It looks as though there was originally an extra note in the earlier part of the line, and the slurred bit you mention has been compounded out of gracing notes that previously went with individual syllables.
 
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| Mudfrog Shipmate
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 |  Posted           The salvation Army has a lovely holiness hymn that goes to the tune of 'Drink to me Only with Thine Eyes':
 
 THERE is a holy hill of God,
 Its heights by faith I see;
 Now to ascend my soul aspires,
 To leave earth’s vanity.
 
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 William Drake Pennick (1884-1944)
 
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| seasick 
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 You should be well aware by now of the Ship's copyright policy. We do not allow any more than two verses at most of any hymn or song to be quoted in case of copyright violation. It is always preferable to link to content quoted elsewhere.
 
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| Mudfrog Shipmate
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 quote:Oooops, sorryOriginally posted by seasick:
 Mudfrog,
 
 You should be well aware by now of the Ship's copyright policy. We do not allow any more than two verses at most of any hymn or song to be quoted in case of copyright violation. It is always preferable to link to content quoted elsewhere.
 
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| L'organist Shipmate
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 |  Posted             I've allowed 24 hours to pass to see if the idea of singing any words to the tune of  Drink to me only in church would add to the gaiety of life. Answer - NO.
 
 Tried the idea on the more musical members of my choir - their reactions split more or less 50:50 between
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| Mudfrog Shipmate
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 quote:You don't like the Salvation Army song then?Originally posted by L'organist:
 I've allowed 24 hours to pass to see if the idea of singing any words to the tune of  Drink to me only in church would add to the gaiety of life. Answer - NO.
 
 Tried the idea on the more musical members of my choir - their reactions split more or less 50:50 between
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| Aggie Ship's cat
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 |  Posted           I once attended a church where "Hail the day that sees him rise" was sung to a a very pretty tune called Chislehurst, rather than the usual Llanfair.
 
 When it is sung to Chislehurst, the Alleluias at the end of each line are omitted, and instead they are sung four times at the end of each verse.
 
 I am not aware of any other churches that use this tune for this hymn, although it is listed in the New English Hymnal.  I have looked on youtube to see if I could find it, but alas it seems that most directors of music prefer to sing "Hail the day that sees him rise" to Llanfair.
 
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| venbede Shipmate
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 |  Posted           I sung "Hail the day that sees him rise" to Chiselhurst once on Ascension Day at St Alban's Holborn.  We had a music copy of NEH (top line only).
 
 It is a nice change, isn't it?
 
 I rather like singing hymns to new tunes or at least tunes I don't usually hear.
 
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| Offeiriad 
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 |  Posted           I love 'Chislehurst' (both the tune, and as the place I went to school!). Presumably it was written when the SECM (as was then) was based there prior to the move to Addington Palace?
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| Aggie Ship's cat
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 quote:Was this during Michael Fleming's time as Director of Music?  I understand he was quite fond of this tune, as I think he knew its composer, Sydney Nicholson.Originally posted by venbede:
 I sung "Hail the day that sees him rise" to Chiselhurst once on Ascension Day at St Alban's Holborn.  We had a music copy of NEH (top line only).
 
 
 
 
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| venbede Shipmate
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 |  Posted           There's a stained glass window to Michael Fleming in St Michael's Croydon with the notes of "To God all praise and glory" at the bottom of the window (Gregory the Great - chant don't yer know? - with Canterbury Cathedral at the top).
 
 Actually, there is an "alleluia" at the end of lines one and two of Chishelhurst and then three at the end of line four.
 
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| Albertus Shipmate
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 quote:On a tangent, are you a Chis & Sid old boy, then? Good school.Originally posted by Oferyas:
 I love 'Chislehurst' (both the tune, and as the place I went to school!). Presumably it was written when the SECM (as was then) was based there prior to the move to Addington Palace?
 
 
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| Aggie Ship's cat
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 quote:"To God all praise and glory" is the refrain in the hymn "Sing Praise to God Who reigns above", Michael Fleming wrote the tune "Palace Green" for this hymn.Originally posted by venbede:
 There's a stained glass window to Michael Fleming in St Michael's Croydon with the notes of "To God all praise and glory" at the bottom of the window (Gregory the Great - chant don't yer know? - with Canterbury Cathedral at the top).
 
 Actually, there is an "alleluia" at the end of lines one and two of Chishelhurst and then three at the end of line four.
 
 
 And yes, you are quite right about the "alleluias" in the Chislehurst tune.  I haven't heard it for so long, I'd forgotten exactly how it goes.
 
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| venbede Shipmate
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 |  Posted           And St Michael's duly sang All praise to God on Easter Day.  (Michael Fleming was director of music there.)
 
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| Wild Organist Apprentice
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 |  Posted           Anyone tried "While Shepherds Watched" to House of the Rising Sun? (Oh, how I'd love to see the faces of the congregation as it dawned on them...
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| Amos 
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 |  Posted         IMO 'The House of the Rising Sun,' goes better with 'Amazing Grace.'
 
 You've prompted me, though, to try singing 'While Shepherds Watched' to the Mickey Mouse Theme.
 
 If any of the UK Shipmates saw a bit of the BBC4 programme last night on the great English murder, they will have heard 'Kingsfold' as the tune of one of the ballads about Maria Marten and the Red Barn Murder.
 
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| venbede Shipmate
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| venbede Shipmate
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 |  Posted           Come to think of it, in Vaughan William's ballad opera  Hugh the Drover, there is one point where a character sings the opening lines of  Maria Marten and they do so to the tune RVW named Kingsfold in English Hymnal.
 
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| Enoch Shipmate
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 |  Posted           The House of the Rising Sun is Common Metre. So it ought to fit.  Both 'While Shepherds watched' and 'Amazing Grace' are Common Metre. Kingsfold is Double Common Metre.
 
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| Amos 
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 quote:Absolutely! I (being unacquainted with 'Hugh the Drover') wasn't previously aware, though, that it was the tune to the murder ballad.Originally posted by venbede:
 Kingsfold was a folk tune before RVW took it over as a hymn tune (and a fine one it is).
 
 
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| Gwalchmai Shipmate
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 |  Posted       Does anybody else remember a group called the Mastersingers in the 1960s (when I was lad) who recorded part of the Highway Code and the weather forecast to Anglican psalm chants? The Weather Forecast was played on Radio 3 Breakfast a couple of weeks or so ago.
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| L'organist Shipmate
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 They weren't the Mastersingers, they were  The King's Singers .  The Highway Code and Shipping/Weather Forecast were on an EP (!) and I still have a copy.
 
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| Pearl B4 Swine Ship's Oyster-Shucker
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 |  Posted           Yes.  I do.  Way back then, one of my basses brought the tape to rehearsal, and we all were on the floor laughing.  We listened about a dozen times.   The weather forecast
 
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| Jonah the Whale 
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 quote:Actually "There is a green hill" was played to that tune by a Christian rock band at some festival back in th early seventies when that kind of thing was fresh and exciting. That was part of the path, I think, which led my sister to faith and so indirectly me too. The Lord moves in mysterious ways.Originally posted by Wild Organist:
 Anyone tried "While Shepherds Watched" to House of the Rising Sun? (Oh, how I'd love to see the faces of the congregation as it dawned on them...
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 I seem to remember hearing "I know that my redeemer lives" to the tune of BBC's Match of the Day at an all-age worship service. My brain has mercifully deleted exactly how it went.
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| L'organist Shipmate
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| venbede Shipmate
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 |  Posted           Hang on.  They are called Mastersingers on Youtube.
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qngi_jSaXlI
 
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| AndyB Shipmate
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 quote:It is also a variant on the Star of the County Down.Originally posted by Amos:
 
 quote:Absolutely! I (being unacquainted with 'Hugh the Drover') wasn't previously aware, though, that it was the tune to the murder ballad.Originally posted by venbede:
 Kingsfold was a folk tune before RVW took it over as a hymn tune (and a fine one it is).
 
 
 
 The Weather Forecast and the Highway Code were indeed by the Master Singers.
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| L'organist Shipmate
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 They may be called The Mastersingers on YouTube but I suspect that is because the person who uploaded it either doesn't have the original EP or can't read ... the sound is definitely The Kings Singers.
 
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| Gill H 
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 |  Posted         I have the EP also and it does say the Mastersingers on it.  The mystery deepens.
 
 It really does sound like the King's Singers, but were they around at that time?
 
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| Chorister 
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| AndyB Shipmate
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 |  Posted             As those who have the EP can confirm, it was definitely the Mastersingers, none of whom were ever in the King's Singers.  That they sound similar is no coincidence - one rather expects that with a male voice chamber ensemble, but the other clue is that there are precisely four voices in the Mastersingers, but there have always been six in the King's Singers.
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 quote:The Salvation Army had a pop group in the mid '60s.  It was called the Joystrings.  Seeing that they were contemporary to The Animals, what do you think of  THIS ?Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
 
 quote:Actually "There is a green hill" was played to that tune by a Christian rock band at some festival back in th early seventies when that kind of thing was fresh and exciting. That was part of the path, I think, which led my sister to faith and so indirectly me too. The Lord moves in mysterious ways.Originally posted by Wild Organist:
 Anyone tried "While Shepherds Watched" to House of the Rising Sun? (Oh, how I'd love to see the faces of the congregation as it dawned on them...
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 I seem to remember hearing "I know that my redeemer lives" to the tune of BBC's Match of the Day at an all-age worship service. My brain has mercifully deleted exactly how it went.
 
 
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 quote:Two points.Originally posted by Mudfrog:
 I seem to remember hearing "I know that my redeemer lives" to the tune of BBC's Match of the Day at an all-age worship service. My brain has mercifully deleted exactly how it went.
 
 
 1. There have been two MOTD tunes - which one?
 
 2. My wife is Scottish. Many years ago she was helping at a Children's Mission where the (English) leader introduced a song to the MOTD tune. It went down like a lead balloon as they don't have MOTD in Scotland but a different programme.
 
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 quote:Two points.Originally posted by Mudfrog:
 I seem to remember hearing "I know that my redeemer lives" to the tune of BBC's Match of the Day at an all-age worship service. My brain has mercifully deleted exactly how it went.
 
 
 1. There have been two MOTD tunes - which one?
 
 2. My wife is Scottish. Many years ago she was helping at a Children's Mission where the (English) leader introduced a song to the MOTD tune. It went down like a lead balloon as they don't have MOTD in Scotland but a different programme.
 
 
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| Jonah the Whale 
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 According to Wikipedia the current theme tune to MotD was written in 1970. Although I was born before 1970 it was broadcast after my bedtime so I can't remember the earlier one.
 
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| L'organist Shipmate
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| pererin Shipmate
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 quote:I suspect it's probably the Jessie B. Pounds ("Hope's Messenger", 1893) version of modern rubbish.Originally posted by L'organist:
 If its the tune from 1970 then  I know that my redeemer liveth  won't fit. (I assume you mean the Jennens words as used by Handel, not some more modern bowdlerised rubbish?)
 
 ![[Smile]](smile.gif) The words would vaguely fit then. 
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 "They go to and fro in the evening, they grin like a dog, and run about through the city." (Psalm 59.6)
 
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| Gwalchmai Shipmate
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 |  Posted       Today, the Feast of St Michael & All Angels, we sang "It came upon a midnight clear." My first reaction, on looking up the hymns in the book before the service started, was why are we singing Christmas carols in September? But on reflection, the words of "It came upon a midnight clear" are mostly about angels and very little about Christmas, so it was an appropriate hymn to sing.
 
 Are there any other hymns which are firmly associated with a particular season, but might be appropriate for some other time of the year?
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| L'organist Shipmate
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 |  Posted             Gwalchmai: blame (1) the compilers of the NEH which has  Midnight Clear in its list of Also suitables at the end of the section for Michaelmas and (2) the RSCM which suggested it some years ago (may even have done this year, I haven't bothered to look).
 
 As for hymns suitable at other seasons:  Be thou my guardian and my guide  is now listed as being for Lent, but used to be under General and is indeed suitable at any time.
 
 Otherwise:  Lift high the cross always seems to me perfect for Easter, although it isn't categorised as such...
 
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