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Albertus
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A thread about suggestions that people save water by pissing in the shower has been booted out of heaven as being too revolting.
I imagine a lot of us have a 'yuk' reaction to the idea, and it's not as enjoyable a way of saving water as bathing with a friend, but is there anything actually necessarily wrong with the idea, assuming that you have a reasonably efficient shower and drain?
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Amir Emrra
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I do it all the time. Isn't it a standard bloke thing? It's no more unhygienic that the crud from washing fore and aft. I do try and aim straight for the plughole though - a bit of morning entertainment.
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I think it is reasonably well known that a fair few people do this anyway. But in the interests of debate I shall post a poll.
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It is common in Canada, when in the countryside, which means something far less settled with people than many other places, to pee outside. We are shortly to drive several hours to our cabin, and undoubtedly we shall see cars on the side of the road with someone peeing into the ditch. When the next town and facilities might be up to an hour away, you do what you have to do.
At the cabin, the toilet rules are as they are anywhere your pay for septic pump out of the sewage, "if it's yellow, let it mellow, if it's brown, flush it down". It's also common to ask if it is okay to flush toilet paper or if it is to be garbaged instead. In such a context, it is the most reasonable thing, to pee in the shower. One should also turn the shower off ar very much down to trickle whilst lathering up yourself.
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I bought a shewee for camping purposes, so I tried to use it in the shower in order to have the technique down before using it in anger. But I found I was just too strongly conditioned not to pee standing.
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
I think it is reasonably well known that a fair few people do this anyway. But in the interests of debate I shall post a poll.
Currently, the majority of respondents regularly pee in the shower. Which suggests the go with the flow campaign maybe over estimating the potential water savings.
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
I bought a shewee for camping purposes, so I tried to use it in the shower in order to have the technique down before using it in anger. But I found I was just too strongly conditioned not to pee standing.
The women in my family (I am the only boy) don't use gadgets, including in winter.
This is not about peeing, peeing is included, and is a worthy book: How to Shit in the Woods. I have a copy and have given it also as a gift.
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Seems like an increasing metaphor for life to me.
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Peeing in the shower to save water? I think that is a rather dubious proposal. Probably you'll have people showering longer while they relieve themselves, and then squirting gallons of water on behind to make sure the piss has been adequately flushed.
I would want to see their calculations and assumptions before I even consider it.
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If I get in the shower, then have to pee, I'm more likely to just go in the shower than to get out of the shower, get all cold, drip water all over the bathroom and have the wife yell at me, and then have to get back in the shower. I once tried to pee from the shower into the toilet, but realized I don't have that kind of marksmanship.
I've never done it to save water.
PS, folks, if you've ever wondered about just how completely human and normal your priest or pastor is, you've just heard a priest talking about weeing in the shower. Mazel tov.
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Martin60
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I'm more likely, at the weekend, to pee in a chipped old mug of London town kept outside, in the utility room, add water to taste, if not lime cordial, and feed it to Olive. She thrives on it. I've got olives!
Otherwise why would one WAIT to pee in the shower?
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In the next hour, reports on the shocking habits of bears in the woods.
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RuthW
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Originally posted by molopata:
Peeing in the shower to save water? I think that is a rather dubious proposal. Probably you'll have people showering longer while they relieve themselves, and then squirting gallons of water on behind to make sure the piss has been adequately flushed.
I would want to see their calculations and assumptions before I even consider it.
My apartment has an old standard toilet that uses about 3.5 gallons of water per flush. I pee in the shower on weekday mornings, which adds up to a savings of about 910 gallons of water a year. For those of us without low-flow toilets, peeing in the shower is a good idea here in southern California, where we are going into what looks to be a fourth year of drought.
It doesn't lengthen my showers, and I don't worry about being clean, as urine is sterile when it leaves the body.
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Originally posted by Amir Emrra:
I do it all the time. Isn't it a standard bloke thing? It's no more unhygienic that the crud from washing fore and aft. I do try and aim straight for the plughole though - a bit of morning entertainment.
Even more entertaining if you are female. I have a good aim too ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Of course you don't need to flush the loo for every wee, so long as you leave the lid down.
"If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down" is the rule in our house.
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Originally posted by Boogie:
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Originally posted by Amir Emrra:
I do it all the time. Isn't it a standard bloke thing? It's no more unhygienic that the crud from washing fore and aft. I do try and aim straight for the plughole though - a bit of morning entertainment.
Even more entertaining if you are female. I have a good aim too
Of course you don't need to flush the loo for every wee, so long as you leave the lid down.
"If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down" is the rule in our house.
Yes on the female, yes on the peeing in the shower, and yes on the toilet rule. I really don't see what the big deal is - but then I have small children and seem to be up to my elbows in bodily excreta of some kind or another much of the time, so perhaps I've become immune. Having said that, I was living in the UK during the ?first, or second, maybe? big brother series - the one in which Alex admitted to peeing in the shower and became the nation's pariah for a month or so - and I couldn't see what the big deal was then either...
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Doublethink.
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If our poll is in any way representative, (big if), then over half the population already do this. I suspect anyone willing has already crossed this bridge.
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Originally posted by Jack the Lass:
I assume that the renewed interest in this as a topic is down to this news story.
It's the story that provoked my original thread that was evicted as being too distasteful for the Heaven Board.
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What, these kiddies think they're on to something new? Sigh.
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ChastMastr
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Originally posted by Albertus:
A thread about suggestions that people save water by pissing in the shower has been booted out of heaven as being too revolting.
I imagine a lot of us have a 'yuk' reaction to the idea, and it's not as enjoyable a way of saving water as bathing with a friend
Not, of course, that those need be mutually exclusive...
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Dennis the Menace
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I've been peeing in the shower since goodness knows when. I don't do it in communal situations such as beach change rooms or open shower at the beach or shared showers at work places etc. I don't do it to save water it seems to happen naturally!!
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Jack o' the Green
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I always pee in the shower. Well, not always. If I'm not having a shower at the time, I use the toilet. I don't just open the cubicle doors and try to hit the back wall. If you don't have a urinary tract infection, then urine is aseptic. It has some great antifungal properties. Athletes Foot? No problem. Just soak your feet in a bowel of fresh urine.
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I was about to make a crack about Janet Leigh.
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itsarumdo
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yes - it just happens
and yes it is great for athlete's foot.
I honestly just don't get the people who are grossed out by it - they must do sex with rubber suits in to prevent contact with body fluids
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Jack o' the Green
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Hmm, yes, that's why I wear them. For hygiene, um, yes, absolutely.
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Doublethink.
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Oddly enough, the poll suggests more shippies piss in the shower than shag in it.
I imagine doing both may spoil the mood ...
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Sink, shower, window. Sometimes you just got to go.
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Originally posted by itsarumdo:
yes - it just happens
and yes it is great for athlete's foot.
I honestly just don't get the people who are grossed out by it - they must do sex with rubber suits in to prevent contact with body fluids
Depends on the fluids! Unless you like a Golden Shower...
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Doublethink.
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I suppose my objection to the practice is:
a) urine is only sterile when it is fresh and I have some doubts to what extent urine splashes or fine spray end up on the shower stall and become breeding grounds for hideousness.
b) urine is *usually* sterile, but sometimes it is not and if you have a uti or ebola or whatever - being in this habit will not be helpful.
So, for example, if you do have athlete's foot and a minor uti - you don't want the uti bacteria getting into your feet through the broken skin between your toes.
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Jack o' the Green
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Living alone, I guess I go with the dictum, "My shower, my rules."
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itsarumdo
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Originally posted by Doublethink.:
I suppose my objection to the practice is:
a) urine is only sterile when it is fresh and I have some doubts to what extent urine splashes or fine spray end up on the shower stall and become breeding grounds for hideousness.
b) urine is *usually* sterile, but sometimes it is not and if you have a uti or ebola or whatever - being in this habit will not be helpful.
So, for example, if you do have athlete's foot and a minor uti - you don't want the uti bacteria getting into your feet through the broken skin between your toes.
from wiki ... quote:
Due to the fact that urea in urine breaks down into ammonia, urine has been used for the cleaning properties of the ammonia therein. In pre-industrial times urine was used – in the form of lant or aged urine – as a cleaning fluid.[31] Urine was also used for whitening teeth in Ancient Rome.
no need to worry - and you can use it instead of toothpaste ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Doublethink.
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Of course, most UEA students will be in shared accommodation ...
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Doublethink.
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I notice from your wiki link:
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Urine is sterile until it reaches the urethra, where epithelial cells lining the urethra are colonized by facultatively anaerobic Gram negative rods and cocci. Current research suggests urine is not even sterile in the bladder. Regardless, subsequent to elimination from the body, urine can acquire strong odors due to bacterial action,[citation needed] and in particular the release of ammonia from the breakdown of urea.
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Originally posted by itsarumdo:
from wiki ... quote:
... Urine was also used for whitening teeth in Ancient Rome. ...
I'd rather not have heard that. ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif)
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Doublethink.
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A fair few people drink it for supposed health benefits, think its most common in China.
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Jack o' the Green
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Now that's what I call taking the piss. Doubt they've managed to get enough people to do a double-blind random trial to test for efficacy though.
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There's a whole naturopathic programme using urine - which was used when hospitals and modern medicine weren't available. It's pretty full-on - you have to drink every drop. I had a go at a lesser version (just a wineglass full of first flush in the morning) about 20 years ago, but didn't notice any effect.
And quite a few people wash using their own urine because it has a really beneficial effect on skin. I had a go for a while and then dropped it. It's a bit like the not washing hair thing (where you leave the natural oils to find their own balance by not using detergent - after about 3 weeks the hair normalises and looks good) - it works if you're well, and if you're not there is some kind of chemical reaction (maybe increased bacterial colonies on the skin) and it smells horribly.
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I have never been able to understand the logic of drinking one's own urine (if, indeed, there is any). For goodness' sake, urine is something the body chucks out as waste - you would think that should give people some kind of hint.
If you have chucked something out as waste, you hardly want to have it back, surely?
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Homeopathic hogwash. The people who had the sad task of studying it concluded that whatever health benefits people thought they were deriving from the practice was simply the benefits of properly hydrating yourself. Urine drinking commonly means putting a drop or two of urine in a pint of water or so.
Commonly, I said. I know the fanatics about it don't dilute as much.
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I was always told that drinking your urine was what you should do if you're stranded at sea with an inadequate non-saltwater drinking supply. And that it's the best immediate remedy for jellyfish bites.
I find the existence of sheewee and other products baffling. Surely everyone grew up in a place where the occasional drought made going outside and/or using a chamber pot necessary, no? That's part of what makes skirts and dresses so convenient - so much easier to squat and avoid a mess on your clothes.
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Originally posted by saysay:
Surely everyone grew up in a place where the occasional drought made going outside and/or using a chamber pot necessary, no?
No.
(Even living as I now do in the drought-stricken Arizona desert, it hasn't come to that.)
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Doublethink.
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Nowadays they recommend against drinking urine if you are already dehydrated as it can fuck your kidneys at that point. The jellyfish thing is a myth.
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Originally posted by Darllenwr:
I have never been able to understand the logic of drinking one's own urine (if, indeed, there is any). For goodness' sake, urine is something the body chucks out as waste - you would think that should give people some kind of hint.
If you have chucked something out as waste, you hardly want to have it back, surely?
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Originally posted by Enoch:
quote:
Originally posted by Darllenwr:
I have never been able to understand the logic of drinking one's own urine (if, indeed, there is any). For goodness' sake, urine is something the body chucks out as waste - you would think that should give people some kind of hint.
If you have chucked something out as waste, you hardly want to have it back, surely?
Many species eat their own feces because proteins they need are produced in their colons. Not saying we fit into that august company, but rather that this statement does not take into account all the facts on the ground. Chucking something out as waste is not an indication that you shouldn't want it back.
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In Australia there is a grand tradition of male privilege and obligation to pee on lemon trees.
At church i am currently pushing a claim for alpha male on the basis of the extraordinary current crop on our lemon tree.
My friend challenged it with a truly enormous lemon which I later discovered he had not grown himself, an outrage I am thinking of taking up with the eldership.
Highly accurate plughole weeing is one thing, but a bit constricting.
To really free your spirit you need to compete in length and height of the stream.
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Can't say why I'm reminded of this song.
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