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Ariel
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[Duplicate post deleted, I guess at the same time as Yangtze also deleted her last, so reposted by Ariel! Sorry for the confusion.]
Originally posted by Yangtze:
I have a question - when people are saying their shoes don't last, what do you mean by that?
Presumably not just that the heels or soles have worn down because shoes can be re-heeled and re-soled. (I find that I need to re-heel shoes once or twice a year and re-sole around 12-18 months depending on the shoe and how often I wear it.)
The upper coming away from the sole? This seems to be happening more to me, including with re-soles. I keep meaning to get some appropriate glue so I don't have to take them back to the cobbler each time.
I've had buckles come unattached and elastic straps overstretch but the cobbler has managed to mend those. I've also replaced zips on boots (though that was not cheap).
If they get a bit too stretched I've found that insoles help for a bit. Ditto heel grips if lining wearing away at heel.
So is it something else that means a shoe is worn out that it has to be replaced rather than repaired? The other reasons I can think of are: stretching too much so too loose; inner back of heel/lining wearing through so that even heel grips don't help; shoe structural integrity sort of collapsing (this is happening with my favourite ballet flats).
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Gwai
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Re lasting, often I do mean the sole or the heel is going, or at least that's a major part of it. If I buy a shoe for $80, the rest is going to have to be pretty unworn for me to have it re-soled for $40. For instance, let's say the upper is scuffed, the lining is wearing and the front toe has a not-yet-a-hole. It's just going to be a better for me to buy a new pair of shoes because that pair of shoes is more than half done. Also I often buy shoes on clearance racks for less than $40 dollars. I did have one pair of shoes re-soled for more than I paid for it, but it has to be a pretty impressive pair of shoes before I'm about to do that.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Yangtze:
Presumably not just that the heels or soles have worn down because shoes can be re-heeled and re-soled.
Some can't, apparently, because of the material they're made of.
Some split. The fabric might come away from the sole, or the sole itself might crack in the middle and let the rain in. It's usually one or the other with mine.
Sometimes the lining wears out, or into holes, may get stiff and stick up in spikes. Sometimes the heel bit wears out and the plastic or metal underneath the fabric becomes very noticeable when you wear them.
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Yangtze
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Is it more of an issue with shoes that aren't leather? I can see that trying to re-stick canvas (or PVC/PU) back to a sole might be hard.
Does sole cracking happen horizontally where the toe joints are? (If that makes sense?)
Also - re cheery shoes, I have these beauties. (The brand is Grenson - I managed to get them reduced.) Very comfy too.
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Yangtze
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Originally posted by Gwai:
...re-soled for $40...
![[Eek!]](eek.gif) Yikes. Round here it's about £10 for re-soling and £5 for re-heeling.
(Actually I think I paid £18 for re-soling one pair recently but there was something special about them, though I forget what right now! Maybe the pair with an actual hole in the sole.)
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Golden Key
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
I own one pair of tennis shoes (trainers, whatever) and one pair of decent-for-funerals shoes. That's it, bar a pair of ballet slippers. The reason is that the forefront of my foot (you know, the bit that's supposed to be covered by the tongue and laces of a tennis shoe?) is about an inch higher than normal people's. Which means that unless the shoe has virtually no upper, it will crash against the bone there and hurt like hell. What do you call that, tall-footed? thick-footed? Whatever it is, it's a disaster for a woman who is required to wear non-laced closed toes work-formal shoes (i.e. pumps). I go straight to the men's department and most of those don't work either.
This is all made much much worse by the fact that I have to wear custom orthotics in my shoes, which raises the height of the foot one inch more. My mother says I should just wear the shoebox and be done with it. Thanks, Mom.
Much of that is similar to me. I can't wear shoes where the opening is cut like ballet slippers, because it cuts into the high curve of my foot. I can wear loafers, sneakers (aka tennis/running shoes), some sandals, and some boots. I also need good balance and good traction. So I generally wear sensible shoes--Reebok's, Timberland, Ecco--with flat, thick, textured soles. I also tend to have just one pair at a time, because my feet have a hard time adapting between pairs.
ETA: Oh, and cost is a big issue. I go to discount outlets (like DSW), and look for sales there. I used to also go to stores like Timberland. I've also bought second-hand shoes--workable, if they're in good condition and you use a skin-safe, low-toxicity disinfectant. Or, if washable, put them through the washer, and dry on low heat.
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Lamb Chopped
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It was really annoying because I used to work for a boss who wanted "femininity" grrrrr in the women who worked under him, and that is simply not possible when your choice is tennis shoes (not allowed) or the only pair of man's formal shoes that fit in the whole freakin' city (not much of an exaggeration, that). I was so sorry to disoblige him (no I wasn't) but it was certainly one element in our disintegrating relationship. Heels he wanted, and heels he didn't get. (nor skirts, nor home-baked goodies, nor any of the other crap he expected from a professional)
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Penny S
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Could women faced with dress codes that demand unsuitable shoes cite elfin safety and submit papers on the damage that ensues from incorrect footwear, pointing out that employers wouldn't really want legal cases about it, would they?
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Lamb Chopped: what you're describing is called a high instep - not uncommon, not a deformity and there is a not too expensive solution.
Go to a shop that sells shoes for theatrical productions and ballet shoes: they will be used to producing made-to-measure shoes in a variety of styles. Go through the stuff they can produce and get them to make you a pair - they'll ensure they fit you properly and you should get a choice of styles.
If such a beast doesn't exist on your side of the pond then there are two firms in London, both of which do mail order: these are Annello & Davide and Freed of London.
A&D in particular may be of interest since they do theatrical/historical made-to-measure shoes (their styles start at pre-Roman and go through to 20th century, plus middle Eastern!). I'm pretty sure you'll find something to suit, although it may be pricey - but then something that fits properly will last longer in any case.
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Lamb Chopped There are laws against that kind of behaviour in the EU, though they are not always rigorously enforced.
Penny S: quote:
Could women faced with dress codes that demand unsuitable shoes cite elfin safety and submit papers on the damage that ensues from incorrect footwear, pointing out that employers wouldn't really want legal cases about it, would they?
Not for very much longer, judging by the rumblings from Westminster... today the Human Rights Act, tomorrow the Health and Safety Executive.
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Lamb Chopped
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There are laws here too, I just had an asshole (and no good way of proving it). Sorry for the tangent! Back to much more interesting SHOES...
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Originally posted by Jane R:
Lamb Chopped There are laws against that kind of behaviour in the EU, though they are not always rigorously enforced.
There seems to be some dispute about this at Cannes.
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The Intrepid Mrs S
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Originally posted by Firenze:
In fact this one and this.
Really hope that they give you happy feet, Firenze!
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I have been reading this with interest. I have flat feet, very flat and a fallen arch on one foot. Getting shoes which are comfortable on both feet is hard.
I always wear flat shoes, never heels, often with a strap over instep. Last night I walked a few metres from tap to table and could hardly put my right foot to the floor when I reached table.
Right shoe has spectacularly and suddenly died. It had come apart upper from sole, down inside length. There was a crack across part of the under instep, large portions of the sole appeared to have been chewed by a dog and left across the floor. Sole under heel was thinking of disintegrating.
These are about eight years old and have had a lot of wear. They were not expensive.
I am not complaining, I have had my money's worth. I am just surprised at the sudden overwhelming demise. I have others about the same age so will inspect regularly and carefully.
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I too have been reading this with interest. Currently I get my shoes from Cosyfeet , which was recommended on the Diabetes UK forums.
I have had surgery for bunions in the past, and as I also have type 2 diabetes I need to take extra care of my tootsies. Cosyfeet have very wide fitting shoes, soft seams, and they also do socks and hosiery. I despaired of finding shoes that fit before I discovered them - and if you have a chronic condition you don't have to pay VAT ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Lothlorien
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Thanks Pine Marten for the link. I have ordered some warm soft boots for winter here. Will get more if these are fine for me.
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OliviaCA
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Love this thread.
I have practically given up on "serious" shoes, and tend to wear knitted-boot-slippers or men's sandals indoors, and trainers or men's sandals outdoors.
I did have a pair of red leather kickers bought second-hand ( nearly new ) which lasted ( about 5? ) years, and a pair of ( single-strap/mary-jane ) black caterpillars which lasted ditto, but haven't found anything like them since, so trainers it is, because cheap and comfortable.
Luckily I don't have a job with dress-code.
My sister gave me a pair of classy italian leather hiking boots last year which I dubbined, ( they need scraping though; I got a little too enthusiastic with the grease :lol ), but I'm almost afraid to wear them in case they wear out just before I need them for something serious.
At a wedding a few years back I was reduced to wearing tiny black-canvas-gym-dance-slip-ons.
The sort of shoe most women seem to wear to events/with smart clothing don't seem to belong in the same universe/dimension as my feet. :?
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Chorister
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Depends on what you buy. I'd be very disappointed if my DocMartin AirWare shoes lasted less than 5 years.
Handmade shoes can last for years, for example, people take their children to a shop in Totnes especially to buy handmade shoes which can be stretched after 1 year to a larger size.
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The children, of course, stretch themselves without much help except for feeding. ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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Penny S
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The subject came up when I went to a friend's for lunch. She had even investigated bespoke shoes, but they would have cost £1000 for the first pair (including last making) and £500 thereafter. she is currently wearing shoes from Aldi.
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Firenze
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Heavens. I remember my uncle telling me how he and my grandfather decided to make their own boots one year- quite successfully, I understand. For years our household impedimenta included a cobbler's last (which we used as a kind of mini anvil for cracking nuts).
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Lamb Chopped
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Originally posted by OliviaCA:
I did have a pair of red leather kickers ...
Of course I read this as red leather knickers...
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Penny S
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quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
quote:
Originally posted by OliviaCA:
I did have a pair of red leather kickers ...
Of course I read this as red leather knickers...
I think I may have seen a pair of those in M&S sale yesterday.
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Firenze
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Originally posted by Penny S:
quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
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Originally posted by OliviaCA:
I did have a pair of red leather kickers ...
Of course I read this as red leather knickers...
I think I may have seen a pair of those in M&S sale yesterday.
Sure it wasn't a S&M sale?
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Another pair of funny feet checking in! Little and wide and if I wear more than a loafer type heel for any time get quite a bit of pain around my big toe (even after I take them off as I've a small bunion). They also swell at the smallest provocation so I can sit down for dinner with one size feet, stand up a bit later and they've grown! So cue funny walking with suddenly tight shoes.
I love my Birkenstocks and crocs ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) sadly neither are allowed at work.
I did find some gorgeous fuschia faux suede ballet pumps at M&S a few years ago with a blingy bow, they are almos wearing through the sole now but I'm it sure I can get the resoled, I'd love to find some more though.
I've also had some blingy thing sandals from there, I can't usually wear those at all but these are so thin they are ok.
M&S wide fit range have kept me shod for a fair few years now
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Ariel
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Fun morning trying on summer sandals in a variety of shops. The pair I particularly liked didn't fit, unfortunately, and the other pair I thought about would have been ankle-twisters but still pretty enough to make me regretful.
That and the quest for a new summer handbag will probably keep me entertained over the bank holiday.
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Originally posted by Firenze:
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Originally posted by Penny S:
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
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Originally posted by OliviaCA:
I did have a pair of red leather kickers ...
Of course I read this as red leather knickers...
I think I may have seen a pair of those in M&S sale yesterday.
Sure it wasn't a S&M sale?
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Boogie
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I love my Fit Flops
I have two pairs of the flip flop ones and a pair of the clogs which are never off my feet in the house.
In the evenings I can be found five inch heel gorgoeus MissKG shoes, which I will be wearing for my son's wedding. So I am wearing them in and practicing wearing heels again as it's ages since I did!
I also have a pair of kitten heels wich will go under the twin's pram for when I can wear them no longer - I will let you know how long I last! (The wedding is on June 20th)
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Boogie
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Now, Ship of Fools - I blame you!
I went on the KG site to link the shoes I bought for the wedding, wandered into the sale section and ordered a pair of boots!
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Pyx_e
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I made my own shoes last week.
One a day course, these but blue........
Very interesting experience and very comfortable shoes, I too have a high instep and as these are tailor made they are the best fitting shoes I have.
I never wear the same shoes 2 days running and have MANY shoes. sigh.
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Wow, those look wonderful but are spendy.
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
I made my own shoes last week.
I never wear the same shoes 2 days running and have MANY shoes. sigh.
That looks clever, Pyx_e - I thought you only made bags. But I guess the principle is the same.
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Pyx_e
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Actual Shoes
Many things were similar, though the shaping and lasting were new to me. And the way(s) soles are attached was the main reason I went.
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
Actual Shoes
Drool.
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Lothlorien
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Pine Marten suggested Cosyfeet for comfortable, adjustable shoes. Lsat Friday I had an email re despatch of a pair of soft boots with straps around the ankle. I had ordered them four hours earlier. Today, Friday again, I am wearing them. They are very comfortable and I love them. Pretty good service to get to Sydney, Australia in a week from ordering.
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Glad to oblige, Lothlorien! Hope they last well ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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I buy good walking shoes from the Cotswolds shop, and I signed up for free to their scheme where they take my details, give me a card, and I get a two year guarantee on the shoes. These are my main shoes, and I often walk several miles a day, and I expect them to last two years or I will get them replaced. They have lasted eighteen months so far.
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I should add that the brand I buy is Salomon, and they cost £85. And I have odd-shaped feet - very wide, high and short, with very high arches, and normally shoes don't last me more than six months. But these are good. Merrell is a good brand too - the staff in the shop are good at recommending what is good for your needs, if you go to a shop that specialises in outdoors gear. I asked for trainers and they recommended walking shoes instead, and they were right. I find walking shoes better than trainers because they are firm and supportive, and my ankles twist easily. And because I walk - I don't run. I always buy waterproof shoes, because there's lots of rain where I live.
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I was reading the other day that Doc Martens have certain shoes and boots that come with a lifetime guarantee - the 'for life' brand. I've never tried Doc Martens, but it intrigued me - apparently they will continue to repair or replace them whenever they wear out. Seems a good investment.
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Ah yes, I meant 'range', rather than 'brand'. They have both boots and shoes in the 'for life' range:
For women
For men
I think I would find the boots more comfortable than the shoes, although I've never tried either, so don't know.
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Originally posted by Tree Bee:
I bought these sandals in the blue colourway last Saturday and look forward to wearing them. They are comfy and oh so pretty.
Thank you for finding these - I have ordered the fuschia colour pair online because my nearest 2 shops aren't stocking them.... I don't usually buy shoes online because my feet are so fussy, but these look like they'll do the trick.
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Originally posted by daisydaisy:
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Originally posted by Tree Bee:
I bought these sandals in the blue colourway last Saturday and look forward to wearing them. They are comfy and oh so pretty.
Thank you for finding these - I have ordered the fuschia colour pair online because my nearest 2 shops aren't stocking them.... I don't usually buy shoes online because my feet are so fussy, but these look like they'll do the trick.
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Gwai
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*whine* Why oh why will nobody put a for life type guarantee on any kind of shoe I could even maybe wear into an office? Even a two year guarantee. Boy would they keep all my business */whine*
On the other hand, I have at least found a brand of shoes I like and can wear at affordable prices. My husband will have to put up with me having a spare pair of shoes in the closet. (For a man who doesn't have any shoes besides dress shoes and winter boots, me having winter boots, sandals, other pair of sandals someone gave me, black dress boots, brown dress boots, and backup black dress boots is a huge number of shoes.)
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Originally posted by Gwai:
...I have at least found a brand of shoes I like and can wear at affordable prices.
Please tell us what they are.
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Originally posted by Gwai:
*whine* Why oh why will nobody put a for life type guarantee on any kind of shoe I could even maybe wear into an office? Even a two year guarantee. Boy would they keep all my business */whine*
On the other hand, I have at least found a brand of shoes I like and can wear at affordable prices. My husband will have to put up with me having a spare pair of shoes in the closet. (For a man who doesn't have any shoes besides dress shoes and winter boots, me having winter boots, sandals, other pair of sandals someone gave me, black dress boots, brown dress boots, and backup black dress boots is a huge number of shoes.)
Could you not wear the Dr Martens brogue/Oxford type shoes? Like this ?
[ 03. June 2015, 19:25: Message edited by: Pomona ]
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I haven't worn shoes in the last 15 years.
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