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Zappa
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2016 was pretty toxic, public grief-wise. I figure we should just have a rolling thread of sorrow in 2017 (though not precluding individual threads too). So here, sadly we go ...

Farewell Peter Sarstedt and thanks for the poignant memories. [Tear]

[ 09. January 2017, 00:39: Message edited by: Zappa ]

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It occurred to me when I heard of his death that for our generation (I'm in my mid-50s) many of the people whose music/acting/comedy/whatever*) punctuated our youth are now reaching the, shall we say, latter part of their lives.

It's rather depressing from any perspective - it kind of brings home one's own mortality.

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Can one say RIP to a friendship? I've had a massive bust-up with the person who was my best friend and now it seems unlikely we'll ever speak again.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sipech:
Can one say RIP to a friendship? I've had a massive bust-up with the person who was my best friend and now it seems unlikely we'll ever speak again.

Oh, golly, that happened to me too a couple of weeks ago. We were talking on the telephone, he took offense at something I said and hung up on me, and we haven't spoken since. I have a feeling we never will again.

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And it's possible to have a friendship divorce, too--including ones that are so nasty that they do about as much damage as a nasty marital divorce. (YMMV, of course.)

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I wonder if this is the place for that. While I agree that a thread talking about long term break ups and personal bereavement may well be a good idea I think Zappa was trying to start a thread in Heaven for the public people we want to commemorate rather than having lots of short threads with just a few people posting.

If the later is the case it really needs to be tagged to the top otherwise it will keep sinking and disappearing.

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I'm another dipping in with the loss of a friendship. i feel so guilty as she carries the greatest of tragedies but we grew so terribly apart. I can only hope she is better off without me. The friendship had grown toxic, co-dependent or something and whilst there is no blame involved, I just hope we both grow - indeed i hope all of us who are sad from the parting of the ways of friends will grow.
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Jengie, we are considering a separate thread for friendships etc because we can see the grief when they break down.

However, please no more junior hosting like the end of your post . Thank you.

Lothlorien. AS Host

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I know he died in 2016, but I keep returning to Leonard Cohen. Everybody knows (youtube, worth it.

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Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

My father's one eye sees cloudy so he doesn't read, he's so, so unsteady on his feet
he talks of Berlin in 1938 and Singapore in '42, and I think of taking him home and putting him in bed,
but and everybody else says "put him in a home instead"

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Gentle Hostly Oink

The intention of this thread (as understood by the Hosts) was for (mostly) short tributes to (mostly) celebrities who have died, to avoid cluttering up the board with individual RIP threads.

It took a bit of a detour into the ending of friendships and relationships, and after some discussion Upstairs, it was decided that a dedicated thread for such discussions would maybe be a better idea.

Thank you.

Piglet, AS host

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As she doesn't really qualify for the Celebrity Death Pool, being (a) under 18 years old; and (b) a dog, I'd like to post a little tribute to Top Gear Dog, who graced our television screens for one of the series of Top Gear and died earlier this week.

RIP, TG. [Votive]

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I started a thread, which has had only one response, but I feel that the woman deserves acknowledgement. Frances Carr, age 89, of Sabbathday Lake, Maine. She was one of the last three Shakers. As I said in the thread, we are witnessing the death of a language with which to speak to the divine. Her passing has occasioned great sadness for me.

She is in the valley of love and delight.

And, may we all, be turned 'round right.

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Lothlorien
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Farewell to Gordon Kaye. Rene Artois from 'Allo, 'allo. has died.

My family still has their favourite quotes from this and bring them out when appropriate. The show gave us much enjoyment and laughter.

[ 23. January 2017, 21:19: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

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You have been watching...

[Votive]

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quote:
Originally posted by Pangolin Guerre:
I started a thread, which has had only one response, but I feel that the woman deserves acknowledgement. Frances Carr, age 89, of Sabbathday Lake, Maine. She was one of the last three Shakers. As I said in the thread, we are witnessing the death of a language with which to speak to the divine. Her passing has occasioned great sadness for me.

She is in the valley of love and delight.

And, may we all, be turned 'round right.

I saw that at the time and felt a strange sense of the loss of a dream ... perhaps a reminder to us all

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Word is coming in that Mary Tyler Moore has died. I have very strong memories of my family sitting down to watch "The Mary Tyler Moore Show"--I always looked forward to the hat toss at the end of the opening titles. I also have very strong memories of the final show of the series. While a number of shows have done special "final episodes" to end their runs, MTM's finale was certainly one of the best. "It's a long way to Tipperary. It's a long way to go..." [Tear]

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I have similar memories and when I visited Minneapolis for work, made sure I did the beret toss and had my picture taken at the statue. So very sad to read of her passing.

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Re Shakers:

Sorry to hear of her death. IIRC, that's the community that has taken in new Shakers--craftsmen, I think. I'm not sure how much of the rule they're following.

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Here in NZ and OZ too to a lesser extent we are gutted by the loss of Murray Ball, creator of Footrot Flats. He has through his pen captured the heart 0of so much of kiwidom. One of our greatest national treasures: go well, in that paddock in the sky [Tear]

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His drawings capture so much without needing many words. Alzheimer's is such a cruel disease for both families and patients.

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And a fond farewell to that old wild rocker Chuck Berry. What surprised me in the various obits was that despite his multiple brushes with the law in his younger days, his wife had stuck with him (and he with her) for over 60 years. So they must have been doing something right in the eyes of God, even if not in the eyes of "mainstream" WASP preachers of the 1950s.

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Another sad loss - though he was 86 - with the death of Colin Dexter, creator of Inspector Morse, that most cerebral of English detectives.

I've read the books, and seen the TV adaptations, and once, just once, I spotted the villain before Morse did..... [Eek!]

Morse, and Dexter, would, of course, have approved of my regular use of the Oxford comma...

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Oh no! [Votive]

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Betty Kennedy, who was on CBC's Front Page Challenge from 1962 to 1995 when it ended, died at 91. She was also appointed a senator later.

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My Grandfather thought very highly of her - and watched faithfully during his lifetime.

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Jengie jon

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John Noakes has died. He was one of my Blue Peter presenters.

Jengie

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Remember John Noakes joining the Valerie and Chris. He was like the new kid on the block and would get volunteered for all the daredevil stuff.

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/tangent

Was it Christopher Trace who first gave us "And now for something completely different"?

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You mean it wasn't Monty Python??? [Confused]

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Just rectifying the omission of John Clarke of fame from Fred Dagg to Clarke and Dawes who died in early April.

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Oh yes, indeed [Tear]

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Farewell to Peter Sallis, 'Clegg' in Last of the Summer Wine, and the voice of Wallace in Wallace and Gromit, who has died at the great age of 96.

[Votive]

RIPARIG.

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Sam Panopoulos, who invented the Hawaiian pizza, has died aged 83.

Here is the obituary from the BBC.

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Chris Cornell died weeks ago, and I still can't come to terms with it.
Probably not a coincidence that my second cousin died years before her time around the same time. Rest in Peace, Debbie. [Votive]

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RIP Helmut Kohl, at the age of 87, former German Chancellor, and architect of German reunification.

Also RIP +Geoffrey Rowell, formerly of the C of E's Diocese of Europe, a good friend of Our Place's sacristan.

Kohl and Rowell, in different ways, could be classed as 'great Europeans'.

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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Adam West, the original TV Batman.

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Here is an exceptionally cool commemoration of Adam West.

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quote:
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Adam West, the original TV Batman.

Check the Circus Celebrity Death Pool.

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Otto Warmbier, the American just released from a North Korean prison, has died. His parents say he seemed to know he was home and was at peace.

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Farewell, too, to another author:

Michael Bond, the creator of beloved children's character Paddington Bear, has died at the age of 91.

A shame he never seems to have received an award for Services to Marmalade....

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Many years ago I was 21 years old, had just finished college, and had no job prospects. The only serious boyfriend I had ever had had just dumped me. Life was pretty bleak. I couldn't concentrate on any serious reading (I couldn't afford a television). I discovered Paddington Bear in a book shop. He and P.G. Wodehouse got me through those rough times.

Thank you, Mr. Bond.
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[Tear]

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RIP. As I said on the Circus thread, he created a very lovable little bear. [Tear]

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I have been wondering how to post this for a day or so since the death of a beloved indigenous brother strongly connected to music.. It is the custom not to refer to those deceased by name, nor to post images or sound. Some TV programs here have warnings at the beginning so as not to give offence.

Today I saw elsewhere that the custom is to refer to such as Yaku-miriw, that is without name, so travel well.

He had an honorary doctorate bestowed on hiim for his music. Blind from birth, he brought pleasure to many and raised the understanding of many of us of indigeneous issues. Gone too young from causes which would have been avoided or treated properly had he been born in a major city.

Travel well.

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If others wish to comment on his death, please do not mention his name.

Thank you.

Lothlorien, AS Host.

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Loth, just a question - is referring to someone by name after death not allowed at all or is it just the recently dead?

Huia

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Huia, I think it must be for all time as programs mention it at start and the people are gone years before. I thought most people knew of it here, but I see his name in print etc.

I will ask someone in family with Masters degree in Indigenous Social Poliices. Perhaps more accurate than my knowledge.

Edited to add: It seems that offence is given by naming not only to the deceased but also to living .

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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
RIP. As I said on the Circus thread, he created a very lovable little bear. [Tear]

I don't know how many of you saw the gorgeous little cartoon in "Private Eye" which shows Michael Bond standing at the pearly gates, hand in hand with Paddington who is saying to St. Peter, "Please look after this author". (I tried to post a link but it didn't work).

In the latest issue, a Vicar has written a letter stating that in the best theological circles, it is well-known that marmalade is served in heaven.

It must surely be Wilkin's "Tawny" which surpasses all others (eat your heart out, Oxford and Dundee!)

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Thanks Lothlorien, I know nothing about indigenous Australian culture. I would really hate to do/say something disrespectful through ignorance.

Huia

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I had no idea and this kind of reminder is helpful on an international forum.Thanks, Lothlorien. His music is extraordinary, so melodic and haunting.

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