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Zappa
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quote:
Originally posted by Lothlorien:
Huia, I think it must be for all time as programs mention it at start and the people are gone years before. I thought most people knew of it here, but I see his name in print etc.

I will ask someone in family with Masters degree in Indigenous Social Poliices. Perhaps more accurate than my knowledge.

Edited to add: It seems that offence is given by naming not only to the deceased but also to living .

This interview addresses the question of how to avoid cultural errors in referring to Yaku-miriw the musician, and also the circumstances that have taken him from sight.

"Long grass" is a reference to living rough, literally sometimes amongst the long grass (often two metres high*) of the Territory. All else is self-explanatory I think.


* I have a photo or two of my 4WD dwarfed by the stuff.

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Lothlorien
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Thank you for that.

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Huia
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That was incredibly moving - thanks Zappa.

[Votive] for the family and friends,

Huia

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I have encountered the music of the musician, known for playing the guitar upside down, on a number of occasions. He sung in his native language, which I do not speak, but his tone carried such depth and emotion that it didn't seem to matter.

May his memory endure. [Votive]

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Zappa thanks, i had no idea....( about so much)
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Lothlorien
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Betty Cuthbert, the Olympic athlete, has died at 79. Basicaslly untrained for years, she won four gold medals but had suffered for years from multiple sclerosis. At Sydney Olymocs in 2000, she was pushed onto the arena in a wheelchair carrying the torch by Raelene Boyle, another Aussie athlete, a cancer survivor.

[ 06. August 2017, 23:44: Message edited by: Lothlorien ]

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Robert Hardy for me Seigfried from All Creatures Great and Small. Your mileage may well vary given his roles

Jengie

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Barbara Cook, the Broadway soprano, is gone. She originated the role of Marian the Librarian.

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Remember before God,

Richard III, King of England

and of those who fell on Bosworth Field,

having kept faith, 22 August, 1485.

Loyaulte me lie.

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I do hope Richard III is finally at peace now that he has been suitably put to rest.

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God speed, Brian Aldiss, who I never got to meet, written by Chris Priest, who I have.

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I meant to post this the other day, but the archetypal 1960s kiwi male had headed off for a beer with the boys in the sky

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For those of us who have some interest in biblical studies.

Bruce Malina (1933-2017) has died, a scholar who introduced Mediterranean cultural anthropology into NT studies. I've only read his The New Testament World: Insights from Cultural Anthropology and I'm sure others would be better placed to comment on his work.

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Oh drat. [Waterworks]

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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Jerry Lewis, the rubber faced hilarious comedian. Loved him as a kid.

In the name of the Father and the Son, and into the Hole He Goes!

Ha yuk yuk yuk yuk yuk. Heaven gets a laugh for sure

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I put a display of Brian Aldiss books on the counter of the bookshop where I work (we call it the Desth Spot, because we display books by or about anyone who's just died there) - only to be asked; "Is he a local author?"
"No, he's just died. I was lucky enough to see him at the London World SF Con."
"Oh - does he write science fiction then?"
Sigh.

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Brenda Clough
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Oh dear, that's sad.
A quite noted British SF critic was asked by Nature magazine if he would write an appreciation of Aldiss. He was up for it, until he learned that Nature was expecting him to do it gratis.

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Uncle Pete

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quote:
Originally posted by Joan Rasch:
Remember before God,

Richard III, King of England

and of those who fell on Bosworth Field,

having kept faith, 22 August, 1485.

Loyaulte me lie.

I thank you. To my shame I forgot (see my avatar)

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Just saw that the controversial radical feminist writer and activist Kate Millett (Sexual Politics, Flying, Sita, The Looney Bin Trip) has died at the age of 82. One of those who helped define second-wave feminism.

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He may not have been much known outside musical circles, but the composer Derek Bourgeois, who wrote the incidental music to the television series The Barchester Chronicles, and was D's composition tutor when he was at Bristol in the 1970s, has died aged 75.

May he rest in peace and rise in glory.

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Stanislov Petrov, who may well have saved the world from nuclear war, died in May, aged 77:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41314948

RIPARIG.

One can only hope and pray that such men of sense still exist...

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Absolutely, BF - it looks as if the world could really do with someone like him at the moment. [Eek!]

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alto n a soprano who can read music

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Singer David Cassidy has died.

May he and all who care for him find peace, light, and comfort.

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Rodney Bewes: I loved and love The Likely Lads and Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads.

Shame he and James Bolam fell out.

M.

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Indeed. RIP. [Votive]

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Whatever happened to the Likely Lads hit the spot in the 70s
'Bob and Thelma' were the future.

Rest in Peace RB [Votive]

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Jim Nabors has died.

I grew up watching Gomer Pyle. Still love listening to my Jim Nabors Christmas Album.

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quote:
Originally posted by sharkshooter:
Jim Nabors has died.

I grew up watching Gomer Pyle. Still love listening to my Jim Nabors Christmas Album.

Also the source of a stupid yet hilarious joke from “The Simpsons:

quote:
Marge: I before E, except after C
Lisa: Except when pronounced as an “ay” as in neighbor or weigh
Marge: Really? But what about in the sentence “Jim Nabors is way cool”?
Lisa: How often is that going to come up?
Marge, holding Gomer Pyle apron: “It’s on my apron!”



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Sol Bellear, a great advocate for both the rights of indigenous people, and for the provision to them of proper facilities to allow them to exercise those rights, has died. He's to receive a State Funeral, to be held in Redfern Park tomorrow at 11.

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Jengie jon

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Jenny Joseph who is famous for her poem Warning has departed this life.

One of those people who has in part formed my intentions of how to behave when I am old. I come from a longlived line of stubborn people and I suspect I will only get more so as I get older.

Jengie

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Huia
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Sue Grafton, author of the 'alphabet' mystery books starting with A is for Alibi . I think she may have finished Z is For ?? but it hasn't yet been published.

I haven't read the whole series, but I always grabbed a new one when I saw it in the library. She was a reliable author and I liked her characters.

Huia

[ 18. January 2018, 21:35: Message edited by: Huia ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Huia:
Sue Grafton, author of the 'alphabet' mystery books starting with A is for Alibi . I think she may have finished Z is For ?? but it hasn't yet been published.

I haven't read the whole series, but I always grabbed a new one when I saw it in the library. She was a reliable author and I liked her characters.

Huia

Also enjoyed her work, Huia. Thanks for mentioning her here.

And, I believe a "Z" book was planned but not written and the family has said that it will not be done by anyone else.

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Dolores O'Riordan, for Zombie.

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A titan of science Fiction, Ursula K. Le Guin, passed away today aged 88.

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[Votive]

I have all her Earthsea books!

[Overused]

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The 'Grandmother of the internet' Mary Lee Berners-Lee has died. What an interesting life!
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
[Votive]

I have all her Earthsea books!

[Overused]

IJ

Ah yes. Wonderful books. A sad loss indeed. [Votive]
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Sorry to see Ursula has reached the farthest shore. I reread The day before the revolution, about the last day in the life of revolutionary founder Odo, just a week or so ago. [Votive]

[ 24. January 2018, 05:05: Message edited by: Eutychus ]

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Huia
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I think it's time I went on a binge re-reading Ursula Le Guin, I so enjoyed her work. I haven't read much recently, but when I heard she had died I was saddened at the thought of no more new work, and grateful for what she had written.

Huia

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Huia, I was thinking the same thing: to read all those old favourites again, starting with The Left Hand of Darkness.

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You beat me to it E.

Ursula Kroeber Le Guin - gone to greater, real, transcendent glory

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quote:
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I think it's time I went on a binge re-reading Ursula Le Guin, I so enjoyed her work. I haven't read much recently, but when I heard she had died I was saddened at the thought of no more new work, and grateful for what she had written.

Huia

Thanks again for The Compass Rose!

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quote:
Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
A titan of science Fiction, Ursula K. Le Guin, passed away today aged 88.

Oh no! [Tear] Apart from books (The Dispossessed is my favourite), she was an excellent essayist and blogger. Full of imagination and common sense.

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She had mostly quit writing fiction -- she said that well had gone dry, a curiously comforting reflection, because that's a thought that frightens all fictioneers. If Ursula could do it we can all do it. But she was still writing essays, ephemera about her cat, and keeping her hand in. She was old and comfortable with it, an art we could all learn. Someone has pointed out how many of her works are about death and coming to an accomodation with our mortality.

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I bought The Dispossessed on the recommendation of a Shipmate, sophs, when I started a thread entitled "Anarchism 101", and got into some interesting conversations with an anarchist in jail as a result. Great book.

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Huia
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quote:
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Thanks again for The Compass Rose!

I couldn't remember who I posted it to, but am glad it had a good home.

I have just borrowed
The Lathe of Heaven from the library. I haven't read it for over 30 years, but it made a significant impact on me, as did The Word for World is Forest . I have also requested a book of essays written last year. I [Axe murder] libraries.

Huia

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quote:
Originally posted by Martin60:
...Ursula Kroeber Le Guin - gone to greater, real, transcendent glory

I know she was an outspoken agnostic, but I still hope and trust that she will rest in peace and rise in glory.

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