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Lyda*Rose
Ship's broken porthole
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Oh, I don't know. There's something quite fascinating about having a chew toy trying to have a go at Rook.
OK, I obviously seem to be missing something... This guy RooK thinks he's the big man on here, I can see he's "Admin" whatever that means. But in reality, he's just a little boy (behind a PC screen) who's given far more credence than he deserves, just because he knows how to use a few big words.
RooK is a big man around here and has been since before he was made an admin. And that's because he has history here and often the fine oil of wisdom is squeezed out from the bitter language. And that's why he was made an admin: he's not a fool and he doesn't suffer fools kindly. And yes, he could suspend or plank you. So don't get cheeky with him if he posts as an admin.
If I were you, I'd call it a day for now in Hell. Trust me, you won't come out looking any better than you do now. A few more days here and you might be looking like dog fight bait with an ear torn off.
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LeRoc
Famous Dutch pirate
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la vie en rouge: Also, how much money would I need to pay for Josephine to change her title to "Ship's Babushka"?
I think I'd prefer 'Resident Babushka'. But maybe that's a matter of taste...
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Mark Betts
Ship's Navigation Light
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
he's not a fool and he doesn't suffer fools kindly.
It's about respect and it has to be earned - that cuts both ways.
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And yes, he could suspend or plank you. So don't get cheeky with him if he posts as an admin.
I know all that - I'm not a fool neither, but does it do any harm to say what you think, rather than crawl up to people, no matter what they say, in fear that your life will be over if you're "blocked" from this section? I use this term deliberately, because Hell is in reality nothing more than a "Facebook" for christians and anti-christians alike.
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passer
Indigo
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To borrow an expression from another board, it's the Mark and Steve summerfag show.
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irish_lord99
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Posted
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
he's not a fool and he doesn't suffer fools kindly.
It's about respect and it has to be earned - that cuts both ways.
He HAS earned it, but, brother, you're quickly losing any you might have earned. You would do well to actually follow the advice given you by Josephine and others here.
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
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And yes, he could suspend or plank you. So don't get cheeky with him if he posts as an admin.
I know all that - I'm not a fool neither*, but does it do any harm to say what you think, rather than crawl up to people, no matter what they say, in fear that your life will be over if you're "blocked" from this section? I use this term deliberately, because Hell is in reality nothing more than a "Facebook" for christians and anti-christians alike.
You've been here since April. I wouldn't presume to tell people here 'what hell is' and I don't think you should either.
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*"Not a fool either." If you're going to claim intelligence, then do at least use proper grammar. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Tortuf
Ship's fisherman
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Let me add my two cents worth.
Mark, quit while you are behind. Spend a few days away from the Ship.
Realize that saying things you know to be true is not the way to communicate and persuade. If you communicate in ways that are not considerate of other people's beliefs and feelings you will not persuade them, neither will the truth shine out among the words.
RooK was using a stream of invective to both be admonitory, and to be humorous. I know it is hard to see the humor when it is aimed at you and when you do not share the same history on the Ship as others who have been around longer.
If RooK was being mean you would simply not be able to post anymore. You say you could go elsewhere, and yet you seem to enjoy this place. False bravado is not what mature people do.
You are intelligent. And you have the certainty of youth and passion. Use your intelligence to soften the passion and you will find yourself more welcome.
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Mark Betts
Ship's Navigation Light
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OK, I quit for now - just two points:
- Some of the stuff I say is tongue-in-cheek, I get the humour bit...
- "I'm not a fool neither" was supposed to be an irony, and I'm glad someone picked it up (and if you believe that you'll believe anything!)
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Oh, I don't know. There's something quite fascinating about having a chew toy trying to have a go at Rook.
OK, I obviously seem to be missing something... This guy RooK thinks he's the big man on here, I can see he's "Admin" whatever that means. But in reality, he's just a little boy (behind a PC screen) who's given far more credence than he deserves, just because he knows how to use a few big words.
First time I've thoroughly agreed with you, Mark, and probably the last. That stream of potty-mouthed invective above was just pathetic. I know this is Hell, but even in Hell a modicum of intelligence and originality doesn't come amiss.
Oh Lordy. Mark and Steve, two little pigs daring the big bad wolf to blow their house down.
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Steve H
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Originally posted by orfeo:
Oh Lordy...
it's...
[ 04. June 2012, 13:23: Message edited by: Steve H ]
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Josephine
Orthodox Belle
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
It's about respect and it has to be earned - that cuts both ways.
Mark, respect doesn't have to be earned. It can be given freely. You can choose to treat everyone with respect.
And when you're new to a community or to an organization, it's wise to be careful in making judgments about people. You don't know the history. You don't know the culture. A little humility goes a long way.
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
..... because Hell is in reality nothing more than a "Facebook" for christians and anti-christians alike.
They use the same technology but I'm buggered if I can find any meaningful resemblance in, if you like, business terms.
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Lyda*Rose
Ship's broken porthole
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Originally posted by Evensong:
I can't help but wonder if Rook ever tires of such brown nosing.
He gets the complaints and whines, so I think he deserves a few "atta boys". Even foul-mouthed admins need a little lurve. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Originally posted by Evensong:
I can't help but wonder if Rook ever tires of such brown nosing.
Dear Lord, never.
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Chorister
Completely Frocked
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This thread is becoming almost as interesting as the Queen's Jubilee. When does the wet choir come on?
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Mark Betts
Ship's Navigation Light
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Originally posted by Chorister:
This thread is becoming almost as interesting as the Queen's Jubilee. When does the wet choir come on?
Yes I'm tempted to spend an enjoyable evening watching them wheeling out old dinosaurs like Sir Paul McCartney, and the unfunniest comedian ever, Lenny Henry...
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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I have just composed a long post comparing Lenny Henry to many other comedians and then deleted it.
Hoping this meets with the H & A's approval,
Sioni
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Kyzyl
Ship's dog
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
I have just composed a long post comparing Lenny Henry to many other comedians and then deleted it.
Hoping this meets with the H & A's approval,
Sioni
Aw come on, Lenny made a good shrunken head in "Harry Potter & The Prisoner of Azkaban" ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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RooK
1 of 6
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[bans Tortuf]
Die, meddling scum.
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Originally posted by Evensong:
I can't help but wonder if Rook ever tires of such brown nosing.
You say that like I might not be a completely self-obsessed egomaniac. But you know I am. And that's my photogenic side. Now get out of my spotlight, and let me play with my new toys.
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
I obviously seem to be missing something
Oh, but what could that possibly be? Is it perhaps one of the variety of obvious things that have been pointed out to you using small words, sometimes repeated slowly by extremely helpful people?
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[RooK]'s given far more credence than he deserves, just because he knows how to use a few big words.
Actually, I'm also given far mor credence than I deserve because of some of the itty bitty little krillfucking words I know how to use. Plus the years spent being a Hellhost after distinguishing myself in the historic Heaven/Hell war - yadda yadda yadda - pathetic stuff like that.
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I know...
It's funny. You say it, but you don't act like it's true. It's almost like your brain is off getting rugburns while your mouth/keyboard have a housewrecking party in your public identity.
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It's about respect and it has to be earned
Is your entire philosophical mien based on Hollywood westerns? That 200kg gorilla with a biker jacket on and knife scars showing on his face - you might want to at least show him some respect, even before he "earns it" from your perspective.
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that cuts both ways
No, it really really doesn't. Respect can, and should, exist completely objectively. I'm going to respect a mother grizzly bear, even (maybe especially) if she doesn't respect me. Josephine's suggestion to default to respect is a might bit too mature and functional for my own tastes, but I respect her stance. (Also, she was crowned Queen Of Hell once, that's something too.)
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OK, I quit for now
Liar.
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Yes
See.
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Originally posted by Steve H:
even in Hell a modicum of intelligence and originality doesn't come amiss
I dare you to assert that again, except with a modicum or intelligence OR originality.
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Ariston
Insane Unicorn
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Just two questions:
1. I made popcorn, extra salt—who wants some?
2. Josephene, I thought you had to be old to be in the Babushka Brigade. Is there a sort of very-early-promotion due to merit program we don't know about?
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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Originally posted by AristonAstuanax:
I made popcorn, extra salt—who wants some?
Damn you and your extra salt.
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Josephine
Orthodox Belle
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Originally posted by AristonAstuanax:
Just two questions:
1. I made popcorn, extra salt—who wants some?
2. Josephene, I thought you had to be old to be in the Babushka Brigade. Is there a sort of very-early-promotion due to merit program we don't know about?
You're flattering me, AristonAstaunax. Like the waiters who card me when I order wine. They're being silly, but I don't mind.
And, yes, popcorn please.
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mousethief
Ship's Thieving Rodent
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
he's not a fool and he doesn't suffer fools kindly.
It's about respect and it has to be earned - that cuts both ways.
You are singularly bad at taking advice.
RooK has earned more respect here than you, judging by your debut, ever will, times 100. You, so far, have earned zilch.
Did I mention taking advice?
quote:
Originally posted by Tortuf:
False bravado is not what mature people do.
Mark: Make a common, pithy statement out of this set of words: { mark, and, digest, learn, inwardly }
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
Some of the stuff I say is tongue-in-cheek, I get the humour bit...
The problem is, once you've made a total ass of yourself, until you have unmade yourself an ass, "humor" on your part will probably not be perceived as such, but either way makes you look even more an ass. This is a fact of human interaction and has nothing to do with you personally, except that you instantiate it.
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Net Spinster
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Originally posted by Mark Betts:
OK, I quit for now - just two points:
- Some of the stuff I say is tongue-in-cheek, I get the humour bit...
- "I'm not a fool neither" was supposed to be an irony, and I'm glad someone picked it up (and if you believe that you'll believe anything!)
I suggest not doing humor on a lava flow when the hot lava is still flowing below the cooler surface; you aren't good enough to avoid cracking the surface. I'm not sure yet whether hell is a pahoehoe or an aa flow or maybe the crater home of Pele herself (pahoehoe may be purgatory and aa, dead horses), but, all three should be trod carefully.
I see someone has the popcorn; I'll offer up some guacamole and chips.
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Patdys
Iron Wannabe
RooK-Annoyer
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May we please have a cannibalism post now. And Mousie, nice post. You came very close to suggesting RooK has 100 times zilch respect. It wasn't until I reread it, I discovered that wasn't the implication.
And Tortuf, we need your voice of reason. Otherwise we won't know how many standard deviations we have deviated from it...
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Janine
The Endless Simmer
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
... I agree, nothing inherently wrong {with being a fundamentalist, one assumes}, so long as it isn't blind love and pig-headed adherence. Generally it's a lack of humility which gets people backs up, but while that occurs everywhere, those known as fundies do it best.
My mileage varies from that, often and widely.
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RooK
1 of 6
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Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
It's never wise to appear to believe your own publicity,
The rugburn mention is what summoned you, isn't it. Which uptight old adenoidal author are you quoting there?
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Originally posted by Patdys:
May we please have a cannibalism post now.
All my posts are cannibalism posts. It's just that the ones involving condiments are more obvious. Surely you've seen me play with my food before, letting them marinade in their doom.
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Originally posted by Chorister:
This thread is becoming almost as interesting as the Queen's Jubilee. When does the wet choir come on?
Not to undercut your fury or anything, RooK, but I really need to know-- what in God's Holy Name is a wet choir? It sounds pornograpic.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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psst, Kelly, highlight of the River Pageant part of the Diamond Jubilee fest was the wet choir at the end
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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I still don't know what a wet choir is.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Amos
Shipmate
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Kelli--It was cold. It rained. Everyone got wet. The choir also got wet. They sang anyway. This is England. The Queen and the Duke had to stand on their barge smiling and waving for four hours without a drink or a pee break. The Duke (who is old enough to know better) is now in hospital with a bladder infection.
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Well, I am pretty stupid, I guess.
Not as stupid as someone who spells Kelly with an "i" though. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Amos
Shipmate
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Abases self. I am so sorry, Kelly. Forgive me. I hadn't had enough coffee yet--and, yes, I have a close friend over here who spells it t'other way.
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Luckily you're cute when you abase yourself.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I still don't know what a wet choir is.
I think your mistake (and mine) was to somehow think that the wetness was supposed to have a direct influence on the sound of the music.
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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Well, they may have been enthusiastic about it.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Steve H
Shipmate
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quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve H:
even in Hell a modicum of intelligence and originality doesn't come amiss
I dare you to assert that again, except with a modicum or intelligence OR originality.
A 'Ship of Fools' admin, called RooK
Told a shipmate called Steve H "Now LooK -
I dare you to say
What you said t'other day
But with brains and no cliches - they SucK."
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Uncle Pete
Loyaute me lie
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You posted on the wrong thread. Yours is called Great Prats Redefined.
And limericks belong in the fucking Circus.
eta: This was to Dursley. And by peculiar happenstance also to Everstirshit.
[ 05. June 2012, 07:23: Message edited by: PeteC ]
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Steve H
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Evensong:
Not bad. Not bad. But look and suck don't rhyme unless you're from New Zealand.
They rhyme when I say them!
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve H:
quote:
Originally posted by Evensong:
Not bad. Not bad. But look and suck don't rhyme unless you're from New Zealand.
They rhyme when I say them!
Oh fook off.
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Boogie
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by Evensong:
Not bad. Not bad. But look and suck don't rhyme unless you're from New Zealand.
They rhyme when I say them!
Oh fook off.
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Steve H
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Originally posted by Firenze:
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Originally posted by Steve H:
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Originally posted by Evensong:
Not bad. Not bad. But look and suck don't rhyme unless you're from New Zealand.
They rhyme when I say them!
Oh fook off.
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Albertus
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There's a story of the 50s explorer Sir John Fuchs being given a civic reception somewhere in the West Riding, and being introduced by the Mayor as Sir John Fucks.
Sir JF: Actually, your Worship, it's pronounced 'Fooks'
Mayor: Now then, Sir John, I'll have no bad language in my town...
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Angloid
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Or the newspaper headline: "Sir John Fuchs off to North Pole"
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Sine Nomine
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Originally posted by RooK:
quote:
Originally posted by Sine Nomine:
It's never wise to appear to believe your own publicity,
The rugburn mention is what summoned you, isn't it. Which uptight old adenoidal author are you quoting there?
If it had been a quote there would have been quotation marks around it. Unlike some I'm old-fashioned that way.
But more to the point, ever since Grits told me you were tall, quiet and had a nice smile your hairy monster alter ego with the pointed tail just hasn't had the same punch.
(As to rugburn, these days I think I'm living on the edge doing it on the sofa, which reminds me of the immortal words of Mrs. Patrick Campbell – note quotes - "The deep, deep peace of the double-bed after the hurly-burly of the chaise-lounge.")
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But more to the point, ever since Grits told me you were tall, quiet and had a nice smile your hairy monster alter ego with the pointed tail just hasn't had the same punch.
Why on earth does anyone think the devil is ugly? If he was, he wouldn't be so damn alluring.
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