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Mr Curly

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Not much written in December, too busy launching the novel. But have huge plans for writing heaps in January to kick start the year - rewriting a novel, finishing a novella series, starting a new one. Audio book recording once the kids are back at school later in the month.

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Trudy Scrumptious

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December was a bit of a washout for me as well. I finished NaNo with just over 50,000 words done on the new book and was going to aim to have 75K done by the end of Dec. Then I did nothing in the weeks leading up to Christmas. I've gotten back on track a bit since being on holidays from work and now have about 62K. January is going to be a research month.

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quote:
Originally posted by Trudy Scrumptious:
December was a bit of a washout for me as well. I finished NaNo with just over 50,000 words done on the new book and was going to aim to have 75K done by the end of Dec. Then I did nothing in the weeks leading up to Christmas. I've gotten back on track a bit since being on holidays from work and now have about 62K. January is going to be a research month.

Hey, congrads on 50K in November!

I got 10K written in early December before the Christmas machine took over. Goal for 2013 starting January is 2 books in first draft and one older draft finalized. OK, I admit, 2 books was my goal for 2012, but this time I really mean it! [Smile]

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I have ground to a bit of a halt on account of how I don't know what happens in my current chapter. It's sort of a transitional chapter between the two major sections (the staying at home half and the going off to discover the world half). Don't know quite what to do with it tho.

I am aiming to Finish™ it in the first half of this year.

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Words ran together on my last post because I was writing it on my wife's Nook e-reader. I've got the beginnings of several chapters. I probably need to make an outline before I commence formal writing. Dialogue would also be a good idea, I think.

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Mr Curly

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Actually wrote my first joke ( as part of the first 600 words) I've written since heart attack in August. It felt good!

Changing gear into the New Year.

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Firenze

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I got down the stuff in my head and then some more which points the plot in another direction. Still waiting for an inkling of the Next Big Thing.
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Firenze

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Actually, the NBT duly turned up. To an extent. Next workshop tomorrow - I missed the last. Apparently, we were supposed to submit a synopsis for this one.

Anyone else clocking a literary milestone?

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Oooh me! I have crawled past the 100 page mark on my hands and knees [Yipee] (and untangled my dilemma about how to link the two halves of the book together via a box of old papers that the main character has discovered at the library).

Next target, 40 000 words, which isn't too far off.

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Need to put some surrealism in my book like my favourite writer Haruki Murakami, such as a wild animal driving an expensive sports car!

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Survived - rather than enjoyed - the workshop. Still dreadfully discursive and frustrating - though I'm continuing to get positive feedback on the writing. Next and finally, I believe we are to look at the 'query letter' which appears to be about pitching your MS to an agent.
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Originally posted by Firenze:
Survived - rather than enjoyed - the workshop. Still dreadfully discursive and frustrating - though I'm continuing to get positive feedback on the writing. Next and finally, I believe we are to look at the 'query letter' which appears to be about pitching your MS to an agent.

I hope you'll be getting some info on self publishing as well. A well done self-pubbed ebook is the new query letter.

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Firenze

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I suspect not. Our tutor is not of that ilk. However, it's a path I may investigate on my own account.
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I've written nearly 2,000 words for this year's NaNoWriMo thus far. When my copy editor, AKA my lovely bride, wakes up I shall ask her if she can make sense out of what I have written when she gets home from church. I have no ambitions for this first novel other than to publish it as some sort of e-book though in the unlikely case that I succeed it would be cool if it were a paperback and a screenplay for a future film version.

I have outlined about half of the chapters and I already have one surreal episode!

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quote:
Originally posted by kaytee:
'A little less conversation, a little more action please!'


My protagonist in A Man called Mort has finally started to speak. He tells stories about his youth and this would likely be done as a voiceover if I was ever able to turn this into a film. I think I shall tread cautiously and avoid the bits that could take it beyond a PG rating: I would like for my sister and her family to be able to read it or view it before my niece and nephew turn 18!

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I didn't get anything much done in December either, but I think it did me good to have some time off to get some perspective on the first draft.

It's been a struggle to overcome my resistance to re-reading it. At first I was so disgusted by how bad my writing was that I couldn't even bear to start typing it up (I handwrote most of it). I think I've got over that now and finally got a chunk done this weekend.

I do believe that the story is worth telling, so I need to put the work into revising it to make it readable.

Sir Kevin - your surreal episodes sound very intriguing!

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Would you like to see one? Here it is!


“I was riding along the coastal highway on my 554 and saw what I thought might be a red Ducati a little ways behind me and to my right. I was correct. It pulled up along side and the rider seemed to be challenging me to a race! Seeing that it was a replica race bike with likely light-years more power, I declined. It passed me in a blur. I made a pit stop at a layby. When I got there, I saw it parked by a tree on its center stand. I walked over to admire it more closely. There was a full set of red racing leathers laid across the seat and a red helmet locked to the handlebars on the right side. There were no boots, but the gloves had strangely configured fingers made of some sort of metal and had attached servo-motors. Could the rider have had cybernetic hands?

Nearby, a small male horse was grazing in the grass. He had no saddle and no bridle. There were no other humans near by. Who was the rider? Could it be……? Nah, didn’t think so, but to this day I am just not sure.”


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I think we want to keep this thread about the process and problems of writing - and hopefully getting published.

Commenting on actual passages from our sundry stories/novels/treatises etc is a whole other exercise, and not one appropriate to these Boards. (Though discussing how feedback works is valid. For example, much as I grumble about the course I'm doing, it has shown me that having a professional writer point out technical things is worth much more than any amount if friends - or strangers - saying Oh, I like that.)

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I'm at about 150 pages, so more than halfway through for this nonfiction book. May it be over soon!

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I would welcome comment via PM or e-mail. I already have a copy editor: I have been married to her for nearly thirty-five years!

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Pretty much all plotted, all thirty chapters named.
[Smile]

[Yipee]

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The Book Is Done.

Response: Thanks be to God...

Four quotations to verify, and then it goes to the helpful people who are undertaking to catch my flaws. Then revision, layout, proofreading,and epub. I need a fast education in marketing!

Mr. Lamb is fantasizing about pennames, as a condition of my employment requires me to use one ... certainly for any Christian book that includes the term "shit magnet!"

[ 30. January 2013, 04:48: Message edited by: Lamb Chopped ]

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Mr Curly

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I've just finished a 12000 word piece I've been struggling through for over 6 months (pre and post heart attack). Sent off to beta readers today.

It's episode 3 in a 6 part series. Aiming to kick on with the other three in February.

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Firenze

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Good for you, LC!

If you are obliged to have a pen name, then I would go for something with pizzazz (except you can't have Hamishinda Quine - that's taken).

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Young Hamishinda is very taken with the idea.

My son has been told that if he ever publishes a novel, he'll have to use a pen-name because his real name is too close to that of a Famous Author. Is this true? Is there a problem with real names when they're similar to famous names?

LC, Honeyman Gilchrist is also taken. I found a (female) Honeyman Gilchrist on my family tree and have fancied it as a pen name ever since.

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quote:
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The Book Is Done.

Response: Thanks be to God...

...includes the term "shit magnet!"

I have never used nor have I heard of that term. If it were a film, my book would be rated PG in the US: the protagonist does like girls and he dates them avidly, but his sexual exploits remain untold. The raciest thing thus far is when he goes for a scuba-diving lesson via the university's Chevrolet Suburban with a Radcliffe co-ed on his lap!

He does not get into his exploits the evening of the Rose Parade a couple of years later when he has two girls and manages to undo both of their bras at once! At the end of the day, I wish it to be possible for my nieces and nephews (ages 8-21) to read my tome!

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quote:
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I found a (female) Honeyman Gilchrist on my family tree and have fancied it as a pen name ever since.

I use my real name as author but that of the protagonist is entirely made up, as is that of his stately home somewhere in the English countryside at the end of the story.

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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:

My son has been told that if he ever publishes a novel, he'll have to use a pen-name because his real name is too close to that of a Famous Author. Is this true? Is there a problem with real names when they're similar to famous names?

There is also the odd case of Luther Blissett (sorry can't link because of parentheses in the URL), which is both the name of an actual footballer and a collective nom de plume in Italy.

I suppose the problem would be reader disappointment as they reached eagerly for book by Hilaire Mantel, only to find a sensitive evocation of teenage angst in Aberdeenshire instead of a hefty chunk of Tudor skulduggery. If I ever publish, I probably wouldn't use the name I've gone by most of my life, since there is a journalist of that name.

Besides, the lure of escaping from your quotidian identity into the persona of Tempest McSween or Caraway Archimboldo must be considerable, must it not?

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I suspect someone wanting to read one of the Famous Author's warm and gently witty books might be dismayed to read about a bloodbath involving sword fights and mutant squirrels....

Slight tangent - My mother goes to a sewing group of elderly ladies. One arrived upset one day - she had sent her brother, a Free Church minister in Canada, an "Ian Rankin" book, but her brother told her it was so filthy and utterly depraved, he'd burnt it after reading only a few pages. Another old lady was horrified to hear this, as her husband was an avid fan of Ian Rankin books, and she hadn't realised they were pornographic. After sewing, she set off home to deal with her errant husband and purge her house of all Ian Rankin books. And I had my mother on the phone because she thought my husband was another such errant Rankin-reading husband.

Much fuss later, and it transpired that the book the old lady had sent her brother was by Iain Banks. ("A Song of Stone" I think.)

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I like both Ian Rankin and Iain Banks.

Nice work Lamb Chopped and Mr Curly.

I was feeling quite pleased with myself that I have actually done some editing/rewriting, but I really could have done a lot more. My plan is to work on it for at least an hour a day during February so that I keep on top of it.

Pen names - I always thought I would use a pen name, as I'm quite a private person, and my real name is fairly unusual. People who know of me could be pretty confident that it is me if they saw my real name on a book. However, recently I've been thinking that I would be happy to publish what I'm currently writing under my real name. That is, assuming that it turns out okay!

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quote:
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I suspect someone wanting to read one of the Famous Author's warm and gently witty books might be dismayed to read about a bloodbath involving sword fights and mutant squirrels.

While at the same time confusing the actual seekers after squirrel ultraviolence. So best pick a name to alert them to a new kid on the block - Genghiz Nutkin?
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The first 6,375 words cover parts of 30 chapters over the course of 28 pages. I do my best writing during the wee hours of the morning.

[Roll Eyes] [Cool]

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by North East Quine:
I suspect someone wanting to read one of the Famous Author's warm and gently witty books might be dismayed to read about a bloodbath involving sword fights and mutant squirrels.

While at the same time confusing the actual seekers after squirrel ultraviolence. So best pick a name to alert them to a new kid on the block - Genghiz Nutkin?
We have had similarly named people publish in Canada - John Saul who apparently writes horror stories, and John Ralston Saul, who sometimes, in his early years published under his first and last name. He doesn't write horror. But people still shuddered at the thought of the husband of the then-Governor General doing so.

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Mr Curly

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It has just hit me that my wife's book group are discussing my novel tomorrow night. And I am going to the group as guest author.

Yikes! I hope they liked it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
It has just hit me that my wife's book group are discussing my novel tomorrow night. And I am going to the group as guest author.

Yikes! I hope they liked it.

mr curly

It might be a bit different if it's your wife's group, but in my experience of having visited quite a few book clubs, they don't invite the author if they hated the book. And if the author comes, they are extremely polite/enthusiastic about the book. I always assume that anyone who really hated it just stays home if the author is coming. I've never once had anyone at a book club say they didn't like my book, so I'm pretty sure politeness is the rule. Hope your experience is good!!

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quote:
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It has just hit me that my wife's book group are discussing my novel tomorrow night. And I am going to the group as guest author.

Yikes! I hope they liked it.

Oh y'know it'll be the usual Orphic thing and you'll be torn limb from limb by wine-crazed maenads.
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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr Curly:
It has just hit me that my wife's book group are discussing my novel tomorrow night. And I am going to the group as guest author.

Yikes! I hope they liked it.

Oh y'know it'll be the usual Orphic thing and you'll be torn limb from limb by wine-crazed maenads.
Or there's that, I guess.

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They were very gentle and had all read the book. They seemed to like it, all said they couldn't put it down (it's a thriller), although it was good to hear the varying degrees to which they liked the ending and the various loose ends.

It was a big thrill listening to 8 people talk about the book, and to get ideas for future work bsed on reader feeback.

I plan to offer them a free pre-release copy of the next novel to get feedback on.

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So glad it went well!! I honestly find that book clubs are the best part of writing -- it's wonderful to discuss your book with people who have read it, thought about it and enjoy it.

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I am suffering from middle-itis.

My characters are up and running, locales and milieus have been established, there's been at least one murder and various mysteries have been adumbrated.... I have thought of various connection between characters and events which will be revealed at the end.

But I am only at 25k - no more than a third of the way.

So what do you do when you clearly need massive chunks of plot?

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Padding. Have your characters had a really good meal lately?

Also, angst is useful. In the last thing I wrote, there was an angsty sort of character having flashbacks and nostalgia trips. Once you get into describing that walk down the Corniche at sunset on a warm May night in 1968, the words just flow.

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Padding. Have your characters had a really good meal lately?

I'm not sure if this is a tongue in cheek comment, but it does work! Put the characters in a different setting and see how things play out.

When I couldn't think what to do next with my main characters (two teenage girls) I sent them clothes shopping. While they were in the shopping centre, it occurred to me how I could develop a sub-plot using that location.

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Ariel
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Well, I did suggest a feast for someone else once who got stuck in the middle of writing a historical novel for Nanowrimo. It worked beautifully, and two of the characters had a brief romance with each other. (I like to feel I was instrumental in bringing them together.) So you never know. Or, if you're feeling less romantic, one of them might choke on the roast swan baked with 40 cloves of garlic, or something - all sorts of possibilities.

Food is always useful. My last leading character managed to get out of a vegetarian cafe in post-apocalyptic Serbia and make it all the way to 21st century London, on the strength of some chickpea stew. (Don't ask.)

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Jengie jon

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My writers group leader would suggest you through some hurdle at them and saw how they dealt with it.

ideas
  1. Car accident
  2. Redundancy or sudden loss of money
  3. pet dying
  4. flood or other reason why sudden isolation occurs

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Firenze

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Padding. Have your characters had a really good meal lately?

No, but they're about to go to a social gathering at a stately home, so I may linger on the canapés.

Actually, since I posted this morning, I think my main character is about to be burgled - which will have the added advantage of reintroducing the policeman who's been offstage for a while. After that, who knows, she may need to take a break by visiting another city.

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Definitely try a hurdle or, even better, some conflict.

What about an argument over dinner? Something from the past comes up, an old relationship wound?

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North East Quine

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Originally posted by North East Quine:
I suspect someone wanting to read one of the Famous Author's warm and gently witty books might be dismayed to read about a bloodbath involving sword fights and mutant squirrels.

While at the same time confusing the actual seekers after squirrel ultraviolence. So best pick a name to alert them to a new kid on the block - Genghiz Nutkin?
Young Genghiz Nutkin's latest writing effort is in my sig. Fairy ultra-violence rather than squirrel ultra-violence this time.
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That short film which you referred to in your sig was actually quite good!

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Thank you!
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Ye Olde Nanowrimo is dedde, for Nanowrimo itsen liveth nat untill Novembre next.

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