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Thread: Anglicans in Fiddlebacks
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Enoch
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Speaking from experience, if you are even a little bit keck-handed, you can knock anything over. So I'm with Leo on this.
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malik3000
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
Fiddleback, sigh, weep, sigh.
Ugly and unEnglish - like cottas. Sell them to a fancy dress shop.
My sentiments exactly. (Even outside England, they are still ugly. My humble opinion of course!)
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Angloid
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Fiddlebacks are not designed to be seen from the front and look silly when worn at a westward facing celebration. But then most people who prefer them prefer ad orientem anyway.
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Vade Mecum
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Originally posted by malik3000:
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by Pyx_e:
Fiddleback, sigh, weep, sigh.
Ugly and unEnglish - like cottas. Sell them to a fancy dress shop.
My sentiments exactly. (Even outside England, they are still ugly. My humble opinion of course!)
Ugly is in the eye of the sacristan, of course, but the idea that they are un-English is ridiculous: there is nothing specifically English about Gothic chasubles either. Had we not left off wearing Mass vestments in the 16thC, the fiddleback would have been widely used here too, just as the Gothic was on the continent. And when Mass vestments were reintroduced, both types were used. The blasted/blessed Percy is responsible for the idea that there is something foreign about them, and he is Wrong About Almost Everything. He also says that lace is unmanly, which as bare a nineteenth century anachronism as I care not to see.
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Vade Mecum
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Originally posted by leo:
You blaspheme the name of the Most Blessed Perse!
Here I stand, I can do no other!
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I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
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Angloid
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Not in that context, certainly.
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Fr Weber
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Nor any other. It was invented by Roland Bainton because it made a snappy title for his book.
It's inscribed on the Luther Monument at Worms, which was erected in 1868--a good 36 years before Bainton's birth in 1894.
Luther may indeed have never said it. But the myth (if myth it be) predates the 20th century.
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Forthview
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When Luther was called upon at the Diet of Worms to retract his opinions, he said :Da.. mein Gewissen in den Worten Gottes gefangen ist,ich kann und will nichts widerrufen,weil es gefaehrlich und unmoeglich ist,etwas gegen das Gewissen zu tun. (Since my conscience is bound up in the Word of God,I cannot and will not retract anything,since it is dangerous and impossible to go against one's conscience).
Just as the various Gospel writers recorded the words of Jesus in slightly different ways,this became in popular language: Hier stehe ich,ich kann nicht anders.Gott helfe mir.Amen (Here I stand,I cannot do otherwise.God help me. Amen)
These words were put upon the monumental statue of Luther which now stands (fittingly) in front of the venerable Catholic cathedral in Worms.
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