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If terms containing two words are included, I hate hate hate "no problem", when "you're welcome" should be said.
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Indeed. I hate "no problem" when clearly there was no possible problem.
"Would you like a carrier bag?"
"No, thank you, I've brought my own."
"No problem."
Seriously, did I look as though I thought there might be a problem in not requiring a carrier bag? Do I seem in need of reassurance that there is no problem with using my own bag?
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Originally posted by Welease Woderwick:
As soon as I saw the title and before I read the OP my choice was work - but then I've been retired nigh on two decades!
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I consign all, or most, management speak to the bin but the word actualise used as management speak really aggravates me!
Speaking of which, when did we stop pressuring people to do stuff and start pressurizing them?
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Ariel
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
If terms containing two words are included
No, this is about single words you don't like. You (or anyone else) are welcome to start an entire new thread for phrases you hate. I'm sure it'll get a lot of mileage, going forward.
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Smart. Such as he or she looks smart, meaning well dressed. It always strikes me as better then looking dumb I guess.
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Stetson
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"Ignorant"
As used in statements like "That was ignorant behaviour you displayed at the party", or "Your ignorance of history is quite shocking".
Look, if you wanna say I'm rude or stupid, just come out and say I'm rude or stupid. Don't try to pass off your animosity as some detached factual observation about the state of my knowledge.
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Stetson
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I have a question.
Does the phrase "go on-line" predate the emergence of the internet in the early '90s? I ask, because I'm reading a book about technology and resources, written about five years ago, in which the writer repeatedly says things like "After France announced its nuclear-energy policy in the 1970s, many new reactors went on-line". Meaning, the reactors were built and put into operation.
To me, that seems anachronistic, even if we acknowledge that "on-line" can be extended to non-internet stuff. It still shouldn't be used to describe things that predate the internet.
(And yes, I know the internet was invented in the late 60s, but I don't think anyone was talking about "being on-line", in a cyber-sense, until the early 90s.)
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I believe I read about things going "online" before the internet. According to dictionary.com the term originated in the early forties. I remember hearing the term used about systems in the space programs in the sixties.
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Tree Bee
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Originally posted by Graven Image:
Smart. Such as he or she looks smart, meaning well dressed. It always strikes me as better then looking dumb I guess.
This pond difference works the other way too. In Canada I saw an advertisement which started with the statement, "I'm smart", meaning, I'm clever, which put my back up immediately; how arrogant!
For me, smart means either well turned out, or a stinging feeling.
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ThunderBunk
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Originally posted by Stetson:
I have a question.
Does the phrase "go on-line" predate the emergence of the internet in the early '90s? I ask, because I'm reading a book about technology and resources, written about five years ago, in which the writer repeatedly says things like "After France announced its nuclear-energy policy in the 1970s, many new reactors went on-line". Meaning, the reactors were built and put into operation.
To me, that seems anachronistic, even if we acknowledge that "on-line" can be extended to non-internet stuff. It still shouldn't be used to describe things that predate the internet.
(And yes, I know the internet was invented in the late 60s, but I don't think anyone was talking about "being on-line", in a cyber-sense, until the early 90s.)
Can't find a date for on-line, but off-line seems to date from 1926, originally used re. the railways (or railroad, if you prefer).
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"reach out" to someone, which apparently means "to talk to them"
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Worst word?
It's init, init?
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Stetson
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Lyda and Thunder:
Thanks. Guess I stand corrected.
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cliffdweller
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Originally posted by ThunderBunk:
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
I nominate all those meaningless corporate buzz-words that get thrown around and then picked up by churches to make us sound like we're actually doing something when we're not:
missional
visionary
collegial
networking
servant leadership
stewardship
study group
"smart" goals & objectives
Let them all be consigned to the fiery furnace. And "being church" along with them.
Or "doing life".
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cliffdweller
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A bit more delicate-- this is probably the only context in which I could mention it-- but I hate that suddenly "passed" is a substitute for "passed away". As in "grandma passed last night." It always makes me think of passing gas.
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Lamb Chopped
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"Bae." Really, was "Babe" (also obnoxious) so long you had to drop the freaking b to save time?
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Ignorance and stupidity are two very different things. Ignorance means lack of knowledge; stupidity means lack of ability to think.
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Jonah the Whale
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Originally posted by Tree Bee:
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Originally posted by Graven Image:
Smart. Such as he or she looks smart, meaning well dressed. It always strikes me as better then looking dumb I guess.
This pond difference works the other way too. In Canada I saw an advertisement which started with the statement, "I'm smart", meaning, I'm clever, which put my back up immediately; how arrogant!
For me, smart means either well turned out, or a stinging feeling.
Growing up in the UK I always felt that the primary meaning of "smart" was well-dressed. Turns out that usage is a relative neologism from the early 1700s. The "clever" meaning is more than twice as old.
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I have a particular loathing for the word DUDE. I find it low class, crude and disrespectful. It seems to have become a common form of address among the young men of my acquaintance, probably heard originally on tv, but once established it is hard to remove.
I also cringed during the Olympics to hear athletes described as MEDALLING rather than having won medals.
I also grieve the loss of the adverb eg a person is described as running slow instead of slowly. The examples of this change are legion.
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Stetson
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Ignorance and stupidity are two very different things. Ignorance means lack of knowledge; stupidity means lack of ability to think.
Yeah, but in the common parlance, the two are often used interchangably.
The Irrefutable Stupidity Of Sarah Palin
The writer uses examples such as her not knowing what Hamas is, which, properly speaking, would be an example of ignorance, not stupidity.
I suppose that there are legitimate cases where you would sincerely call someone ignorant, meaning lacking knowledge, and not mean it with the same insulting connotations that go with "stupid". In my experience, however, the word is usually not used in such an objective manner.
Personally, for the meaning of "lacking knowledge", I prefer to use "uninformed", which I don't think carries quite the same baggage as "ignorant".
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Stetson
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Oh, and am I the ONLY person who has a major issue with infantile words used to describe bodily functions and discharge, and related matters?
For example, the word for urine that rhymes with "me", the word for feces that rhymes with "you", and the word for "toilet" that rhymes "naughty".
I just can't understand why adults insist on using those words(especially the word for feces, which, unlike the word for urine, can't even be justified as an onomatopoeia). Is it some desire to re-live their childhood or something?
I wish we could just remove the taboo against using vulgar slang for the same things(eg. the words that rhyme with "miss" and "pit"), so people who don't like using the formal Latin words could start using those instead. Though, if I my theory about infantile regression is correct, I guess it wouldn't have the desired effect.
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Originally posted by bib:
I also grieve the loss of the adverb eg a person is described as running slow instead of slowly. The examples of this change are legion.
I am not keen on the use of "legendary" to describe a celebrated actor or musician, especially if they are still very much alive and kicking!
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
I am not keen on the use of "legendary" to describe a celebrated actor or musician, especially if they are still very much alive and kicking!
Well, maybe they are legendary. Have you ever met them? Can you be sure they are real?
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Well, the Prom concert I saw on the TV last week featured two "legendary" musicians, both of whom I've heard live and one of whom I've met (albeit many years ago).
Mind you, they could have been Doppelgangers, or very clever Virtual Reality holograms - but I doubt it! ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
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Clocks are described as running slow, I think. Rather than slowly.
One of my ex-pupils, died in a road accident aged 12, was described on the funeral service sheet as a legend. I think the word has developed a side use which people not of the culture which uses it do not understand. It will probably die out. (He was a very lovely boy and a great loss to the world, don't get me wrong.)
And with regards to Palin's ignorance - she was ignorant of things she should have known about, if she had done the homework necessary for the job she was touting for, so her ignorance was evidence of her stupidity.
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Eirenist
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'Iconic'; what's wrong with 'famous'?
And all olde worlde coinages, like 'Fayre' for 'fare' meaning food.
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Dartford Trinity Church is guilty of the 'Fayre' misnaming of their very nice little snack place. 'Fayre', to me, is a fake ancient spelling of 'Fair', and has its place on a Bank Holiday Monday or similar. But not for food. Even when partnered with 'Ye' and 'Olde'.
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Originally posted by Eirenist:
'Iconic'; what's wrong with 'famous'?
Thanks -- you just beat me to it!
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I offer up banterbury, bant, and lege, as words I could happily never hear again and really hope never make it into the dictionary.
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by Eirenist:
'Iconic'; what's wrong with 'famous'?
Thanks -- you just beat me to it!
One Direction are famous, they are not iconic.
Not expecting you to now like the word, but they are different.
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Leorning Cniht
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Originally posted by Stetson:
For example, the word for urine that rhymes with "me", the word for feces that rhymes with "you", and the word for "toilet" that rhymes "naughty".
Accents are weird. Next you're going to tell me that merry, marry and Mary all have the same vowel sound.
I don't particularly object to the words that you dislike, although to me, the word that doesn't rhyme with "naughty" refers to a portable device for small children, rather than to the porcelain throne.
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'Solutions' attached to each and every trade or business - I suppose to give an impression of daring and innovative plans fresh-minted just for you. I just passed 'Letting Solutions': listen, you're just common or garden letting agents pushing around the usual paperwork.
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Lamb Chopped
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Oh, and am I the ONLY person who has a major issue with infantile words used to describe bodily functions and discharge, and related matters?
For example, the word for urine that rhymes with "me", the word for feces that rhymes with "you", and the word for "toilet" that rhymes "naughty".
I just can't understand why adults insist on using those words(especially the word for feces, which, unlike the word for urine, can't even be justified as an onomatopoeia). Is it some desire to re-live their childhood or something?
I wish we could just remove the taboo against using vulgar slang for the same things(eg. the words that rhyme with "miss" and "pit"), so people who don't like using the formal Latin words could start using those instead. Though, if I my theory about infantile regression is correct, I guess it wouldn't have the desired effect.
We say "poo" or "poop" because there are WAY too many people out there, in way too many settings, who can't cope with hearing "shit" and don't have a clue what "feces" means. And "number 2" is even worse in the cutesy-twee sweepstakes.
Believe me, I loathe having to use childish words. But in many circumstances, it's that or lose my job/friendship/standing in that particular community/whatever.
Seriously, how am I to keep a straight face when I have to use circumlocutions like "The child used the f-bomb"? Among adults! But just try doing otherwise at a PTO meeting or similar.
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Originally posted by Curious Kitten:
I offer up banterbury, bant, and lege, as words I could happily never hear again and really hope never make it into the dictionary.
I guess I've been fortunate. I've never heard those words.
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Lyda*Rose
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Originally posted by Stetson:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
Ignorance and stupidity are two very different things. Ignorance means lack of knowledge; stupidity means lack of ability to think.
Yeah, but in the common parlance, the two are often used interchangably.
The Irrefutable Stupidity Of Sarah Palin
The writer uses examples such as her not knowing what Hamas is, which, properly speaking, would be an example of ignorance, not stupidity.
I suppose that there are legitimate cases where you would sincerely call someone ignorant, meaning lacking knowledge, and not mean it with the same insulting connotations that go with "stupid". In my experience, however, the word is usually not used in such an objective manner.
Personally, for the meaning of "lacking knowledge", I prefer to use "uninformed", which I don't think carries quite the same baggage as "ignorant".
Sarah Palin is stupid because she, even as a vice presidential candidate, never saw the point of becoming more knowledgeable about important policy issues. She wallowed in her ignorance.
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The use of devastated when one has suffered anything short of a terminal diagnosis. Yes, anything. Loss of a job, lousy exam results, repossession, all bad, but you can recover from those. Believe me, you can.
I have heard athletes describe themselves as "devastated" when they have finished fourth in an Olympic final, albeit in a personal best time. Fine, you can be disappointed. OTOH failing to buy a lottery ticket, or changing the usual numbers and thereby missing the jackpot is just tough. Pull your big girl panties up and get with it, as Erin used to say (IIRC).
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Sioni Sais
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Sarah Palin is stupid because she, even as a vice presidential candidate, never saw the point of becoming more knowledgeable about important policy issues. She wallowed in her ignorance.
In electoral terms it was her greatest asset. Heck, look at Trump.
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
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Originally posted by Stetson:
Oh, and am I the ONLY person who has a major issue with infantile words used to describe bodily functions and discharge, and related matters?
For example, the word for urine that rhymes with "me", the word for feces that rhymes with "you", and the word for "toilet" that rhymes "naughty".
I just can't understand why adults insist on using those words(especially the word for feces, which, unlike the word for urine, can't even be justified as an onomatopoeia). Is it some desire to re-live their childhood or something?
I wish we could just remove the taboo against using vulgar slang for the same things(eg. the words that rhyme with "miss" and "pit"), so people who don't like using the formal Latin words could start using those instead. Though, if I my theory about infantile regression is correct, I guess it wouldn't have the desired effect.
We say "poo" or "poop" because there are WAY too many people out there, in way too many settings, who can't cope with hearing "shit" and don't have a clue what "feces" means. And "number 2" is even worse in the cutesy-twee sweepstakes.
Believe me, I loathe having to use childish words. But in many circumstances, it's that or lose my job/friendship/standing in that particular community/whatever.
Seriously, how am I to keep a straight face when I have to use circumlocutions like "The child used the f-bomb"? Among adults! But just try doing otherwise at a PTO meeting or similar.
Perhaps the circumlocutions allow people to have less vivid sensory images of what is being produced in the activity? Less disrupting to others' appetites and sensibilities.
Myself, I prefer that the waste substance produced isn't named, but to refer the location or activity instead. "Going to the potty" (or toilet), is specific but doesn't elaborate on what exactly is being done (in Boy Scouts, we called it the kybo). In my view, "turd" is the worst word as it conjures excessive floating vividness in my nerdy brain.
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Leorning Cniht
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Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
Seriously, how am I to keep a straight face when I have to use circumlocutions like "The child used the f-bomb"? Among adults! But just try doing otherwise at a PTO meeting or similar.
Many years ago, my grandfather (who has long since passed away) was required to give evidence in court against someone who had assaulted him. The magistrate would not accept "first he cast aspersions on my parentage" in his account of what happened, and required him to repeat the actual words used.
Even though, much to my grandfather's mortification, there were ladies present. He once told me that being forced to repeat those words in open court was among the most embarrassing incidents of his life.
He was well aware what the words meant - he'd done his time in the army in the war, and no doubt both heard and used much worse - but not in mixed company.
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
Sarah Palin is stupid because she, even as a vice presidential candidate, never saw the point of becoming more knowledgeable about important policy issues. She wallowed in her ignorance.
In electoral terms it was her greatest asset. Heck, look at Trump.
sigh ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) If I gotta, I gotta.
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mousethief
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Stetson, you're confusing me. First you would prefer to be insulted with "stupid" instead of "ignorant." Then you say they mean the same thing. If they mean the same thing, why do you care which one is used to insult you?
Indeed, in your first post on the subject you say both that they are synonymous, and that someone calling you "ignorant" is making a comment on the supposed state of your knowledge. So does "ignorant" mean "stupid," or not?
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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
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Originally posted by Stetson:
For example, the word for urine that rhymes with "me", the word for feces that rhymes with "you", and the word for "toilet" that rhymes "naughty".
Accents are weird. Next you're going to tell me that merry, marry and Mary all have the same vowel sound.
If Stetson won't, I will. Those all have the same vowel sound in these parts.
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I have a particular loathing for the word DUDE. I find it low class, crude and disrespectful. It seems to have become a common form of address among the young men of my acquaintance, probably heard originally on tv, but once established it is hard to remove.
This is interesting. Why do you find it low-class? In the US west it's a vestige of cowboy days and doesn't carry any class connotations at all, unless you think surfers are lower class.
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
I believe I read about things going "online" before the internet. According to dictionary.com the term originated in the early forties. I remember hearing the term used about systems in the space programs in the sixties.
I think it was used (and is still used, AFAIK) in relation to factory machinery starting up for production, too. As in the machines might have been functional for a long time before they actually went "on line" for production.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Ricardus
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Go-to. As in 'I'll reach out to Mike, he's our go-to guy for best-in-class feasibility analysis.'
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Then the dog ran before, and coming as if he had brought the news, shewed his joy by his fawning and wagging his tail. -- Tobit 11:9 (Douai-Rheims)
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Trending, or even worse, trending up. (Meaning gaining popularity, especially on social media.)
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I have a particular loathing for the word DUDE.
In the US west it's a vestige of cowboy days and doesn't carry any class connotations.
I've heard the claim that it's from the Spanish dudo, "I doubt", as in "Dudo que sea un verdadero vaquero" (I doubt that he's a real cowboy). In that context it carries the connotation of poseur, faker, dandy.
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
I don't like the sound of "oily".
Generally I prefer the sound of words with hard consonants. I love the sound of "cuckoo clock" with its four hard ks. Soft consonants are fine in longer words, but I don't like the sound of short words with a preponderance of vowels and only soft consonants.
Yes, but if the word for 'oily' was not that but a word with hard consonants, perhaps it wouldn't really make it sound like what it is, if you see what I mean. 'Oily' sounds like what it is.
Don't you think that marshmallow sounds like what it is, all soft and mushy? It wouldn't be the same at all if it were called a klink-klonk..you would expect that to be a word for nuts or bolts, or spanners or something.
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Clocks are described as running slow, I think. Rather than slowly.
[Geek alert]
I believe this is what is called an 'adjectival resultative'. It is analogous to phrases like 'The grass grew tall' and describes what the subject was like as a result of the verb.
The grass grew tall = As a result of how the grass grew, it was tall.
The clock is running slow = As a result of how the clock runs, it is slow.
Granted, if a mechanical clock is running slow, then probably it's also running slowly, but the construction emphasises the result rather than the cause.
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Dartford Trinity Church is guilty of the 'Fayre' misnaming of their very nice little snack place. 'Fayre', to me, is a fake ancient spelling of 'Fair', and has its place on a Bank Holiday Monday or similar. But not for food. Even when partnered with 'Ye' and 'Olde'.
"I suppose they think if they spell it with a y more people will come."
(Susie Blake's snobbish newsreader on Victoria Wood's show.)
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Originally posted by Ricardus:
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Originally posted by Penny S:
Clocks are described as running slow, I think. Rather than slowly.
[Geek alert]
I believe this is what is called an 'adjectival resultative'. It is analogous to phrases like 'The grass grew tall' and describes what the subject was like as a result of the verb.
The grass grew tall = As a result of how the grass grew, it was tall.
The clock is running slow = As a result of how the clock runs, it is slow.
Granted, if a mechanical clock is running slow, then probably it's also running slowly, but the construction emphasises the result rather than the cause.
Ah, now that's interesting. In fact, is it the clock itself actually running slow or slowly, or is it the hands on the clock, or is it the mechanism whether mechanical or electical?
What, actually is a 'clock'?
I think we have to define exactly what we're talking about here before we can definitely say whether or not the 'clock' is running slow or slowly
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In fact, perhaps it would be simpler to rely on sundials..I don't suppose they run at all!?
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