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LeRoc
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Ad Orientem: Sorry, but I reckon that's the worst reasoning ever.
Are you going to tell me why?
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Ad Orientem
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It's just a crappy reason not to have the sacrament, because some people aren't able to partake of it. It's absurd. Shall we stop having the sacrament altogether so as not to upset the catechumens and penitents?
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Jon in the Nati
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Seems to me we've got it backwards. If we are in a non-open-communion context in which we also want people to not be offended (assuming, for the moment, that people are offended by this, which I doubt), then the answer that is obvious to me is that we must ensure that no one who is unable to partake in the Eucharist ever attends a celebration of the Eucharist.
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Autenrieth Road
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I'm pretty much with Forthview on this.
It seems to me that the "don't invite people to an event they can't participate in" reasoning misses a couple of things.
One, a church service is not a social party at which the bride and groom are the hosts. It's a religious event that's important to the bride and groom. For those who don't think weddings should have closed communion, do you also think a member of a closed communion church should not invite a friend to come to church with her to a communion service?
Two, there are lots of parts of a wedding, or any religious service, that not everyone gets to do the same thing as everyone else. The congregation doesn't go up in the pulpit to read the preacher's notes. At a funeral, while several people may be chosen to give remembrances, it's the rare funeral where everyone is then invited to share their own remembrances during the service (although I have experienced it). At most weddings I've been at, the congregation doesn't process down the aisle with the wedding party.
So it seems to me that there's something about what communion represents that leads to a position that it's wrong to have a wedding with communion where not everyone is permitted to take communion, that makes communion the flashpoint for "it's wrong to invite people to a service with a part that they're not allowed to participate in."
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LeRoc
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Ad Orientem: It's just a crappy reason not to have the sacrament, because some people aren't able to partake of it. It's absurd. Shall we stop having the sacrament altogether so as not to upset the catechumens and penitents?
I don't know who the catechuments and the penitents are.
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