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Screen Munch sounds like one of those 'Here's some crazy stuff we found on TV' programmes.
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I know brocolli is wrong when I've written it, but I still want to write it every time.
You probably don't need to write it at all.
What most in the UK call brocolli is actually calabrese whereas real broccoli looks like this.
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I have always understood that the calabrese is broccoli whereas the other specimens are known as broccolini. Well, that is how we refer to them where I live. I like broccoli but dislike broccolini.
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Never heard of broccolini - it sounds like a nasty infection in one's lungs.
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They're all cruciform vegetables, List here. Variations on one basic plant, where leaves and stems etc are emphasized in the species. Cruciform means cross-shaped and refers to the flowers. I have never seen a broc flower myself.
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Originally posted by Piglet:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
... I think "hte" should be in the dictionary - I can spell it, I just can't type it.
Along with tge, which is how it almost always comes out when I'm using the Tablet, causing swearing.
Clearly you'll need to give up that word for Lent. I don't mean the swear words so much as the one that causes them.
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The only way I can keep my deserts and desserts straight is that you might want to go for seconds if you have dessert!
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
They're all cruciform vegetables, List here. Variations on one basic plant, where leaves and stems etc are emphasized in the species. Cruciform means cross-shaped and refers to the flowers. I have never seen a broc flower myself.
Whew, I'm not the only one to write "cruciform" instead of "cruciferous" when referring to these vegetables! I did that once on a post somewhere. No one noticed, but I was embarrassed. Am I wrong to think "cruciform" is incorrect for the vegetable, then?
I mean, obviously I speak about churches more frequently than about vegetables! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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That's a good question!
Re the other ones, hte etc. "doe snot" No idea if this is a problem for deer.
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Originally posted by churchgeek:
The only way I can keep my deserts and desserts straight is that you might want to go for seconds if you have dessert!
Someone once suggested that desserts are "So Sweet."
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but I often want to spell "speech" as "speach" because, you know, it is "speak" not "speek."
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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
This weekend an American friend was running round in a panic asking "Have you seen Erin? We need Erin!", and I'm looking at her in a confused fashion and thinking "we don't have an Erin in our church. Is this a new person I don't know?"
Turns out she was looking for Aaron.
OK, I'm American. How do you pronounce them differently?
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For some reason the most common misspelling I find in my students' papers is "defiantly" when they mean "definitely". So I'll get things like, "I am defiantly confused about this" or "I am defiantly unsure about faith". I always picture them standing firmly, feet planted, fists upraised as they shout "I DON'T KNOW, DAMN IT!"
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
This weekend an American friend was running round in a panic asking "Have you seen Erin? We need Erin!", and I'm looking at her in a confused fashion and thinking "we don't have an Erin in our church. Is this a new person I don't know?"
Turns out she was looking for Aaron.
OK, I'm American. How do you pronounce them differently?
Erin = Erin
Aaron = air-on
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Another frequently heard pronunciation of Aaron in the UK is the same as the Scottish island of Arran.
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Originally posted by Gill H:
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
This weekend an American friend was running round in a panic asking "Have you seen Erin? We need Erin!", and I'm looking at her in a confused fashion and thinking "we don't have an Erin in our church. Is this a new person I don't know?"
Turns out she was looking for Aaron.
OK, I'm American. How do you pronounce them differently?
Erin = Erin
Aaron = air-on
Not helpful. "Air-on" is how we would pronounce "Erin".
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Originally posted by cliffdweller:
OK, I'm American. How do you pronounce them differently?
In my south of England accent, Aaron is "air-on", and Erin is a short E followed by "rin". Erin's vowels are the same as in denim.
If I can get the IPA right, I say Aaron as something like /ˈɛːɹ.ən/ or maybe /ˈɛəɹ.ən/and Erin as /ˈɛ.ɹɪn/. My American friend was saying /ˈɛɹ.ən/.
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In my US experience:
Erin = AIR-in or AIR-un
Aaron =AIR-un (or sometimes AIR-in)
IME, they're pronounced *more or less* the same, unless the wearer of the name pronounces it according to another language. (E.g., Irish, Hebrew.)
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LC said it perfectly. Erin would be the same vowels as denim.
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I agree with the foregoing [or forgoing?] no, the aforesaid comments:
In Aust: Erin is pronounced E as in egg, and rin as in ring but with out the g.
Aaron is pronounced either Air-on or occasionally A as in apple, and Ron as in "Oh Ron" from The Glums -a serial within the old radio series "Take it from Here" with June Whitfield, Jimmy Edwards and Dick Bentley. Alright, so I am old!
The question in my mind is how the young people are ever going to learn spelling when their own names are such a muddle.
I can think of at least 5 versions of Michael, including Miceal, Mykel, Mikel, Michel, Micheal, etc.
And as for the made up names. One day I am sure I will encounter Zaphod, but possibly not Beetlebrox. What happened to the days when priests refused to baptise children with outlandish names? I suppose that these children aren't christened any way.
I really do know one little boy called Tex Huckleberry. Poor thing. And another called Kale like the vegetable.
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In France the authorities are allowed to refuse to register a name if they think it's likely to cause suffering to the person.
I’m guessing it needs to be something quite bad for them to refuse, because there are still plenty of people called ridiculous things.
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Originally posted by Golden Key:
In my US experience:
Erin = AIR-in or AIR-un
Aaron =AIR-un (or sometimes AIR-in)
IME, they're pronounced *more or less* the same, unless the wearer of the name pronounces it according to another language. (E.g., Irish, Hebrew.)
I think that's the root of the problem. Names are taken from a variety of cultures which have different rules for language and pronunciation. Comparing "John" around the British Isles gives quite a variety: John, Sean, Sion and Ian: I'm sure there are others (and I haven't interfered with spelling yet) and that is all before one crosses the channel!
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Is it any wonder that we dyslexics have problems with English!
I never got more than 0/10 (usually -6 to -10!) in dictation at school. I was marked down from an A to a B in my Higher (A Level) English because of spelling! I'm not thick, in spite of being labelled as such, because I couldn't spell.
Good spelling is not a mark of intelligence - just of memorisation. Bad spelling didn't stop me ending up with a post-grad masters from one of the top unis in Britain. So spelling isn't everything.
In its historic development, English is a mixture of all sorts of languages. No wonder it is so difficult to spell.
I'm learning Welsh. Once you have grasped the phonics, different from English sound values, the words say as they are written (unlike English). Easy. It's the grammar and mutations that cause problems!!
Teachers of young children will tell you of the difficulties in teaching their pupils to read in English - especially children who have very logical brains. One phoneme will say one sound in one word but a completely different sound in another. As to diphthongs! I won't go there!
There are so many exceptions to the rules in English. You need to have both phonics and "look and say"/"red words"/exceptions that you just have to memorise.
Just think about: there/their/they're
Eek........................
40 years of teaching primary kids has turned my hair bright red!!!
No wonder foreigners find English so difficult.
Some languages, have a totally logical system of phonetics and one sound will have the same value in every word - unless it is a "loan word" from another language. So easy. Not so English.
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I'd say that usual UK usage is,
Erin = girl's name that is also a poetic name for 'Ireland', as in 'Isle of Erin'. Pronounced as Gill H, Leorning Cniht and Alieh have described.
Aaron = boy's name, brother of Moses, again pronounced as Gill H, Leorning Cniht and Alieh have described except that for clarity's sake, I'd say that the 'o' is usually a schwa, ǝ.
Arron = boy's name, sometimes spelt Aron, meaning and derivation unclear. It may be a corruption of Aaron or may be a misspelling of either the Scottish island (spelt Arran) or the Irish ones (Aran). Pronounced with a short 'a' and rhymes with Darren. The second syllable I think is universally ǝ, as it is in Darren.
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Wild Haggis, you posted while I was writing my post.
I agree with you that English spelling is a mess, and I'm not dyslexic. However, I think there may be a reason, apart from habit, why it may have remained that way.
I get the impression that compared with some other languages, English is quite strongly stressed. In unstressed syllables, the vowel almost disappears. Quite often, that also changes the pronunciation of the consonants round it. This means that quite a lot of words which are entirely regularly formed out of other words by having prefixes or endings put on them, might not look all that similar to the root word if they were spelt phonetically.
After all, Welsh does spell the mutations correctly, but everyone I've ever known who has learnt Welsh has complained that they are really difficult.
Although English speakers think English doesn't inflect all that much, it does go in quite a lot for adding prefixes like 'un', 'non', 'anti' and suffixes like 'ly', 'ify' 'ation', and 'ition'. It also strings them together like 'ification', and 'ingly'.
I suspect that phonetic spelling might make writing easier, but would make reading harder. It would perhaps be easier physically to read the words aloud from the page, but it could make it quite difficult to understand them at the same time, or to read them silently. It might make it very hard to guess what an unfamiliar long word meant.
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Among the papers I was grading today was one that was rife with spelling errors-- most of them homophones or near homophones-- to the tune of 7-8 per paragraph. I finally figured out the student must have written it on s tablet with autocorrect. Most hilarious was "chaotic church" for Catholic Church
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"chaotic church" ? As opposed to "messy church" ? which I see is on at my local Parish this Sunday at 9.30a.m.It's a family affair.
8 a.m. Eucharist here I come
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Thank you Enoch. I agree with you. English does inflect.
Welsh mutations: some are phonetically logical but it's remembering to put them in orally! (Reminds me must go and do my daily Welsh diary to help me learn................!)
Spelling who needs it with texting nowadays anyway!!! So says my dyslexic son.
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Bye the bye.
Enoch and anyone else in the area - did you feel the earthquack this afternoon?
Gosh talk about spelling - totally unintentionally (honest) I have written earth quack!!!!!
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Around Elizabethan times, English really was pronounced much closer to the way it is spelled, even though orthography hadn't really settled down at that point. The real problem for our age is the shift in pronunciation.
I guess there is no guarantee it won't go on changing, which raises the interesting point that even if we made it to be spelled phonetically accurate now, this discussion would nprobably have to take place all over again in 450 years time.
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HRB, that is a cheeringly optimistic comment from one who lives in a universe which includes the Trump family. ![[Ultra confused]](graemlins/confused2.gif)
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I think HRB must be right; that the language is constantly evolving. Our Australian Macquarie Dictionary lists the newest 100 words that now qualify for inclusion year by year, and a similar list of words whose usage has dwindled to nothingness. Most of the new terms appear to be tech related or derive from definitions as one man's stickers youth culture.
Already there are problems; but was ever thus.
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Originally posted by wild haggis:
Bye the bye.
Enoch and anyone else in the area - did you feel the earthquack this afternoon?
Gosh talk about spelling - totally unintentionally (honest) I have written earth quack!!!!!
There you go spelling!
I missed it as I was outside in the street at the time. People indoors felt it quite pronouncedly. One friend said it was more of a shake than the Lincolnshire one a few years ago was here. My son felt it markedly in Cardiff and was worried that it was a terrorism incident of some sort, but he was in a fairly confined space, and realised people round about outside hadn't noticed anything.
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Spelling was already non-phonetic in Shakespeare's time; a modern English speaker would have little difficulty with Elizabethan English. Now Chaucer - we even mispronounce his name because of language change; the first syllable should rhyme with Modern Eng. Cow. On the tangent the mutations are a non-issue to me compared with unpredictable gender, plurals and verb stem vs. the verb-noun (dweud/dywed-, rhedeg/rhed- cael/caf-/caw-) etc. My mind likes predictability and consistency.
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A bit of a tangent perhaps, but in the early days of spellcheckers I had a secretary, who was terrible at spelling, that used to add her spellings to the dictionary. Another colleague used to have to correct the dictionary every evening after she had gone home! (This is at a date when there was just one computer in our architects office, so probably 1988, Word Perfect?)
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Originally posted by geroff:
A bit of a tangent perhaps, but in the early days of spellcheckers I had a secretary, who was terrible at spelling, that used to add her spellings to the dictionary. Another colleague used to have to correct the dictionary every evening after she had gone home! (This is at a date when there was just one computer in our architects office, so probably 1988, Word Perfect?)
This sounds like the co-worker I mentioned in Post #26 -- only it was a parish office, not an architect. Maybe they're related. (It was in 1985-86.)
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If you are dyslexic dictionaries aren't too much help. Spell checkers are much better.
I hate it when people judge you because you can't spell. It usually isn't your fault but to do with how your brain is wired.
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I'm always puzzled by people who say they know who English was spoken in Shakespeare's time. They didn't have recordings. How can we tell the audible sounds form the written? We can only guess and we might be very wrong.
Vowels are particularly bad as the same grapheme can be pronounced differently in different parts of the country.
Maybe we have discovered some magical recordings from Shakespeare's time!
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Originally posted by wild haggis:
I'm always puzzled by people who say they know [how] English was spoken in Shakespeare's time.
People who know more about these things than I do can pick up hints of pronunciation by studying the plays. The way they're written can often indicate which words rhyme, which syllables are stressed, etc. Even his many puns tell us a lot. Obviously it's not 100% accurate, but the Bard did give us a lot of leads.
Oops! Bad thread for a misspelling!
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I suppose it's also possible that in Shakespeare's day pronunciation (and spelling) may have been more regional than it is today. Although he worked in London, would he have written his plays and poetry with a West Midlands accent?
I'm trying not to imagine To be or not to be sounding like someone from Crossroads ... ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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I have seen a production of Shakespeare in original pronunciation, Henry V, which was being studied as among the soldiers are English, Scots and Welshmen and the script gives hints as to their accents. The performance was prefaced by a discussion between David and Ben Crystal. (If anyone wants to look it up, the company is Passion in Practice, led by Ben Crystal, son of David Crystal, the linguist.)
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which I suppose leads us to the great vowel shift. Always sounded very uncomfortable to me. I am still not quite sure I have the hang of it. I shall consult Google and Wikipedia, those founts of all knowledge, whether accurate or speculative.
I always spell Wikipedia as Wikioaedia , and it corrects me every time.
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I Typed WIKIPADIA; this time it emerged without the p, and with an O. I admit that this might have been my typing error.
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Originally posted by jacobsen:
I'm with Eutychus on the -ize/ise divide. Even my spell checker agrees with me. And "focussed" with a double s is logical, whereas "focused" is not.
But then, who said that English is a logical language?
As I have only started reading this thread this morning, this question has probably been responded to already, but I'll just write anyway.
If a two-syllable word such as focus, or pilot, needs a suffix, the rule is if the accent is on the first syllable, do not double the end letter, if it is on the second syllable, double the letter.
e.g. focus - focusing, pilot - piloted, omit - omitted, forget - forgetting,
Exception: Always double l, whether the accent is on first or second syllable.
e.g. level - levelled, control - controlled.
When I was teaching, I found in a cupboard in the staff room a few books, whose titles I now forget, which explained this and various other rules which was a delight to read. There were quite a few teachers who did not know the full rules too!! I parted with them only years after I'd left teaching as I knew they had gone to a good home!
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Originally posted by Hedgehog:
I stumble over describing my brother's daughter. "Niece" but I am likely to write "neice." Yes, I know the old "i" before "e" rule, but some words are weird. Or wierd. Whatever.
This has almost certainly been responded to too, but hope you don't mind my just popping in with :
I before e except after c
when the ie rhymes with me
weird, weir and seize were the exceptions listed in that book also names Sheila, Keith etc.
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SusanDoris
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Originally posted by M.:
'The rough coated dough faced ploughboy walked coughing and hiccoughing through the streets of Scarborough' is what I learnt.
I'm another who has always been quite good at spelling, and love the eccentricity of it. But I'm also* another who only learnt how to spell 'necessary' when I learnt the Latin!
M.
*which usually comes out as 'alos' when I type.
One of the things I think is brilliant about my software is that Synthetic Dave pronounces all the 'ough' words in your first sentence correctly! It gets a bit muddled with read (reed) and read (red) but that's okay!
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SusanDoris
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Originally posted by balaam:
I needed the word practise. I never fail to get that one wrong.
For English spellers there's a nice mnemonic:
practiCe = Noun; practiSe = Verb.
Take the C, N, S, V and they're nicely alphabetical!
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Gill H
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Or replace the word temporarily with ‘advice/advise’ which follows the same rules.
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SusanDoris
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Originally posted by Gill H:
Or replace the word temporarily with ‘advice/advise’ which follows the same rules.
Yes - if I remember correctly there are only a few in that group, device/devise, licence/license
I googled and clicked on a link to a spelling page and I thought I had posted a comment, but it does not seem to have appeared!
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by SusanDoris:
For English spellers there's a nice mnemonic:
practiCe = Noun; practiSe = Verb.
Take the C, N, S, V and they're nicely alphabetical!
That would work for 'prophecy' and 'prophesy' as well.
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