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LeRoc
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RuthW: Everyone is free to post their views on the Faithfree board, controversial or otherwise. Faithfree has a specific area of interest and a particular ethos, but it is not a private board for faithfree shipmates.
I'm sorry, but that's not enough to quell my doubts. The issue isn't that IngoB posted controversial views there, the issue is that he posted controversial faith views on a board where the specific area of interest is non-faith (I'm simplifying things here), and whether we should have a lengthy discussion with him (discussions with IngoB are always lengthy) on these views on that board.
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
Indeed, some of his posts there are about points on which I've battled him for weeks last year (in which he used his usual debating tricks). ... Again, maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think Faithfree is the place where IngoB and me should battle about the fine points of theodicy for 20 pages.
LeRoc, is there any place where we should do that? Perhaps a few weeks and half a dozen pages are really quite enough?
Anyway, my own take on Christianity is rather close to what many "faithfree" people would consider as standard arguments against faith (in the Christian God). So on theodicy I think I am a better fit to the "Faithfree" board than most contemporary Christians are.
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LeRoc
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IngoB: LeRoc, is there any place where we should do that? Perhaps a few weeks and half a dozen pages are really quite enough?
Once again, just a few pages earlier on this same thread you said that you could go on forever on these topics. You even challenged me to do so. So, which is it?
And you're right, a few weeks and half a dozen pages haven't been enough to get you to answer a point I've been making.
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Kelly Alves
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Here's a nutty idea, next time IngoB posts a five paragraph essay that you don't want to engage with, scroll back and quote a post you do want to engage with, and skip the debate over theodicy altogether.
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: Here's a nutty idea, next time IngoB posts a five paragraph essay that you don't want to engage with, scroll back and quote a post you do want to engage with, and skip the debate over theodicy altogether.
Er ...? This is a non-sequitur. It is not that I don't want to engage him about theodicy, the reason is that I don't think I should on that particular board. This creates an assymetry. He gets room to put his views on that board, but it isn't really the place to debate it with him there.
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Kelly Alves
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If you don't think you should, then don't. Ruth and the Hosts have made it clear he is breaking no rules, so next comes how you want to handle it. I personally have found the above technique helpful in lowering the blood pressure and helping get a productive conversation going.
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: If you don't think you should, then don't. Ruth and the Hosts have made it clear he is breaking no rules, so next comes how you want to handle it.
So, what are you saying? Is it alright if I attack IngoB about his views on theodicy on the Faithfree board, and we have a (possibly lengthy) discussion between two Christians with different views on that topic there? If this is so, then I have indeed misunderstood the intent of that board.
What about PSA? Is it ok if I have a lengthy discussion with Ad Orientem on the Faithfree board about PSA?
Because I think Purgatory is the place where I should do these things, not Faithfree.
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
This creates an assymetry.
Love the typo! It does indeed!
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LeRoc
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mousethief: Love the typo! It does indeed!
Haha, the Portuguese word is assimetria with two s'es and one m, hence my error.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
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Kelly Alves: If you don't think you should, then don't. Ruth and the Hosts have made it clear he is breaking no rules, so next comes how you want to handle it.
So, what are you saying? Is it alright if I attack IngoB about his views on theodicy on the Faithfree board, and we have a (possibly lengthy) discussion between two Christians with different views on that topic there? If this is so, then I have indeed misunderstood the intent of that board.
What about PSA? Is it ok if I have a lengthy discussion with Ad Orientem on the Faithfree board about PSA?
Because I think Purgatory is the place where I should do these things, not Faithfree.
So, you just choosing not to engage a discussion you think is tangential is not an option.
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Originally posted by Twilight:
Well I haven't read the thread at all because, seriously you guys, eleven pages?
You missed it, then. Somewhere in the last couple of pages Pyx_e performed a miracle and got IngoB to engage playfully on the Ship.
(good to see ya! where ya been hiding? we thought you didn't love us anymore).
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: So, you just choosing not to engage a discussion you think is tangential is not an option.
Well, you'll have to admit it is a bit unsatisfactory. If IngoB gets to make six posts about a faith topic on a non-faith board and I disagree with him, yes I could just let it go. But I think you can also understand that I might want to attack him on it. Hence my question: can I attack him on it there? Can two Christians have a discussion about it there?
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Kelly Alves
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If you are asking about the Faithfree board policy, go ask about it on the designated thread on the Faithfree board. It doesn't feel respectful for me to do anything other than point out that a Host and a designated Admin stated above that Bingo wasn't breaking any rules.
My point, if there are six or seven other people on the thread who are willing to work with you, why get an ulcer over the one guy who won't? I don't care how big the post is, scroll past it and focus on the people who are worth focusing on. That fits any of the boards.
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: My point, if there are six or seven other people on the thread who are willing to work with you, why get an ulcer over the one guy who won't?
(Is it ok if I still answer here? I'll take it to the Styx if you prefer.)
I don't have an ulcer, I can assure you. The temperature is nice here (it always is in Brazil in the evening), I'm sitting here with a nice glass and wine looking out over some palm trees while Bob Marley is singing Redemption Song on my loudspeakers. I'm actually posting on the Ship procrastinating about things I really should do, so that's ok too.
The thing is that IngoB is basically getting a free ticket here. I compare the Eighth Day board with the other Ship boards on specialised topics: Ecclesantics, Kerygmania ... These boards are normally kept on topic by the Hosts. If someone would start posting about theodicy on any of these boards, (s)he would probably be gently invited by the hosts to take it to Purgatory.
Partly, this is in order to keep the special topic boards 'pure'. Ecclesiantics should be about whether the priest is lifting the thurible with the right finger, Kerygmaniac should be about whether a certain Greek word says that the BVM has been menstruating. I get that.
But part of pointing a theodicy post to Purgatory is also that if someone doesn't agree with it, it can be properly answered there. The Eccles and Keryg hosts don't want to stifle a discussion about theodicy, they just don't want it on their boards, so they direct it to Purgatory, often even before someone has actually disagreed with the theodicy post.
Here however, IngoB gets to make six(!) posts about his views on theodicy (etc. I'm just using theodicy as an example here) on a board that I don't think is intended for discussions between Christians about theodicy. That is my problem: he gets to make these posts on a board that isn't really suited to answer them.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
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Kelly Alves: My point, if there are six or seven other people on the thread who are willing to work with you, why get an ulcer over the one guy who won't?
(Is it ok if I still answer here? I'll take it to the Styx if you prefer.)\
I note you didn't wait for an answer.
I personally don't feel comfortable discussing Faithfree hosting policy in freaking Hell. It feels hugely disrespectful-- to me. Therefore I am going to follow my own advice, scroll past everything else in your post, and stop engaging.
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saysay
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
Here however, IngoB gets to make six(!) posts about his views on theodicy (etc. I'm just using theodicy as an example here) on a board that I don't think is intended for discussions between Christians about theodicy. That is my problem: he gets to make these posts on a board that isn't really suited to answer them.
When a tangent develops that doesn't seem to belong on a particular board, I've seen people start a thread on the appropriate board by copying and pasting the relevant posts. Would that be an option?
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Lamb Chopped
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It sounds like you're having an issue with the hosting of Faithfree. Or possibly, that you're imagining you would have a future.n issue with the hosting of Faithfree, should you decide to engage with IngoB on that particular thread. Maybe you should try it and see whether an issue develops or not.
By the way, it's mildly concerning that you keep repeating the word "attack" when you mean (I hope you mean) "engage in debate with." Here would be the place to do your attacking.
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Er, this is what I've been up to (book).
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: I note you didn't wait for an answer.
I understand a bit where you're coming from and I definitely don't want to dis the Faithfree hosts but I'm sorry, if two Admins already have engaged me about this here in Hell, it's a bit awkward to start chiding me for having this discussion here now.
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saysay: When a tangent develops that doesn't seem to belong on a particular board, I've seen people start a thread on the appropriate board by copying and pasting the relevant posts. Would that be an option?
I've considered that, but that isn't really satisfactory either. If IngoB gets to make six posts I don't agree with and various people say how insightful he is on a board where I don't feel I can answer him, writing a line inviting him to Purgatory doesn't really cut it.
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LeRoc
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Lamb Chopped: Maybe you should try it and see whether an issue develops or not.
I've considered that, but it isn't really my style. I think Ship policies say we should try to discover the feel of each board, not try things out and see if we get a warning from the Hosts.
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Lamb Chopped: By the way, it's mildly concerning that you keep repeating the word "attack" when you mean (I hope you mean) "engage in debate with." Here would be the place to do your attacking.
That's just semantics. When I say 'attacking', I mean engaging with IngoB's topics in a Purgatorial way. I think I explained this a couple of posts before this one.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
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Kelly Alves: I note you didn't wait for an answer.
I understand a bit where you're coming from and I definitely don't want to dis the Faithfree hosts but I'm sorry, if two Admins already have engaged me about this here in Hell, it's a bit awkward to start chiding me for having this discussion here now.
Chiding. I was telling you what my boundaries were. I wasn't chiding you for adding to a discussion already in progress. If I was chiding you for anything it was for pretending you cared what my boundaries might be and then running past without finding out what they were.
That's just a dick move, policies or no policies.
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: Chiding. I was telling you what my boundaries were. I wasn't chiding you for adding to a discussion already in progress. If I was chiding you for anything it was for pretending you cared what my boundaries might be and then running past without finding out what they were.
"I note you didn't wait for an answer" sounds like chiding to me. You should see the face my mother made the times she told me this when I was younger.
When I was asking about taking it to the Styx, it wasn't in an attempt to be careful about your personal boundaries. It's not that I don't care about them, I just wasn't addressing them here. I was asking about it to check with Ship policies. This topic has moved from being Hellish to becoming more Styctic, partly because of two Admins posting on it (in their Shipmate capacity, but still). I was just keeping my finger on the pulse if it is still ok to post here.
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
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Kelly Alves: Chiding. I was telling you what my boundaries were. I wasn't chiding you for adding to a discussion already in progress. If I was chiding you for anything it was for pretending you cared what my boundaries might be and then running past without finding out what they were.
"I note you didn't wait for an answer" sounds like chiding to me. You should see the face my mother made the times she told me this when I was younger.
When I was asking about taking it to the Styx, it wasn't in an attempt to be careful about your personal boundaries. It's not that I don't care about them, I just wasn't addressing them here. I was asking about it to check with Ship policies. This topic has moved from being Hellish to becoming more Styctic, partly because of two Admins posting on it (in their Shipmate capacity, but still). I was just keeping my finger on the pulse if it is still ok to post here.
I said I won't discuss board policy issues here. What the HellHosts decided about this discussion is their call.
I will however, discuss your skittery little ass till the cows come home!
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Picture any look that you want, dude, I am a teacher, and I have a full repertoire of "looks." I tell you one thing, if we were sitting at a dinner table and said "Are you done with the salt thank you!" and snatched it out of my hand without waiting for an answer, you would get a pretty scorching look.
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: I will however, discuss your skittery little ass till the cows come home!
Careful, you might get distracted.
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Kelly Alves: Picture any look that you want, dude, I am a teacher, and I have a full repertoire of "looks." I tell you one thing, if we were sitting at a dinner table and said "Are you done with the salt thank you!" and snatched it out of my hand without waiting for an answer, you would get a pretty scorching look.
I've been a teacher too, and I can out-look you. I was normally working with children with ADHD, behavioural problems etc. One game we did between colleagues when entering a noisy classroom, was how fast on getting we could get them completely silent without saying a word to them, on looks alone. My record is under 1.5 minute.
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
I've been a teacher too, and I can out-look you.
The FUCK you can. Buddy, it's ON!
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OK, my last point is just to say that you chimed in on this thread to express your thoughts on the annoying annoyingness of Bingo, and when of the course of such proclamations you do something mighty annoying, you kind of paint a target right on your ass.
And(IMVHO) to start a post with (say) "Is it OK to talk about the Oscars here?" only to launch into a full paragraph about the Oscars, is easily as annoying as anything Bingo has ever done. So maybe we annoying folk can just embrace him as a brother in arms. One day it will be our turn to piss someone off, too.
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: And(IMVHO) to start a post with (say) "Is it OK to talk about the Oscars here?" only to launch into a full paragraph about the Oscars, is easily as annoying as anything Bingo has ever done.
But there is another aspect to this: I was answering a question you asked me.
Suppose that we are in a place where I don't feel it's really appropriate to talk about the Oscars. (During the Golden Bear awards in Berlin for example.) You ask me a question about the Oscars. I answer you (beause that's the polite thing to do), but I also whisper as an aside to you: "Is it really ok to talk about the Oscars here?"
That's what happened on the previous page.
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Kelly Alves: So maybe we annoying folk can just embrace him as a brother in arms.
No thank you, I'll pass on that one.
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
If IngoB gets to make six posts I don't agree with -
So, are you really saying that you're mostly angered that he was allowed to post?
The petty griping about IngoB's use of standard debate tactics was bad enough, or whines that he engages selectively was pathetically understandable. But to begrudge him simple participation?
You suck.
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LeRoc
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RooK: So, are you really saying that you're mostly angered that he was allowed to post?
No, it's that he was allowed to post in a place where I didn't feel I could engage him.
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
If IngoB gets to make six posts I don't agree with and various people say how insightful he is on a board where I don't feel I can answer him, writing a line inviting him to Purgatory doesn't really cut it.
You seem to suggest that I found a sneaky way of evading your rhetorical counterattack on theodicy by hiding behind your idealistic scruples about cutting loose on the "Faithfree" board. Well, I'm afraid that I can't lay claim to that piece of tactical genius, as much as I would like to. I was contributing to a thread about Mr Fry's usage of theodicy, and got asked what I thought about theodicy myself. So I answered that, and the follow-on questions as well. That's all. You haven't even posted on that thread... and I certainly wasn't thinking of you in my posts there in any way, shape or form.
I'm also curious why you stress repeatedly that people found my contributions insightful, as if this was some kind of special added insult to you. Are you just being petty, or is that envy?
Anyway, you could simply make a post on that thread, and see how the local hosts react. There's a bit of a queue of people wanting to get a response from me though, and I'm not making any promises about reacting to you. But some other people might find your thoughts insightful, you never know...
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
Suppose that we are in a place where I don't feel it's really appropriate to talk about the Oscars. (During the Golden Bear awards in Berlin for example.) You ask me a question about the Oscars. I answer you (beause that's the polite thing to do), but I also whisper as an aside to you: "Is it really ok to talk about the Oscars here?"
That's what happened on the previous page.
Dude, you are high. This is the post I posted DIRECTLY BEFORE your "whispered aside":
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If you are asking about the Faithfree board policy, go ask about it on the designated thread on the Faithfree board. It doesn't feel respectful for me to do anything other than point out that a Host and a designated Admin stated above that Bingo wasn't breaking any rules.
My point, if there are six or seven other people on the thread who are willing to work with you, why get an ulcer over the one guy who won't? I don't care how big the post is, scroll past it and focus on the people who are worth focusing on. That fits any of the boards.
How could I have made it any clearer that I was not comfortable having this discussion???!!
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RooK: So, are you really saying that you're mostly angered that he was allowed to post?
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
No, it's that he was allowed to post in a place where I didn't feel I could engage him.
It sounds to me like you are going to have to find some other way to cope with that. Other people were engaging with him there and seemed to be doing fine with it. I didn't particularly feel like engaging IngoB on that thread either. So guess what I did?
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
I said I won't discuss board policy issues here. What the HellHosts decided about this discussion is their call.
Which we will discuss backstage.
Don't be surprised if we petition to have every single one of you planked.
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I'm sure I speak for many of us in noting what a very exceptional job hell hosts do under such very trying circumstances. One wonders how they could possibly manage to stay sane under the pressure.
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ɯqıɿou uoɿıqɯ nojidm mdijon
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Erroneous Monk
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quote:
Originally posted by Tortuf:
Well, I may not be all that bright...
... but I know how to hold you tight...
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LeRoc
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Kelly Alves: Dude, you are high. This is the post I posted DIRECTLY BEFORE your "whispered aside":
I wish I were. You said you preferred not to discuss Faithfree board policy, and then in the same post asked me a question to which my answer has to do with Faithfree board policy. But on a Monday morning many things look different, and I can see that I could have been a more sensitive there. I apologise.
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IngoB: You seem to suggest that I found a sneaky way of evading your rhetorical counterattack on theodicy by hiding behind your idealistic scruples about cutting loose on the "Faithfree" board. Well, I'm afraid that I can't lay claim to that piece of tactical genius, as much as I would like to.
I grant that you may have been posting in good faith there. A little embarrasment ("Are we supposed to be discussing theodicy on this board?") would have been nice, but maybe that's too much to expect. Still, I think the boundaries on that board aren't exactly clear. Which is ok, because it's an experimental board.
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I know why God made the rhinoceros, it's because He couldn't see the rhinoceros, so He made the rhinoceros to be able to see it. (Clarice Lispector)
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Just to say that I think IngoB has been quite interesting recently on the thread in question.
Hopelessly and awfully wrong, but interesting.
Which goes to show - when he wants to, he can actually engage in interesting conversation.
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orfeo
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Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
What the HellHosts decided about this discussion is their call.
Are we there yet?
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Kelly Alves
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I have no idea why I put that in the past tense, but yeah, shutting up.
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Doc Tor
Deepest Red
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Hell's teeth, this is tedious.
I don't know, other boards, coming over here, discussing their business. Go home.
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lilBuddha
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Hell's teeth?
That is what Hellhosts call cursing?
If that is in copy of the Hosting manual, I think you might have gotten punk'd.
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Hallellou, hallellou
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orfeo
Ship's Musical Counterpoint
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He could just be lulling you into a false sense of security.
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Technology has brought us all closer together. Turns out a lot of the people you meet as a result are complete idiots.
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Doc Tor
Deepest Red
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Oh, I can barely raise the energy to type coherently. This thread is like a black hole for hope.
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And here I thought we'd assigned that role to IngoB.
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Spiggott: Everything I've ever told you is a lie, including that.
Moon: Including what?
Spiggott: That everything I've ever told you is a lie.
Moon: That's not true!
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Golden Key
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{Roasts marshmallows over the fires of Hell, makes S'mores, and hands them to long-suffering H/As.}
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Blessed Gator, pray for us!
--"Oh bat bladders, do you have to bring common sense into this?" (Dragon, "Jane & the Dragon")
--"Oh, Peace Train, save this country!" (Yusuf/Cat Stevens, "Peace Train")
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lilBuddha
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Long suffering...hmmmm. You are assuming the premise that they invited to their situation rather than sentenced.
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Hallellou, hallellou
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RooK
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Long suffering...hmmmm. You are assuming the premise that they invited to their situation rather than sentenced.
...because people don't suffer their sentences?
It's a pearl of stupid. How does one go about polishing their raw, muddy stupidity so?
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lilBuddha
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My apologies, princess.
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Hallellou, hallellou
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Fr Weber
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Yorick:
even if I stand alone as a single person in a Ship full of others who always find his contributions entirely unhelpful
You don't.
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"The Eucharist is not a play, and you're not Jesus."
--Sr Theresa Koernke, IHM
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Kelly Alves
Bunny with an axe
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A suggestion has been made that the brilliance of this thread be preserved, and Team Hell concurs. Therefore we are taking advantage of this momentary lull to shifty this thread to Limbo.
Hope y'all had fun! See you next time...
Kelly Alves
Admin
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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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