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chive
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I have toothache. Not slightly irritating toothache, not a wee nagging pain. Toothache from the bowels of hell that has now kept me awake since Thursday.
I've had this toothache since August. The tooth needs to come out. Because of my madness this needs to be done under sedation. The current waiting list for this to be done on the NHS is six fucking months. Oh sorry no, that's not the waiting list for my tooth to be removed, that's the waiting list to discuss removing it. After that I go on a waiting list for it to actually happen. That waiting list is of unknown length.
Today I've been to the emergency dentist yet again and I'm now on my fifth course of antibiotics since August. I'm entirely sure they will make everything better because the other four courses worked so damn well. I thought the use of antibiotics was meant to be being reduced but no, just hand them out and she might go away without us having to do anything bloody useful that might make her actually better. And antibiotics give me the fucking skitters.
I contacted a private dentist who did sedation. They said it would cost £500. I thought that was a shit load of money but compared with the shit load of pain I'm in, I'd happily pay for it. But no, because of the tablets I'm on for the mental they can't do it. And they charged me £28 to tell me that.
The toothache is literally driving me insane. Months and months of waking up every night in pain, that is the nights I actually get to sleep in the first place. Months of having to be careful what I eat. Months of being a stroppy cow because I hurt so fucking much.
I still don't even have a date to discuss the sedation let alone to get my tooth out. I need to get rid of this fucker which is destroying my life. I need someone to pop round, twat me on the head with a hammer, and get out the pliers. I can't wait God knows how many more months before I get rid of it.
I love the NHS. They are entirely a good thing but NHS dentistry can fuck themselves backwards with a trombone for their fucking uselessness.
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The main problem with NHS dentistry is that it's not NHS enough. We need publically employed dentists and national planning of dentist numbers, same as we do doctors. I'm glad to be north of the border, the situation is slightly better here.
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When my children were still children, our dentist went private. We got a charming letter stating that they would see children whatever the decision but implying that the children of people who joined the relevant dental health insurance scheme might be seen more promptly.
At the time, I had quite a few colleagues who were going through apparent agonies on the NHS scheme which they were still having to pay for and pay quite a lot. I totted up what colleagues were paying for NHS treatment and compared it with the cost of the private plan. The private plan came out as well worth it, perhaps because I have relatively good teeth. So I paid up.
But this isn't privatisation by the back door, it's privatisation by the trashy cod neo-classical front door, complete with doric columns and a twee carriage light. And the same now with Opticians. I fucking hate what successive governments have done to the NHS - it sickens me. ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
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Yes, my dentist went private, and I have good teeth, so I haven't been too much under the cosh. But the NHS dentists in my area seem quite good, by all accounts.
But last time I broke a tooth - £800 for a crown!
Wow, Chive, this sounds a terrible situation. I'm trying to think of a solution.
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I'm north of the border, and have a friend in a similar situation. Ideally, she'd like a full anesthetic, but there's a two year waiting list for that.
They can't extract the tooth while it's infected, so they have to co-ordinate the anti-biotics to clear up the infection with the available slots for sedation. She's currently on her fourth lot of anti-biotics since the start of September. She has an appointment this week, but if there's any infection they can't extract it (though she also needs fillings, and they will be able to do those under sedation.) Anyway, she has three different appointments booked, in the hope that one will co-ordinate with her tooth being infection free.
She thought the nine week wait for the appointment to discuss sedation, then three weeks till the first of her three appointments was bad enough, but six months just to discuss it?
My kids (aged 19 and 17, both in full time education) are free on the NHS. I'm £24 for my six monthly check up, and was £210 all told for three appointments which included anti-biotics and root canal. I love my dentist.
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Did not realize the NHS includes dentistry. In Canada, dentists are all private, with the lucky people those whose work-based insurance pays it or part of it. If I recall correctly it was close to $4,000 for one of my kid's difficult wisdom teeth with the sleepy time. So sympathy for the pain, but none for the costs.
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Chive, do you live anywhere near a dental school? They can often offer quicker, and free treatment from students who are very well supervised by expert dental surgeons. I know the thought of putting yourself in the hands of a student is daunting but because of the level of supervision the standards are actually very high. Worth a thought.
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Originally posted by no prophet:
Did not realize the NHS includes dentistry. In Canada, dentists are all private, with the lucky people those whose work-based insurance pays it or part of it. If I recall correctly it was close to $4,000 for one of my kid's difficult wisdom teeth with the sleepy time. So sympathy for the pain, but none for the costs.
Just because you are in same boat payment-wise, you can't find sympathy for her predicament? ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
Very, very sorry, Chive. I couldn't imagine months of such pain. Weeks of it was hard enough for me. ![[Votive]](graemlins/votive.gif)
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I don't know how the system works, but couldn't you cross a border somewhere? Scotland has already been mentioned, there's Ireland and there must be private clincs in countries like Belgium or the Netherlands where people speak English.
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Seems to me you should have a word with your doctor, Chive. The NHS has a duty of care towards you and it's not entirely unheard of to have a tooth removed in a hospital. (I have done so myself on one occasion)
Alternatively they may be able to change your medication if that is the thing that is reducing your options.
I feel for you though, toothache is horribly debilitating and that's why I think a doctor should know about this, especially if the dentist route is becoming problematic as it is.
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I now need to add to the joy I'm experiencing. Started taking antibiotic then oh fuck, breathing problems, itchiness etc etc. Spent the last couple hours at the local hospital where it appears that, due to the large amounts of penicillin I have consumed over the last wee while, I have now developed a quite serious allergy to it. So now no antibiotics but shit loads of antihistamines and steroids.
So now I have horrible pain, no sleep, breathing shitty (although better than it was) and I itch like I've been squatted by an extended family of fleas. And I still have no date to get my fucking teeth out.
I swear it would be cheaper for them to just fucking do it as opposed to having to sort out the fucking shite they've failed to do so far.
I'm going to Scotland on holiday next month and I'm already googling dentists to see if I can find one that will work things out.
I blame the tories, and labour, and frankly everyone in the fucking world because I am now officially in a BAD MOOD.
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Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet:
The main problem with NHS dentistry is that it's not NHS enough. We need publically employed dentists and national planning of dentist numbers.
What would nationally-planned dentistry look like? When you've finished your check up would the dentist hand you a vase so you can rinse your mouth out?
Hope the pain clears up soon, Chive.
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Remember, Hellions - no giving out (and no taking) medical advice from or to Shipmates.
Fuck that shit, Chive. hang in there, girl. I hope they figure it out quick. tooth pain is the worst.
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Originally posted by no prophet:
So sympathy for the pain, but none for the costs.
You have very weird sympathy circuits. They seem unimaginative and rather narcissistic. Not that there's anything wrong with the latter in hell, although working up a bit of insight would pay off in the long run.
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Originally posted by chive:
I now need to add to the joy I'm experiencing. Started taking antibiotic then oh fuck, breathing problems, itchiness etc etc. Spent the last couple hours at the local hospital where it appears that, due to the large amounts of penicillin I have consumed over the last wee while, I have now developed a quite serious allergy to it. So now no antibiotics but shit loads of antihistamines and steroids.
So now I have horrible pain, no sleep, breathing shitty (although better than it was) and I itch like I've been squatted by an extended family of fleas. And I still have no date to get my fucking teeth out.
I swear it would be cheaper for them to just fucking do it as opposed to having to sort out the fucking shite they've failed to do so far.
I'm going to Scotland on holiday next month and I'm already googling dentists to see if I can find one that will work things out.
I blame the tories, and labour, and frankly everyone in the fucking world because I am now officially in a BAD MOOD.
I am really, really sorry to hear of all your suffering, Chive. I really wish I could help.
Would it be worth asking your friends who they use; maybe there will be a local dentist who is particularly good, and who you could trust to do the extraction without full sedation? There may be some medication that could help enough, for the few minutes it would take.
I know that is probably useless advice, but I don't know what else to suggest, really.
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Chive, if I send you the Rusty Farm Implement, do you think you could use it on the tooth? Failing that, on the NHS authories...
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
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Originally posted by no prophet:
Did not realize the NHS includes dentistry. In Canada, dentists are all private, with the lucky people those whose work-based insurance pays it or part of it. If I recall correctly it was close to $4,000 for one of my kid's difficult wisdom teeth with the sleepy time. So sympathy for the pain, but none for the costs.
Just because you are in same boat payment-wise, you can't find sympathy for her predicament?
I do, for the tooth pain.
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I live with someone who is a martyr to Teeth. There's a reason for the expression 'down in the mouth' - it really is one attention-monopolising bugger.
I can't recommend anything beyond what you're doing already. Hunting down every medical/dental resource on the planet until you find one that will Do Something.
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My specialist dentist is in Shepherd's Bush (I live near Manchester) ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
I had a lot of work done, including two implants, six crowns and several porcelain inlays - for a quarter of the cost my normal dentist quoted.
They come over from Hungary and take over a private surgery for the weekend once a fortnight. They are called Perfect Smile. We got a new dentist recently, he was really impressed with the work I'd had done. If you google Perfect Smile Shepherd's Bush you will find them.
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Originally posted by LeRoc:
I don't know how the system works, but couldn't you cross a border somewhere? Scotland has already been mentioned, there's Ireland and there must be private clincs in countries like Belgium or the Netherlands where people speak English.
Yes, where could one go to find a ton of English speaking dentists in private practice? ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Originally posted by Anglican't:
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Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet:
The main problem with NHS dentistry is that it's not NHS enough. We need publically employed dentists and national planning of dentist numbers.
What would nationally-planned dentistry look like? When you've finished your check up would the dentist hand you a vase so you can rinse your mouth out?
Eh? I can get all the treatment for any part of my body except eyes and teeth via my GP at zero cost beyond taxes. I can see my GP 6 days a week, and on call during evenings and weekends in an emergency. In dire emergency the local NHS staff will have me stabilised and on a plane to Glasgow inside an hour. I'd just like dentistry to be included in NHS provision. At least up here the check ups are free.
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Chive - that sucks. Tooth pain (and I have had a lot of teeth problems) are really unpleasant. To have had it for so long sucks.
I have had teeth out under sedation, for a cost of £150 or so - it might be more like £200 these days, although it was probably 5 years or so since the last time. Incidentally, I would always go for sedation if possible - I am much more relaxed, and there is no problems with post-anaesthetic nausea.
I would suggest going to your doctor and talking about it, because this seems like a medical issue - because your meds are giving problems, and you need the sedation and the treatment. And soon. You might be able to get something done at the London Dentistry School, I think at the side of the London Hospital, which is where I have had some out when I was nearer there.
Teeth are a bad idea, on balance.
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The bummer is, extraction is no big deal. My chap's attitude is - You still have a couple of dozen teeth, this one's rubbish, just hold still a minute...
T's a lot less painful than a filling and way better than an abscess.
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I've gone to the same private dentist my entire life. I didn't think this was strange til I started hearing about other people's experiences with the NHS.
To put this into context, I've lived on sugary things, coffee, tea and wine - and I didn't have my first filling til my mid twenties. That's how much care the guy took care of my teeth.
(Though in my defence, when I was unemployed I had a wisdom tooth removed by the NHS in 48hrs, and they were amazing.)
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chive I'm appalled that we - a two trillion pound economy - can do NOTHING for you. That you cannot get justice. A sane, integrated, responsible response. You must go to your MP. And demand JUSTICE.
Go to your local CofE vicar and demand the same, that he raises it with YOUR bishop.
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Kidnap a London banker to pay for it.
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Ahleal V: I had a wisdom tooth removed by the NHS in 48hrs
Did it take so long to pull it out? Ouch!
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{{{{{{{Chive}}}}}}}
I've had a lot of dental problems, had to fight to get care, and haven't always been able to get it. And had some awful dentists, and been traumatized by abusive treatment and anesthesia problems..
FYI about dental schools: around here (San Francisco, CA), there are several levels of clinics at dental schools: students, residents, faculty, etc. The student-level clinic, while cheaper, can be emotionally excruciating to deal with. They're only allowed to do a small amount of work at each appointment, and wait for the attending dentist to come around and check. It can take a long time to get the attending. So a treatment/procedure that normally could be done all in one appointment is split up into several. Even for something like teeth cleaning. This makes it especially hard for patients who are terrified.
The resident clinics, IME, are generally much better. They can do more stuff in one appointment, though they may still split up a procedure. The level of supervision varies according to the attending, IME. The residents tend to be more confident and competent, though some haven't learned much empathy for patients' anxiety yet. (OTOH, I had once had a private dentist who, while generally very good, honestly didn't understand why people are scared of dentists! I explained it to the dentist, who was surprised.)
Dental schools sometimes have specialty clinics, like General Hospital Dentistry and Oral-Facial Pain, where they can give some special attention to people with special needs. E.g., people who MUST have full sedation.
I don't know what's right for you. But if you do go to a dental school, you might find it works best to go to a resident or faculty clinic, and see if they've got anything like General Hospital Dentistry and Oral-Facial Pain.
Oh, and I've heard of dentists (and even dental schools) using *acupuncture* to help patients during procedures. If you can find that, maybe it could get you around the anesthesia/medication problem?
FWIW. YMMV.
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Talking to your mp might work, though a psychiatrist might be able to prescribe the relevant sedation meds - rather than waiting for a prescribing dentist.
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(Wow, comet, you are so right about people avoiding offering specific medical advice. Gee, did everybody read that fantastic post? If not, read it now! ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif) You'll love it!)
I can actually say this with confidence-- I love my dentist, and he loves me.
No, not that way. Our love is transcendent and pure. He just discovered I am a science geek who finds lurid descriptions of dental extractions fascinating. And he has the magic touch. As far as extractions. Bunch of pervs, get your minds out of the gutter. Our love is transcendent and pure.
Moment of Dentist Lurve- I swear to God this happened:
Dr.A. (Elbow deep in my mouth) "I had to fix the toilet lid in my house the other day."
Me: (listening face)"Ungh?"
Dr.A "Yeah, and getting the screws off the old lid was harder than putting the new one on. I kept thinking about tools I have here in the office that would have helped me with that job. So I wound up going down to my basement and looking for tools that reminded me of dental tools.
Me(Helpless giggling, with a suction tube and a pair of pliers in my mouth)
Dr. A. (removing pliers and poking a wad of gauze in my back molar) "I'm sorry, was that oversharing?"
Me (fairly coherently-- the novocaine wasn't affecting the front of my mouth)"Not at all, not at all. Actually that'sh short of reassuring. Obvioshly you are really dedicate to you job."
Dr.A(giving me a shy, boyish smile-- he's hella young. And married, before y'all start.) "Gee, Kelly, I can't imagine telling that story to any of my other patients. I knew you would understand."
I figure that this recap of my dental experience is Hellish in that the " ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) HA, HA! MY DENTIST ROCKS AND YOURS SUCKS!" factor is high.
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
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Well, if we're going to be THAT kind of Hellish - I can proudly say I fell asleep during my wisdom teeth removal, under only local anesthetic. Yoga breathing and meditation is a wonderful thing.
I did drool, though.
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We could only see the free dentist who opened his practice once every two months to welfare cases. He was a big guy, a muscle bound body builder with strangely small, soft, feminine hands. For wisdom teeth the gave you noviciane, a little nitrous oxide and then pulled them out with one pull for each tooth. Later, in college, when I heard people had actual anesthesia ( a Valium drip?) for theirs I couldn't believe it!
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Originally posted by Patdys:
Anyone else picturing Steve Martin from little shop of horrors?
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Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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Wisdom teeth removed, that answers loads of questions I'd had.
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I'll just leave this little link right here...
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There's the recurring character of the oversharing dentist on the Armstrong and Miller show, but I cba to link it. I'm a bit stunned at this. I've had no problems getting prompt, good, reasonably priced NHS dental treatment, including having a tooth out. I guess it really is a question of where you live.
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Lovely GP has now given me some morphine so I slept last night for a few hours which was lovely. But it is completely ridiculous that it has got so bad. Going to my dentist today and I'm going to sit there and cry til he sorts something out. Please let this work.
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Yikes.
Accio dens.
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Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.
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It just cannot be right that someone is getting 5 courses of antibiotics and now morphine when a tooth extraction would solve the problem. There may be concerns about interactions between sedation and other medications, but the idea that you instead don't worry about interactions and/or side effects from a list of antibiotics, painkillers and morphine is bonkers.
Chive, you have been very badly let down, although I expect you know that. You should find an appropriate avenue for complaints once this is all over.
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I developed severe pain in a lower molar (the one in front of the wisdom tooth, dont know the technical term) on Sunday 10 November. Saw my fantastic NHS dentist Zaq on morning of Tuesday 12 November. After xray, he diagnosed an abscess and recommended immediate extraction (dont understand the comment upthread that a tooth cannot be taken out with infection present, but I may have misunderstood the comment). Three injections later, Zaq tells me that the extraction "may not be straightforward". Too late for me to run out of the surgery. As it turned out, it wasn't too difficult and I felt nothing but a little pressure on the gum during the procedure. I thought Id be offered antibiotics afterwards but wasn't. Went home, was lucky that I could take the day off, and took paracetamol as the local anaesthetic wore off. I would describe the aftermath as moderate discomfort, as oppose to pain. By the Fridsy I was feeling more or less normal. I am SO grateful to NHS dentistry and to wonderful Zaq. Cost to me was only £33.48.
Chive, I am so sorry that you are undergoing such excruciating pain. Toothache, from my recent experience, is utterly awful. I hope you get something sorted out today.
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Chive - still thinking about you. How's it going?
Someone deserves a kicking for this. Your treatment has been appalling - the fact that your medication may be an issue just means someone needs to get their arse in gear and find a solution for you.
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An hour at the dentist this morning. Eight fucking injections. Tooth still bloody there cos infection too bad to take it out. Prescription for more antibiotics that I'm too scared to take and another appointment in January.
And I bit my lip cos it was numbed and I look like a boxer. Morphine is my only friend.
I cannot explain how at the end of my tether I am.
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Too scared to take ?
If you don't have something at least controlling the infection a bit, you will get worse. Camp in your GPs again. Actually, just looked at the time - go to A&E an refuse to leave till you get meaningful help.
(& Hosts, this is not medical advice - it is how to get access to medical advice advice.)
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This situation is appalling. Chive, I agree that you should go to A and E, explaining that the pain is unbearable and ask to see the on call maxillofacial specialist as a matter of urgency.
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It really bugs the piss out of me that whatever quack you drew out of the pile thinks toying around with morphine is preferable to an extraction.
Sort out my girl chive,you dicks!
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With the best will in the world I think we've given chive all the practical advice we can. Prayer for and fellowship with her, plus Hellishness for sundry clinicians who are no doubt operating under "guidelines" drawn up by those who can't tell a mole from a molar, would seem to be the order of the day.
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btw, if chive wants to bollock me for the above, I'll be cutting her some slack. I'll put it down to toothache.
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I don't need practical advice, I've got morphine which I've decided solves all the worlds problems. And no I'm not going to become addicted.
I've also got a massive lump on my jaw that makes me look like a chipmunk with mumps. Most attractive. So today I'm going to spend a useful day lying on the sofa, staring into space and moaning occasionally.
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Chive, prayers are with you, so sorry that things are so awful for you at the moment.
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