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The Scrumpmeister
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
The downside is when something tickles you (like "The Trump of God shall sound") you have a struggle to explain why you're in fits of giggles.

Yes. This happens to me during the hymn, This joyful Eastertide. There is a verse that goes:

quote:
My flesh in hope shall rest
and for a season slumber
till trump from east to west
shall wake the dead in number.

My personal favourite, though, has to be the verse in Lord, for the years, which has the couplet:

quote:
Lord, for that word, the word of life which fires us,
speaks to our hearts, and sets our souls ablaze.

The humour relies on a particular pronunciation of "our" so may not work in all accents, but for those in which it does, the hilarity is heightened by the perfect marriage of words and music at the vital point.

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Here it is! 34 seconds in.

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Sorry - I don't geddit! Maybe my Humour-o-meter needs recalibrating (or my ears......)?

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Think pirate.
No, not that hilarious IMO either. But perhaps it helps if you're there!

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Read "Arseholes" for "our souls". (Oh yay, I just love having that at the top of the Today's active threads listing.)

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The Scrumpmeister
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Oh, well.

Maybe you have to have been in choirs and choral societies where enunciation is drilled into you. That's been my life since I was a teenager. You become very conscious of how words sound when sung together in a way that others perhaps don't even think about.

Certainly, the words "our" and "souls" together in various hymns have a very comedic effect, such as one hymn with the couplet:

quote:
Cleansing our souls from all their sin,
pouring your love and goodness in.



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[Killing me] [Killing me]


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quote:
posted by The Scrumpmeister:
Maybe you have to have been in choirs and choral societies where enunciation is drilled into you. That's been my life since I was a teenager. You become very conscious of how words sound when sung together in a way that others perhaps don't even think about.

"The quiet heart" is also another one of those that needs to be enunciated rather clearly.... both the final consonant and the aspirate...

[ 09. November 2015, 13:12: Message edited by: kingsfold ]

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A boarding school favourite in the late forties was:

Let holy charity mine outward vesture be,
And lowliness become mine inner clothing;

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Then there's the one about the amphibian who does heterodox things in private..."Lead On, O Kinky Turtle."
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quote:
Originally posted by JeffTL:
Then there's the one about the amphibian who does heterodox things in private..."Lead On, O Kinky Turtle."

A turtle is a reptile.
[Razz]

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Then, also in the animal kingdom, was 'The constipated cross-eyed bear.' Sorry I don't remember what old-time Methodist hymn this is from!

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I've heard of "Gladly, the cross-eyed bear" (misheard version of "Gladly the Cross I'd Bear"), but not sure about a constipated one. Sounds a bit like "consecrated" but don't know what hymn that could be.

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Well a little googling and this came up.

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Long ago, while practising "Puer Nobis Nascitur" with the school choir before Christmas, the music teacher asked us if we would be so kind as to place less emphasis on the second syllable of 'nascitur' (as pronounced in church Latin). Then there were all the clever little latinists among us who insisted that rector and rectum were basically the same thing.

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quote:
Originally posted by Miffy:
quote:
Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
On a BDSM theme, who can keep a straight face at

Bind us together, Lord, bind us together
With cords that cannot be broken
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Oh, I can, as I discovered last Sunday.
Seriously? I haven't heard his one since the 1970s. I am astonished that it is still being sung.
quote:
Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
quote:
Originally posted by JeffTL:
Then there's the one about the amphibian who does heterodox things in private..."Lead On, O Kinky Turtle."

A turtle is a reptile.
[Razz]

On the subject of reptiles, I am reminded of the Prairie Tortoise. And in case anyoe didn't know God's first name, it's Peter. As in "thanks Peter God".
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Can we mention here the Sunday School teacher known as The Terrapin- because she tortoise?

Taxi for Albertus...

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quote:
Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
And in case anyoe didn't know God's first name, it's Peter. As in "thanks Peter God".

And, of course, our Father in Heaven is named Harold.

(Which, oddly enough, is also the name of all of the angels who sing "Hark.")

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quote:
Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
quote:
Originally posted by Miffy:
quote:
Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
On a BDSM theme, who can keep a straight face at

Bind us together, Lord, bind us together
With cords that cannot be broken
?

Oh, I can, as I discovered last Sunday.
Seriously? I haven't heard his one since the 1970s. I am astonished that it is still being sung.
British Methodists still sing it. At some point in the song the congregation are usually expected to link arms and look around at each other with smiley faces.

It's a good song for Methodists; like them it emphasises unity and points of agreement rather than whatever causes discord and argument. And the British Methodist demographic is unlikely to be led astray by thoughts of BDSM.

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Or so you think!
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Yeah, maybe. But Methodist congregations are known for singing hymns with gusto. This would be harder to do if they were trying to stifle titters as well. Don't you need to be a trained in a good CofE choir for skills like that?

[Biased]

There must be some interesting psychological stuff going on here regarding the noticing or not noticing of double-entendres in church during worship, but I'd better not subject anyone to my cod-psychology!

[ 20. November 2015, 00:10: Message edited by: SvitlanaV2 ]

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quote:
Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
trying to stifle titters as well.

Capital punishment sounds a bit harsh.

Why not just get security to eject them?

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You just need to put some suitable notices up

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quote:
Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
[British Methodists still sing it. At some point in the song the congregation are usually expected to link arms and look around at each other with smiley faces.


My old Baptist church used to expect us to hold hands and sway.

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Presumably the consumption of non-alcoholic Communion wine did not help you to do so.
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My friend's parish church (CofE) starts every main Sunday service with Bind us together: the rationale is that it will make newcomers "feel welcome" [Confused]

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quote:
Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
On a BDSM theme, who can keep a straight face at

Bind us together, Lord, bind us together
With cords that cannot be broken
?

Aka The Bondage Song! Quietly removed from regular rotation by Rev T I believe. It never fails to make me smile.

We had Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble at our wedding:

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Did you feel the mountains tremble?
Did you hear the oceans roar? ...
Did you feel the people tremble? Did you hear the singers roar? ... Did you feel the darkness tremble

We didn't notice anything untoward whilst we were selecting hymns or getting the printed order of service done. And none of the friends who knew what we'd picked pointed them out. But when the congregation started singing [Hot and Hormonal] . Ah well! I deliberately didn't look at my bridesmaids who did an amazing job keeping a straight face!

Tubbs

[ 20. November 2015, 13:07: Message edited by: Tubbs ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Tubbs:


We had Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble at our wedding:

quote:
Did you feel the mountains tremble?
Did you hear the oceans roar? ...
Did you feel the people tremble? Did you hear the singers roar? ... Did you feel the darkness tremble

We didn't notice anything untoward whilst we were selecting hymns or getting the printed order of service done. And none of the friends who knew what we'd picked pointed them out. But when the congregation started singing [Hot and Hormonal] . Ah well! I deliberately didn't look at my bridesmaids who did an amazing job keeping a straight face!

Tubbs

I don't know this song, but the problem with it, IMO, is that it doesn't reflect contemporary mainstream spirituality in our culture. Unless you're the type who fall over and roll about as part of being 'slain in the Spirit' you don't relate 'trembling' to religion; you relate it to nervousness or romantic intimacy.

In fact, I'm guessing that some of the giggling here arises because we live in a culture (both Christian and secular) that's nervous about unbridled spirituality. Even the charismatics mostly want to be a rational, reasonable people who keep their spirituality under strict control. Adopting an attitude of levity towards our hymns and worship music helps us to do this.

By contrast, people who for whatever reason are specifically hoping for their religious worship to transport them to another less mundane place probably wouldn't find this approach very helpful.

(Looks as if the cod-psychology wormed its way in after all. But really, I can't imagine how somehow who's genuinely yearning to 'cast their burdens unto Jesus' would be in a fit state of mind to focus on double-entendres in hymns.)

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quote:
Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
I don't know this song, but the problem with it, IMO, is that it doesn't reflect contemporary mainstream spirituality in our culture. Unless you're the type who fall over and roll about as part of being 'slain in the Spirit' you don't relate 'trembling' to religion; you relate it to nervousness or romantic intimacy.

Maybe it's a pond thing, but over here I think "trembling" would be associated more with fear in the presence of something more powerful, not nervousness or romance. And many would associate it with religion, at least during Holy Week, when Were You There is one of the more common hymns.

In the case of Tubbs' wedding, my guess is that the twittering arose thanks to the marital context rather than due to the words themselves. I would have had to stifle laughs. [Big Grin]

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We used to sing 'Were You There' at my old Methodist church, and I can imagine some of those people actually trembling. But it wasn't a typical congregation. North America is probably rather different, but no, I don't think indigenous British Christianity in general is a 'trembling' sort of faith these days.

A hymn about trembling is a rather unusual choice for a wedding, but each to his own!

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I think it must be a pond difference, as I too was surprised to hear that trembling means anything in a romantic context. We associate it here with being either afraid or in awe.

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Lamb Chopped, I hope this isn't too shocking, but it's the association between mountains trembling and the earth moving. Perhaps I have not attained a sufficiently high spiritual level compared with other shipmates, but if I'd been there, I'd have had real trouble suppressing my amusement.

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Do you think there might be a subliminal connect with knee tremblers there too ?

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Probably most of us think of the famous line from Hemingway's For Whom The Bell Tolls: "Did the earth move for you too?"
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quote:
Originally posted by Enoch:
Lamb Chopped, I hope this isn't too shocking, but it's the association between mountains trembling and the earth moving. Perhaps I have not attained a sufficiently high spiritual level compared with other shipmates, but if I'd been there, I'd have had real trouble suppressing my amusement.

Nothing spiritual about it. We simply don't use "trembling" that way. We DO have "did the earth move for you?" as a set phrase, and the term "rock" (as in "don't come a-knocking") but the trembling action sounds way too ... minor. [Razz]

Of course I'm a California native.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie jon:
Well a little googling and this came up.

Jengie

thanks! jj

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Does anyone remember the Sunday School chorus:
'I will make you vicious old men'?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mudfrog:
Does anyone remember the Sunday School chorus:
'I will make you vicious old men'?

That gets a [Overused]

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quote:
Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
In All Things Bright and Beautiful we have praise for "The Purple Headed Mountain."

Thank you for pointing to that one Latchkey Kid.
Used to regularly sing that line at primary school with no humorous effect. Something that comes a little later in life.

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Not very well known, but there's a song about the parable of the wedding banquet called "I cannot come" - which has those three words sung on their own, at the beginning, with a pause, before it launches into the main story.
The choir director who chose it, every time that parable was included on a Sunday, had three teenage sons. I assume he never happened to look at them while singing the song.

I did also hear someone sing it as a solo item and accidentally alter the second line to
"I have bought me a wife, I have married a cow"

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quote:
Originally posted by Aravis:
I did also hear someone sing it as a solo item and accidentally alter the second line to
"I have bought me a wife, I have married a cow"

Are you sure that was an accident?
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My sons were all quite young, probably eight and under when that song came out on cassette.. I doubt the first reference meant anything to them, but they quickly swapped the bought wife and married cow around, laughing as they did it.

My husband was then just getting into the happy clappy, ecumenical scene after being brought up in a closed brethren group. He would wander the house singing under his breath, I cannot come, I cannot come. [Confused] He told me it was a song written by the Spirit and therefore was totally pure. The song may have been but the hearers were not and there was much smirking and laughter.

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The worst double entendre (IMHO) in Orthodox hymnody is where we refer to the Virgin as the "Burning Bush" (the idea being she held God in her womb but was not harmed, just as the bush was unharmed by the fire). I feel evil every time we sing it for thinking unclean thoughts.

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While singing "The angel Gabirel from heaven came", the Basque carol, to my son last night, I couldn't, as ever, refrain from accidentally singing "most highly flavoured lady". I found a version on Youtube that has the words "most highly flavoured gravy" written in the score.

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Is this double-entendre or just pre-Freudian?

Source: Blessed Assurance (Frances Crosby)

'"Perfect submission, perfect delight,
Visions of rapture burst on my sight"

"Perfect submission, all is at rest
I in my saviour am happy and blest"
............. Filled with his goodness, lost in his love."


With reference to "our souls", raised above:

From O God of Bethel

"And at our father's loved abode
Our souls arrive in peace."

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There is at least a master's thesis, if not a doctoral dissertation to be written on the Freudian implications in the hymns of Fanny Crosby!

She could have given those 18/19 century 'bride of Christ' poet-nuns a run for their money.

She was a very sick woman, bless her heart!

YMMV, of course.

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Not heard for a long time but the hymn to Mary that used to be sung every May:

The sun is shining brightly
And all the world is gay
For 'tis the month if Mary,
The lovely month of May.

And the Holiday hymn sing at the end of the summer term with the refrain
O causa nostrae leatitiae


Roared out by the bad boys to Sister's bemusement

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My college chapel choir used to struggle with the chorus line of "Just as I am, without one plea", namely: "Oh lamb of God, I come".

There was also something containing the line "before thy throne we sinners bend" that went very badly.

In more recent (and innocent) times, Perspice Christicola (sung to the tune Sumer is a comin' in) has at my church been abbreviated to "Pepsi cola".

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quote:
Originally posted by Edith:
Not heard for a long time but the hymn to Mary that used to be sung every May:

The sun is shining brightly
And all the world is gay
For 'tis the month if Mary,
The lovely month of May.

And the Holiday hymn sing at the end of the summer term with the refrain
O causa nostrae leatitiae


Roared out by the bad boys to Sister's bemusement

Time to forget the classroom pronunciation of Latin and head for the Italianesque "Lightisheay"

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Well, the Italianate pronunciation is something like "leh-TEE-tsee-eh", so it's still perfectly possible to get something that sounds like "tits" out of it.

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