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OddJob
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This morning whilst singing 'We plough the fields and scatter' I conjured up a mental image of God rising at an early hour in a grimy suburban locomotive shed in the mid-1960s to begin firing up British Railways' last-built steam locomotive. That's what the line 'He lights the Evening Star' could mean, is it not?
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churchgeek
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Originally posted by Kaplan Corday:
(If someone describes a prophetic scenario different from theirs as crap, is that scatological eschatology or eschatological scatology?)
That just went in the quotes file. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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L'organist
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For the sports car afficionado there is always this quote:
Sunbeams scorching all the day;
Chilly dew-drops nightly shed;
Prowling beasts about they way;
Stones thy pillow, earth thy bed.
The Sunbeam Alpine was a nippy little car and there are still a few examples about today.
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Enoch
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Originally posted by OddJob:
This morning whilst singing 'We plough the fields and scatter' I conjured up a mental image of God rising at an early hour in a grimy suburban locomotive shed in the mid-1960s to begin firing up British Railways' last-built steam locomotive. That's what the line 'He lights the Evening Star' could mean, is it not?
![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
Gives a whole new flavour to the idea of a Year of Jubilees.
I shall have to watch out for others.
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North East Quine
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Originally posted by Kaplan Corday:
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(If someone describes a prophetic scenario different from theirs as crap, is that scatological eschatology or eschatological scatology?)
There used to be a cartoon on Saturday morning kids' TV called Angela Anaconda in which the teacher character used very long words. In an episode about making Greek myth dioramas, the character used the word "scatological." My children asked what it meant. I told them.
In church next morning the minister used the word "eschatological". Cue my three year old exclaiming, in clear and carrying tones "Mummy! Mummy! He's talking about POO!
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Enoch
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
Originally posted by Kaplan Corday:
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(If someone describes a prophetic scenario different from theirs as crap, is that scatological eschatology or eschatological scatology?)
There used to be a cartoon on Saturday morning kids' TV called Angela Anaconda in which the teacher character used very long words. In an episode about making Greek myth dioramas, the character used the word "scatological." My children asked what it meant. I told them.
In church next morning the minister used the word "eschatological". Cue my three year old exclaiming, in clear and carrying tones "Mummy! Mummy! He's talking about POO!
That also gets a
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Niminypiminy
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On a BDSM theme, who can keep a straight face at
Bind us together, Lord, bind us together
With cords that cannot be broken ?
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Miffy
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Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
On a BDSM theme, who can keep a straight face at
Bind us together, Lord, bind us together
With cords that cannot be broken ?
Oh, I can, as I discovered last Sunday. Not a hint of suppressed mirth passed my countenance. Considering the theme of the sermon earlier in the service it was a feat of heroic proportions, I can tell you. Either that or I'm losing my sense of humour in my old age.
I do sometimes wonder if our vicar and our music director are Shipmates.
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Circuit Rider
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The second stanza of "Grace Greater Than Our Sin" can evoke a smile here in the Heart of Dixie:
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Dark is the stain that we cannot hide,
what can avail to wash it away!
Look! there is flowing a crimson tide;
whiter than snow you may be today.
[ 07. November 2015, 18:38: Message edited by: Circuit Rider ]
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The Scrumpmeister
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
The downside is when something tickles you (like "The Trump of God shall sound") you have a struggle to explain why you're in fits of giggles.
Yes. This happens to me during the hymn, This joyful Eastertide. There is a verse that goes:
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My flesh in hope shall rest
and for a season slumber
till trump from east to west
shall wake the dead in number.
My personal favourite, though, has to be the verse in Lord, for the years, which has the couplet:
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Lord, for that word, the word of life which fires us,
speaks to our hearts, and sets our souls ablaze.
The humour relies on a particular pronunciation of "our" so may not work in all accents, but for those in which it does, the hilarity is heightened by the perfect marriage of words and music at the vital point.
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The Scrumpmeister
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Here it is! 34 seconds in.
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Bishops Finger
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Sorry - I don't geddit! Maybe my Humour-o-meter needs recalibrating (or my ears......)?
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Albertus
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Think pirate.
No, not that hilarious IMO either. But perhaps it helps if you're there!
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Lamb Chopped
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Read "Arseholes" for "our souls". (Oh yay, I just love having that at the top of the Today's active threads listing.)
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The Scrumpmeister
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Oh, well.
Maybe you have to have been in choirs and choral societies where enunciation is drilled into you. That's been my life since I was a teenager. You become very conscious of how words sound when sung together in a way that others perhaps don't even think about.
Certainly, the words "our" and "souls" together in various hymns have a very comedic effect, such as one hymn with the couplet:
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Cleansing our souls from all their sin,
pouring your love and goodness in.
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Bishops Finger
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![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
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kingsfold
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posted by The Scrumpmeister:
Maybe you have to have been in choirs and choral societies where enunciation is drilled into you. That's been my life since I was a teenager. You become very conscious of how words sound when sung together in a way that others perhaps don't even think about.
"The quiet heart" is also another one of those that needs to be enunciated rather clearly.... both the final consonant and the aspirate...
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Galloping Granny
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A boarding school favourite in the late forties was:
Let holy charity mine outward vesture be,
And lowliness become mine inner clothing;
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JeffTL
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Then there's the one about the amphibian who does heterodox things in private..."Lead On, O Kinky Turtle."
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by JeffTL:
Then there's the one about the amphibian who does heterodox things in private..."Lead On, O Kinky Turtle."
A turtle is a reptile.
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georgiaboy
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Then, also in the animal kingdom, was 'The constipated cross-eyed bear.' Sorry I don't remember what old-time Methodist hymn this is from!
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Pigwidgeon
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I've heard of "Gladly, the cross-eyed bear" (misheard version of "Gladly the Cross I'd Bear"), but not sure about a constipated one. Sounds a bit like "consecrated" but don't know what hymn that could be.
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Jengie jon
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Well a little googling and this came up.
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Stercus Tauri
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Long ago, while practising "Puer Nobis Nascitur" with the school choir before Christmas, the music teacher asked us if we would be so kind as to place less emphasis on the second syllable of 'nascitur' (as pronounced in church Latin). Then there were all the clever little latinists among us who insisted that rector and rectum were basically the same thing.
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Jonah the Whale
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Originally posted by Miffy:
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Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
On a BDSM theme, who can keep a straight face at
Bind us together, Lord, bind us together
With cords that cannot be broken ?
Oh, I can, as I discovered last Sunday.
Seriously? I haven't heard his one since the 1970s. I am astonished that it is still being sung.
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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon:
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Originally posted by JeffTL:
Then there's the one about the amphibian who does heterodox things in private..."Lead On, O Kinky Turtle."
A turtle is a reptile.
On the subject of reptiles, I am reminded of the Prairie Tortoise. And in case anyoe didn't know God's first name, it's Peter. As in "thanks Peter God".
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Albertus
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Can we mention here the Sunday School teacher known as The Terrapin- because she tortoise?
Taxi for Albertus...
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
And in case anyoe didn't know God's first name, it's Peter. As in "thanks Peter God".
And, of course, our Father in Heaven is named Harold.
(Which, oddly enough, is also the name of all of the angels who sing "Hark.")
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SvitlanaV2
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Originally posted by Jonah the Whale:
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Originally posted by Miffy:
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Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
On a BDSM theme, who can keep a straight face at
Bind us together, Lord, bind us together
With cords that cannot be broken ?
Oh, I can, as I discovered last Sunday.
Seriously? I haven't heard his one since the 1970s. I am astonished that it is still being sung.
British Methodists still sing it. At some point in the song the congregation are usually expected to link arms and look around at each other with smiley faces.
It's a good song for Methodists; like them it emphasises unity and points of agreement rather than whatever causes discord and argument. And the British Methodist demographic is unlikely to be led astray by thoughts of BDSM.
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SvitlanaV2
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Yeah, maybe. But Methodist congregations are known for singing hymns with gusto. This would be harder to do if they were trying to stifle titters as well. Don't you need to be a trained in a good CofE choir for skills like that?
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There must be some interesting psychological stuff going on here regarding the noticing or not noticing of double-entendres in church during worship, but I'd better not subject anyone to my cod-psychology!
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Kaplan Corday
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Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
trying to stifle titters as well.
Capital punishment sounds a bit harsh.
Why not just get security to eject them?
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Albertus
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You just need to put some suitable notices up
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The Phantom Flan Flinger
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Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
[British Methodists still sing it. At some point in the song the congregation are usually expected to link arms and look around at each other with smiley faces.
My old Baptist church used to expect us to hold hands and sway.
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Baptist Trainfan
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Presumably the consumption of non-alcoholic Communion wine did not help you to do so.
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L'organist
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My friend's parish church (CofE) starts every main Sunday service with Bind us together: the rationale is that it will make newcomers "feel welcome" ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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Tubbs
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Originally posted by Niminypiminy:
On a BDSM theme, who can keep a straight face at
Bind us together, Lord, bind us together
With cords that cannot be broken ?
Aka The Bondage Song! Quietly removed from regular rotation by Rev T I believe. It never fails to make me smile.
We had Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble at our wedding:
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Did you feel the mountains tremble?
Did you hear the oceans roar? ...
Did you feel the people tremble? Did you hear the singers roar? ... Did you feel the darkness tremble
We didn't notice anything untoward whilst we were selecting hymns or getting the printed order of service done. And none of the friends who knew what we'd picked pointed them out. But when the congregation started singing ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) . Ah well! I deliberately didn't look at my bridesmaids who did an amazing job keeping a straight face!
Tubbs
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SvitlanaV2
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Originally posted by Tubbs:
We had Did You Feel the Mountains Tremble at our wedding:
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Did you feel the mountains tremble?
Did you hear the oceans roar? ...
Did you feel the people tremble? Did you hear the singers roar? ... Did you feel the darkness tremble
We didn't notice anything untoward whilst we were selecting hymns or getting the printed order of service done. And none of the friends who knew what we'd picked pointed them out. But when the congregation started singing . Ah well! I deliberately didn't look at my bridesmaids who did an amazing job keeping a straight face!
Tubbs
I don't know this song, but the problem with it, IMO, is that it doesn't reflect contemporary mainstream spirituality in our culture. Unless you're the type who fall over and roll about as part of being 'slain in the Spirit' you don't relate 'trembling' to religion; you relate it to nervousness or romantic intimacy.
In fact, I'm guessing that some of the giggling here arises because we live in a culture (both Christian and secular) that's nervous about unbridled spirituality. Even the charismatics mostly want to be a rational, reasonable people who keep their spirituality under strict control. Adopting an attitude of levity towards our hymns and worship music helps us to do this.
By contrast, people who for whatever reason are specifically hoping for their religious worship to transport them to another less mundane place probably wouldn't find this approach very helpful.
(Looks as if the cod-psychology wormed its way in after all. But really, I can't imagine how somehow who's genuinely yearning to 'cast their burdens unto Jesus' would be in a fit state of mind to focus on double-entendres in hymns.)
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Nick Tamen
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Originally posted by SvitlanaV2:
I don't know this song, but the problem with it, IMO, is that it doesn't reflect contemporary mainstream spirituality in our culture. Unless you're the type who fall over and roll about as part of being 'slain in the Spirit' you don't relate 'trembling' to religion; you relate it to nervousness or romantic intimacy.
Maybe it's a pond thing, but over here I think "trembling" would be associated more with fear in the presence of something more powerful, not nervousness or romance. And many would associate it with religion, at least during Holy Week, when Were You There is one of the more common hymns.
In the case of Tubbs' wedding, my guess is that the twittering arose thanks to the marital context rather than due to the words themselves. I would have had to stifle laughs.
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SvitlanaV2
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We used to sing 'Were You There' at my old Methodist church, and I can imagine some of those people actually trembling. But it wasn't a typical congregation. North America is probably rather different, but no, I don't think indigenous British Christianity in general is a 'trembling' sort of faith these days.
A hymn about trembling is a rather unusual choice for a wedding, but each to his own!
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Lamb Chopped
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I think it must be a pond difference, as I too was surprised to hear that trembling means anything in a romantic context. We associate it here with being either afraid or in awe.
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Enoch
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Lamb Chopped, I hope this isn't too shocking, but it's the association between mountains trembling and the earth moving. Perhaps I have not attained a sufficiently high spiritual level compared with other shipmates, but if I'd been there, I'd have had real trouble suppressing my amusement.
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Albertus
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Do you think there might be a subliminal connect with knee tremblers there too ?
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Kaplan Corday
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Probably most of us think of the famous line from Hemingway's For Whom The Bell Tolls: "Did the earth move for you too?"
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Lamb Chopped
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Originally posted by Enoch:
Lamb Chopped, I hope this isn't too shocking, but it's the association between mountains trembling and the earth moving. Perhaps I have not attained a sufficiently high spiritual level compared with other shipmates, but if I'd been there, I'd have had real trouble suppressing my amusement.
Nothing spiritual about it. We simply don't use "trembling" that way. We DO have "did the earth move for you?" as a set phrase, and the term "rock" (as in "don't come a-knocking") but the trembling action sounds way too ... minor.
Of course I'm a California native.
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georgiaboy
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Originally posted by Jengie jon:
Well a little googling and this came up.
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Mudfrog
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Does anyone remember the Sunday School chorus:
'I will make you vicious old men'?
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Enoch
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Originally posted by Mudfrog:
Does anyone remember the Sunday School chorus:
'I will make you vicious old men'?
That gets a
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rolyn
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Originally posted by Latchkey Kid:
In All Things Bright and Beautiful we have praise for "The Purple Headed Mountain."
Thank you for pointing to that one Latchkey Kid.
Used to regularly sing that line at primary school with no humorous effect. Something that comes a little later in life.
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Aravis
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Not very well known, but there's a song about the parable of the wedding banquet called "I cannot come" - which has those three words sung on their own, at the beginning, with a pause, before it launches into the main story.
The choir director who chose it, every time that parable was included on a Sunday, had three teenage sons. I assume he never happened to look at them while singing the song.
I did also hear someone sing it as a solo item and accidentally alter the second line to
"I have bought me a wife, I have married a cow"
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Pigwidgeon
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Originally posted by Aravis:
I did also hear someone sing it as a solo item and accidentally alter the second line to
"I have bought me a wife, I have married a cow"
Are you sure that was an accident?
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