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Thread: 1 Samuel 18:27... Say it with foreskins
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Simon
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Verse nominated by Pam Smith
"David and his men went out and killed two hundred Philistines. He brought their foreskins and presented the full number to the king so that he might become the king's son-in-law. Then Saul gave him his daughter Michal in marriage." (1 Samuel 18:27, in context)
Pam Smith comments: As the passage goes on to say that the Lord was with David, it seems he approved of killing 200 Philistines for their foreskins. I'm just really glad it's never cropped up in the lectionary when I've been preaching -- so far anyway! (To say nothing of the fact that Michal, his bride to be, loved him after he'd done it... what's wrong with a nice bunch of flowers and some chocolates?)
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Eternal memory
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Kelly Alves
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Oh, how freaking cool would that be as a wedding lection.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
Oh, how freaking cool would that be as a wedding lection.
Do NOT tempt me ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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Bullfrog.
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I was tempted to start a thread a while back on David's incredible confusion about being God's chosen king and being a total jackass.
Might go back to the earlier Samuel passage about how kings are a really really bad idea.
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jacobsen
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It was sheer wasteful laziness, really. Foreskins could have been gathered without killing anyone. The involuntary donors might have had to be tied down, though. ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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episcolib
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The author of I Samuel shows a great sense of humor, here. ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
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We have been with child, we have been in labour, but have brought forth wind. Is. 26:18
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Lyda*Rose
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Simon: quote:
Pam Smith comments: As the passage goes on to say that the Lord was with David, it seems he approved of killing 200 Philistines for their foreskins. I'm just really glad it's never cropped up in the lectionary when I've been preaching -- so far anyway! (To say nothing of the fact that Michal, his bride to be, loved him after he'd done it... what's wrong with a nice bunch of flowers and some chocolates?)
Funny that Michal approved of a bunch of bloody, human tissue bits as courting gifts, yet thought her husband dancing in his skivvies was undignified: quote:
As the ark of the LORD came into the city of David, Michal the daughter of Saul looked out of the window and saw King David leaping and dancing before the LORD, and she despised him in her heart. 2Sam 6:16
She probably whined to him, "You never bring me any enemy foreskins anymore!" too, after he'd spent a hard day on the throne. Marriage changes everything. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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mousethief
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She: "You don't bring me foreskins"
He: "You don't like me naked"
Both: "Anymore..."
with apologies to Neil Diamond
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Lyda*Rose
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And Babs. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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BWSmith
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quote:
Originally posted by episcolib:
The author of I Samuel shows a great sense of humor, here.
^ this.
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leo
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Thankfully, this verse does not appear in the Revised Common lectionary - the preceding verses appear on the feast of S. Joseph and stop at verse 16.
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Doublethink.
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It's difficult to know why you'd want 200 foreskins really, but I suppose if your religion forbids you from making real pork scratchings, they might be turned into an acceptable substitute.
[ 31. January 2010, 07:56: Message edited by: Think² ]
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Kelly Alves
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That was truly unforgiveable.
![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
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Lyda*Rose
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It's a keeper. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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