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Boogie
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I have Windows 7 and will not be upgrading to 10.
Soon I'm going to give up on Windows entirely and 'Apple up' with iphone, ipad and mac book.
I'll let you know how this Granny Smith gets on with the big Apple!
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lilBuddha
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
Well if you can't be pedantic and bang on about the pointless little things that annoy you in Hell where the fuck can you?
I thought that was everywhere, for people of advanced, erm, experience. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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I had noticed that nagging had started again.
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The thing about Windows Update is that it is very easy to change the settings. If you're on a metered service where you need to keep an eye on your usage then it would make sense to select the "inform me but don't download" for all updates. Then when you have unlimited access (eg: at home with wifi through your broadband) you can make the decisions about what to download. Simples.
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I'm not surprised MS is doing this, unethical as it might be. They've got the very devil of a problem with all the Windows XP and IE 6 and whatnot stll scratching a living which is now the digital equivalent of a dead sheep in a water source; it's a breeding ground for all sorts of shite which can no longer be patched and maintained. They don't want this again in five years time when Windows 7 is out of extended support - they're hoping, I expect (and not unreasonably) that Vista will be dead and gone by then - which is why it's being offered to W7/8/8.1 only. They want as much as possible of the W7/8/8.1 worldwide estate moved onto 10 during the free period. By limiting the free period, they persuade people to allow their machines to be updated.
That's my reading, any road.
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
The thing about Windows Update is that it is very easy to change the settings. If you're on a metered service where you need to keep an eye on your usage then it would make sense to select the "inform me but don't download" for all updates. Then when you have unlimited access (eg: at home with wifi through your broadband) you can make the decisions about what to download. Simples.
Except I've read more than one claim that Windows Update is changing its settings back, unannounced.
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Windows 10 is like being forced to eat all of your vegetables and still getting a spanking. We have banned it in my office. Windows 10 cannot connect to the server nor the office wifi.
Unless Microsoft can get into the mobile phone market at a decent percent of the market, they are probably doomed. Google is killing the Google Chrome operating system and moving everything to Android. The future is mobile not MS's forcefeeding bloat.
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Windows 10 is like being forced to eat all of your vegetables and still getting a spanking.
That is actually Mac. Except Mac users will say they like vegetables and enjoy the spanking.
You wish to make a food analogy?
Microsoft is a massive restaurant who must cater to a variety of customers with different needs and desires. They've made an attempt at a menu which serves all the needs adequately, but some customers insist on their own variations and past sell-by date ingredients. The chef is trying new menu items without proper taste testing and the waitstaff are constantly recommending over-priced side dishes because this is where the money is made.
Linux is a limited-menu restaurant in which you bring your spices, veggies, recipes and cook half your meal. And, unless you pick the right main at the right time, odds are the meal won't be completely edible.
Apple is a pretentious bistro with one menu item: Tofu Steak. But this is OK, because we love tofu steak, everybody loves tofu steak, if they would but try it. Every day, every time, we love tofu steak. Tofu steak is the only thing we will ever eat. Until the menu is changed to tofu chicken because tofu chicken is the only thing we ever eat and ever wanted to.
Oh, and the chef yells at us because he made a mistake, we admit that we are at fault for noticing that mistake. We are ever so naughty for mentioning it. (Sorry, sorry, sir! Feature, not mistake, feature!)
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Originally posted by Boogie:
I have Windows 7 and will not be upgrading to 10.
Soon I'm going to give up on Windows entirely and 'Apple up' with iphone, ipad and mac book.
I'll let you know how this Granny Smith gets on with the big Apple!
And me. W7 was the last straw - months of misery with nothing working right. With a bit of luck the new Mac machine will be here this week, and to Microsoft, like the French Knight, "I fart in your general direction!"
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We let the Mac computers and connect to server and network, but tell them two things: if you do an update and can't connect properly after, you will pay for any consultant time, and the slowness of the connection to the server is your computer's fault, not the server's. So I guess they get spanked more than once.
Linux is a lot like gluten-free or Coeliac disease friendly cuisine. If the meal contains contaminated ingredients, you get sick. The trick is to check the model number of the off-lease el-cheapo laptop before paying the $100 for it.
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
We let the Mac computers and connect to server and network, but tell them two things: if you do an update and can't connect properly after, you will pay for any consultant time, and the slowness of the connection to the server is your computer's fault, not the server's.
Microsoft has mostly driven me away from Powerpoint by gratuitously rearranging things each time they publish a new edition. We got "upgraded" to Office 365, and I just can't be bothered to re-learn everything again. I can't bring myself to go Mac, though - MacOS annoys me for different reasons (mostly because it knows what I want, and I know it's wrong), and I work with too many people who send around excel spreadsheets full of macros and VBA, and expect them to work, to be able to throw away MS Office completely, which rules out linux.
I'd probably prefer linux on a laptop, with a Windows instance in VirtualBox for those times when I actually need Windows, but I don't think the computer security folks will be happy with a Windows instance that doesn't exist most of the time. So maybe it'll be between Windows 10 and Mac for what causes me least pain next time around.
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Powerpoint 1997 was one of the most elegantly intuitive programs I've ever seen.
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Lilbuddha: ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif) ![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
I use a Mac for reasons too lengthy to explain. If you like paying a premium for a sleek elegant case and non-ironically funky icons that bounce up and down when their associated programmes want attention, then a Mac is great.
If you want to avoid counterintuitive design, aggressive commercial practices, DRM obstructiveness, being nagged about OS updates, or indeed physical flimsiness, then migrating to Apple is going to be a big disappointment ...
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Originally posted by lilBuddha:
Apple is a pretentious bistro with one menu item: Tofu Steak. But this is OK, because we love tofu steak, everybody loves tofu steak, if they would but try it. Every day, every time, we love tofu steak. Tofu steak is the only thing we will ever eat. Until the menu is changed to tofu chicken because tofu chicken is the only thing we ever eat and ever wanted to.
Well, my iphone is here. I have never had anything Apple before and I absolutely love it. It is incredibly intuitive and I haven't had to look up or ask one question - it's so obvious how everything works and connects.
I'm very much looking forward to Santa bringing my ipad and Mac- Book now ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
I must be a Tofu steak girl!!
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The cost is enough to keep me off anything Apple.
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Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider:
The cost is enough to keep me off anything Apple.
The person who convinced me was my DIL. She got one 5 years ago and it is as fast and efficient as it was the day she bought it.
They cost a lot but last far longer. Every one of my Windows laptops has got slower and slower, clunkier and clunkier.
Anyway - I will let you know if it was worth it!!
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I've had a lot of success speeding up old and even not so old computers and fixing glitches using the windows recovery facility. It is in the control panel under security and maintenance.
There are various levels of refreshing you can do and I usually start with the lightest and work my way through the others if that doesn't work.
It's also worth running malwarebytes or similar occasionally.
It might be worth trying this on your old windows laptop and keeping it in reserve when your Macbook is up and running.
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I know this is Hell, so I should just let this slide and then laugh like a bastard when someone wipes their machine, but do be aware that some of the 'recovery' tools are destructive, so check your backups first if you're not 100% sure of what you're doing.
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Where's the fun in that? ![[Devil]](graemlins/devil.gif)
You are right, anything you want to keep should be stored somewhere else, cloud, memory stick, before you start.
I carefully stored all my photos in a memory stick then sometime later for reasons I forget I decided to format the stick before I had put all the photos back into the computer. To be fair that was not the computer's fault. ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif)
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Originally posted by Thyme:
It might be worth trying this on your old windows laptop and keeping it in reserve when your Macbook is up and running.
Thanks Thyme, I will do that. We have an external hard drive and also cloud space to save precious files.
I will need to keep my laptop going as I have the latest Photoshop on it and don't want to buy it again for the Mac.
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Things like Photoshop will have to be reinstalled after a recovery/refreshing process. So make sure you have all your product keys and so on.
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Originally posted by Boogie:
They cost a lot but last far longer. Every one of my Windows laptops has got slower and slower, clunkier and clunkier.
Mine don't.
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Originally posted by Boogie:
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Originally posted by Thyme:
It might be worth trying this on your old windows laptop and keeping it in reserve when your Macbook is up and running.
Thanks Thyme, I will do that. We have an external hard drive and also cloud space to save precious files.
I will need to keep my laptop going as I have the latest Photoshop on it and don't want to buy it again for the Mac.
The latest Photoshop is cross-platform compatible, isn't it? I have Creative Cloud, so I can use it anywhere, but I certainly have used it on my work PC and my home Mac.
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The program does not reside in the cloud, you still download a version for your operating system. The common bit they share is you still must sign over your soul to Adobe.
If you have the last stand-alone versions, you are allowed multiple installs, but I'm not sure if that includes multiple platforms.
Adobe deserves their own Hell thread.
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Microsoft Admits Windows 10 Automatic Spying Cannot Be Stopped
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...despite offering some options to turn elements of tracking off, core data collection simply cannot be stopped:....you cannot switch off everything
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'Tis spyware this M$ Windbag 10. But then the Legion of Decency, corporations and gov't spy agencies also have their fingers up our asses.
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Apple does it too. Android does it, everybody does. Except maybe Linux. For Linux, I think you need a third-party shell that only spies for some installs.
If you must hate, hate accurately.
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I am hating accurately. Linux doesn't spy unless you want it to, but then only to your repository sources which you specifically identify. You can use an "update manager" if you want, either as comes with default installs of things like Linux Mint, or you can install one yourself. Uninstall or turn off the utility, and you're done with it.
You can see exactly what repositories (software sources) that it is checking and add or subtract these at will. Though we've set up all the Linux computers to only update through manual which is explicit and only possible if I've given users the admin password. code:
$ su
$ apt-get update
$ apt-get upgrade
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Ha! I knew there was somewhere round here I could rant about Windows 10! Or rather about the sneaky and dishonest behaviour of Microsoft in installing it on my machine when I didn't want it. I knew I hadn't actively agreed to it. We were planning to do it at some point before it stopped being free but being in the midst of preparations for an imminent international move we don't really have the time to learn a new operating system and fiddle around with whatever you need to do with Windows 10 to make it remotely private.
But my main complaint is about Microsoft.
According to here the way they have done this is by making it so that when you click the corner X to close the window that pops up to offer you the upgrade to Windows 10 it has been set to take that as explicit authorization to proceed! Outrageous to change the way something functions to trick people into something they didn't authorise.
And I've now wasted an hour and a half this morning waiting for the stupid thing to install rather than getting on with the things that I actually turned the computer on to do. ![[Mad]](angryfire.gif)
Not impressed Microsoft. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
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I keep clicking the x to close that pop up (and, each time wonder how many times I need to do it before someone takes the hint that I like Windows 8 and don't feel any need to "upgrade"). It hasn't seemed to take that as an authorisation to install it.
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According to that article, Alan, it depends entirely on whether or not your system is set to install "Recommended" updates.
Mine isn't, thank goodness, only "Important" ones. But how utterly disgusting.
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
I keep clicking the x to close that pop up (and, each time wonder how many times I need to do it before someone takes the hint that I like Windows 8 and don't feel any need to "upgrade"). It hasn't seemed to take that as an authorisation to install it.
I have been doing likewise and it never installed it until today... It sounds like it might be a recent change, so be aware folks!
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OK, mine was set to install recommended updates. So, by rights it should have upgraded to Windows 10 automatically, but hasn't. Maybe I've just been lucky.
I've just changed it so it will download them, but let me choose whether to install them.
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Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
Windows 10 is like being forced to eat all of your vegetables and still getting a spanking.
That's a premium service, you realise?
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The spanking? You'd be in great peril.
The constant badgering to install Windows 10 is almost certain temptation. Who will save us from this terrible peril?
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Originally posted by Lucia:
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Originally posted by Alan Cresswell:
I keep clicking the x to close that pop up (and, each time wonder how many times I need to do it before someone takes the hint that I like Windows 8 and don't feel any need to "upgrade"). It hasn't seemed to take that as an authorisation to install it.
I have been doing likewise and it never installed it until today... It sounds like it might be a recent change, so be aware folks!
It happened to my wife today. Read this.
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Is it true that Microshaft is flogging adverts on your windows10 start menu? This link says they are going to increase in number. I had no idea you folks were getting ads before you even openned a web browser.
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Is it true that Microshaft is flogging adverts on your windows10 start menu? This link says they are going to increase in number. I had no idea you folks were getting ads before you even openned a web browser.
Apps, not ads. (Yes, I know that's what some braindead subeditor titled it as). They are just tiles on the right hand side.
You don't need to look at the start menu at all most days - just put the commonly used app startup links on the taskbar (or the desktop if you must), just like any other OS. And if you are going to use the start menu, you will no doubt be looking for the less-used stuff on the LHS.
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I have multiple computers.
On one of them I have win7 and Win10 dual-booting as I manage my gentle switch over.
One of my PCs is a Media Center. As this feature has now been removed, I am definitely not updating that PC to win 10.
This might help
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Read this.
So, this change was "based on user feedback"? That would be all the users who have spent the last 10 months closing the pop-up because we like our current operating system and don't want to change? Or, maybe don't really like it but we know it runs everything we need to use, and aren't sure that Win10 will and don't want to risk losing access to vital software. The users who would much rather not see that pop up at all? Who are these users who a) haven't already upgraded and b) want to make it easier to upgrade?
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Well, I'm on Windows 7 and I'm now getting hassled by Microsoft every time I turn on my computer. By treading very carefully, I've managed to evade the "upgrade" - but it's getting harder and harder.
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You'd have thought someone in Microsoft would have realised that after 10 months of clicking "No" to the offer of a free upgrade that there's a very good chance that the upgrade is not wanted.
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It's been mentioned before on this thread, but I've installed this gwx thing that stops Windows from nagging me.
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You don't have to install anything - just switch the nag screen off (details everywhere). Anyway, it will go away entirely in a couple of months if Micro$oft follow up on their stated plans, as that's when the free upgrade period expires. You can of course pay for it thereafter.
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For those who want to know, the Win 7 update to watch out for is KB3035583. Right click it and hide it. As I've just done.
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I still have dreams of showing for work at Microsoft, and reassuring them it's a free service, and doing it until they get the analogy.
I find it staggering that anyone ever thought this would play out well in PR terms.
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And I've just installed the GWX control panel to (hopefully) make even the invites stop.
I've just seen one comment comparing Microsoft to a rapist, and while I wouldn't go that far yet, they're currently the big sweaty guy who's sat next to you at the bar and keeps buying you drinks regardless of whether you show any interest.
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Looks like Microsoft is beginning to backpedal ever so slightly. After I sent the Australian office a cranky message via Facebook, they said they were very sorry about the automatic upgrade and sent me links to two pages: one about rollback (though it wasn't immediately clear whether this meant full rollback to a previous version of Windows), and one to this page which, in its latest revision, faintly acknowledges that maybe you simply don't WANT this upgrade at all.
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