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quote:
Originally posted by Sarasa:
The celery sauce I do has eggs and herbs in it, but I guess there is a variety of recipes.

I found the recipe! 2 egg yolks? [Smile]

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Originally posted by Gee D:
We can never understand how brussel sprouts could ever be thought of as festive food. And to go back to Piglet's post, how people could waste their good works to bring them forward.

I can eat a few sprouts a couple of times in winter. The super tiny baby ones.

I think this is a reason most of us down here would never think of sprouts at Christmas. Christmas is summer! Any sprouts around down here then would have been in storage and be revolting or would perhaps be imported at a cost of who knows what in food miles as well as cash. I do not think they would be a good accompaniment to prawns or other seafood at all.

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Exactly, Lothlorien. I like seasonal sprouts in winter to accompany other roast vegetables or alongside casseroles. They have a little brassica bitterness and some cabbagey comfort lurking there.

In the blazing heat of summer with ripe melons and peaches on sale everywhere, small packets of inordinately expensive imported brussels sprouts are just bizarre. Bah humbug.

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As bad as out-of-season and tasteless imported Asparagus.
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quote:
Originally posted by MaryLouise:
... cabbagey comfort ...

Oxymoron of the week! [Overused] [Killing me]

In other news, we are now in possession of a Christmas tree; Canadian T*** were having a sale yesterday and I managed to persuade D. that spending $70 instead of $140 was quite a bargain.

It came with 100 incandescent white lights, but whether that'll be enough remains to be seen. I have a garland with lights on that I might plunder if I think the tree looks too bare. I'll also need to raid a dollar-store for a few baubles.

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Did anyone do their Stirring Up today?

I didn't, as neither of us really likes Christmas pudding quite enough to justify (a) the expense or (b) the faff of making it. The idea has huge appeal - having the house smelling all lovely and Christmassy - but it wouldn't really be worth it.

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Not being Anglican, we didn't do any stirring up. We did, however, celebrate Christ as King.

(Oh, pudding? We bought ours, ready-made, a couple of weeks ago. As ever, it will get cooked in the microwave on the Day.)

[ 26. November 2017, 21:44: Message edited by: Baptist Trainfan ]

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I've got a couple of Christmas puds left over from last year, so we shall have one of those.

I love Christmas pudding, although it can sometimes get fraught in the M. household about whether to have it with custard or cream. I like custard, and Macarius is wrong.

We usually end up with both.

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Christmas pudding = rum sauce - nothing better, certainly not brandy butter.

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I'm afraid I've got a case of the ""bah, humbugs" as I've seen a number of houses with Christmas trees and lights up already ☹️

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Nothing much round here yet, but we is Poor Folks, yer Honour, and can't afford the Lecktricicity....

Our Place is preparing for Advent, of course, being Good Anglicans - the Advent wreath is being made ready, and the first candle will be duly lit on Sunday. Rose-pink on Advent 3, of course, with the rose-pink chasuble on its second outing this year!

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quote:
Originally posted by M.:
... whether to have it with custard or cream. I like custard, and Macarius is wrong ...

Oh no he isn't! [Devil]

I don't mind custard, but Christmas pudding (or mince pies for that matter) without lots of cream is an Abomination.

You can keep the brandy butter as well ...

St. G. - it's as well you don't live round our way - someone round the corner from the new château has had his garden lit up like Blackpool since the beginning of November. [Mad]

Our Advent candle-bridges will go up next weekend (and stay up until Candlemas), and the tree probably the weekend after; D's birthday is the 10th, and I usually start getting decorative sometime round then.

One of the decorations that did make the move was a garland wound with lights that I used to wind round the (very short - about half a dozen stair-rods) banister rail in the old château; as the new one doesn't have stairs, I'm not sure what to do with it. Cannibalise it for the lights? Hang it on the curtain-pole in the sitting-room?

Any better ideas gratefully received. [Smile]

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Dear Spouse has indicated she wants tortiere (French- Canadian spiced pork pie) for Christmas dinner -- something different. But I 'm in. And roasted sprouts pair beautifully with that.;-)

The adults in our family are all weary of buying gifts for each other. We're concentrating on the grandchildren, one of whom has developed an interest in camping thanks to the Girl Scouts (her parents are the most nature- averse people I have EVER met, so this development filled me with joy), while her sister -- well, she is a whirling dervish, but on the rare occasions she slows down she seems to like toy horses, plus anything her big sister does.

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I'd never come across tourtière until we moved over the Pond, and I feel much the same about it as I do about Brussels sprouts - I'll eat it if politeness demands, but I'd never buy it or choose it in a restaurant.

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I lean towards whipped cream on a Christmas pudding on account of its being less heavy. However, the whole debate is a secondary issue, ISTM. The really important thing is that said confection must be on fire. If it ain’t flambéed, I’m starting a revolution.

(My parents are crossing the Channel for Christmas, and the pudding is arriving in the suitcase [Big Grin] )

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Whipped cream? 'Tis an abomination on Christmas pud.
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I'm currently candying an orange for a Hidden Orange Christmas pud. I'll let you know how it turns out in a month's time. My money says it won't look like the picture accompanying the recipe.

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I shouldn't worry about that, RGO. Recipes cooked by Mere Mortals never look quite as they do in the book! [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
I'd never come across tourtière until we moved over the Pond, and I feel much the same about it as I do about Brussels sprouts - I'll eat it if politeness demands, but I'd never buy it or choose it in a restaurant.

Even this vegetarian insists on a slice or two of tortiere for Christmas Eve. Not that I'm likely to get any in the benighted wasteland that is Southwestern Ontario. [Waterworks]

Proper tortiere is of the Gods.

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Spiced pork-PIE does sound rather alluring (not to Piglets, though, understandably).

I dote on PIE, so I'll have to see if it's available here in Ukland...

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Baubles and an extra set of lights have now been procured and will be affixed to the aforementioned tree in the near future.

I could be beginning to feel quite festive. [Smile]

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Tut, tut - Advent hasn't even started yet!

How dare you call yourself an Anglican?

[ 29. November 2017, 06:57: Message edited by: Baptist Trainfan ]

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One of the children's friends asked for the recipe for rum sauce so number 2 son supplied this:
  • 1 ounce butter
  • 1 ounce plain flour
  • ½ teaspoon fresh grated nutmeg
  • ½ pint milk
  • ¼ pint cream (optional)
  • zest of 1 lemon
  • ¼ pint rum (to personal taste, can be more)

I think I now know why I fell asleep last time we had Christmas pudding.

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The first Mrs. BF and I used to thoroughly enjoy going to her parents for Christmas, as Ma-in-law was a firm advocate of the 'Alcohol in Everything' principle of festive cooking....

We were not, however, allowed to fall asleep after Christmas Pudding. No, no - Pa-in-law would forcibly lead us all on a long tramp into the Peak District (they lived on the south-western edge of Sheffield).

This, of course, roused our appetites for tea, which included CAKE laced with various spirits.

[Help]

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No Queen’s speech?

Her Maj was always on in our house in days gone by because my grandmother wanted to watch. Last year my (French) husband insisted that he wished to be initiated into this great British tradition and we were duly installed in front of the telly at 3 pm.

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No, the In-Laws were not particularly enamoured of the Holy and Sacred Royal Family (despite Pa-in-law being a senior Civil Servant - not quite Sir Humphrey grade, though).

Church at 11am, dinner at 1pm, walk at 3pm, tea and CAKE at 6pm or thereabouts, depending on the depth of sn*w encountered. Ah, happy days!

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quote:
Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
Tut, tut - Advent hasn't even started yet!

How dare you call yourself an Anglican?

I'm not going to put it up until the weekend after next - just get it ready and make sure everything that should work does. There's nothing worse than getting everything set up, plugging it in and finding that the lights are b*ggered.

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Sensible Piglet!

Happy Advent, when it arrives...

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[Smile]

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The only bit of Christmas decoration I allow before the middle of December is a wreath on our front door and that not until December 1st. I was looking at them in our local market today though and trying to decide how blingy I want to go.
Son came home for the weekend, but food discussion didn't get very far. We both agreed a stuffed cauliflower recipe looked interesting, but wouldn't transport very well so I think it'll be wellington again this year.
Jacobson the celery sauce recipe is worth it - everyone I've tried it on has loved it.

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Would your lovely celery sauce go with the spiced pork-PIE mentioned earlier, do you think?

IJ

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Thanksgiving with family was great and now comes the anticipation of Advent.
Advent calendars have been duly dispatched to daughters and grandchildren.
We will start with the Advent Procession at our Cathedral this Saturday and gradually add little details of decoration to the house throughout the month until the tree goes up in the final week.
I so love this time of year. [Axe murder]

This has been such a difficult year for our family so we'll no doubt arrive at the big day battered, bruised but better for being together.

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May it be so, Mrs. B!

Meanwhile, does anyone know where I might buy tourtiere PIE in this country? A brief search online seems to indicate that I'd have to make it myself, and I. Can't. Cook.

[Disappointed]

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quote:
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May it be so, Mrs. B!

Meanwhile, does anyone know where I might buy tourtiere PIE in this country? A brief search online seems to indicate that I'd have to make it myself, and I. Can't. Cook.

[Disappointed]

IJ

Do you not have pork pies in the UK? A poor substitute, because it would not have that magical combination of spices used in tortiere. The official pie is pork and veal, but a mixture of pork and mince will work just as well. As to spices, check out a recipe. Making it is as simple as buying a ready made pie shell, mixing the meat combo with diced onion and two raw eggs and popping it all in oven for 30-40 minutes at 350F.

If this is all to much to contemplate, perhaps one of your church ladies might give you a helping hand.

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Pete, would this recipe cut the mustard (so to speak)?

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Received my first Xmas card in Wednesday - from Hong Kong - the earliest ever.

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Sure it wasn't from last year, running a bit late?

[Two face]

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quote:
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Pete, would this recipe cut the mustard (so to speak)?

Yes and very similar to my Gran's. Strange you use the term "cut the mustard" It reminded me that, unlike most, I like my pie with a sharp mustard. English, by preference. Homemade chili sauce would be ok, too. Never catsup, as that is for people with warped minds or undeveloped taste buds.

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I received my first Christmas letter two weeks ago. The person who sent it is a full-time Organist/Choir Director, so he knows that if his cards or letters are not mailed out before Thanksgiving they're not going to be sent.

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quote:
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... I like my pie with a sharp mustard ...

A quite possibly heretical thought has just occured to me: tourtière might be really rather nice with Branston pickle.

It works with haggis (which may also be heretical) ... [Big Grin]

The haggis season starts today (the feast of St. Andrew); I've got minced lamb in the freezer, and will be looking out for lamb or chicken livers whenever I'm in a supermarket, as we're having some friends round to take in the New Year and I'm planning on making haggis for the occasion.

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quote:
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... plugging it in and finding that the lights are b*ggered.

I assembled the tree last night and when I plugged it in, only the top half of the lights lit up. What an embuggerance*, I thought - until I realised that because it came in two parts, the lights were two sets of 50 rather than one set of 100. Once I'd sussed that out (and added 100 of my own) it really looked rather pretty.

I had bought a box of silver baubles to add to it, and found that they don't include anything to hang them up with, so I've been burglarising any odd bits of wire I can find to make little hooks to hang them up. Why on earth wouldn't they come with something to hang them up by?

[Confused]

* with thanks to the late Sir Terry Pratchett for that most useful word

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Originally posted by Piglet:
... plugging it in and finding that the lights are b*ggered.

I assembled the tree last night and when I plugged it in, only the top half of the lights lit up. What an embuggerance*, I thought - until I realised that because it came in two parts, the lights were two sets of 50 rather than one set of 100. Once I'd sussed that out (and added 100 of my own) it really looked rather pretty.

I had bought a box of silver baubles to add to it, and found that they don't include anything to hang them up with, so I've been burglarising any odd bits of wire I can find to make little hooks to hang them up. Why on earth wouldn't they come with something to hang them up by?

I'm afraid I cannot approve of putting up the tree so early. (Santa decorates it on Christmas Eve!) However, putting that custom-difference aside for the moment, I have grown to profoundly dislike the use of "minilights," particularly those strings that have EVERY light go out if one minibulb is loose. Crappy technology. Some years ago I went back to good ol' C7 bulbs (which you can now get in LED versions [Yipee] ) allowing me to happily screw in just the color I want where I want it, and if one of the bulbs goes out or is removed, the rest of the string keeps shining happily!

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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Dim old Miss Amanda (excuse the pun) can't figure out who's quoting whom in the previous frame, so she'll just respond without quoting anyone.

Way too early to put up a tree! We've barely put away our gold Christ the King vestments, let alone got out the Advent purple.

Over here they sell little packets of hooks to use on Christmas tree ornaments. Are they not available elsewhere?

When I was a child (admittedly back in the Dark Ages), all Christmas tree lights were wired in series, which meant that if one burnt out then the whole string would go out. It was a chore to find out which one was the bum one. Then someone got the bright idea (again, pardon the pun) of wiring them in parallel, so that if one went out the rest of the string wasn't affected.

Now we're back to wiring them in series? Strange how what goes around, comes around.

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Piglet
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quote:
Originally posted by Hedgehog:
I'm afraid I cannot approve of putting up the tree so early ...

Neither do I. [Razz]

In answer to Miss Amanda's question, I did see packets of hooks, but I imagined they were for either replacements or individually-bought decorations; it didn't occur to me that you'd need them on a brand-new box of baubles.

I think I've found enough bits and pieces of wire that I won't need them anyway.

Regarding lights and the wiring thereof, I agree it would be much easier if only one would go out at a time. I don't know why they changed it (although I'm sure there'll be a logical explanation somewhere).

Oh, and Hedgehog - colours??? Is outrage!!! [Big Grin]

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Amanda B. Reckondwythe

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The RC cathedral here in Phoenix puts up trees in the sanctuary on Advent 1, but doesn't decorate them until Christmas eve. It's sort of interesting -- quite penitential, in fact -- to see the bare trees.

Unfortunately they leave the decorated trees up until Candelmas, after everyone is thoroughly sick of seeing them, on the excuse that "That's the way they do it in the Vatican." Surely Epiphany should be the day (at the very latest) when the trees are taken down and all other Christmas ornaments put away.

Personally I think Gaudete Sunday is plenty early for the tree to go up, and New Year's Day is when it comes down.

But living alone in my old age, I don't bother with a tree anymore. A poinsettia out on the patio, and maybe a wreath on the door, but that's it.

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Hedgehog

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quote:
Originally posted by Piglet:
Oh, and Hedgehog - colours??? Is outrage!!! [Big Grin]

The Lord God made them all, and by God I'm gonna use them!

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quote:
Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
... they leave the decorated trees up until Candelmas ...

I put the candle-bridges up this afternoon, and they'll stay up until Candlemas; the rest of the stuff will come down at Epiphany.

I knew people in Northern Ireland who would take their decorations down on Boxing Day which, as a Scot who likes to celebrate New Year, I found very strange indeed. Mind you, they'd probably been up since mid/late November ...

I've also decorated the tree but not put it up - Hedgehog please note. [Big Grin]

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Wreath went on the door last Friday and the tree went up yesterday. The next thing will be some seasonal greenery for the grate of my ugly but much loevd Victorian fire-place.

I've even managed to send off a few (a very few) Christmas cards.

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Hah! Bumhug!

I was in church today, simply rejoicing in the Advent austerity - no flowers, purple hangings, a tiny bit of evergreenery on the Advent wreath (enlivened only by the rose-pink candle for the extravagant luxury of Advent III)....

To Nether Hell with all this tinselled frippery..

Now, where's that crust of stale bread? I've found a nice piece of CHEESE to go with it, once I've scraped the green bits off.

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The blown bulb on one of the candle-bridges has been replaced, so the windows look nice and festive, but I couldn't find a nice simple star for the top of the tree - the only ones seemed so big and heavy that the branch probably wouldn't hold them up.

A star hanging from the curtain rail above the tree will have to do.

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