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Thread: The State of the Union Show -- does anyone care? If so, about what?
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The Riv
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Will you tune in? Will you be part of tonight's viewing audience that will pale in comparison to the Superbowl's, the Academy Awards', or the Grammys'? Are you interested in The First Lady's dress, her menagerie of feel-good guests, or perhaps a (any) policy directive? Will you laugh? Will you cry? Will you think it's better than CATS?
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GRAM ! GRAM ! EPIGRAM !
You don't get me I'm part of the union ...
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Og, King of Bashan
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Meh, the guests will never get better for me than the year Bush II invited Denver basketball hero Dikembe Mutombo (that was before his conflict gold scandal, and to me, he will always be the finger wagging shot blocker who helped the Nuggets beat the Number One seed in the Playoffs).
"Man cannot fly in the House of Mutombo"
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RuthW
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Originally posted by The Riv:
Will you tune in?
N***, I'll be getting ready to go out and celebrate Mardi Gras -- gotta have something to repent of tomorrow!
Gluttony makes a man gloomy and fearful, but fasting makes him joyful and courageous.
-- ~Saint Nikolai of Zicha~
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The Riv
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Nothing beat VP Biden's 'smolder' look (for the ladies?) after the bit re: the renewal of the Violence Against Women Act. That was priceless.
In general, though, it looked as if neither of the men behind the POTUS had ever sat there before, or realized that they were under the public microscope. Cringy.
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moron
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Barry The Cable Guy got a teensy bit hung up on the get er done line. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I thought Marco Rubio's response was pretty good overall and I imagine Joe/Hillary are puckering.
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Mere Nick
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I've heard the wind blow before. The bad thing is that he's coming here to Asheville today to ramble on in person.
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Niteowl
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I enjoyed Ted Nugent's scowl. He stood out from his fellow Republicans who, with a few exceptions, were much better behaved then they have been the other 3 of Obama's SOTU speeches. They finally realized image counts.
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The Riv
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Sadly, THIS is a foregone conclusion in American politics any more. It's just soooooo precious that anyone would imply that the dress demonstrated bipartisanship. LOL
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tclune
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Originally posted by The Riv:
Sadly, THIS is a foregone conclusion in American politics any more. It's just soooooo precious that anyone would imply that the dress demonstrated bipartisanship. LOL
ISTM that the real disfunction is in talking about the FLOTUS dress instead of the POTUS speech. Alas, I wished that he would have made at least a passing attempt at offering an olive branch to Republicans.
BTW, Frontline had a truly excellent show on the fiscal showdown and what happened when. I was surprised to learn that Boenher was actually telling the truth when he said he had a deal with Obama that Obama walked away from at the last minute -- apparently because a chimerical deal among Dem and Repub Senators looked like it would benefit him more. Of course, that deal never materialized, and the one he walked away from then collapsed, leaving Boenher in a weakened state within his caucus. It's well worth watching.
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Wilfried
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Alas, I wished that he would have made at least a passing attempt at offering an olive branch to Republicans.
He did that all last term, and look what it got him. He's finally manning up.
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tclune
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Originally posted by Wilfried:
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Originally posted by tclune:
Alas, I wished that he would have made at least a passing attempt at offering an olive branch to Republicans.
He did that all last term, and look what it got him. He's finally manning up.
Again, let me suggest you catch the Frontline special on the fiscal negotiations. It appears that he actually had a deal with Boehner that he walked away from, causing all sorts of problems for everybody involved.
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Porridge
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Originally posted by The Riv:
Sadly, THIS is a foregone conclusion in American politics any more. It's just soooooo precious that anyone would imply that the dress demonstrated bipartisanship. LOL
Doesn't it show that the FLOTUS supports the right to bare arms?
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The Riv
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I think I did catch the last two minutes of that FRONTLINE program, if it is what aired immediately before the SOTU Show.
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moron
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Originally posted by tclune:
I was surprised to learn that Boenher was actually telling the truth when he said he had a deal with Obama that Obama walked away from at the last minute -- apparently because a chimerical deal among Dem and Repub Senators looked like it would benefit him more.
I was surprised to learn you found it surprising. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
Obama has been beyond dispute demonstrated to be a liar on more than a few occasions, and we aren't talking about little white ones (can you say that RE Obama? ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif) ).
Not to mention he increasingly is coming across like one of those who REALLY doesn't do well with power... I remain hopeful however that before it all ends as badly as it might that the 'press' will begin to recover some semblance of their moral duty and begin to hold the guy's feet at least in the same room as the fire.
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tclune
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I was surprised to learn you found it surprising.
Oh, I drank the KoolAid before KoolAid was Kool. But I did expect that the press would do a better job of covering such important aspects of our governance than they appear to have been doing. Well, Mencken said, "No one ever went broke under-estimating the intelligence of the American public." But I didn't think he was talking about me...
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