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Schroedinger's cat
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quote: Originally posted by Firenze: We could just call it 'Bonkers!'
What of those who don't.....
Maybe Bonkers and Wankers. Which covers 99% of the shipmates anyway.
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Oscar the Grouch
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Perhaps one of the first threads for this board might be a "lost in translation" one, whereby we can explain to one another our different euphemisms to avoid unnecessary (but often amusing) confusion.
Mrs Grouch edits books. Not so long ago, she had to edit a book written by a couple of Canadians. In it, there were a number of references to the practice of Canadians going to their holiday cottages at weekends. They referred to this, repeatedly, as "cottaging".
(If you don't know the UK usage for the term "cottaging", check out Wikipedia )
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Adam.
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It's interesting both that slang here is so variable, and that any metonymic naming is taken as so strong an act of norm-claiming as to be offensive as to those who reject that norm (or any).
How about "The Birds and the Bees"?
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quote: Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch: In it, there were a number of references to the practice of Canadians going to their holiday cottages at weekends. They referred to this, repeatedly, as "cottaging".
(If you don't know the UK usage for the term "cottaging", check out Wikipedia )
That's crazy! We're members of a "cottaging association" if that helps. There's a phone list, we have barbeques, golf tournaments, cabarets, and fireworks (the latter for the Aug long weekend, just past). None of this will be the same again!
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Doublethink.
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I'll never see you in quite the same way again ....
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Oscar the Grouch
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quote: Originally posted by no prophet: quote: Originally posted by Oscar the Grouch: In it, there were a number of references to the practice of Canadians going to their holiday cottages at weekends. They referred to this, repeatedly, as "cottaging".
(If you don't know the UK usage for the term "cottaging", check out Wikipedia )
That's crazy! We're members of a "cottaging association" if that helps. There's a phone list, we have barbeques, golf tournaments, cabarets, and fireworks (the latter for the Aug long weekend, just past). None of this will be the same again!
Well, just be careful about how you discuss all this with any one from the UK - or they may get entirely the wrong idea about you!
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Doublethink.
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On a similar note, I seem to recall the teabaggers becoming the tea party with a certain speed.
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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quote: Originally posted by no prophet: Bonkers just means 'crazy' to my Canadian ear.
That's still its primary meaning in the UK. 'Bonking' OTOH is understood slang for sex. (I have a friend who, in lieu of a wedding anniversary, would refer to a 'bonkaversary').
So I was going for the Mildly Mad Sex angle.
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RuthW
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quote: Originally posted by Doublethink: On a similar note, I seem to recall the teabaggers becoming the tea party with a certain speed.
Actually, they started off as the Tea Party, in reference to the Boston Tea Party. The term teabagger was applied to them about 15 minutes later by those of us who don't like them, but it was in fact not their original moniker.
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Doublethink.
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OIC - reality slightly disappoints yet again.
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ecumaniac
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quote: Originally posted by Robert Armin: "The Second Coming"
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lilBuddha
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A bit. A naughty bit.
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Brenda Clough
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Oh, let's!
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Doublethink.
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Are you volunteering to host ?
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Justinian
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Sounds like an interesting idea. Not necessarily a good one. But an interesting one so I'll support it. And take half a step forward to volunteer to host (i.e. if anyone else wants to, be my guest).
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David
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Can I just say, in my defence, "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles" was a JOKE NAME for the board, and I still have no idea why Simon went for it. Maybe he could explain.
I would be more than happy - ecstatic even - if, were it to be resurrected, the name gets changed.
Also, unless I'm much mistaken, the first T&T incarnation was on the original Neoworks boards, where people could be anonymous under "Cap'n Morgan's Rules". But I'm probably much mistaken, I usually am.
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Eutychus
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It seems to me that this thread is turning into a reincarnation of the theme already.
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Moo
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quote: Originally posted by David: Also, unless I'm much mistaken, the first T&T incarnation was on the original Neoworks boards, where people could be anonymous under "Cap'n Morgan's Rules". But I'm probably much mistaken, I usually am.
I remember a few threads on the Neoworks boards that followed Cap'n Morgan's Rules. (No one posted using their real name or their ship name.) These threads were not separate from the others; they were mixed in.
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Spike
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quote: Originally posted by David:
Also, unless I'm much mistaken, the first T&T incarnation was on the original Neoworks boards, where people could be anonymous under "Cap'n Morgan's Rules". But I'm probably much mistaken, I usually am.
You are very much mistaken. Both incarnations of T&T were after the move to UBB
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RuthW
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quote: Originally posted by David: Can I just say, in my defence, "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles" was a JOKE NAME for the board, and I still have no idea why Simon went for it. Maybe he could explain.
I would be more than happy - ecstatic even - if, were it to be resurrected, the name gets changed.
I will lobby hard for a different name if there is a formal proposal for the Eighth Day board.
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guinness girl
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I'd love to see it return - it was T&T that introduced me to the Ship when I was a green and relatively innocent 20 year old student. At the time, I was asking all kinds of questions about this sort of thing and was utterly delighted to find Christians talking about it openly. It was highly educational and entertaining and i'd be interested to discuss the same sorts of things 12 years later, with the inevitable shifts in opinions those years have wrought.
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Ariel
Shipmate
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I've sometimes wondered if one reason for its name was because it could be easily abbreviated to TNT and they were hoping it would go with a bang.
(It's actually quite difficult to post to this thread without getting at least one innuendo in there.)
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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I think we should just call it Debauchery.
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Teufelchen
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I hope no-one minds if I bump this thread by cautiously expressing interest. I missed both the previous incarnations of T&T, and it sounds like a potentially, er, fruitful area. At least in limited quantity.
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Porridge
Shipmate
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Oh, for pity's sake. Just change the initials: instead of T & T (& Ruth is right to object), go for the primaries: Cocks & Cunts, or Pricks & Pussies.
Though the "Friction" one is great, too.
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lilBuddha
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quote: Originally posted by RuthW: ]I will lobby hard for a different name if there is a formal proposal for the Eighth Day board.
Perhaps you should start by lobbying gently, building tempo slowly, establish a rhythm, speeding the pace and finally a crashing, erm, conclusion. Some of us prefer that kind of, um, lobbying.
damn, now I need a piece of chocolate or something
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RuthW
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quote: Originally posted by Porridge: Oh, for pity's sake. Just change the initials: instead of T & T (& Ruth is right to object), go for the primaries: Cocks & Cunts, or Pricks & Pussies.
Though the "Friction" one is great, too.
It needs to be safe for work. The original name, "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles," was shortened to T&T because having the original title appear in big letters was problematic for people looking at the Ship's boards at work, in public libraries and the like.
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Gill H
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I remember when Ecclesiantics was being suggested (being a merger of two existing boards, one a high church hangout and the other an alt-worship one) I suggested 'Let's talk Tat 'n' Tealights' but fortunately that one didn't get through.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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There were definitely T&T type discussions under Cap'n Morgan's Rules before UBB, although T&T itself came later.
I'd lobby for some kind of anonymity being possible, or at least separation from one's regular board name. There are aspects of this topic that one might want to discuss without being Out. I remember the Cap'n Morgan's threads being better than the later T&T (nostalgia ain't what it used to be and all that notwithstanding) and that may have been the reason. You're not going to want to spend the rest of your ship life known as the person who asked whether anyone else found particular comfort in being tickled with wet string.
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Ariel
Shipmate
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It's probably too late for that. Years later, I still have indelible memories of some of the revelations.
It would attract quite a lot of people reading and considerably fewer posting. I also think the demographic has changed in the intervening years and doubt there would be that many posting to it now.
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Doc Tor
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quote: Originally posted by RuthW: quote: Originally posted by Porridge: Oh, for pity's sake. Just change the initials: instead of T & T (& Ruth is right to object), go for the primaries: Cocks & Cunts, or Pricks & Pussies.
Though the "Friction" one is great, too.
It needs to be safe for work. The original name, "Let's Talk Tits and Testicles," was shortened to T&T because having the original title appear in big letters was problematic for people looking at the Ship's boards at work, in public libraries and the like.
The obvious initialising is O&O, for Orchids and Ovaries. (Orchis is greek for testicle. But you knew that, right?)
Besides, O&O looks like my teenage daughter's expression when she listens to I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by Karl: Liberal Backslider: I'd lobby for some kind of anonymity being possible, or at least separation from one's regular board name.
The only way I can think of for that to happen is if we gave everyone who wanted to post to it a second login identity. And, frankly, that ain't gonna happen.
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Alan Cresswell
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Capn Morgans Rule worked on Neoworks because it was very easy to change the displayed name associated with each post. With UBB it would need an additional registration just for posting on that board for the one or two posts that required that separate identity. That would put work for the admins to approve those sockpuppets - we would need to know those ids, and in this instance close them down after the end of any 8D experiment.
I recall (my memory may be faulty) that on previous runs of T&T there had been discussions of allowing the hosts to make anonymous posts on behalf of others (eg: PM the host with what you'd want to share and they post that as a quote from "Mr X"). I can't remember whether or not we actually decided to do that, I'm fairly certain that it never happened and in the end people either shared what they wanted under their own screenname, or decided it wasn't worth sharing.
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Firenze
Ordinary decent pagan
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quote: Originally posted by Ariel: I also think the demographic has changed in the intervening years and doubt there would be that many posting to it now.
Yes, I think I'm into the Ballymena answer to 'what do you do about sex?' - 'We huv wur tea'.
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Alan Cresswell
Mad Scientist 先生
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I read that as "Ballamory" at first. That would make quite a story, and get a few letters written!
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Teufelchen
Shipmate
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quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: I read that as "Ballamory" at first. That would make quite a story, and get a few letters written!
My newish role as a parent makes me much more susceptible to this sort of thing.
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Jemima the 9th
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When Children A&B were tiny, and Balamory was on the telly all the bleedin' time, some mummy friends and I had great fun imagining what all the characters got up to.
Sleep deprivation does weird things to you.
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Gill H
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I know one of the cast. I could tell you some stories...
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Spike
Mostly Harmless
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quote: Originally posted by Gill H: I know one of the cast. I could tell you some stories...
I'm sure you could, but please do so in Heaven and we'll keep this thread for discussion about the 8th Day board.
Ta muchly
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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quote: Originally posted by Alan Cresswell: Capn Morgans Rule worked on Neoworks because it was very easy to change the displayed name associated with each post. With UBB it would need an additional registration just for posting on that board for the one or two posts that required that separate identity. That would put work for the admins to approve those sockpuppets - we would need to know those ids, and in this instance close them down after the end of any 8D experiment.
I recall (my memory may be faulty) that on previous runs of T&T there had been discussions of allowing the hosts to make anonymous posts on behalf of others (eg: PM the host with what you'd want to share and they post that as a quote from "Mr X"). I can't remember whether or not we actually decided to do that, I'm fairly certain that it never happened and in the end people either shared what they wanted under their own screenname, or decided it wasn't worth sharing.
Or belonged elsewhere...
It might well be a bit of a damp squib because of this however.
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Sioni Sais
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is Capn Morgan's Rule? On t'interweb I only get links to Captain Morgan's Rum.
I could make a guess but I'm sure I'd get it slightly wrong.
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Karl: Liberal Backslider
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In ye olde dayes before UBB, it was possible to change ones display name when posting.
This was mostly considered naughty and resulted in a trip to the Head's Office with newspaper stuffed down the trousers, but was allowed on threads that were declared to be under "Cap'n Morgan's Rules".
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Sioni Sais
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Thanks Karl.
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duchess
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T&T shocked me greatly when it came out years ago. I was shocked by the name, my Christian sensibilities just couldn't stand it. I had my rounds with the late, great Erin in some posts and I like to think I am a better person for it.
I rather am found of the old name for that reason. But we should move on into the present. I can see that I am stuck in the past.
This captures my feelings about T&T:
Inside everyone hides one desire Out side no one would know Danger close to the edge of the knife Safer not to let go
And while We miss chances You can almost hear Time slipping away
Go West - We Close Our Eyes Lyrics
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Ariel
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What would be the reasons for reviving this board?
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Horseman Bree
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Perhaps some people enjoy talking about sex?
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Ariel
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Precisely. YMMV, but personally I don't think it's either appropriate or wise to discuss your sex life on the internet.
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