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lilBuddha
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Here is a vid in which John Boyega answers that question.
Star Wars has always been a mix of British and American accents to me so I never gave it a thought. I sort of agree with his, and Abrams' decision. Though I think it could have been solved with diction rather than a change of nationality.

I loved that a black character has dimension. Not a caricature or stereotype. I think JB did a fantastic job.

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Finally got to see it today! Loved it... but the same quibble as others have mentioned about the weapon. In fact, how did they use it the first time, on the Republic, and then still have a sun left to use it again?

I was slightly spoilerized, I knew there was a major character death, just not whose, and I wasn't even thinking of it when Han was killed, so it came as a shock, as it should.

Loved the new characters. Worthy successors to the old ones. Even Ren being a pouty, pimply teenager.

One question, did it ever say who the old man at the beginning who gave the map to Po was? The opening identified him as an "old friend", but I didn't recognize him and I don't think they ever mentioned his name.

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Last night, I was honored to be able to watch Star Wars with St. Sebastian, who had not seen it yet. This was view number four for me, and I see new things each time.

Since I know what's going on regarding the main story, now I can pay attention to other details that make the story feel like someone's real life. One such thing is the doll that looks like an X-Wing pilot in Rey's AT-AT home.

Anyway, St. S was very excited about the movie, and we talked about it and the original three all the way to his car!

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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolemr:
One question, did it ever say who the old man at the beginning who gave the map to Po was? The opening identified him as an "old friend", but I didn't recognize him and I don't think they ever mentioned his name.

Wookiepedia is your friend - to this and many other questions!

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lor_San_Tekka

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quote:
Originally posted by Nicolemr:
... but the same quibble as others have mentioned about the weapon. In fact, how did they use it the first time, on the Republic, and then still have a sun left to use it again?

I didn't mind the sun draining, or the new-sun-finding - such things are explainable given the level of technology that has been achieved in this universe.

The bit that pissed me off was how instantaneous the whole thing was. A planet launches an attack on some other planets in a completely different star system, and it strikes home in about fifteen seconds? That's some faster-than-faster-than-light shit going on there! Even in-universe hyperdrive-powered spaceships wouldn't do the journey that quickly, and they can make point five past lightspeed!

But maybe the weapon fires super-duper-hyperdrive-capable beams. OK. So how in the name of Jabba's piano-playing elephant did the people on the weapon planet see it happen so quickly? Even if the attack itself only took fifteen seconds it should still have taken decades for the beams of light they're looking at light to reach them.

And don't give me any "they were in the same system" crap. Firstly, they clearly weren't because the Republic system still had a working sun, and secondly someone on Jupiter could attack Earth and there would still be a good half hour gap between the attack hitting home and it being visible to the attacker. And Jupiter is by no means the furthest planet from Earth in our solar system. Space Is BIG.

As for the fact that a group of people on a third unrelated planet were apparently able to look up at the sky and watch the whole thing go down in real time as well - that's just Binks-level bullshit.

That's my only problem with the movie, but boy is it a big one.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:
That's my only problem with the movie, but boy is it a big one.

Next thing you'll be complaining that no planet has more than one ecosystem. Or that no two locations on any given planet are more than a couple of hours apart at subsonic speeds.

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I do rather agree with Marvin - despite not having seen it yet.

People have no sense of scale. Dr Who with people living, unchanged, for 4 1/2 billion years (wasn't it) - as a friend says, if you can't tell the difference between that and waiting for a 68 bus...

It's one of the problems with creationists.

Terry Pratchett, in "Only You Can Save the World" had a character who devised a computer game on a voyage to Alpha Centauri, which worked in real time. Fifth quote down.

SW VI was the same though. Everyone knew the Emperor was dead at the same time. And had time to order the fireworks in.

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quote:
Originally posted by Marvin the Martian:

As for the fact that a group of people on a third unrelated planet were apparently able to look up at the sky and watch the whole thing go down in real time as well - that's just Binks-level bullshit.

That's my only problem with the movie, but boy is it a big one.

Not going to tell you what you should like or dislike. But Binks and the obvious science flaws are entirely different issues.
There is no level system to compare them.

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Did anyone else see Rey's transport (incidentally, I loved the near-dead planet strewn with wreckage), and think Massey Ferguson 35, or was it just me?

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That's exactly what I thought of! Rey's transport is a wee bit faster than the tractor I used to drive when I was a kid. [Biased]

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I thought of my uncle's old Farmall 100, but it's pretty much the same thing.

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My first and continued thought the entire time it was on screen was how inefficient a vehicle it was for a scavenger.
But I think this is more what they were trying to imply.

[ 02. February 2016, 17:25: Message edited by: lilBuddha ]

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Of course a long time separates the first trilogy and this new movie ... and we have seen other movie series in the meantime.

So when Rey and Kylo Ren are fighting in the snow and they both try to fetch the light sabre, all I could think was: "The wand chooses the wizard".

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LOL, MSHB.

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Indiana Jones Easter Egg in The Force Awakens

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I just saw it for the second time, and i think it holds up to repeated viewings, though the main plot holes still remain.

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