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Chorister
Completely Frocked
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Originally posted by RooK:
And I'm not changing my title. Because, really, by now the red maple leaf is synonymous with "spoiled asshole" anyway.
I'm finding it hard to keep up - who spoiled your asshole?
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Siegfried
Ship's ferret
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I missed it? ![[Waterworks]](graemlins/bawling.gif) I'll echo Flausa and others--Max (and his prior named versions) have pushed every button at least twice.
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Life is just a bowl of cherries!
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Tubbs
Miss Congeniality
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Originally posted by Gwai:
I think Tubbs has been found out. She only seems to be an informative, helpful person. Really, in the light of the moon, she's a spoiled brat, clearly.
Damn. You found me out. ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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jlg
What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by Mertseger:
The Ship's finally kicking Max. out of the nest and giving him chance to grow up already? Cool. I know it's against his call and all, but that boy needs to get laid. May the Goddess bless his journey onward from here, and good job H & A's, as usual.
I think we should mind our own business when it comes to young people's psycho-sexual development.
leo, having dealt with Max. over the years, I completely agree with you about this.
People, just shut up and let it go. Max. is banned but that doesn't mean he isn't reading all this crap. OK?
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Tubbs
Miss Congeniality
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Originally posted by leo:
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Originally posted by Mertseger:
The Ship's finally kicking Max. out of the nest and giving him chance to grow up already? Cool. I know it's against his call and all, but that boy needs to get laid. May the Goddess bless his journey onward from here, and good job H & A's, as usual.
I think we should mind our own business when it comes to young people's psycho-sexual development.
Indeed. Enough already.
Tubbs
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Sir Pellinore
Quester Emeritus
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Originally posted by QLib:
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Originally posted by Sir Pellinore (ret'd):
Not sure whether 'getting laid' in itself ever enlightened anyone. If that were true those who had really screwed around would be the most mature. ![[Killing me]](graemlins/killingme.gif)
That's your own false logic you're laughing at there, Pelly. Eating well is good for one's health - but those who eat the most aren't the healthiest.
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
Dressed for Church
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Oh, I don't know about that. Julia Child for one was pretty well ripened when the Lord finally plucked her out of the garden.
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Organ Builder
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
...Julia Child for one was pretty well ripened when the Lord finally plucked her out of the garden.
I'm not so sure if that was "ripened" or "pickled".
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Amanda B. Reckondwythe
Dressed for Church
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![[Overused]](graemlins/notworthy.gif)
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IngoB
Sentire cum Ecclesia
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Clearly, our overlords have done an outstanding job here, as always...
Now, some light mood music, perhaps?
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pjkirk
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To comment on the OP,
While the Ship as a whole is strongly Anglican-of-some-persuasion, it also has a much broader range of perspectives than any I have run across before. It really runs the gamut from clergy, to theologian, those questioning their Christianity (where I count myself now), those who have given it up, and some cohort from almost every representative group (or very non-representative, as it may be).
Yes, there's a strong bias, but in Purg and Hell, where I mostly lurk, it isn't overbearing (once I figure out the lingo). It is people giving their opinion, but not parading it as The Way, which makes it more than palatable.
This is also the only board where I can have some faith that most posters words are backed by often decades of pondering, learning, and thought on the issues. The level of conversation here, even when it gets stupid, is higher than any other non-specialist place I've found on the internet, while retaining a sense of humor.
So, would it be nice to see a bit more variety yet? Sure, perhaps. There's nothing about the current variety though that makes the Ship a less-than-tempting URL to type into my browser.
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Jahlove
Tied to the mast
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Originally posted by IngoB:
Now, some light mood music, perhaps?
I think Arcade Fire's song *My Body is a Cage* fits better, actually
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyp34v6Lmcc
almost scary, huh?
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RooK
1 of 6
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Originally posted by IngoB:
Now, some light mood music, perhaps?
Aside: I just re-watched that movie last weekend. I freaking love Sergio Leone and Ennio Morricone.
And now, back to plotting all your doom.
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jacobsen
seeker
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The question of representation hasn't yet, at least on this thread, as far as I've noticed, mentioned the shipmates who, like myself, have started out in one denomination, and remain perhaps officially in that one, but have experienced denominational drift into another. I'm a cradle RC, but have been cheerfully singing, worshipping and receiving in the C of E for 25 years. Where do I fit in?
Or could it be that the idea of equal(ish) representation is rather more complex than originally suggested?
[ 03. November 2009, 22:58: Message edited by: jacobsen ]
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Loquacious beachcomber
Shipmate
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Originally posted by RooK:
And now, back to plotting all your doom.
Well, RooK, why not invite everyone to join you in a hike on the boardwalk 1500 feet above the water in Pacific Rim National Park?
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Fuzzipeg
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Maybe the Anglican preponderance is why the Ship works.
If there was a Catholic bias it would become maudlin, self congratulatory and a bit saccharine and would probably become dominated by conservative Catholics and no-one else would be happy in that environment.
There would be a similar though different problems if the Ship were overwhelmingly Methodist or Baptist.
Let the Anglicans have it, I say. They could run an Empire so why not a Ship?
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Yerevan
Shipmate
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There would be a similar though different problems if the Ship were overwhelmingly Methodist or Baptist.
Oh do tell! Having been both a Methodist and a Baptist in my time I'm very curious.
My guess...
Methodist ship: The long dark committee meeting of the soul
Baptist ship: You think Purg is argumentative now?
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North East Quine
Curious beastie
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A Scottish Presbyterian ship would schism into two ships, which in turn would schism into more ships, till we'd end up with a Fleet of Fools, some parts of which would concentrate on the Dead Horses, and most parts of which would be a dab hand at Hell calls. Eccles would be deserted and the Circus would be shut on the Sabbath.
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Sandemaniac
Shipmate
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
A Scottish Presbyterian ship would schism into two ships, *snip*
Plus an extra schism every time anyone was so rash as to post on the same thread as a [Ian Paisley voice] CATHOLIC! [/Ian Paisley voice]?
(yes, I know Elvis is from the other side of the Irish Sea, but I find it very hard not thinking of him when the Wee Frees are getting their extra-strong reinforced thou shalt not pass gussets in a twist over the PAPISTS!)
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North East Quine
Curious beastie
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Also, that part of the fleet which had schismed and was sailing out of Stornoway, would of course remained berthed on the Sabbath. No Sunday sailings of the Ship!!
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Shadowhund
Shipmate
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Originally posted by Fuzzipeg:
Maybe the Anglican preponderance is why the Ship works.
If there was a Catholic bias it would become maudlin, self congratulatory and a bit saccharine and would probably become dominated by conservative Catholics and no-one else would be happy in that environment.
There would be a similar though different problems if the Ship were overwhelmingly Methodist or Baptist.
Let the Anglicans have it, I say. They could run an Empire so why not a Ship?
You mean Anglicans AREN'T self-congratulatory? You mean all of the moaning and groaning about "racism" and "sexism" from certain quarters of the Anglican world isn't maudlin?
I assumed that the main reason why Anglicans are (over?)represented had mostly to do with the fact that SOF is based in England and the word trickles mostly back to the United States and elsewhere that way. It would be shocking if the Boards were dominated by "Noncomformist shopkeepers" or Lake Wobegon Lutherans where all the children are above average.
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Fuzzipeg
Shipmate
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Of course Anglicans are all self congratulatory etc.
The difference is that they know it. They also know that they are not the only fish in the sea. What makes the Ship work is their expectation of disagreement and varying opinions amongst themselves and they naturally assume that the rest of us will fall in with that culture.
Within many other denominations there is not that tolerance of different opinions either within or without the ecclesiastical structure.
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Geneviève
Mother-Hatting Cat Lover
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Of course Anglicans are all self congratulatory etc
Well, we have a lot to congratulate ourselves about! ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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Yerevan
Shipmate
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They also know that they are not the only fish in the sea...
I'm not sure. Plenty of English Anglicans are amazingly ignorant about life beyond the C of E.
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Jengie jon
Semper Reformanda
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
Also, that part of the fleet which had schismed and was sailing out of Stornoway, would of course remained berthed on the Sabbath. No Sunday sailings of the Ship!!
The really problem is that the fleet is never finally built. Let me explain, they go through the schism building process, but they also have the opposite process as well, possibly when they realise another team of ship builders has managed to work out how to do something they are struggling with, then they merge together, trying to build one ship out of the two partly built ships. Only of course some don't like joining the combined ship building team so they start building another boat alongside. This continual process of splitting a recombining building teams, means that no single boat is never ever got to the stage where it is deemed sea worthy. Of course being Reformed there are endless disputes about what "seaworthy" means.
Jengie
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Divine Outlaw
Gin-soaked boy
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Originally posted by Fuzzipeg:
If there was a Catholic bias it would become maudlin, self congratulatory and a bit saccharine
Oh well then, maybe I'll stick around after all. We can make it happen.
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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Yay ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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Leetle Masha
Cantankerous Anchoress
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<sound of Orthodoxen, in their stalls, lowing respectfully to Think² and DOD>
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The Great Gumby
Ship's Brain Surgeon
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Originally posted by Gwai:
I don't think any denomination is in complete agreement with itself.
Certainly not the Anglicans, at any rate.
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Yerevan
Shipmate
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If there was a Catholic bias it would become maudlin, self congratulatory and a bit saccharine
You make that sound like such a BAD thing...
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Fuzzipeg
Shipmate
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Wow...maybe you have a point! Let's go for it then. We'll pop the Anglicans into Ordinaria and restrict them to Ecclesiantics and turn the Ship into an Armada!
I raise my glass of Benedictine to That!
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multipara
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Fuzzipeg, if there were a Catholic bias on the Ship it would most certainly NOT be maudlin or self-congratulatory while I continue to post.
m (definitely NOT a member of any private RC boards and just hanging in here to keep the resident RC bastards honest)
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multipara
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You should see what I wear IRL....never take an avatar seriously.
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five
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I certainly haven't seen an anti-Catholic bias here. Or at least any more of one than is anti-anything else. It is a kind of anti-everything board. But if you can put forth an actual argument, people will listen. If you can't, people will tell you it doesn't add up. That's what makes it fun!
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Barnabas62
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Originally posted by five:
It is a kind of anti-everything board. But if you can put forth an actual argument, people will listen. If you can't, people will tell you it doesn't add up. That's what makes it fun!
My little nonconformist legs were kicking with appreciation at this description. Thanks, five.
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Originally posted by Fuzzipeg:
I'm sorry, Multipara. I always assume people look like their avatars as I do.
I do hope not!
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Come let us sing of a wonderful love (1933 MHB No 314)
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Dal Segno
al Fine
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Originally posted by Fuzzipeg:
I'm sorry, Multipara. I always assume people look like their avatars as I do.
OMG
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Lyda*Rose
Ship's broken porthole
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I wouldn't either, if I were Joyeux. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
Not that far off for me. I am a bit of an old ruin.
[ 13. November 2009, 07:57: Message edited by: Lyda*Rose ]
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Foaming Draught
The Low in Low Church
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
I am a bit of an old ruin.
Agatha Christie said that the great thing about being married to an archaeologist (as she was) was that "the older you get, the more interested he becomes in you".
It's not only the Ship which suffers from decline in species diversity. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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For she is young and free
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Snowball in Hell
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I look exactly like my avatar.
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"It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.” -Calvin
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RooK
1 of 6
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Same here. Or, at least, part of me does.
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Mamacita
Lakefront liberal
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I used to look like my avatar.
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Lyda*Rose
Ship's broken porthole
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Originally posted by Foaming Draught:
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Originally posted by Lyda*Rose:
I am a bit of an old ruin.
Agatha Christie said that the great thing about being married to an archaeologist (as she was) was that "the older you get, the more interested he becomes in you".
It's not only the Ship which suffers from decline in species diversity.
That damned Christian rock scene is a dark abyss of the soul. ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
It is too bad, though. At least it doesn't sound like his order yanked him out (or did they?). And it's pretty healthy of him to know to get out when the getting was good.
By the way, do you know any straight, eligible, 50ish archeologists? Or maybe who I really need is a paleontologist? ![[Snigger]](graemlins/snigger.gif)
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jacobsen
seeker
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My avatar is wishful thinking.
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Beauty fades, dumb is forever-Judge Judy
The man who made time, made plenty.
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Lyda*Rose
Ship's broken porthole
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Jacobsen has kindly diverted this avatar tangent to Heaven for all who'd like to chat about it.
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