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Golden Key
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Originally posted by Gramps49:
Bumping this up. I heard from NPR that Trump plans on coming to London to see the new US Embassy. He is planning on meeting with PM May, but he will not be visiting the Queen. Too bad (NOT).
Aw. I bet the queen is heartbroken. ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
May will have to tell the queen what she missed.
Yesterday, I surfed into "Christmas With the Queen: Surprising Royal Family Holiday Traditions" (Cheatsheet).
I think she can stay happily busy--and will be away into February.
Some fun pics/clips of Herself, BTW. Over here, we usually only get pics where she's reserved. In some of these, she appears to be relaxed and really having fun.
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1. Donald Trump can't be coming to London "to see the new US Embassy" since plans for the building have only just been released (and pretty ghastly it looks too IMHO).
2. It isn't up to HM to disinvite him since he has been asked for a state visit, so it would be up to the state, in the shape of the government, to withdraw the invitation.
3. However, since no date was mentioned at the time the invitation was made, it can be delayed for any length of time.
In fact, if the government like to suggest that it waits until the new embassy is completed it would likely not take place until around 2021 at the earlier, and possibly considerably later - by which time, of course, DJT may no longer be POTUS ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Originally posted by L'organist:
1. Donald Trump can't be coming to London "to see the new US Embassy" since plans for the building have only just been released (and pretty ghastly it looks too IMHO).
![[Confused]](confused.gif) According to the London Evening Standard it's been built and will be opened, possibly by Mr Trump, in February. Unless this is the most blatant example of retrospective planning permission ever?
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The picture of the Embassy on BBC News and in the Times looked like the Borg mother-ship. And it's surrounded by a moat, to keep the natives at bas. So much for the Special Relationship. We can't blame Trump for the way it looks, though.
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Good luck to them having it ready for February: when I drove past 6 weeks ago it looked far from ready.
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I hope The Great Gropo visits every room.
And is found dead in each one of them.
(I'll get me sou'wester and oilskin jacket, and walk the plank meself....)
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What a great idea for a new edition of Clue!
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Gramps49
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My understanding is that the visit will not officially be a "state" visit.
The Queen has been known to break with tradition when she friends it expedient.
Having over 2 million of her subjects signing a petition not to receive Trump in a state visit is expedient, in my book.
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
I hope The Great Gropo visits every room.
And is found dead in each one of them.
(I'll get me sou'wester and oilskin jacket, and walk the plank meself....)
IJ
Now that would be a mystery that would require the combined talents of Miss Marple, M.Hercule Poirot at the very least to solve......
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Bishops Finger
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Not to mention Lord Peter Wimsey, Lady Harriet Wimsey, and the ubiquitous Bunter....
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......and I think The Saint, Remington Steel and Columbo.......after all we would need to think international...... ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
.....and I haven't even had a drop of wine yet. Honest!
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Nero Wolfe would sort it all out and wouldn't even have to leave his house to do so.
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Originally posted by Amanda B. Reckondwythe:
Nero Wolfe would sort it all out and wouldn't even have to leave his house to do so.
Archie Goodwin, on the other hand, would have a grand time ordering glasses of milk in pubs.
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With Lily Rowan at his elbow. Ah, a fellow Wolfie!
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Gramps49
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Our Newseek is reporting that Ms May has said Trump will be getting his state visit, but no date has been given.
I hope it will rain on his parade, rain cabbage, eggs and tomatoes and other rotten vegetables or fruits.
I hope he will see many backsides and many moons from those backsides.
May should not be able to dictate what HM does if he comes.
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Originally posted by Gramps49:
I hope it will rain on his parade, rain cabbage, eggs and tomatoes and other rotten vegetables or fruits.
"Let the sky rain potatoes; let it thunder to the tune of ‘Green Sleeves;’ hail kissing-comfits and snow eringoes; let there come a tempest of provocation..."
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(But that play was written during the time of the previous Queen Elizabeth.)
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Golden Key
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Bizarre thought:
T doesn't drink, due to a brother's death from alcoholism. Does he attend events where there's drinking? If it's a party at one of his properties, he could easily make it a dry event.
I'm guessing there will be alcohol at the wedding reception?
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Bishops Finger
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Probably there will be (champers, at the very least), but I really can't see the Evil Orange One being invited anyway.
Perhaps they should invite just the poor, bewitched, Melancholia, to give the unfortunate Ensorcelled One a day away from the Goblin's clutches.
O, the priceless Tweets that would ensue!
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I find it very difficult indeed to imagine people signing up for the club at Mar-A-Lago (the initiation fee is $200,000! And then there's the yearly dues after that!) if it's a dry facility. He must allow others (other rich people, anyway) to drink even if he himself is not imbibing.
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Originally posted by Brenda Clough:
I find it very difficult indeed to imagine people signing up for the club at Mar-A-Lago (the initiation fee is $200,000! And then there's the yearly dues after that!) if it's a dry facility. He must allow others (other rich people, anyway) to drink even if he himself is not imbibing.
It does not surprise me; even at my lowly level in society I know of people paying $25,000 a year to belong to a country club, on top of a $75,000 admission fee. They do so for the dubious privilege of only meeting people like themselves, which they deem to be very valuable indeed.
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Bishops Finger
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The resultant in-breeding possibly explains the low intellectual levels of people like the King Of Mar-a-Lago....
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Golden Key
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(In case you're not kidding.)
His mom was from Scotland, and his paternal grandfather came from Germany. So inbreeding is unlikely.
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(In case you're not kidding.)
His mom was from Scotland, and his paternal grandfather came from Germany. So inbreeding is unlikely.
How do you get Scotland out of Norfolk? I assume you are speaking of Lady Diana Spencer who was an offshoot of the junior branch of the Marlborough Dukedom?
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Golden Key
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No, T's family, in response to BF's post just above mine.
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To which I might add that I said like the King of Maralago...
I suspect the latter's intellectual difficulties may be due to other causes.
Either way, it was an unkind comment on my part.
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It would seem so, as long as we p**s him off royally, a bit in advance....
Perhaps by telling him that The Awful Obamas have bought Buck House as a holiday home? He might believe it.
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Have a look at Twitter #ICancelledMyTripToLondon
It’s hilarious!
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Eirenist
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Well done, Mr Trump. You have now made it impossible for the Queen, many of whose subjects originate in countries you would no doubt describe as 'shit-holes', to receive you. She is also Head of a Commonwealth that includes several of those countries.
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Rumor here is that the terror of demonstrations, the prospect of a sea of pussyhats in Trafalgar Square, has kept him away. I heartily congratulate you, keep up the good work! You do not want him in your country -- God knows we don't.
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Well done, Mr Trump. You have now made it impossible for the Queen, many of whose subjects originate in countries you would no doubt describe as 'shit-holes', to receive you. She is also Head of a Commonwealth that includes several of those countries.
And is Queen of many of those countries, just as much as of the UK.
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Indeed, though I'm not sure how The Arbiter Of Sh**holes cannot still be received by Her Majesty, however distasteful such a meeting might be to her.
Sadly, he is still Head of State of a country with which we have (or should I say had) a Special Relationship, so I guess an official state visit could still take place .
Mind you, President Cowardy-Cowardy Custard would probably cry off, in case some Nasty Brown People showed up, and insulted him....
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Cry off is what he has done, apparently. Never been more jealous of y'all
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Yes, but AIUI he's simply refusing to come across the pond to open the new Embassy - the proposed Official State Visit is a special treat for us (and HM) to look forward to later.
Not.
Anyway, perhaps he'll soon disappear up his own sh**hole, and spare us all some grief. Wasn't he due for a medical examination round about now?
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Indeed, though I'm not sure how The Arbiter Of Sh**holes cannot still be received by Her Majesty, however distasteful such a meeting might be to her.
She may be advised by her government of the UK to receive him , but her governments of a long list of countries not to, and further advised that she should tell him of the limited basis of his reception. She would no doubt do as she has for the last 66 years and follow the advice of her government.
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
Yes, but AIUI he's simply refusing to come across the pond to open the new Embassy - the proposed Official State Visit is a special treat for us (and HM) to look forward to later.
Not.
Anyway, perhaps he'll soon disappear up his own sh**hole, and spare us all some grief. Wasn't he due for a medical examination round about now?
Brief mention on the TV evening news. Apparently he's in "excellent health" despite a steady diet of tacos, McD's, diet Coke and chocolate cake.
Must be a Republican physician.
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Or a very flawed test regimen.
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No doubt H.M. will do her duty as always, trying not to hold her nose, but the atmosphere at the State Banquet will probably be distinctly frosty.
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And of course it's all fake news anyway.
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Oh yes - made up by the Chinese, or the Haitians, or the Mexicans, or every Muslim in the world, especially Obama.....
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Please God, let the Father of Sh**holes never set foot on our Fair Land. Having BoJo The Clown and his friends here is bad enough.
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Originally posted by Bishops Finger:
Indeed, though I'm not sure how The Arbiter Of Sh**holes cannot still be received by Her Majesty, however distasteful such a meeting might be to her.
She may be advised by her government of the UK to receive him , but her governments of a long list of countries not to, and further advised that she should tell him of the limited basis of his reception. She would no doubt do as she has for the last 66 years and follow the advice of her government.
As this is about a state visit (or not) to the UK, the opinions of HM's other governments are of course not a factor.
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I think the government must be keenly aware that being expected to take part in a ceremonial carriage drive through London from Winfield House to Buckingham Palace through streets lined with demonstrators is not something any reasonable person would wish to impose on our 91 year-old monarch and her 96 year-old consort.
As for Mr Trump himself: it has been remarked on that at no stage of his life has DJT made any significant and lasting friendships: sure, there are people who have been employees for a long time but same-level friendship seems to have been beyond him all his life. That would go so way towards explaining his crassness, insensitivity, touchiness, inability to cope with criticism and narcissism.
Put another way, what all the tweets and foul-mouthed ranting are really saying is "Why doesn't anybody like me?". Sad in a small child, profoundly disturbing in a man in his 70s who happens to be POTUS.
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I know that John Holding, but it's a good thought.
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Thing about his latest physical is he refused to submit to a mental health eval or neurological exam. He refused to submit to a cognitive function test which people over 65 usually have on an annual basis.
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He refused to submit to a cognitive function test which people over 65 usually have on an annual basis.
I'll be 73 in two weeks and have never had a cognitive function test -- didn't even know they exist.
Fortunately I'm cognitive and still functioning -- at least for now. ![[Yipee]](graemlins/spin.gif)
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Ah, Miss Amanda - they may be testing you without you knowing it......
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Pigwidgeon
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I recently had my first post-Medicare annual physical. While she was doing the physical exams and tests, she asked me a few memory-related questions and had me perform some really, really simple tasks (e.g., folding a sheet of paper in half). She said I had a score of 100%!
Several friends have mentioned to me that this is part of the routine for a Medicare physical.
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The tests are really very simple as pointed out above. The routine my Dr gives me is to ask me to remember some words. We then discuss something else and then he asks me what were the words he asked me to remember.
Typical cognitive tests here.
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Yes, I've had similar tests - mostly when I was in hospital in 2016, following brain surgery, and had a series of epileptic seizures.
IIRC, this was just about the time when the election of Sadiq Khan as Mayor of London was in the news, so the fact that I answered correctly the question 'Who is the Mayor of London?' reassured everyone that I was OK....
I wonder what The Lord Of Lies' answer would be if they asked him who the POTUS was...?
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