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Uncle Pete

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I just heard today of yet ANOTHER friend who has had recurrence of cancer. She is refusing any more treatment. I can **** in AS, and I will, but here I want to scream at the injustice.

And to express myself [Mad]


[Cancer SUCKS]

[ 13. February 2013, 00:12: Message buggered about with by: comet ]

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Tortuf
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Pete,

I have seen the Big C take the lives of people who deserve to live wonderful, happy lives.

There is nothing good about a disease that turns the human body against itself and causes only pain and sorrow.

And, there is nothing that allows us to see the resilience and bravery that a human soul can have like people coping with cancer. God bless their souls.

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Yea and amen to what both of you said; I lost a colleague to cancer a couple of weeks ago and my brother-in-law nearly four years ago (both in their fifties).

Either of them could have been nominated for Nicest Man On The Planet - why doesn't cancer take the scum-bags instead of the nice people?

PS I know this is Hell, but [Votive] for your friend, Pete.

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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
I just heard today of yet ANOTHER friend who has had recurrence of cancer. She is refusing any more treatment. I can pray in AS, and I will, but here I want to scream at the injustice.

And to express myself [Mad]

I'm sorry to hear this PeteC. The injustice is hard to bear.
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My mother lost not one but two of her friends to cancer this week. I hate this disease with a passion.

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Support. [Votive] [Votive]

Support. [Mad] [Mad]

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My sympathies. I've not only seen cancer's effect upon people, but I've had it. 18 years ago I lost my mother to tobacco-induced lung cancer. Not only did that make me despise the disease, but also the scum that market a product that causes it, knowing how highly addictive that product is.

Then 6 years ago I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. I had surgery, and have been cancer free since then. Nevertheless I know that it very well may recur, in which case the goal becomes not curing the disease but slowing its progression. Several times I have had dreams that cancer is actually a being following me. It's scary stuff.

I know this isn't much, but I suggest getting involved, whatever way you can, in the battle against cancer. I just don't mean sending a check to some charity, but doing something like volunteering at an oncology hospital, or urging local politicos to support anti-smoking legislation. Doing so won't save your loved one, but will help you deal with that sense of powerlessness that many of us who have faced the disease have faced.

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[Votive] Pete, and all affected. I've lost three friends to melanoma in recent years. It's supposed to be rare, for fuck's sake.

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Emendator Liturgia
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Squirrel, thanks for the honesty of your posting. But, as you have shown, the Big C can be beaten, provided you get it early and have good medical service.

I've only just been diagnosed with prostate cancer - fortunately they have diagnosed it very early and I have one of the best urologists around in Australia on my team. Next Tuesday I'm being assessed for brachytherapy which has a lot better results with a lot less complications than surgery or external radiation therapy.

I appreciate all the support I receive, both online and around me.

As for melanoma - often the sins of our youth catching up on us way past the time when we were youths - in places like Australia, with all ouu long hours and months of sunlight and all of our anglo-celtic skins, it is a big killer. Again, too many people don't have issues attended too early enough. Maybe your area needs a an education problem of the risks and prevention? SLIP-SLOP-SLAP! Slip on clothering and hats, slap on sun cream (UV 30+), and sit under shade. Its almost a mantra here.

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Cancer is a jerk. For something that starts as such a little thing, it is such a massive massive evil and deserves to go hang [Frown]
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Just today, I was told that a beloved member of our congregation has less than a month to live. He is mentally slow, and is a sweet and caring soul. He had watched is dad die of cancer, and has been terrified of having the same thing happen to him. [Votive]

His family have opted not to tell him how bad it is. [Waterworks]

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My bestest friend died last Thursday from a massive heart attack probably caused by the cancer treatment - at one stage he had both prostate and bowel cancer. He suffered so much [Waterworks]
I've decided if I get cancer I won't bother with treatment.

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Welcome to the ship, Serviette. And sorry to hear of your loss. [Votive]

All I can say is that, although my brother died of Cancer, the fact that he did go through several lots of treatment first enabled him to see his children at least partly grow up, more than if he'd given in at the first sign. So there can be good reasons for going through treatment, even if it doesn't work for everyone.

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Evangeline
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quote:
Originally posted by Emendator Liturgia:
Squirrel, thanks for the honesty of your posting. But, as you have shown, the Big C can be beaten, provided you get it early and have good medical service.

I've only just been diagnosed with prostate cancer - fortunately they have diagnosed it very early and I have one of the best urologists around in Australia on my team. Next Tuesday I'm being assessed for brachytherapy which has a lot better results with a lot less complications than surgery or external radiation therapy.

I appreciate all the support I receive, both online and around me.

As for melanoma - often the sins of our youth catching up on us way past the time when we were youths - in places like Australia, with all ouu long hours and months of sunlight and all of our anglo-celtic skins, it is a big killer. Again, too many people don't have issues attended too early enough. Maybe your area needs a an education problem of the risks and prevention? SLIP-SLOP-SLAP! Slip on clothering and hats, slap on sun cream (UV 30+), and sit under shade. Its almost a mantra here.

All good advice EL BUT not all that helpful for people battling the disease now, plus early detection isn't always possible and neither is prevention. IMO sometimes this prevention and detection message is overplayed to the detriment of sufferers-it's as though you only die of cancer if you didn't act to prevent it or quickly enough to stop it. THat makes me mad because it's not true. [Mad]
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comet

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Since when were we trying to be helpful?

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Uncle Pete

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If I had wanted help, I would have gone to All Saints. This is a RANT, cupcakes.

Rant away. Be helpful in that other place.

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Amazing Grace

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Fuck you, cancer.

Fuck you on Vanessa's behalf. She is gone and we will miss her.

Fuck you on Corrie's behalf. We are hoping that we can keep her. But you still suck.

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Rossweisse

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Cancer sucks, bigtime.

Almost exactly two years after getting my first diagnosis of breast cancer - and going through months of chemo and surgery and radiation - I have my second diagnosis of breast cancer.

This is a different kind, and early stages, but dammit! I'm still on painful, tiring maintenance drugs from the first one! (And right before the holidays... again.)

Pete C, I'm with you on this one.

Ross

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comet

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(great to see you, Ross!)

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Kelly Alves

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FUCK. [Waterworks] [Mad]

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Rossweisse

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(Good to see you, too, Comet!)

Yeah, Kelly, I had the same thought.

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Amazing Grace

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ROSS! [Waterworks] [Mad]

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Gill H

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Oh , Ross. Been thinking of you recently.

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Cancer, you bastard. Leave my friends alone.

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Today's FUCK CANCER is brought to you by the letters OHP (Oregon Health Plan), who finally got off their asses and stopped demanding more and more financial information from my friend who was all, "I have no finances, I told you that last week, and the week before, and the week before--" and have approved her for 100% coverage of all medical bills ONE DAY before she begins chemo. And by the letter A, who's no longer in remission and gets to start the fun all over again.

Again I say, FUCK CANCER.

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When I first looked at this thread, I fondly imagined I wouldn't be posting on it. But that was more than a week ago. On Tuesday, a dear lady in our congregation was diagnosed with this evil disease....and yesterday, the short straw fell to my own mum. I felt great sympathy for you guys posting on here, but I could have done without experiencing the empathy.
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QLib

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My dear friend S has just had a double mastectomy and is waiting to hear the verdict on type, virulence, and ongoing treatment.

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Jemima the 9th
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Cancer sucks. Too tired to be angry though, even in Hell. More weary resignation, and overwhelming tiredness.

Tell you what though, a very large FUCK YOU indeed to the whole "pink culture - we're fighting, we're doing something, here wear a pink ribbon, buy a We're fighting breast cancer car sticker, drink rose wine once a year and pretend you're doing something important to stop people getting breast cancer, we must keep fighting and we must keep positive" people.

FUCK YOU.
My mother's dying because she hasn't fought hard enough, is she? She's in pain because she didn't wear a ribbon, never bought into that crap, never thought positively enough? It's not a fucking battle. If there's a war going on, it's between cancer & medicine, with the people who've got cancer somewhere in the middle. Don't you DARE make her somehow complicit in this.

Fuck you and the pink sparkly horse you rode in on.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jemima the 9th:
we must keep fighting and we must keep positive

I found that line about staying positive and fighting particularly invidious when I saw a friend believe it hook, line and sinker. To challenge it would be to become their enemy, but I watched them exchange their peace and sanity at the end for a bit of false hope that evaporated to leave guilt and confusion. I still don't know what I should have said or done.

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Left at the Altar

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The whole "keep positive" thing is totally unhelpful.

It's a sideline to the Blame the Victim thing. "Oh, s/he died? Not positive enough". It's bad enough to have cancer, without feeling pressure to overcome it.

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I agree absolutely - it makes the "fighter" into a saint if they "win", or a moral reprobate if they "lose". That's just wrong. And we don't use this rhetoric about other diseases (or, indeed, conditions where it may be more applicable).

Havng said that, I buried someone who died at the age of 37 after several bouts of cancer since the age of 8, the treatment of which had included the loss of her legs. Apparently she was particularly susceptible to cancer due to a genetic defect, and knew it woud get her in the end.

She most certainly didn't "fight" it - nor did she let it "define" her life, which she could so easily have done. She was a true inspiration.

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I lost my Dad and my Mother-in-law to cancer. My Dad was a stoical sort, and he took it as one of those things, watched the cricket through most of his last summer, was grateful for pain relief and what turned out to be a fairly peaceful death. My mother-in-law fought it, as she fought anything else she regarded as wrong and unjust. She used all the pain relief going but she carried on fighting and cancer killed her too. Both died about six months after diagnosis.

You may as well "fight" drugs or "fight" poverty. You can do something about it, you can mitigate its worst effects, but anyone who suggests we should "fight" cancer doesn't know enough about cancer, fighting or people.

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My kids' aunt was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer about a year and a half ago. She had surgery and chemo, and was cancer-free. But it's back now. Which I knew to expect, at some point. But, damn, it's hard when it happens.

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Our oldest son's former kindergarten teacher has breast cancer. A good friend of mine had a brain operation to remove a spot of cnacer, after having had metastatic breast cancer that went to her liver.

Fuck Cancer.

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Lucia

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Crap... Just had an email from a friend confirming what was suspected, that she has breast cancer. She's only 40 and with two children, same ages as mine. [Frown] [Votive]

[ 19. December 2012, 08:31: Message edited by: Lucia ]

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In the last five years four of my closest relatives (both parents, an aunt and an uncle) have had different types of cancer. Two have died, one is in remission, and my mother is currently having chemotherapy. Clearly that's not an unusual story. As for fighting, it's not a metaphor I find helpful. I prefer to think of raging against the dying of the light.

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ThunderBunk

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Cancer seems to be about to claim my mum's best friend. Fuck it. A lovely woman who will be missed by many.

Fuck it a thousandfold. All over again.

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Cancer sucks. It kills good people who help other people. It is indiscriminate. It is an asshole.
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Chorister

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Sometimes it even attacks the asshole. Nasty. Especially when it then goes on to attack all the other parts of the digestive system, bit by bit.

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quote:
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Sometimes it even attacks the asshole. Nasty. Especially when it then goes on to attack all the other parts of the digestive system, bit by bit.

Yes, I know, I KNOW.

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Damn. I came to catch up; now I'm crying again.

I have beaten my second bout of breast cancer. (There won't be a third; I had a double mastectomy.) My chest looks like northern France immediately after World War I. This cancer was a 10 cm tumor, but it was contained, and it is history. No chemo, no radiation this time.

But I'm still fighting the first, metastasized cancer. My oncologist: "When - if - it comes back, it will be in the liver or the lungs, the bones or the brain."

The odds are in cancer's favor, 60% against a 40% chance of my being alive in three years and eight months. I asked him if I should be saving for a long retirement, or if I should take the trips I've been putting off since I had children. He said, "If there's a trip you really want to take, I would take it now."

Fuck you, cancer.

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Dear (((((Ross)))) [Votive] [Votive] [Votive]

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Seconded [Votive] and a hug from me too.
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Uncle Pete

Loyaute me lie
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Prayers for a fighter from a cancer survivor. God be with you.

[Votive]

And yeah, cancer sucks.

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Even more so than I was before

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jbohn
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[Votive]

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We are punished by our sins, not for them.
--Elbert Hubbard

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Heavenly Anarchist
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[Votive]

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'I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by.' Douglas Adams
Dog Activity Monitor
My shop

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Trisagion
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Dear Ross [Votive] [Votive] [Votive]

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ceterum autem censeo tabula delenda esse

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ThunderBunk

Stone cold idiot
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And K, a friend of a friend, appears to be succumbing to the return of a brain tumour in his earlyish 40s.

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Currently mostly furious, and occasionally foolish. Normal service may resume eventually. Or it may not. And remember children, "feiern ist wichtig".

Foolish, potentially deranged witterings

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duchess

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Ross. [Votive] praying.

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♬♭ We're setting sail to the place on the map from which nobody has ever returned ♫♪♮
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Kelly Alves

Bunny with an axe
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[Disappointed] God damn it.

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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.

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