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NJA
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Are you addicted and does it matter?
Regardless of recession, expensive coffee shops continue to appear and do well.

Would having to go without make you unhappy?
If you are a self-confessed addict, what would happen if you went without for a day?

According to the Daily Mail , a mug of tea is 75mg, 500-600mp/day can lead to the same effects as withdrawal.

Insomnia
Nervousness
Restlessness
Irritability
Stomach upset
Fast heartbeat
Muscle tremors

Wiki lists various positive effects so maybe non-drinkers should be encouraged more?

Personally I find the smell makes me want to drink some, even telling myself "I need a coffee", but I find that if I just walk away so does the perceived need. But I enjoy both coffee & tea, except in really hot weather, so in moderation it's a blessing from God, not a curse.
It stimultates / refreshes and seems to make people feel good and promote interaction and business, as it has always done:

...in the major cities of England, Austria, France, Germany and Holland, coffee houses were quickly becoming centers of social activity and communication. In England 'penny universities' sprang up, so called because for the price of a penny one could purchase a cup of coffee and engage in stimulating conversation. By the mid-17th century, there were over 300 coffee houses in London, many of which attracted patrons with common interests, such as merchants, shippers, brokers and artists. Many businesses grew out of these specialized coffee houses. Lloyd's of London, for example, came into existence at the Edward Lloyd's Coffee House.

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I don't need a coffee.

I need another coffee.

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I came down this morning to the aroma of ground coffee from the filter machine. Very tempting, but I can't drink it now, gives me heart palpitations. [Frown] Nearest I can manage is decaff from a jar .. Not the same thing at all.

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I love coffee. I don't need it - I'm better without it, as the caffeine affects me badly, so I have no more than five cups of coffee per week. I love going to coffee shops though - I can see how they are doing well in the recession, because they are somewhere where you can sit on comfy sofas for hours and use free WiFi, just for the price of a cup of coffee (albeit overpriced!). You have the sense of going out and treating yourself, rather than staying home. Way cheaper than the cinema, or going out for a meal.
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I drink redbush tea - no caffeine, and I love it.

BUT I have one lovely frothy coffee every day at 10:30 (now!) with a read of the Ship.

I would miss that one!

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I always put coffee with milk and sweetness too. I got told at the hospital to drink at least one a day to help me! Wow! I have one always at lunchtime.

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I love my morning coffee, it has to be 'proper' coffee, in buckets. And yes I am addicted, if I don't get it I have a withdrawal migraine.

Coffee................

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As NJA mentions "Many businesses grew out of these specialized coffee houses. Lloyd's of London, for example, came into existence at the Edward Lloyd's Coffee House."

I don't think it is a coincidence that coffee drinking became popular at a time of growth in business and trade. Lloyd's and other trading centres can appear staffed by people on a caffeine high and I suspect this was more so before computer-guided trading.

Now, where's my mug .....

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Alan Cresswell

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quote:
Now, where's my mug ..... [/QB]
Here!

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It's morning here, and I'm currently going through the "I need coffee to be able to make coffee" paradox.

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I have a coffee maker that makes one cup at a time. First thing in the morning I have coffee with chicory.

Around ten, I have flavored coffee with real whipped cream. This is one of my favorite forms of self-indulgence.

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I have coffee three time a week at the mall, as a reward for going to my exercise program. And then, two cups every other week when my housekeeper is here (She does all the heavy, miserable cleaning I can't cope with, not the everyday stuff).

Otherwise I drink tea. Black, green, white pekoe, darjeeling, ginger pekoe, chai, tisanes, anyone?

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quote:
Originally posted by PeteC:
Otherwise I drink tea. Black, green, white pekoe, darjeeling, ginger pekoe, chai, tisanes, anyone?

I like coffee, but I love tea. Even herbals, sorry Professor Elemental..

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Tea addict here, though I do drink coffee on mornings when some client crisis has deprived me of sleep the night before. Home brew, drunk black, to get me through the usual 6 a.m. chaos of re-scheduling everything because a staffer's out sick.

Otherwise, I drink strong tea, with lemon and sugar. I drink it all morning, have another tall mug at 4 p.m., and one after supper (sometimes before bed, too), but the latter ones are with milk.

I don't think it's withdrawal, but I get sad & cranky without my tea. The 4 p.m. one especially is my comfort fix.

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I'm not addicted to caffeine. It's just physically painfully to go without coffee in the morning.

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Yes, I am a caffeine addict. I've had to give up coffee because of caffeine sensitivity but I love going out for a decaff* coffee and cake at the weekends (decaff mocha and I'm happy).

I'm also semi-addicted to dark chocolate. I can kick the habit for a few days or even a couple of weeks, but not permanently.

* It never is 100% decaff but it's at a level I can handle.

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I usually arrive at work 15 to 20 minutes before the shift starts, the reason is that gives me time for a cappuccino. It is only after that that I can function well enough to do the job.

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It took me some time to realise that the terrible headaches I used to get while I was away at re-enacting shows were caused by drinking water all weekend rather than coffee. I tried to give it up, and did for a while, but now I just make sure that I go off and have a non-Medieval coffee once a day over the weekend.

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Coffee with chicory, mmmmmmmmmmmmm. I'm not addicted, but a cup in the morning helps me face the pain of reading certain authors.

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Don't like the taste, don't like the pretentiousness that goes with it, and positively hate the idea of becoming addicted.

Smells nice though.

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My working day always seemed to go amiss if I didn't have a cup of coffee when I got to the office.
A friend of ours in college used to drink filter coffee. He'd start off with one scoop in the filter, and gradually work up to about 6 scoops to make one mug of coffee. He'd then go cold turkey before starting the cycle again. [Eek!]

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I realised I was addicted when I joined my husband on a trip he'd organised for students on his new religious movements course. I'd had my usual three or four mugs of coffee by the time we set out after lunch to drive to Bhaktivedanta Manor, just north of London, to stay overnight with the Hare Krishnas. They generously provided us with breakfast in the morning, and that was fine, except I rather missed my coffee (they don't drink tea or coffee). Ah well. Then we set off round the M25 for the London Mormon Temple. I was starting to feel slightly headachy, and some of the students complained of headaches too.

We got to the Temple Visitors' Centre, to be welcomed warmly, - with Barleycup and herb tea, suitably caffeine-free Mormon drinks. By this time I was feeling really ill, sat there through the videos about the joys of Mormonism they showed us with my eyes closed, and finally had to head for the ladies' loo where I threw up (it was right next to the auditorium so everyone could hear me [Eek!] ). I huddled in the back of the minibus for the last stage of the journey, to visit the Scientology HQ at East Grinstead.

Whatever you think of Scientologists, there is at least one thing they're very good at, and that's brewing strong coffee. A kind Scientologist took me to somewhere I could lie down and made me coffee - several cups, in fact, until I felt human again. The rest of the party got coffee, too, before we set off home, so we all recovered. But my husband never tried taking students on a similar trip again...

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Mrs Sioni tried to ditch coffee and caffeine years ago when she was diagnosed with arthritis. We checked the do's and don'ts and caffeine was firmly in the latter so she dropped coffee, cola and all similar drinks. It was OK for about 12 hours, then the nausea, headaches and tetchiness set it and it was hell for another two days until she decided that everyone had suffered enough. I suppose that makes it a dependency rather than an addiction.

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Tea is my main beverage in the mornings, but I have become very fond of having an iced coffee afterwards.

I went to D Donuts for a while, but that was expensive. Then I found that Mickey D's iced coffee was pretty good, and only a dollar!

My joy was complete when I found iced coffee in cartons at my local grocery! [Yipee] It's not the best, but I doctor it a little with sweet cream, and really enjoy my little treat which is also less expensive!

Should I buy one of those Keurig things, or not?

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I've been drinking daily coffee since I was probably 14 or so. my mother is a coffee snob. Her family were all coffee snobs. I became a coffee snob. My daughter is a coffee snob and now works at a professional roastery as their head barista. We're basically a pretty hardcore lot.

And yet - at times when I'm broke and out of coffee, I get bitchy about it but I've never gotten the headache or nausea other people do. which surprises the hell out of me because I'm a very habitual drinker and I certainly do crave the stuff, I've just never had withdrawl. and I'd rather go without than buy cheap robusta.

I tend to always purchase from small local roasteries; none of the big national brands really cut it by the time I can get them, I assume it's a freshness issue. If I have to choose a national brand it would probably be Peet's from San Francisco. But generally, I'll find the local roastery and hunt down their best through trial and error. The best coffee in my somewhat limited experience is Alaskan (with the exception of Lava Java in Maui. Hawaiians seem to "get it", too. The peabody beans in HI are outstanding.) While I've not been all over the world by any modern standards, I can say that I've not found coffee that matches AK coffee in Seattle or Paris, at least.

At home: piping hot from a press, black. if I'm reheating a cold cup I'll add heavy cream or coconut oil. out and about: if the beans are good, espresso or americano (with about half the water they usually add) sometimes with a glop of heavy cream or a latte if I need the calories. no sugar or syrups. ruins everything!

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When I was getting cancer treatment I didn't touch coffee for a month and didn't miss it. Then one day I felt like it again, and was soon back to six or more mugs a day when I'm working at home. If I'm away from home the lack of coffee doesn't bother me, mostly because I prefer my own brew and never drink it in the car. If I can't get to sleep at night, or wake up in the night, I'll often read for half an hour, drink a mug of coffee, and then go back to sleep soundly. No - I'm not addicted...

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I have a mocha when I arrive at work, but apart from that, I don't really like coffee. For the rest of the day, I drink tea. The smell of coffee makes me feel sick - the last time I went to New York, I thought I was pregnant, but it was just the smell of coffee that seemed to be everywhere first thing in the morning.

Earlier this year, I went to an Amy Grant concert in London and was caught in roadworks on the way back. By the time I got on the motorway, it was the wee small hours of the morning and I was worried about falling asleep at the wheel, so I stopped at the services and bought a triple shot cappucino. It kept me wide awake all the way home - and for the rest of the night, when I was desperately trying to sleep! I finally felt the caffeine leave my body at 10:30 the next morning. That was a fun day at work!

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quote:
Originally posted by jedijudy:


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Should I buy one of those Keurig things, or not?

The church office where I work part-time has recently acquired a Keurig 'thing.'
Plusses: It's convenient and very easy to operate.
There seems to be quite a variety of coffee (and tea) blends available for it.
Minusses: I think (though I don't know for certain) that the coffee pod thingys are rather expensive.
My biggest complaint however is that the coffee doesn't taste 'brewed.' The effect is more of brown hot water than real coffee.

I still keep using it, though.

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I alternate between a drip coffee maker and a French press. My wife has one of those Keurig jobbers. I hardly ever use the Keurig machine. Neither, come to think of it, does my wife.

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As I mentioned above, I have an electric drip coffee maker that makes one cup.

I like it because I can blend whatever kind of coffee I want. AIUI with a Keurig you have to buy pre-measured coffee, and the choice is much narrower than if you were using loose coffee.

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Has anyone got one of these Aerobie Aeropress thingies? Is it as good as the reviews on Amazon seem to suggest?

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Is a French press the same as a cafetiere? Because that is always my preference - low tech, most ground coffee works with it and it brews properly. My housemates have a filter coffee machine that I am welcome to use (these are not as common in the UK as in the US) but I rather prefer using a cafetiere - not least because you can get single person ones.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jade Constable:
Is a French press the same as a cafetiere?

So I hear.

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During the day I don't mind good instant, although at home I'll use a cafetiere.

But first thing in the morning its the old-fashioned two part percolator on the hob with Greek coffee - I suppose the first cup is the equivalent of a quadruple espresso?

The plus side of the cafetiere and percolator is that the grounds go onto azaleas which love them.

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Coffee has taken the place of tobacco in Britain.

Five or ten years ago smoking was seen as normal and practised by a broad cross-section of society, whereas drinking coffee in the street looked silly, verging on bad manners. Now the opposite is true.

As a non coffee/tea drinker (I genuinely can't see the point of it) I feel increasingly left out of social interaction when it seems to revolve around coffee. It seems that church and secular business meetings increasingly revolve around a coffee fix for the majority. Actually I don't mind if people choose to drink coffee, but I do object to the declining availability at meetings of other drink options such as good drinking water or orange juice/squash, compared to a few years ago.

On a positive note, at least the 1960s/70s pursuit of time-wasting coffee mornings shows no sign of being resurrected.

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Another percolator user here.

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Ah I'm sorry. I just found out that what I'm using isn't called a percolator but a moka pot.

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Until I moved to Canada I really only drank coffee after meals in restaurants (and not always then). However, since I moved here, I've discovered Timmy's™ and as there's a branch at w*rk, I usually buy myself a cup when I get in.

I don't think I can be properly addicted though: I've just realised that I haven't had any coffee at all today and I don't feel any ill-effects. When we go back to the UK on holiday I might not have any for nearly three weeks, and although we might make a bee-line for Timmy's as soon as we're through Canadian customs, it's more out of habit than actual necessity.

At home we both drink Earl Grey tea; we've got a couple of cafetières but only use them when we have visitors.

eta: Apparently during the war, Norwegians would say, "when the war is over a ship will come bearing coffee, and then a ship will come bearing the King, and then another ship will come bearing coffee." Mind you, Norwegian coffee is very good. [Smile]

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Scandinavians also drink a staggering amount of it.

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Coffee is one of the proofs of the existence of a benign deity. [Big Grin]

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I brew my coffee, when I drink it -- not that often -- either in a ceramic drip cone with filter or my all-stainless-steel cafetiere / French press. Wouldn't have a Keurig as a gift. I have a phobia about plastics in combo with hot water. I swear I can taste something toxic afterward.

And with tea, I brew it from loose leaves in a scalded china pot. No bags.

One thing I miss, though. Years ago, I had a little "tea egg," which finally cracked and broke. A friend gave me a replacement, but the inside top's too small, and once the tea's brewed you can't pry the sodden leaves out short of 20 minutes' hard work.

Do UK shipmates know where I can get a proper tea egg with a proper opening? I only ask because I hear you Brits drink lots of tea . . .

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Who needs "proper" when there are so many fun options.

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quote:
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Coffee has taken the place of tobacco in Britain.

Indeed, though many smokers now seem to have a caffeine addiction too. I'm waiting for someone to bring out some kind of grip/holster to hold the cup while people use their device on their smoking break. Evolution doesn't seem to be doing it.


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On a positive note, at least the 1960s/70s pursuit of time-wasting coffee mornings shows no sign of being resurrected.

Yes, society has changed. Though even then I remember them being combined with "bring and buy", a sort of d.i.y. jumble sale.
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I just watched this documentary (previous parts are of historical interest).
Has anyone looked into which of the coffee chains or suppliers give the best deal to the poor growers & their families?

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quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:

Do UK shipmates know where I can get a proper tea egg with a proper opening? I only ask because I hear you Brits drink lots of tea . . .

Is it this sort of thing ?
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quote:
Originally posted by OddJob:
On a positive note, at least the 1960s/70s pursuit of time-wasting coffee mornings shows no sign of being resurrected.

You're making a certain (and incorrect) assumption there. Something only has the potential for resurrection if ... [Smile]
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My wife goes on a annual Coffee Cruise. The decent coffee is so much cheaper over the Channel. There is a bigger price difference than a bottle of vino.

Now I need to go and put the coffee maker on.

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quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:

Do UK shipmates know where I can get a proper tea egg with a proper opening? I only ask because I hear you Brits drink lots of tea . . .

Is it this sort of thing ?
I had one of those once - still do somewhere, only mine was shaped like a little egg on a chain. I think it was sold as a "tea ball". The secret with those is to try if possible to use tea where the particles are larger then the perforation holes, otherwise you end up with a lot of it in the bottom of your cup. Don't fill it to the max, either, as the tea needs room to expand, and try not to touch the metal when you pull it out of the cup of hot water, as it'll be red hot. Otherwise, they're quite useful, and can be taken to the office for daily use.

I shall have to see if I can locate mine and give it another go.

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Porridge

This place sells various 'infusers' for tea, not sure about your 'egg'. But a crystal heart infuser ball sounds fun.

Are you in the US? Shipping might be expensive.

http://www.teapalace.co.uk/Infusers-for-Mugs-Cups-CFILTERS_FORCUPS/

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On a positive note, at least the 1960s/70s pursuit of time-wasting coffee mornings shows no sign of being resurrected.

My local library has regular coffee mornings. They're just not allowed to call it that any more - I think they have to call it something to do with reading, so they call it 'Reading Café'. But unofficially everyone calls it a coffee morning, and they chat about all sorts, not just about books.
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