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Pyx_e

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Someone mentioned TEA ......arrrrgghhhhhhhh Pyx_e runs round room with pants on head.

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Pyx_e [Overused]

Not sure about the pants on head but I'm with you on T**. Vile stuff.

I've always wondered what it does to your insides, bearing in mind it can take a scourer with elbow grease to clean the tannin from a stainless steel teapot - just wondering.... [Eek!]

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Anyone drinking tea because they think they can avoid caffeine thereby can forget it. Ditto chocolate. In fact chocolate is particularly sneaky as it doesn't have much caffeine in it, but it does have more theobromine, which has the same effect as caffeine.

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L'organist wrote:-
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I've always wondered what it does to your insides, bearing in mind it can take a scourer with elbow grease to clean the tannin from a stainless steel teapot - just wondering.... [Eek!]
I wouldn't worry about it. It's just a polyphenol of which there are many others in the diet, including that wonderful superfood red wine. They do bond to things outside the gut right enough, but there are plenty of things that will break that bond other than elbow grease. Google is your friend. Better (mechanical) dishwasher detergents dissolved in warm water will remove it before your very eyes.

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As I wrote above, the tannins have been seen as a protection against gastric infections.

I have tea mugs, but they are not the same as my coffee mugs. They are bone china. This affects the flavour, because it doesn't draw heat from the water so much.

One of the mugs is particularly prone to staining, which survives the dishwasher (or it did in the old Zanussi- I think the Bosch, same tablet, does not have the problem). I use a quarter of a Milton tablet to remove it.

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Here is a Tea Mug, it is set up specifically for tea and not for coffee.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariston:


Mugs are for coffee. Cups and bowls are for tea.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! [Eek!]

I *hate* having just a cup of tea (especially if it's good tea) - I'm just getting started on the stuff and then it's gone already.

This is especially the case at breakfast. My in-laws serve tea at breakfast in cups, not mugs, and I really can't stand it; the time I most need a decent sized mug of tea (especially if I haven't had one before breakfast) in order to function properly, and I just get a cup. [Waterworks]

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Are you not allowed to ask for a refill from the teapot?
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Originally posted by Francophile:
Are you not allowed to ask for a refill from the teapot?

It's normally all gone by that point (they only seem to make enough for one cup each, or father-in-law gets there first...) [Waterworks]

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I suppose they keep the teabag for a second or third brew.

I know someone who keeps the slice of lemon from her lemon tea for at least 3 tea breaks.

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quote:
Originally posted by David:
quote:
Originally posted by Sir Kevin:
When I go to my favourite Starbuck's

Thought this discussion was about coffee?

There, I said it.

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I get my favourite coffee from an old fashioned espresso pot that goes on the stove and makes tiny amounts of coffee that you almost have to slice. However, that's a rare treat as I work with people who wouldn't like it if I went through the day without using any punctuation. Most days I use a cafetiere.

Instant coffee is usually rightly sneered at, but I find it's not half bad if you make it with about twice the recommended amount, and begin by making a sort of paste with the coffee granules and a little cold water, before adding the almost-boiling water. It almost tastes like the real stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by Honest Ron Bacardi:
Anyone drinking tea because they think they can avoid caffeine thereby can forget it. Ditto chocolate. In fact chocolate is particularly sneaky as it doesn't have much caffeine in it, but it does have more theobromine, which has the same effect as caffeine.

Theobroma means Food of the Gods. There is good reason this is the genus of the cacao.
How dare you imply any negative to this ambrosia.
I considered demanding satisfaction, but consumed chocolate instead and will allow you to continue living.

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Every time i read this thread title i need to get the cafetiere out...
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Theobromine is the stuff which kills dogs, isn't it? Especially in dark chocolate.

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quote:
Originally posted by quetzalcoatl:
Theobromine is the stuff which kills dogs, isn't it? Especially in dark chocolate.

Will do in humans as well, given a high enough dose. Haven't found the upper limit of my tolerance yet.
Either I am immune or sleep prevents me from reaching it....

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There's theophylline, as well, in tea. Tea's good side
Didn't see any counter indications!
Does the decaffeinating take it out as well? I think I need another mug or two.

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lilBuddha wrote:
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Theobroma means Food of the Gods. There is good reason this is the genus of the cacao.
How dare you imply any negative to this ambrosia.
I considered demanding satisfaction, but consumed chocolate instead and will allow you to continue living.

Goodness! No disrespect to the splendid cacao plant or its products intended! In fact good quality chocolate is a favourite of mine. You eat less of it, savouring it much more as you go. So in the end it actually works out cheaper and healthier than the nasty cheap stuff, which often has unpleasant fatty additives.

Where was I? Oh yes, caffeine in chocolate. It's just that I have seen ill-informed screeds saying you won't get the wobbles if you have chocolate because it has much less caffeine. That's true, but there is more of the other alkaloid (theobromine) which can have the same effects.

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Yesterday and today, I was really, really tired, especially in the morning. After my morning fix of tea, the tiredness was still plaguing me.

The remedy had to be multiple mugs of coffee, almost unheard of in my normal life. A friend came over to my workplace so that we could do lunch. The primary criterion was 'which lunch joint has the best coffee?'

Two and a half mugs later (I know, I'm a piker compared to some of you), and I was no longer in danger of falling asleep on my feet.

Now, will I be able to sleep when I go to bed in a few minutes?

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quote:
Originally posted by L'organist:
Pyx_e [Overused]

Not sure about the pants on head but I'm with you on T**. Vile stuff.

I've always wondered what it does to your insides, bearing in mind it can take a scourer with elbow grease to clean the tannin from a stainless steel teapot - just wondering.... [Eek!]

Me too. I cannot stand the stuff - especially the smell. Although the taste is pretty bad also, but not quite as bad as the smell implies it will be.

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There is nothing on earth that tastes as good as coffee smells.

A few years ago I had to change my diet for health reasons, and coffee was the absolute worst thing to give up. Even chocolate (which I always loved) was easier to go without. I have switched to tea but once in a while have a cup of decaf, especially when everyone around me is drinking the good stuff. Sort of the coffee equivalent of methadone.

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I gave up coffee after getting pains in the chest and IBS. The weekend I gave it up I slept straight through almost all of that Saturday.

I used to love my filter coffee. Thankfully decaf these days is better than it was, so periodically I'll brew a mug of something with a rich, rough flavour and just enjoy it.

It has to be a morning thing though - can't stand the taste later in the day.

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I'm neither a coffee nor a tea drinker, for whatever reason. (Both have tended to unsettle my stomach a bit.) But I drink Diet Coke. All my life, caffeine never seemed to affect me that much, at least not as far as I could tell. I could stop drinking it cold-turkey with no withdrawal symptoms. I drank Diet Coke (or Pepsi, I'm not picky) with caffeine mostly because it was more readily available than caffeine free, and it seemed to taste a bit better. Also, from childhood, I was sorta trained by my grandmother that it helped with asthma (which she had as a kid; she tried to get me to drink coffee, but I couldn't stand it). And I noticed it helped distribute NSAIDs when I had aches and pains (e.g., after a car accident where I had whiplash) - they put it in Excedrin, after all. I guess it dilates the blood vessels which helps get the medicine through your system faster or something.

But a couple of years ago, I was having what I thought were anxiety symptoms, which was weird because I've never particularly struggled with anxiety (in the clinical sense). Turned out it was the caffeine! Even in small doses, I guess it added up. My shrink made me cut out caffeine, and I felt much better.

I can have some once in a while - e.g., dinner at a restaurant, or on mornings where I have to get up early, and I'm OK. But too much and I get short of breath. And pee a lot, which I notice now, since I don't drink much caffeine anymore!

I do miss the flavored Diet Coke - cherry, or lime - so when I do drink it with caffeine, I try to pick up one of those if available. Otherwise, I squirt some lime juice into my caffeine free, or pour in a little black cherry soda I can get at my local grocery store. Not quite the same, but still gives some variety.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pyx_e:
Someone mentioned TEA ......arrrrgghhhhhhhh Pyx_e runs round room with pants on head.

I really hope that either a) these are pants in the American sense of trousers; or b) you are wearing trousers AND your pants turban!

Alternatively, you could imitate Lucy in "It's The Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown". She's bobbing for apples at a party. Snoopy is in the apple tub, and is biting the other side of the apple. Lucy starts running in circles, screaming "Uggh, uggh, my lips have touched dog lips! Ugh! Ugh!"

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I'm not a great coffee drinker, but I do appreciate decent coffee from time to time.

Earlier this year, Mrs Spike & I spent a weekend in Venice, which is renowned for its fine coffee. The hotel where we were staying served very good coffee indeed.

Another British couple who were staying in the same place were in the habit of taking their own jar of Nescafe to breakfast. Sometimes when travelling abroad, I am embarrassed to be British. This was one of those occasions.

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Aaah, Spike, you bring back memories that still make me hot-and-cold with shame.

Specifically, a middle-aged foursome (2 couples) loudly discussing what essential foodstuffs they had packed for their caravanning holiday in France on the quayside as they waited to be ushered onto a ferry.

"We've got a case of baked beans, a case of spaghetti hoops, 4 types of instant soup and 14 packets of Angel Delight because you can't get decent food in France."

My French companion still blames their later hernia on the heroic efforts required to keep their laughter in check... [Killing me]

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L'Organist:

Inquiring mind needs to know: what is 'Angel Delight'? (Those travelling Brits sound both tragic and typical, I venture to say.)

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quote:
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Inquiring mind needs to know: what is 'Angel Delight'?

Goop. It came as powder in a packet, you mixed it with cold milk and it formed a kind of blancmange. Very 1970s. We used to refer to it as Angel Depression.
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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
quote:
Originally posted by georgiaboy:

Inquiring mind needs to know: what is 'Angel Delight'?

Goop. It came as powder in a packet, you mixed it with cold milk and it formed a kind of blancmange. Very 1970s. We used to refer to it as Angel Depression.
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We used to refer to it as 'Polycell'

Horrid stuff, but kids love it.

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Here you are ingredients and nutritional information So that you also get Boogie's post polycell.

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quote:
Originally posted by Firenze:
quote:
Originally posted by georgiaboy:

Inquiring mind needs to know: what is 'Angel Delight'?

Goop. It came as powder in a packet, you mixed it with cold milk and it formed a kind of blancmange. Very 1970s. We used to refer to it as Angel Depression.
I believe it is still available. Similar to it was Instant Whip, another gloppy dessert, which does not seem to be around now.

IIRC the butterscotch Angel Delight wasn't so bad. Still very much a token pudding, and not like any real butterscotch product, but it wasn't so bad as the others.

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It sounds rather like Cool Whip, except a do-it-yourself version.

CW was very popular in the '60s and '70s. It's a frozen dessert topping that comes in a round tub. The label shows a long list of inedible-looking chemicals.

I think there may have been (or be) something like what you describe, that has to be mixed up. "Desserta", maybe?

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Here you are ingredients and nutritional information So that you also get Boogie's post polycell.

Jengie

I note that it is suitable for vegetarians - except no self-respecting vegetarian would go near it,

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No self respecting person would go near it.

(I prefer the butterscotch.)

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quote:
Originally posted by Jengie Jon:
Here you are ingredients and nutritional information

The list of ingredients is appalling.
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Sugar, Modified Starch, Vegetable Oil, Fat-reduced Cocoa Powder, Emulsifiers: Propane 1,2 diol esters of fatty acids, Sunflower lecithin; Gelling Agents: Tetrasodium diphosphate, Disodium phosphate; Milk Lactose, Milk Proteins, Flavourings, Colours: Plain Caramel, Mixed Carotenes; Whey Powder from Milk, Anti-caking Agent: Silicon dioxide.
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Chocolate Angel Delight is much better. And the product is generally much more tasty than the cheaper alternative, Instant Whip. I think they finally withdrew that due to the masochistic connotations....

I once went to a café in Wales where they didn't serve coffee, they served Kenco (with a suitable Welsh accent, making it sound like Ken-caw). I don't think they'd ever heard of fresh ground.

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I don't think they'd ever heard of fresh ground.

Well, it tasted like mud ...


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Here are the ingredients for Cool Whip, per Wikipedia:

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Cool Whip Original is made of water, hydrogenated vegetable oil (including coconut and palm oils), high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, skim milk, light cream, and less than 2% sodium caseinate (a milk derivative), natural and artificial flavor, xanthan and guar gums, polysorbate 60, sorbitan monostearate, and beta carotene (as a coloring).[3] In some markets, such as Canada and the United States, Cool Whip is available in an aerosol can using nitrous oxide as a propellant. Cool Whip was formerly marketed as non-dairy, but in Jewish dietary traditions, Cool Whip was classified as dairy rather than parve (non-meat and non-dairy) because of the sodium caseinate (which is derived from milk). Cool Whip now contains milk and cream.



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How do/did you make your instant coffee?

If you put a spoonful in a mug & poured on boiling water you were doing it wrong.

The instructions say to use 1-2 spoonfuls and non-boiling water, this preserves the flavour. For even better results warm milk first. Even el-cheapo Lidl GranAroma tastes ok like this.

But if there do not bother with their "heavenly delight" (butterscotch), it doesn't taste like butterscotch.

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In Went The Day Well, all the Germans drink coffee and all the Brits drink tea. Enough said [Two face]

Seriously though, I think I prefer to drink tea and consume coffee in ice cream/cake etc, although I will drink coffee if it's nice quality. Lately thanks to trying to see if I am lactose intolerant, I've been having tisanes - can't do hot black tea.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jade Constable:
In Went The Day Well, all the Germans drink coffee and all the Brits drink tea. Enough said [Two face]

Seriously though, I think I prefer to drink tea and consume coffee in ice cream/cake etc, although I will drink coffee if it's nice quality. Lately thanks to trying to see if I am lactose intolerant, I've been having tisanes - can't do hot black tea.

[Confused] There's lactose in hot black tea?
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quote:
Originally posted by Porridge:
quote:
Originally posted by Jade Constable:
In Went The Day Well, all the Germans drink coffee and all the Brits drink tea. Enough said [Two face]

Seriously though, I think I prefer to drink tea and consume coffee in ice cream/cake etc, although I will drink coffee if it's nice quality. Lately thanks to trying to see if I am lactose intolerant, I've been having tisanes - can't do hot black tea.

[Confused] There's lactose in hot black tea?
No, but there's lactose in black tea with milk (obviously) and I don't like it without milk - that's what I meant by 'can't do'.

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FWIW, we have a Nespresso machine at home, and despite the cost and landfill issues the coffee is very good. Baristo-nazis will disagree of course, but I know people who roast their own beans by hand who think like me.
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I'd like a Nespresso machine or something similar, but I am perfectly happy with a cafetiere.
Coffee in the morning - strong and black please, without sugar. Tea in the afternoon and first thing in the morning, extremely weak and without milk or sugar. And, before anyone suggests that it isn't worth putting the tea in the pot and I might as well drink hot water...no. Just no.

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Thanks for all the responses about Angel's Delight. If it's anything at all like CoolWhip, which I do know, I'd want to stay as far away as possible.

A wise person once advised me 'Never eat anything which has more than one ingredient you either can't pronounce or know the meaning of.' The advice has stood me in good stead.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ariel:
Thankfully decaf these days is better than it was ...

For coffee, maybe, but decaf tea just tastes WRONG. I'm another one having to cut caffeine due to anxiety problems. I've rationed myself to two "rounds" (1-2 mugs) of tea per day. I went off coffee in my first pregnancy, nearly 30 years ago - still can't drink instant - and can only drink weak(ish) filter coffee now. And usually only once or twice a week.

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quote:
Originally posted by georgiaboy:
Thanks for all the responses about Angel's Delight. If it's anything at all like CoolWhip, which I do know, I'd want to stay as far away as possible.

A wise person once advised me 'Never eat anything which has more than one ingredient you either can't pronounce or know the meaning of.' The advice has stood me in good stead.

Angel Delight (no apostrophe) is not like Cool Whip, it's basically instant pudding but with a whipped texture rather than a jello-like one.

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quote:
Originally posted by QLib:
For coffee, maybe, but decaf tea just tastes WRONG.

It can be horrid. I haven't had a decent decaff tea so far, but as more people start asking for it, it may improve.
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quote:
Originally posted by David:
FWIW, we have a Nespresso machine at home, and despite the cost and landfill issues the coffee is very good. Baristo-nazis will disagree of course, but I know people who roast their own beans by hand who think like me.

Coffee grounds and also filter papers can be put in food recycling containers and also in garden compost bins.

Fresh ground coffee (especially from fresh ground beans) is one of the loveliest smells I know. It lifts the spirit.

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