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Long suffering readers will recall a similar thread about TV shows in which Erin came up with one of the best posts ever, IMNSHO. But enough name dropping.

Today I'll go with the Eagles who, after a sabbatical, came back and came up with _Get Over It_ which I will not link to to spare the hosts.

There may be other opinions.

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I'll go with a classic. Bruce Springsteen.

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The Eagles? They barely register as rock really.

In terms of music, I think Led Zep have to be rated up there. They made some fantastically rocking music.

In terms of performance power, GnR surely - they are performers, and they are good at it. I am ambivalent about some of their music, but they put on a show. Or did, before Slash left - no idea now.

For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab. Or for pretentious student rock, Pink Floyd.

And that is not even starting on the metal bands - Mastadon are producing fantastic stuff with their latest album. Listen to Soused by Scott Walker and Sunn O to see what fantastic a-temporal drone music is about.

So what do you mean by the best ever?????

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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab. Or for pretentious student rock, Pink Floyd.

Did you mean to say "bear", or, from the context, "beat"? Either way you'll probably get a lot of agreement ...
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Sorry everyone, but The Groundhogs are the original and the best. The only excuse for not rating them is that you haven't heard them. Split is one of the great LPs of all time.

I like early Alice Cooper too. There's hardly a weak track on Love it to Death or School's Out.

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Steely Dan. Ok, their lyics usually revolve around drugs, perverts, and more drugs, but the seamless, organic flow of their intrumentation combined with their creative (if tawdry) lyric craft makes them stand apart.

Dr. Wu is perhaps one of the best rock songs ever written. Certainly the most gorgeous piano arrangement I have ever heard.

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This is a really hard question. The problem is what does "best" mean. In terms of influence it is the Beatles. In terms of longevity,the Rolling Stones. God help us, but I think Abba is considered to have sold the most.

In terms of straight rock, I'd probably go with Cream. In terms of talent and amusement I'd go with Queen. In terms of feeling pretty good about Winnipeg (which is difficult), it's The Guess Who. In terms of just having fun, Doobie Brothers. To party with someone special in the 1970s, the Steve Miller Band. The list goes on.

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Never mind defining "best" first you have to define "rock", and that will start more fights than the Monty Hall problem in a pub.

Anyway, the answer is clearly the one that I'm going to form tomorrow. Perpetually.

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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab.

Amen. Nowhere near enough fans on the Ship.

(Aiming to Carpet Crawlers on 12-string at open mike night tonight, but boy did Gabriel have a big range!)

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Yes I did mean "hard to beat Genesis".

I think some people reckon anything after Gabriel left isn't worth it, and others have only heard their later stuff, which is pleasant, but not great. Songs like Ripples and albums like And Then There Were Three are still stunning pieces of work.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eutychus:
quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab.

Amen. Nowhere near enough fans on the Ship.

(Aiming to Carpet Crawlers on 12-string at open mike night tonight, but boy did Gabriel have a big range!)

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Nice. Good luck, Eutychus.

Another Genesis fan here, amongst other things. Always suspicious of questions about best anything ever, but from recent times, I'm partial to Queens of the Stone age.

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For Prog:
I also love Genesis with Gabriel. And some of the
early post Gabriel work.
For Classic
The Beatles, The Who
For Punk
The Clash, Fugazi,Bad Brains
Heavy
Black Sabbath

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quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Songs like Ripples.

I'd really like to do that too, but a) the top note is really seriously high and b) you can't do the instrumental part solo!

I've done Back in NYC after finding a manageable acoustic version and changing keys. Genesis are not the easiest band for a guitarist to cover.

I went to see them a couple of times in the Duke/Abacab era and they were the best band I've ever seen live (quietest: Whitesnake! loudest: Wishbone Ash; most disappointing: Siouxie and the Banshees).

I've also seen tribute band The Musical Box do the Selling England tour and the Lamb. They use the original set materials and aim to reproduce a historical concert exactly, down to word-for-word talk between numbers. I knew they would be good from the first chord of Watcher of the Skies - it was like being in 1973!

There is a part in Cinema Show which live is just 'Collins', 'Rutherford' and 'Banks' - I'd never realised before it was just three people and the richness of sound from those three, for the time, was amazing.

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I thought about fleshing this out myself but why should I bother?

Welcome to the forum ship of fools!

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The thing is, Genesis, in that period (when I got to see their Christmas show at the NEC on 4 hours notice), were the best live band around. I think the technologies have advanced so much since then that there are better, but for their time, they were amazing.

If you are taking MoR music, then for memorable tunes, I think Fleetwood Mac should get a look in. How many people don't know The Chain, even if they can't name it? the rest of the Rumours album is also very well known, very memorable, and brilliant. Albatross still sounds good today, despite being almost as old as me.

So what criteria should you put? U2 have been together and successful for over half the history of contemporary music, and have adjusted their style over time. Sunday Bloody Sunday is still brilliant. As is Beautiful Day.

When you go to individuals and their backing group - who are still bands, but with a focus on an individual - Jimi Hendrix and Gary Moore have to feature. There is no-one who can play like Jimi could. But how can you compare them to the likes of ELP?

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Neither Genesis nor U2 are on my list. Just a little too earnest. GnR, nope, not for people beyond a particular age.

Dire Straits? Knoffler the axe man.

Some groups had excellent albums and then not so much. Anyone recall Nazareth? Had them on 8-track. When this thread goes Bay City Rollers we'll know we're done.

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Anyone recall Nazareth?
Yes, I have My White Bicycle somewhere around here. But I only recently discovered it was about heroin. In fact it's hard to find a single from that era that's not actually about hard drugs...

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Anyone recall Nazareth?
Yes, I have My White Bicycle somewhere around here. But I only recently discovered it was about heroin. In fact it's hard to find a single from that era that's not actually about hard drugs...
You missed the ones about sex and love and drinking?

Love Hurts
Hair of the Dog
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"Love Hurts" was of course originally recorded by the Everly Brothers fully 15 years earlier. It probably wasn't about whatever was in vogue in 1975.

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The Eagles? They barely register as rock really.

In terms of music, I think Led Zep have to be rated up there.

If you're going to play the genre precision game, much if not most of what they did in their heyday (LZI thru IV) was blues. Rocking blues. But blues.

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Steely Dan. Ok, their lyics usually revolve around drugs, perverts, and more drugs

And condoms.

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Dr. Wu is perhaps one of the best rock songs ever written. Certainly the most gorgeous piano arrangement I have ever heard.
I'd say this is far from their best song. Everything on Aja beats it.

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For art rock, I think it is hard to bear Genesis, at least pre-abacab.

Amen. Nowhere near enough fans on the Ship.
Puhleeze. In a world with Yes and the Moody Blues, you pick Genesis? "Hard to bear" is right.

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U2 have been together and successful for over half the history of contemporary music

What exactly does that mean, "contemporary music"? All music is contemporary at the time it's made.

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I thought of Aja (just the track) but Dr Wu won out-- the piano just sends me. My all time favorite push-repeat- repeatedly jam is Show Biz Kids, and Time out of mind is absolute sex, but for me Dr Wu has all the elements that make me a Steely Dan fan.

Of course, you can sway my opinion by playing Gaucho (best story) or Sign in, Stranger (my favorite lyrics and harmony). but really, they make it hard to pick a favorite.

and Any World that I'm Welcome to is my theme song.

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Any major dude with half a heart surely would tell you that "Deacon Blues" is their best slow drag.

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Not for me. Gaucho. Nothing against Deacon Blues, but it gets totally overplayed on the rock stations around here.

[ETA NO! so wrong! Pretzel Logic! ]

Joe Jackson is a big SD fan and did an absolutely kickass cover of Major Dude on solo piano. Youtube it.

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I can't even begin to imagine who the best rock band is. But as far as the rock band I love the most, am most likely to want to listen to, it's Joy Division. After that, His Name Is Alive, if you count them as rock. (I'm not good with categories, really.)

As far as punk goes, the only punk band I ever liked was the Clash, and they've held up really well. They're pretty good rock'n'roll, never mind the sub-genres.

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I'm a Queen fan and not ashamed to admit it.

For cheesy over-the-top big-haired 80s fun, I find Def Leppard good value for money.

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quote:
Originally posted by mousethief:
And condoms.

Surely you mean dildos?
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Puhleeze. In a world with Yes and the Moody Blues, you pick Genesis?
Yes (i.e.: affirmative). I was disappointed by Yes (admittedly post-Anderson) in concert, and while the traditional lineup are/were all very accomplished musicians, I don't think the group sound is so consistently good. Perhaps we can agree on Bill Bruford, who played in both bands? My album knowledge of the Moody Blues extends only to A question of balance and I'm content to let it stay there.

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As has been pointed out, rock can mean many things. I remember being exited when a Virgin Rock radio station started, when in fact I liked about 2% of what they played, what with them playing the likes of that bloody "life is life" song, or Foreigner.

Mention of Black Sabbath here prompts me to say that I think of them, originally, as a blues band. They are considered to be metal, of course, but metal itself was an offshoot of blues until, I would argue, Judas Priests "British steel" moved themselves and metal in general away from blues, with the NWOBHM marking a clean break.

Certainly, a band I deffo class as rock and one I love is AC/DC, whose music includes a lot of blues numbers. Other bands commonly called heavy metal but I consider to be rock, such as Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin, also were massively blues influenced. (Interestingly, Iron Maiden, the pinicle of evolution, don't look to punk bands for their inspiration, as many assume of NWOBHM bands, but the likes of Free.)

Still, Iron Maiden have done rock songs (the dreadful "Bring your daughter...", for example), and Metallica's "Load" album was comprised of rock (and rock/blues) songs.

Prog rock fans may like "Hocus Pocus" by Focus (a song the Maiden have covered).

Many words, little sense, as one says in German. My conclusion is that rock and metal is rooted in blues, Black music. (Furthermore, the leather and studs imagery of heavy metal started with Rob Halford of Judas Priest, who had picked up the look from gay clubs. In other words, the now very white and heterosexual* heavy metal has Black and gay roots. * I wonder about class. Is heavy metal working-class? Black Sabbath, the godfathers of metal, of course were).

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Queen. Every time.

Some bands play the same kind of stuff, wear the same clothes, style their hair the same way - and they never progress or develop.

Listen to Queen and you'll find prog rock to rockabilly, heavy metal to synth pop, beautiful ballads to vaudeville, jazz to punk.

You'll find intelligence and triviality, you'll find pomposity and overdubs through to piano chords and a single heartrending voice.
Film music, stadium music through to unplugged singalongs, science fiction to protest, raw sex and almost Christian spirituality, gay through to macho raunchiness. And loads of tongue in cheek humour.

Bohemian Rhapsody is number one every time.


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Actually, Yes did do some great music too. And some rubbish.

It used to be a fairly clear division between Rock, pop, metal, blues, prog etc. While some bands would draw influences from different places, they tended to fit into one or other primary category - Led Zep, for example, while they drew from blues, were clearly rock, but influenced metal.

These days, most bands draw from so many roots, we have an explosion of genres. So it matters if you like Goth Ambient Death Metal rather than Ambient Black Death Metal, even though, to the uninitiated, they might sound the same. So many bands cross genres, that it becomes difficult to make any real comparisons. And many music fans - like myself - enjoy a range of different musical styles based on how I feel.

I have Kate Tempest, Mastodon, Placebo, James, Underworld and Adrian Snell on my Spotify list at the moment. I enjoy all of them, but I cannot compare - they are all excellent within their particular style. I mean how do you compare Nancy Boy with Eva's Song? Is Pale communion or Everybody Down a better album? Who knows.

The other problem is, for the best rock band, do you take one incarnation of a band? Or the whole of the work they did? Does "I Can't Dance" counter "Ripples"? Does "November Rain" make up for "Paradise City"?

The real issue is, I no longer care, because I like good music, whoever it is by, whatever genre they are in, and whatever else they have done. I like Pixie Lott's Caravan of Love. I don't have to like anything else she has done.

And this is not a criticism of the OP. It is just an exploration of the odd and diverse world we live in today. My favorite song and band will change daily/weekly/monthly. So what is "best" is a very ephemeral matter.

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quote:
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Listen to Queen and you'll find prog rock to rockabilly, heavy metal to synth pop, beautiful ballads to vaudeville, jazz to punk.

Prog rock? Jazz? Punk? Which songs to you have in mind there?

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Listen to Queen and you'll find prog rock to rockabilly, heavy metal to synth pop, beautiful ballads to vaudeville, jazz to punk.

Prog rock? Jazz? Punk? Which songs to you have in mind there?
Listen to some stuff from the first couple of albums for the prog stuff, especially Queen II.
There are some jazzy-type slow songs in the middle period and if you want something punk, listen to .
Sheer Heart Attack

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Well, of course. I remember "Who needs you?" or "Melancholy blues" which were quite jazzy. "Queen II" is a masterpiece.

You're right in highlighting their diversity. I went to the Freddie Mercury tribute in 1992 and the other men looked very different to me: All short hair and the such. Hardly a black t-shirt in sight.

Anyone else like Diamond Head here?

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I went to the Freddie Mercury tribute in 1992 and the other men looked very different to me: All short hair...

Yes, that was me! I was there too [Smile] Why didn't you wave?

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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Actually, Yes did do some great music too. And some rubbish.


Damn right.

My name is Sioni Sais and I bought Tales from Topographic Oceans.

It was a moment of revelation; that Anderson, Howe, Squire & co were purveyors of pretentious shit. From that moment it was back to rock, blues, soul and the better cuts of pop music.

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I went to the Freddie Mercury tribute in 1992 and the other men looked very different to me: All short hair...

Yes, that was me! I was there too [Smile] Why didn't you wave?
I swear there was a mess-up with the tickets, in terms of which entrance people should use. It took me two hours to get inside the stadium waiting in the queue. I got in on the opposite end to the stage and had to therefore walk half the pitch. I would have been noticable as one of the few people to headbang when the 'tallica boys were playing.

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Originally posted by Eutychus:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
And condoms.

Surely you mean dildos?
That crossec my mind, too, but I decided it is entirely possible there are scads of condom references in Steely Dan that I missed. These are the guys that wrote a blues song about the Oddessa.

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"Best"?

It depends on the genre and the mood I'm in.

For outright loud rock, you won't really beat Led Zep in their prime.

For punk, I would go for the Clash, although my favourite punk songs are by the Buzzcocks and the Undertones.

For blues, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac were light years ahead of the rest (check out the awesome three CDs of them live at the Boston Tea Party).

Depending on how you define "rock", I would also put a plea in for Tinariwen. But then if you're including them, why not include Orchestra Baobab?

And how do you define "best"? Overall longevity and quality? Or those bands who have flashes of utter genius? If the latter, then I would also nominate Thin Lizzy from the Jailbreak era.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
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Originally posted by mousethief:
And condoms.

Surely you mean dildos?
That crossec my mind, too, but I decided it is entirely possible there are scads of condom references in Steely Dan that I missed. These are the guys that wrote a blues song about the Oddessa.
Ahem.

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THAT's what the fez is? [Yipee]

Who fans, are you catching this?

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Do, by the way, you meant that they wrote a song about the Odyssey? So did Suzanne Vega, and I think it's a good one, personally.

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No, I meant The Odessa. i read some analysis of "Chain Lightning" that said it was basically a tongue in cheek reference to Odessa.

"Home at Last" is one of my favorites, though.

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Originally posted by la vie en rouge:
I'm a Queen fan and not ashamed to admit it.

So am I. One of the most fun things I've ever done was (about 20 years ago) being one of the backing singers in a concert by Flash Harry, an excellent Northern Irish Queen tribute band.

I'm also not averse to a spot of Genesis, The Who, Bruce Springsteen and (whisper it) Status Quo. [Hot and Hormonal]

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My personal choice is Rush. Still producing incredible new albums after over 40 years with the same three band members. Also their lyrics are outstanding - I often use bits in sermons (unnoticed by the congregation).

Queen would be my more "popular" choice.

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Philosophers and ploughmen
Each must know his part
To sow a new mentality
Closer to the heart


ChristinaMarie used to have that, or one of the other verses, as her sig. here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
quote:
Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Actually, Yes did do some great music too. And some rubbish.


Damn right.

My name is Sioni Sais and I bought Tales from Topographic Oceans.

It was a moment of revelation; that Anderson, Howe, Squire & co were purveyors of pretentious shit. From that moment it was back to rock, blues, soul and the better cuts of pop music.

There's enough good music in there that TFTT could have been the best side of an album ever recorded. Shame it took four and was over padded with rubbish.

As for later Genesis, despite the pop singles the long numbers were still brilliant. Domino for instance.

Rush are at their best in the concept pieces, 2112, Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Clockwork Angels.

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More mainstream rock than the proggy stuff. Deep Purple when John Lord was with them. Magnificent.

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Is this where I put in a vote for Barclay James Harvest?

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quote:
Originally posted by balaam:
quote:
Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
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Originally posted by Schroedinger's cat:
Actually, Yes did do some great music too. And some rubbish.


Damn right.

My name is Sioni Sais and I bought Tales from Topographic Oceans.

It was a moment of revelation; that Anderson, Howe, Squire & co were purveyors of pretentious shit. From that moment it was back to rock, blues, soul and the better cuts of pop music.

There's enough good music in there that TFTT could have been the best side of an album ever recorded. Shame it took four and was over padded with rubbish.


I believe that's called the Wagner Effect.

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I had a horrible dream last night in which I entered REO Speedwagon on this list. Bloodshed ensued.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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Deja Vu the 1970 album by Crosby Stills Nash and Young is one of the best albums ever made IMO. Tapestry (Carol King) and Sweet Baby James (James Taylor) figure in the same era. All of these combine what we would call rock, country, folk and pop today. Which underscores the problem of defining what is meant by rock.

But....

We tried to register a campus club called "The Disco Sucks Club" back then. I am pleased to see no disco entries in this list.

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