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Thread: Café now testing
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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Back in. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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noor
Apprentice
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I'm running Chrome - the chat room feature doesn't seem to work with this OS. Any known work-arounds?
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Sir Kevin
Ship's Gaffer
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Not here. I used to be able to chat at school: no more.
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Writing is currently my hobby, not yet my profession.
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Sir Kevin
Ship's Gaffer
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Welcome Noor. You may wish to post on the newcomer's thread in All Saints. Can you work around Chrome?
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Writing is currently my hobby, not yet my profession.
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noor
Apprentice
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I'm kinda weak working with Chrome right now - I'm beta-testing the Google Cr-48 notebook. I'm not a developer, rather testing as a "typical user". The chat feature works in the Chrome browser in Ubuntu and Windows, but not in Chrome OS. Just wondering if anyone here had some tips.
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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quote:
Originally posted by noor:
I'm kinda weak working with Chrome right now - I'm beta-testing the Google Cr-48 notebook. I'm not a developer, rather testing as a "typical user". The chat feature works in the Chrome browser in Ubuntu and Windows, but not in Chrome OS. Just wondering if anyone here had some tips.
Do you have Sun Java or OpenJDK installed?
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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grr, could get in earlier today - when I wasn't free to talk - now my &^(&ing pc is not letting me back in.
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All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell
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noor
Apprentice
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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Do you have Sun Java or OpenJDK installed?
I do not have java yet, apparently- working on it. I've found a walkthrough, but it involves rooting the thing and I'm a little out of my depth with that.
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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quote:
Originally posted by noor:
quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
Do you have Sun Java or OpenJDK installed?
I do not have java yet, apparently- working on it. I've found a walkthrough, but it involves rooting the thing and I'm a little out of my depth with that.
Haven't Google packaged Java up put it in their repository?
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no prophet's flag is set so...
Proceed to see sea
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Is there a "how to" or a place where errors can be explained for the cafe? 20 odd pages in this thread seemed just a little too much to wade through. I just thought I would try the cafe tonight. I presumed username and password in the Java window is the same as for the boards. Or is a special registration required? Perhaps there is a max number of users/bandwidth problem? I shouldn't think that Java would care much about OS and browser etc. But for full info my OS info from $ cat /proc/version is
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Linux version 2.6.35-22-generic (buildd@rothera) (gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro .4.4-14ubuntu4) )
#33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:34:50 UTC 2010
Using Linux Mint version of this. Firefox, Arora, Chromium all initiate Java fine the same way. The Java log window reports the stuff below, comment lines by me start with a "#".
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Socket thread started
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<contexts>
<user_context xmlns:xcr="http://xcruciate.co.uk" id="a3033" name="reception"/>
# the id= number changes on attempts.
</contexts>'
Context changed event fired
<commands/>
Round trip = 0 milliseconds
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<abilities>
<user_ability xmlns:xcr="http://xcruciate.co.uk" id="a3034" name="visitor"/>
</abilities>'
No consumer for nodes with name of 'abilities'
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<xcr:available_commands>
<xcr:command name="commands"/>
<xcr:command name="describe_commands"/>
<xcr:command name="describe_command"/>
<xcr:command name="registered"/>
<xcr:command name="unregistered"/>
</xcr:available_commands>'
New commands incoming
Command list complete for current context
New commands event fired
<registered pass="xxxxxx" user="no_prophet"/>
#removed password above
Round trip = 288 milliseconds
Buffer position = 0
Received XML = '<xcr:message category="term" message_id="registered_login_failed">Login attempt failed</xcr:message>'
Disconnected
[ 07. March 2011, 12:30: Message edited by: Tubbs ]
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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That sort of error comes up when the café has crashed. It does reset every so often so that any crash is not usually permanent. However, that might be a sign in error. I don't normally get a long error message if I sign in incorrectly.
Your sign in is the same as the boards - so for me it's my real name and the password I was sent for the boards. If you did that, do you have an underscore as part of your name? Because not all the extra punctuation and other symbols were set up initially as possible in sign in names.
The café starts getting overloaded at 50 people in there, which sounds unlikely for last night.
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no prophet's flag is set so...
Proceed to see sea
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Originally posted by Curiosity killed ...:
If you did that, do you have an underscore as part of your name? Because not all the extra punctuation and other symbols were set up initially as possible in sign in names.
Don't know about the limitations on the cafe's implementation of java. Underscores are supposed to be allowed with java since a 2006 bug fix for usernames I though. I'm afraid I picked up the underscore habit from the Unix days. I can try again later today. Thanks for the post.
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no prophet's flag is set so...
Proceed to see sea
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Nope. I think unless the underscore goes, I probly won't be having any cafe chats. If someone is doing java prg'ing perhaps they can be asked if this is indeed the problem or if they plan to implement the fix for underscores. No knowing what I might be missing otherwise - so just don't tell me! ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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Stuck as a ghost. ![[Paranoid]](graemlins/paranoid.gif)
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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Originally posted by Wesley J:
Stuck as a ghost.
Replaced ethernet cable now, using brandnew one. Now there's hoping...
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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I suspect the café might have crashed - not 100% sure because I've had recent internet connection updates which came with health warnings.
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Mugs - Keep the Ship afloat
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fletcher christian
Mutinous Seadog
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yep, it died
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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And sploosh...
Cafejust crashed me out.
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Enigma
Enigma
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quote:
Originally posted by Alex Cockell:
And sploosh...
Cafejust crashed me out.
I'm in now - anyone welcome
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Who knows? Only God!
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rufiki
Ship's 'shroom
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1000 posts - is that some sort of record?
I have crashed out. Anyone else?
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ThunderBunk
Stone cold idiot
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I am sat htere in solitary splendour, after some considerable period splashing around....
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Currently mostly furious, and occasionally foolish. Normal service may resume eventually. Or it may not. And remember children, "feiern ist wichtig".
Foolish, potentially deranged witterings
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Tukai
Shipmate
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is this computer working?
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lunar
Shipmate
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Hi anyone involved, I'm having a prob getting into the cafe. I download Faverolle, but then get a message asking me what program to open it with, but nothing works. I have Windows 7 starter on a Samsung N150 if that helps.
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Alone you stand without nobody near
when a trembling distant voice,unclear, startles your sleeping ears to hear
that somebody thinks they really found you. Bob Dylan
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Sioni Sais
Shipmate
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Originally posted by lunar:
Hi anyone involved, I'm having a prob getting into the cafe. I download Faverolle, but then get a message asking me what program to open it with, but nothing works. I have Windows 7 starter on a Samsung N150 if that helps.
A couple of us are in, but we're regular users. Try Sun Java 6 but it isn't always straightforward. I'm probably better off with XP!
That's about the limit of my tchnical expertise.
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"He isn't Doctor Who, he's The Doctor"
(Paul Sinha, BBC)
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lunar
Shipmate
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Thanks Sioni, I downloaded Java 6 and that sorted it.
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Alone you stand without nobody near
when a trembling distant voice,unclear, startles your sleeping ears to hear
that somebody thinks they really found you. Bob Dylan
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
# 1984
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Fell out.
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All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell
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Doublethink.
Ship's Foolwise Unperson
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It is working now
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All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. George Orwell
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fletcher christian
Mutinous Seadog
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:waves:
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'God is love insaturable, love impossible to describe'
Staretz Silouan
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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Could it be that the Cafe is now definitely broken? I've just updated java, browser is FF 26.0, Win XP SP3.
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Unable to launch the application!
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java.lang.SecurityException: Missing required Permissions manifest attribute in main jar:
http://addressofcafeserver.net/java/Faverolle/Faverolle.jar
at com.sun.deploy.security.DeployManifestChecker.verifyMainJar(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.deploy.security.DeployManifestChecker.verifyMainJar(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.doLaunchApp(Unknown Source)
at com.sun.javaws.Launcher.run(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Sadness.
[ 17. January 2014, 19:50: Message edited by: Wesley J ]
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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With latest Java - getting all kinds of security warnings.. certificates are all out of date - and security files aren't there...
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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So - that is it then? Goodbye, thou old and (t)rusty Cafe?
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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Paul.
Shipmate
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I can get in from my Linux desktop but not my Windows XP laptop. It looks like the latest official Java is more fussy about security which makes sense (they took a lot of flak over some security vulnerabilities a while back).
The "cafe" itself is fine and working as it ever was, it's just persuading java to run it without all the security i's dotted and t's crossed is a bit of a pain.
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Sir Kevin
Ship's Gaffer
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I can always get in, at home on the iMac and at school on the Windows machines, but there's never anyone there!
![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
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If you board the wrong train, it is no use running along the corridor in the other direction Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Writing is currently my hobby, not yet my profession.
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Curiosity killed ...
Ship's Mug
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It's the security issues. I'll use the café on the spare laptop which doesn't have anything personal on it, but it's a faff to get it up and running when there's so rarely anyone there. And that laptop is on borrowed time.
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Mugs - Keep the Ship afloat
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Alex Cockell
Ship’s penguin
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I'm on my primary laptop I use for work - not risking it.
I'm on FB and Twitter though..
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St. Stephen the Stoned
Shipmate
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I can't get in from my Mac under OSX, but got in using Linux Mint in VBox.
There was nobody there.
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Do you want to see Jesus or don't yer? Well shurrup then!
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Japes
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I can no longer get into the Café since I changed my laptop, and the old one was not keen on letting me in.
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Blog may or may not be of any interest.
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pjl
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Recently bought new computer.
Down loaded java 7 and landed straight on the
bridge.
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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I've just been to the Live Chat Cafe again, after having updated Java, and added a security exception to for the (unfortunately...) only http and not https securised Cafe address.
Would it be possible to upgrade the Cafe address to https, and if yes, what would this cost? Access via http Java is deemed very unsafe.
Thanks.
(If desired, please feel free to get in touch with me via the board e-mail icon. Ta!)
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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fletcher christian
Mutinous Seadog
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Still can't open the file at all. Does nothing. Hasn't done anything for me on two kinds of Windows and a Mac since 2012.
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'God is love insaturable, love impossible to describe'
Staretz Silouan
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Wesley J
Silly Shipmate
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Indeed. I'm on Win 7, and relucantly had to add a Java security exception, see here on how to proceed. However, I'm hesitant to use this for more than experimental access.
Thus I'd appreciate comments on my earlier enquiry above. Ta.
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Be it as it may: Wesley J will stay. --- Euthanasia, that sounds good. An alpine neutral neighbourhood. Then back to Britain, all dressed in wood. Things were gonna get worse. (John Cooper Clarke)
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RooK
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The chat functionality is not a high priority for our technical/editorial team, though options are being considered. You can reasonably expect those considerations to be pending for the foreseeable future.
Sorry.
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Chorister
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Never should have given up the Gorringe.
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Retired, sitting back and watching others for a change.
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