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luvanddaisies

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me too, also, similarly, as above.
[Waterworks]

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Jack o' the Green
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And me, but it worked perfectly this morning.
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Maybe it has to get up early tomorrow.
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aj

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quote:
Originally posted by aj:
EXTREMELY FRUSTRATED

Emma can log in without a hitch, but I can't. Same computer (Mac 10.4 with current version of Java).

Is it fussy about passwords with numbers in them?

I've tried while both logged-in and logged-out of the Ship.

I tried changing my password to something without numbers, but no help. Pressing `connect' does nothing - no progress bar, no nothing.

Entering my username incorrectly, or entering any old gibberish throws up the error boxes.

[ 15. March 2008, 22:27: Message edited by: aj ]

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ebeth

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quote:
Originally posted by Arrietty:
Attempting to reconnect gets me:

quote:
IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect)
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : socketConnect at line -2
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : doConnect at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connectToAddress at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.SocksSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 97
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1


Logged on and chatted fine this morning and now I get this message when I try to log in.

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Curiosity killed ...

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we broke it again, aj and ebeth, so no-one can play until someone comes and sorts it out again

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Emma Louise

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Ah that would explain it...

I've just tried to log in on my nice shiny laptop and it won't let me in [Waterworks] I thought as I had managed to get in earlier it would let me in... but no ....

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luvanddaisies

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Did we all fall overboard at the same time then?

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rufiki

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Looks like we did luvanddaisies.
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luvanddaisies

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At least it was egalitarian then. I feel somehow better knowing I wasn't the only one who got unceremoniously chipped into the swirling deep.

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Geneviève

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I was on about 3 times earlier today and just now I twice got the same lovely message the rest of you have been getting.

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Me too [Frown]

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Gwaelod
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quote:
Originally posted by rufiki:
OK, I have to ask: Why is the cafe named after a chicken?

All my coding projects of late have been named after the breeds of my chickens. I'm currently building a CMS called Orpington.

I'm going to need some more hens soon or else I won't be able to take on any new projects.

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rufiki

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Nice. [Cool]
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jedijudy

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I tried at lunch time to get in, and again now that I'm home from w*rk. (Halleluia)

This is all I've gotten so far:


IO Error (java.net.ConnectException: Connection refused: connect)
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : socketConnect at line -2
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : doConnect at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connectToAddress at line -1
java.net.PlainSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.SocksSocketImpl : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : connect at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
java.net.Socket : <init> at line -1
uk.co.darkgreenmedia.faverolle.SocketComms : run at line 97
java.lang.Thread : run at line -1


[Waterworks]

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Jillyb
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same as above [Frown]

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jlg

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Why am I here?
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As was stated earlier, the Cafe is down and broken for the moment. Since I suspect that melon and others who know how to fix it are all in time-zones such that they are asleep, it won't be up again for quite some hours.
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Emma-Jean
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Me too! *sniff*

And I've been waiting all patiently and everything!

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Ancient Mariner

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Ok, we're open for business again.

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aj

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Very frustrated.

Emma can log in from either of my Macs, but I can't. Has my username and password been blacklisted or something? I changed my password yesterday to one without numbers, wondering if it would work, but no luck. Does the Cafe update its password records straightaway?

I got my Ship password emailed to me to make sure I had the right one.

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Golden Key
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Re those of us permanently logged in who don't remember our passwords:

Go to My Profile, then click on View/Change Profile. In the Password box, clear out the old password and type a new one. BUT make sure you've typed it correctly and written it down--it doesn't ask you to confirm it. THEN try logging out and back in.

{Thought we should save Erin and/or the server some work.) [Biased]


BTW, I can't get into the cafe from this computer--it can't handle higher levels of Java. I do have another, and will try from there.

[ 16. March 2008, 10:27: Message edited by: Golden Key ]

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aj

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My username is only three characters long and is the one I've always had AFAIK. Is this too short for the Cafe's log-in system?

Here's what happens:

1) Enter username, enter password (having just done a Ship log-out-log-in to confirm password works).

Check logging box.
Press connect.
Nothing happens whatsoever.

2) Enter username slightly differently - e.g. ship-registered-email username (which is eight characters). Enter password.

Check logging box
Press connect
Error log box appears, as per the description of others.


Same result whether I try on a Mac or PC. It's all working fine for Emma on either machine.

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if there's no god, then who turns on the light when you open the fridge?

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Melon

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Spiffy, I think the café should 'just work' with Firefox on the EeePC - St Pixels LIVE certainly does. Last night I tried the café using Kubuntu installed on an EeePC and that worked too, once I had installed Sun Java (although you can't change rooms because the menu falls off the bottom of the screen).

AJ, I'll have a look at the username/password thing.

Everyone else, it looks like there are still some kinks to be got out of the server software, although it's holding up a lot better than last time we tried with real users. The problem is almost certainly on the level of what happens when someone disconnects, gets disconnected, has a power cut or whatever. There are quite a large number of possibilities, and the documentation about what happens in each case is vague (and, in some cases, wrong), so it's probably going to be a case of proceeding one crash at a time.

The good news is that Pease is going to set up the café so that it restarts itself in the case of sudden death, as well as recording its suicide note. Once he does that the café shouldn't be down for more than half an hour at a time, and we should also get the diagnostics we need to fix the problem.

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Geneviève

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Again, bless you Melon, Pease and all the others who are working on this!!
BTW: 've been using Firefox as my browser, and didn't have a problem until the error messages everyone was getting.

[ 16. March 2008, 11:57: Message edited by: DaisyM ]

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rufiki

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Has it gone again, or is it just me not getting in?
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Melon

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Gwaelod did the client-side programming (the bit you get to see) on the basis of Simon's artwork. Pease tidies up the mess we keep making of his server.

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Melon

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It had gone, but it's back now.

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French Whine

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Geneviève

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Kind of like the Holy Spirit--the wind that blows where it wills!!!!

[Big Grin]

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Wesley J

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Thanks for all the work, Monsieur Le Melon and may pease be with you, and us. [Cool]

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Melon

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AJ, it looks to me like short usernames and passwords should be ok. If you have any exotic characters in your password you might want to try removing them (although anything you can see written on a US/UK keyboard at least really ought to be ok).

You might like to make your password a little longer too while you are there, especially having given several large hints about it on this thread [Smile]

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Gwaelod
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It seems odd though that AJ gets an error when the password is incorrect, but nothing when it isn't. Doesn't sound like a username / password issue to me. Probably more to do with firewalls etc.
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Melon

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But Emma isn't getting that problem, on the same machines, presumably on the same Internet connection.

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Emma-Jean
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Okay now I get a different error message, something about "Unexpected disconnection (java.io.EOFEexcetion)"....etc.

Re: names, having a hyphen in my name isn't a problem is it?

I'm on a mac, which I just got a little over a week ago, my first mac, maybe I'm just clued out about something, but so far I haven't been able to get in, hmph.

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Melon

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Hyphens would have been a problem - I've added hyphens and underscores to allowed characters in usernames - they should work after the next restart, ie the next time it crashes or when Pease restarts it in a while.

If anyone has other non-alphanumeric characters in their username, please drop me a PM.

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Ann

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If I put in my name (my registered name and screen name are the same), nothing happens.

If I put an 'e' on the end, I get a logging report (which obviously tells me that is doesn't know the name/password combination).

I've just tried random letters for the user name - the report doesn't fire until there are at least four letters (for me).

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Bloody fantastic job.
Thanks for all your hard work on this.

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I went into the chatroom today. I like it a lot, and find it much better than the old one, because it shows the avatars, so it's not confusing to keep track of who is posting. I like that it is easy on the eyes and has options to make the font bigger. Thanks to everyone who made this chatroom. [Smile]
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Ancient Mariner

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All comments appreciated. Remember - official opening April 1st.

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jlg

What is this place?
Why am I here?
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Is it possible it expects at least four characters in a username? Since Ann, aj, and I can't get past the big blue box?
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luvanddaisies

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ok, not in cafe atm bucause am at w*rk and really would get nothing done if I was, but am taking a 5 minute concentration break.
Thought I'd share my thoughts, exciting as they aren't, on the refurbished cafe.

The Look strikes me as very good - fits well with the look of The Ship, and the room names are good.

i also like the real community feel that naming the chapel after Miss Molly and the bar after Gambit gives. If there is a space where that could be explained, perhaps with links to relevant limbo-ed threads, that might be really helpful for and interesting to newbies.
It's also clear to read and intuitive to navigate.

I really like having people's avatars display - it's like seeing their 'faces'.

Am using a Mac laptop, running Tiger, browsing with Safari, and had no problem getting in or anything up until something in the cafe called 'time' on a bunch of us last night [Big Grin] .

Clever, clever people who made it! [Overused]

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Gwaelod
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Okay, I think I've got to the bottom of the 'login with small usernames' issue. There's now a slightly updated version on the server - when you next run the cafe software it should automatically update.
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Ann

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Woo-hoo! Thanks, Gwaelod!

And I love the Welcome message!

I think I've used up my quota of exclamation marks for this month.

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Lolly

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That changed the error that I'm getting. It now says "Unknown error: the user attribute is of the wrong type."

Could be the apostrophe in the user name.

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Ags

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I'm in! Cool. Nicely done, you guys. [Overused]

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sophs

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I love the room names.

[Smile]

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Paul.
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Just crashed on me. Before it did it was very slow. It's not my internet connection which is fine otherwise.
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Gwaelod
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Originally posted by Siren's Call:
Could be the apostrophe in the user name.

Very likely, mark will know what data the server is receiving here, and why it is reporting this error. I would wait until he is around again to check.
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Melon

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I've just restarted the café with a few changes to which user names are accepted (and a capital M for Mess for whoever wanted that).

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Late Paul, our experience with St Pixels LIVE suggests that ISPs sometimes do silly things with chat-type packets that don't affect web surfing or email. (We get the same symptoms with both the café and St Pixels LIVE, sometimes, for some users, despite the server software being written in different languages by different people.)

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(hoping this gets through)

Speed's fine again now, but now the boards are slow and I have now failed twice to post to this thread.

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