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Lamb Chopped
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I am so damn tired of my system not working because some bright spark decided to add a "feature" I didn't want and don't need and can't turn off THAT IS FUCKING UP MY SYSTEM WHICH I NEED TO EARN MY DAILY BREAD THANKYOUVERYMUCH! Case in point--I just got an email from HP apologizing for screwing up something at headquarters that apparently reaches OVER the internet and instructs my fucking printer (pardon me, "all in one" grrrrrr like I needed all that?) to STOP WORKING if I don't comply with some fiddly reporting thing to HP. Which of course they got screwed up. If I wasn't a) cheap and b) lazyass, I would have spent a couple hundred dollars trying to fix a problem that wasn't even mine by now.

And now the thing is telling me it can't send a scan to my computer because it can't find the computer. Never mind it just PRINTED from the computer.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[ 23. May 2015, 03:36: Message edited by: RooK ]

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Yep - computers. I hate them, but mostly I hate that they have the power to make me so hate-filled. It shows that I need/want them, that I rely on them, that I'm powerless in the face of their facelessness, that they're winning somehow. The machines are winning. I had to re-set the router twice just to get this page to load. Lately it seems the connection crashes every time the screen powers down - now why should those things be even slightly related one to another?

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saysay

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Yep.

There was a brief period when computers seemed to actually make things better and more efficient.

Now they make me want to move to a tiny house off-grid and have no interaction with humanity.

To be fair, humanity and its insistence on fixing things that weren't broken by breaking things that can't be fixed has something to do with that.

Maybe if I had stuck with Linux?

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Kelly Alves

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I griped on FB one time that our PC is predictive-- in a bad way. I.e, I can be farting around playing Candy Crush for two hours service completely smooth, , then I check my news feed and see "please pray for me, my dad died." Then I click the link and thaaaat's when the connection decides to go reeeal sloww.

There's also the iPad text jump. You know, when you click on an article, and when you go to hit the " next" button on the slideshow, the page jumps to accomodate a long-- loading banner ad which coincidentally lands under your finger. Oh, how convenient.

[ 15. May 2015, 01:17: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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Leorning Cniht
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quote:
Originally posted by saysay:

To be fair, humanity and its insistence on fixing things that weren't broken by breaking things that can't be fixed has something to do with that.

I see you've encountered Windows 8 as well.
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Kelly Alves

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Oh God, Windows 8. Spent two days on my PC telling Chrome " Don't touch me there." I had to do a system restore to get it to behave.

And it won't let you watch defrag anymore. Small gripe, I know, but I loved watching defrag.

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My Windows 8 phone keeps trying to install apps that won't work with the hardware of the phone. Yes, I know I haven't installed Skype and it's very nice to talk to people the other side of the world. But, the camera on my phone is on the other side from the screen, so I can't see and be seen at the same time. Please, can you stop reminding me I haven't installed Skype everytime I get into a wi-fi hot spot.

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We can't watch defrag anymore?!!!?

I have a sad life.

And why in the hell does my e-reader insist on informing me every five minutes that I have no wifi available?

I'm READING, idiot. A downloaded book. It's in memory. Step away from the internet before I hurt you.

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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Why go through a window when you can use a door? And those who suggest apples may not know the company is rotten to the core. Just search the company name and tax avoidance and dead workers in China.

HPs will install Linux in about 20 minutes. I buy them off lease for <$200 and there's no software costs ever for anything. For newbies: Linux Mint.

No sympathy. You already know Linux if you know an Android. Or a Chromebook.

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Hang on. Don't you have to, like, vote for Ron Paul and invest in bitcoins if you use Linux or something? I thought I was cutting it close to the line when I started scripting my Mac and using X11 and the Terminal; much further, and my Good Socialist Credentials™* might have been revoked!

*Note: Ariston may or may not actually be a socialist.It varies on a day-to-day basis and depends largely on how much coffee he's had to drink

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Nah, Linux is more anarcho-syndicalism than libertarianism. Ron/Rand Paul won't like it because it doesn't make money. Or gold.

I quite like computers. What I can't stand is working for muppets who don't know how to use one.

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IngoB

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Linux works well for High Performance Computing or power users who want to save money, but to recommend it to people struggling with Win / OS X is just cruel.

Computers have reached the threshold of complexity where many problems we have with them are of psychological nature. Not that they have a psyche themselves... But on one hand we are tracking computer performance with our animal/human agent systems (basically a computer is a retarded slave to us), and on the other hand computers provide enough of a canvas by which some other human's psyche interacts with ours, leading to predictable clashes by silicon proxy (yes, some human idiot did think that this user interface was a good idea).

The core problem there is that most computers are still being programmed by computer scientists. And most of them have next to no insight into human psychology. Consequently, clusterfuck.

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Kelly Alves

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That makes so much damn sense that I am consumed with hopelessness.

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Leorning Cniht
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quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:

The core problem there is that most computers are still being programmed by computer scientists. And most of them have next to no insight into human psychology. Consequently, clusterfuck.

Actually, I think the core problem is that computers are programmed by idiots who think that changing the interface every few years is a good idea. Windows 8 is a case in point. The interface changed dramatically, all in aid of making your computer look like an unpopular cellphone.

Most things you do (I do) with a computer don't have a direct analogue in the real world, so the interface is going to be artificial. That's OK. Make it discoverable, and learnable, and don't change the groupings of menu options on a whim.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kelly Alves:
And it won't let you watch defrag anymore. Small gripe, I know, but I loved watching defrag.

Not just the coloured stripes of XP but, way back in Windows Me, all those tiny little boxes that covered your screen and changed colour as the program went through them ...
like this.

In every other way the Me operating system was a disaster: an unstable "upgrade" tagged onto Ms-Dos. Happy days.

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Jengie jon

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Actually the big problem is most of the programmers whether Windows or Mac do not use the interface. They are programmers, they write code. I would not mind betting a good number of them had a very unfriendly form of linux on their machine.

The result is they have no conception of the cost of changing the layout. They think that they should take the latest good design into account and not realise the rest of us have put in hours learning the last design and really do not want to do it for another.

Oh and saying Chromebooks and android are just like using Linux, is like saying Windows is just like using MSDos. I know Microsoft claims to have got rid of it, but it still turns up from time to time.

Alright I use Window, Android, Chromebook, Linux, and MacOS in that order. It goes with my employment territory, but I am not going to start typing linux commands on my Chromebook anytime soon.

Jengie

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Penny S
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On one of my other computers, the one using Win 7, I have a free downloaded defrag programme that allows watching. Defraggler - and I notice that it allows defragging of individual files - I have only ever used it to defrag the drive in the oldfashioned way, because I like watching it. And I was not convinced that Windows was doing a good job of it.

I found it very soothing after a hard day at school to watch the little boxes sorting themselves out. And wondering just exactly what was represented by the little boxes in real terms.

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Lamb Chopped
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I've just spent months learning Unix, and it reminds me of nothing so much as WordPerfect 5.0. As in, "Memorize these zillion commands and you can do whatever you want!" I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason it's never become more user friendly is that the people who've already suffered, whoops! put in the time to learn it want the rest of us to pay the same price.

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The thing I hated most about Unix was its case sensitivity.

I'm now a software test manager and one of the applications I used to test was developed on a Windows based server but the live deployment was to a Unix based server. Nearly every time there was a software release the pictures in the webpage wouldn't display because some the letters in the url were in the wrong case.

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molopata

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quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:
Linux works well for High Performance Computing or power users who want to save money, but to recommend it to people struggling with Win / OS X is just cruel.

I think you are about a decade out on that assessment. In fact, you can install a Linux system complete with basic office software in less than 30 minutes. Even getting the system fully configured to what I want takes less than two hours from scratch. No, I'm not a techie, it's just that it pales against the full day I used to have to invest for a Windows-Reinstall.

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We started at "my computer is missing basic functionality" and have progressed to "I miss staring at the screen watching little boxes fly past".

I'm dreading the next phase of this thread: "Solitaire's background was a nicer shade of green in Windows 3.1".

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Doc Tor
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I miss that my computer is not ready when I turn it on. I miss that they have gone from a box which you can actively do things on to a box which you passively consume from. I miss that I never used to have to nurse the fucking thing like it needed life support just to get it to work properly and talk to the things connected to it. I miss that 16k used to be enough for a letter, and programmes used to be things of beauty, wonder and brevity.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
I've just spent months learning Unix, and it reminds me of nothing so much as WordPerfect 5.0. As in, "Memorize these zillion commands and you can do whatever you want!" I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason it's never become more user friendly is that the people who've already suffered, whoops! put in the time to learn it want the rest of us to pay the same price.

I suspect your "'learning Unix" bears about the same relation to using a modern Linux (many, many versions available, all Free!) as using Windows does to typing MSDOS commands.

Molopta's right. I've found on various occasions over the last several years that installing Linux is rather simpler and quicker than installing Windows. And it's no more difficult to use than learning the foibles of the next version of Windows.

[ 15. May 2015, 14:54: Message edited by: Clint Boggis ]

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no prophet's flag is set so...

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quote:
Originally posted by IngoB:
Linux works well for High Performance Computing or power users who want to save money, but to recommend it to people struggling with Win / OS X is just cruel.

That is ignorance, stupidity and ideas from years ago. It isn't. Because this is precisely why we use Linux. You get a USB drive put, follow simple directions to put Linux Mint on it. Follow simple directions to boot from USB. Then run from the USB with out installing as long as you like. You can install later. There is no power user. Just something simple. I mention Linux Mint because it is the most Windows like.

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molopata

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quote:
Originally posted by orfeo:
We started at "my computer is missing basic functionality" and have progressed to "I miss staring at the screen watching little boxes fly past".

I'm dreading the next phase of this thread: "Solitaire's background was a nicer shade of green in Windows 3.1".

Hmm. From the keyboard of a Hellhost I sense the oblique threat of an official reprimand if we let this thread get too soft. So to get back to the original topic, I don't just miss - I deplore the basic lack of functionality that MS Explorer has when it is waiting for some far-flung data package to arrive. Instead of just parking the problem and letting you get on with doing something else like reading the news or ranting on SoF, it simply freezes and makes you click furiously on a pailed window with a circle going round in circles until whenever it is good and ready to let you get on with what you were desparately needing to do. I wonder what these jackasses are doing in Redmond besides racking in millions.

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orfeo

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quote:
Originally posted by molopata:
From the keyboard of a Hellhost I sense the oblique threat of an official reprimand if we let this thread get too soft.

We generally don't get official for that, just progressively more bitter and twisted. Eventually we audition for the lead in Sunset Boulevard.

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What gets me about computers is how much they bring us the petty moronities of life. For instance, I was playing a classical piece today on iTunes to drown out my co-workers droning on about their project. Good, loud, and wordless. Except iTunes keeps putting the damn piece on shuffle which completely ruins it. Yes I know how to turn off shuffle. I have done it repeatedly in various ways, but every time I start that playlist I have to remember again that starting it automatically means turning on shuffle in iTunes' opinion.

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Kelly Alves

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I will now picture you as Norma Desmond forever.

ETA: I will now picture both of you as Norma Desmond forever.

Hey, I am genuinely disgusted at MS's callous dismissal of people's need to perseverate. Who made them the Fun Cops? It's not like there is an overabundance of joy in the world that needs pruning back. Fuck them. FUCK THEM FOR TAKING MY DEFRAG. Bitches.

[ 15. May 2015, 16:43: Message edited by: Kelly Alves ]

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Ariel
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I hate the new upgrade of Opera. Version 12 was all right, it had compatibility issues but it had good points that other browsers don't have, so I naively downloaded the update and found myself looking at Opera 28, a monstrous Chrome-alike that eats memory as if it's going out of style and has lost the special features I enjoyed. The whole thing is so damn bloated that I can't easily run any other programs alongside it.

I'm sick of this endless rat-race of "new versions". Just get the sodding software right in the first place and STOP ENDLESSLY TWEAKING IT.

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So. New PC. Factory fresh. Everything working just fine, loading programmes on, transferring documents.

I change the background.

Everything vanishes. Files unindexed. Nothing works.

I mean, seriously?

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Lamb Chopped
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quote:
Originally posted by Clint Boggis:
And it's no more difficult to use than learning the foibles of the next version of Windows.

And you think that's encouraging? [Paranoid]

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Doc Tor
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So, 2 hours later, I'm pretty much where I was when it all went tits up.

I've reinstalled Windows, all the drivers, it thinks I live in the USA, my antivirus software is really confused as to which PC this now is, and I still haven't transferred any of my actual files yet.

Fuck you, Microsoft. Fuck you very much.

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RooK

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I love my computers. If they had orifices, I'd make that literal. They are my favourite tool - force-multiplying my intelligence and attention in pretty much every endeavour I have.

To complain about futuristic wonders that aid thought and communication is to expose one's fundamental misunderstanding of reality.

TL;DR - you all are fucking tools.

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IngoB is right. You all don't hate computers, you hate other people. You hate the way what they think is logical isn't to you. You hate the fact that they make mistakes. Basically you're just misanthropes.

So you're in the right place.

For all you defrag fans:

MSDOS Defrag

Win 3.1/Dos

Windows 95

Windows Xp

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I'm not fucking tools--they haven't brought me roses yet.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
they haven't brought me roses yet.

Surely that's your fault not theirs? If you want roses goto Google and type "roses" you'll get lots of pretty pictures the computer can give you, and lots of places where after entering a 16 digit number you can get sent as many roses as you want.

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Dal Segno

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quote:
Originally posted by Lamb Chopped:
And now the thing is telling me it can't send a scan to my computer because it can't find the computer. Never mind it just PRINTED from the computer.

My HP printer (sorry, all-in-one) does that too. The computer can find the printer but the printer cannot find the computer. It's something to do with the way the printer (sorry, all-in-one) is configured on the network. Sigh. Although I've the training to work out why it cannot see the computer, I also have the experience to know that it will be painful to try to fix it, so I haven't yet bothered.

Quick work-around 1: Launch the scanner utility on the computer instead. The computer can find the printer and you set the scan running from the computer. Simples.

Quick work-around 2: Stick a memory stick into the printer, scan to the memory stick, stick the memory stick into the computer.

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Lamb Chopped
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Thank you!

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Er, this is what I've been up to (book).
Oh, that you would rend the heavens and come down!

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul.:
For all you defrag fans:

MSDOS Defrag

Win 3.1/Dos

Windows 95

Windows Xp

This is terrifying on so many levels.

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Kelly Alves

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What terrifies me is how my heart just leapt. i am a sad, sad person.

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Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.

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Alan Cresswell

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What impressed me was how much free space those drives had. My memories are defragging drives with less than 10% of the drive capacity unused. And, with XP it always kept restarting so never managed more than a few percent of the defrag.

The exception was the Win 3.11 defrag. So many bad clusters. That drive was dead, why was it even still in use? Get a new drive and copy your files over before they're lost.

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Kelly Alves

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I'm glad you said that about XP. The restarts would drive me into a fury. 'Course it didn't help that I would put off defragging forever.

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RuthW

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Why would you put off defragging? So satisfying, and on XP and older Windows OSes pairs nicely with your third glass of plonk.
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Kelly Alves

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Just run of the mill forgetting to do it.

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RuthW

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Not enough plonk. Obviously. [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by no prophet's flag is set so...:
That is ignorance, stupidity and ideas from years ago. It isn't. Because this is precisely why we use Linux. You get a USB drive put, follow simple directions to put Linux Mint on it. Follow simple directions to boot from USB. Then run from the USB with out installing as long as you like. You can install later. There is no power user. Just something simple. I mention Linux Mint because it is the most Windows like.

Yadda, yadda. The Linux desktop is as dead now as it ever was. Surely lots of choices and everything for free would win the day? Nope. Turns out people want structure and stability, need learned patterns to be effective. Furthermore, if you have lots of people producing lots of free software, then that's nice. It's also a UI mess. Some people find it fun to pick their way through the mess. Most people don't. Finally, it's a group thing. It is simply attractive to do what everybody else does, and for good reasons - like getting support easily when things fail.

Linux in the form of Android and Unix in the form of iOS dominate the mobile phone market, handsomely. Why? Because of Google and Apple, respectively, of course. You need the big player to push the standardisation. Perhaps Google will gang up with Valve to take on Microsoft on the PC, then there will be a Linux desktop that's worth talking about. Otherwise it will remain a marginal geek thing. Frankly, I think the window of opportunity has closed. Win 8 would have been the perfect time to take on Microsoft, looks like they are correcting themselves with Win 10. Between that and OS X: RIP Linux desktop.

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IngoB

Sentire cum Ecclesia
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quote:
Originally posted by RooK:
I love my computers. If they had orifices, I'd make that literal. They are my favourite tool ...

TL;DR - you all are fucking tools.

You are jealous, because we are doing what you want to do?

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They’ll have me whipp’d for speaking true; thou’lt have me whipp’d for lying; and sometimes I am whipp’d for holding my peace. - The Fool in King Lear

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no prophet's flag is set so...

Proceed to see sea
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God looks to you for guidance oh worshipful ingbo. You make the point then declare your righteousness oh pope. [Overused] [Angel] [Axe murder]

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Kelly Alves

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The pope of hardware sex?

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I cannot expect people to believe “
Jesus loves me, this I know” of they don’t believe “Kelly loves me, this I know.”
Kelly Alves, somewhere around 2003.

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RooK

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ita quod homo est Dominus coierit cum uxore copiam homini mulierem instrumentum et annuntiaturus XXXIV regere secundum

[thus the lord decreed that a man should lie with his tool as a man who has no access to a woman, and announce it in accordance to rule 34]

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