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Boogie
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Our Church has started giving bacon sandwiches before the service to encourage people in.
What do you think of this and other gimmicks to 'get people in'?
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It is unlikely to attract vegetarians, coeliacs, slimmers, Muslims or Jews ...
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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
It is unlikely to attract vegetarians, coeliacs, slimmers, Muslims or Jews ...
Or people who wish to keep the eucharistic fast.
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Or student group have bacon butties before the service. Because free food is a reason to get up in the morning, and it builds community and relationship which is another reason to get up and go to church. It works. Not sure the rest of the church gas the same motivators though.
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Wesley J
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Won't people just sleep through sermon and all, tummy nicely filled with bacony goodies? I know I might be tempted! ![[Hot and Hormonal]](icon_redface.gif) ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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TurquoiseTastic
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Our church had bacon sandwiches after the service. But this was to encourage people to stay and chat.
It involves a lot more work than coffee, that's for sure.
I think it is more appealing to student/singles than to anyone who might have planned an actual dinner.
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Gamaliel
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On one level I think it's tawdry, tacky and smacks of desperation.
On another level, I wonder what I'm doing to 'get people in' (ie. nothing or next to ...) and what I'd suggest as an alternative that would be the antithesis of tawdriness and tack?
Our parish church has - quite successfully - been running a 'Big Breakfast' thing on a Monday morning, selling cheap bacon and egg breakfasts.
The person who started it up reckoned that they did so in response to a 'dream' they had one night - which they took to be some kind of divine guidance (too many bacon butties the night before?) ...
I confess to being completely cynical about the whole enterprise (what a surprise ...) but ... six months or so on I find that some of the people who have attended regularly (and most people who have are already on the 'periphery' of church or known to church people in some way) are now on Alpha courses or attending church for the first time ...
So, on a pragmatic level, it can and does 'work'.
The dilemma I then have is whether we should be principled or pragmatic ... surely another both/and thing ... ![[Biased]](wink.gif)
The reality is that very few people are likely to darken the doors of our churches spontaneously or on a whim ... there has to be some kind of community element or contact that can be built on.
I have less of an issue with a Monday morning Big Breakfast 'do' than I have with serving bacon butties before Sunday morning services ... the latter smacks a bit too much of 'rice-Christianity' to me ... I mean, even the most hardened vegan will melt at the smell of bacon butties in the morning ...
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Boogie
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Originally posted by Baptist Trainfan:
It is unlikely to attract vegetarians, coeliacs, slimmers, Muslims or Jews ...
There are veggie and gluten free options.
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Wasn't breakfast (and discussion) after the service part of the original Parish Communion movement?
But afterwards rather than before, yes, I think, if it's Communion. Or even if not: you need time to digest!
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We've sometimes had bacon butties before a family service. We are fortunate to have a large church hall with a good sized kitchen, and also to have a church warden who loves cooking. He is already thinking about a community Christmas dinner for this year. He and our treasurer, who also loves cooking, are already planning the menu for our "Seder"on Maundy Thursday.
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Originally posted by St. Gwladys:
We've sometimes had bacon butties before a family service. We are fortunate to have a large church hall with a good sized kitchen, and also to have a church warden who loves cooking. He is already thinking about a community Christmas dinner for this year. He and our treasurer, who also loves cooking, are already planning the menu for our "Seder"on Maundy Thursday.
Please don't have a Seder - here is why. Unless it is led by an actual rabbi it is deeply insensitive to actual Jewish people.
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Originally posted by St. Gwladys:
We've sometimes had bacon butties before a family service. We are fortunate to have a large church hall with a good sized kitchen, and also to have a church warden who loves cooking. He is already thinking about a community Christmas dinner for this year. He and our treasurer, who also loves cooking, are already planning the menu for our "Seder"on Maundy Thursday.
Am I the only one to wonder if he intends to serve bacon sandwiches at the "Seder?"
As far as the fast is concerned, I fear that any mention of it will only puzzle people-- I have been to a few TEC churches where buffet tables with danishes and bagels greet the worshipper as they enter. As well as the apparent ignorance of a few millennia of Xn practice, I always thought that it would be more practical to have people sharing food and talking after a service than before.
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More on topic - bacon sandwiches alone probably aren't the best option because they exclude so many people (Christian Unions often use them and they're not exactly the most culturally sensitive group) but breakfast generally is a good thing to have after the service. Around Easter local churches around here often do hot toasted Hot Cross Buns after the service. Snacks for after an evening service as good too.
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Albertus
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Originally posted by Pomona:
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Originally posted by St. Gwladys:
We've sometimes had bacon butties before a family service. We are fortunate to have a large church hall with a good sized kitchen, and also to have a church warden who loves cooking. He is already thinking about a community Christmas dinner for this year. He and our treasurer, who also loves cooking, are already planning the menu for our "Seder"on Maundy Thursday.
Please don't have a Seder - here is why. Unless it is led by an actual rabbi it is deeply insensitive to actual Jewish people.
Bugger insensitivity to Jewish people -well, not really, but that's just the icing on the cake- it wouldn't matter if the Jews were indifferent to it or amused by it- a good enough reason not to is that it's a bit of silly sodding about ill-informed attempt to be , y'know, multicultural (and look, cool, I can be even more multicultural and wear my African stole and include some prayers which we are pretty sure are Native American or are they Maori, well, never mind...).
I mean, it's not as if we, as Christians, haven't got traditional ceremonies of our own for Maundy Thursday, is it?
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I didn't realise that bacon sandwiches were a thing in 'food evangelism'. Why bacon? As has already been said, for many people it would be stumbling block for health or religious reasons. Providing alternatives might not prevent some potential participants from feeling uneasy.
I suppose the organisers have a particular target group in mind here, broad but certainly limited. That's probably a good thing in a way, because no church or Christian group can appeal to everyone. Might as well make that clear early on.
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Albertus
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Bacon butties a stumbling block for health reasons for some, possibly. For reasons of lifestyle choice for others. But for religious reasons? Unless you were making a point of wanting to try to attract Muslims and Jews to your Church, I'd have thought that would be pretty low down your list of worries.
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I can't help wondring whether cholesterol-lowering statins are suggested along with the butties!! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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If you live in an area where there are lots of Muslims then it's not irrelevant. I know of two local churches which see their ministry as involving Muslims. This makes a lot of sense in their environment. A CU at a uni with a growing international or multicultural British intake might also find such considerations relevant to their evangelistic strategy.
In another setting, though, the aim may be to focus on the 'typical' student, or the indigenous, ordinary local person who isn't too bothered about being healthy so long as they're fed.
I write as someone who enjoys bacon, but it's obviously not the most culturally versatile, user-friendly food....
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Have we given up on talking about our own faith and religious beliefs these days? Have we abandoned the whole concept of inviting our friends and family along to our church services, having lunch with them, chatting through the experience and answering any questions they might have? Are we really so uncomfortable or perhaps disillusioned with our own faith that we have to resort to the tactics of the consumer marketing hook?
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Food has long been part of Christian celebration ... think of the Moravian 'love-feasts' or go to any Orthodox Easter Vigil and see the goodies that await the faithful after the Lenten Fast ...
What bothers me about the way so much of this sort of thing is done these days is the sheer crassness of it.
An Anglo-Catholic priest of my acquaintance was mortified at a Deanery gathering a wee while back when all the delegates pigged out on lemon drizzle cake and copious amounts of tea and coffee before celebrating the Eucharist ...
It clearly hadn't occurred to them that someone of his background and persuasion was likely to be offended by that.
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Have we given up on talking about our own faith and religious beliefs these days? Have we abandoned the whole concept of inviting our friends and family along to our church services, having lunch with them, chatting through the experience and answering any questions they might have? Are we really so uncomfortable or perhaps disillusioned with our own faith that we have to resort to the tactics of the consumer marketing hook?
I appreciate that the loaves and fishes miracle didn't involve bacon, but I like to believe that that is because Jesus didn't want to offend his good jewish mother.
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A church near me is about to break out in a rash of activities, all organised by the HTB outfit which is planting itself there. I find myself wondering just how much difference there is between that kind of provision and bacon butties.
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By all means do bacon butties and tea or coffee, but why on Sunday? Do it as a service for people on the way to work in the morning, or as part of a "drop-in" centre for those who aren't working.
If nothing else, it shows that church is there seven days a week.
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
By all means do bacon butties and tea or coffee, but why on Sunday? Do it as a service for people on the way to work in the morning, or as part of a "drop-in" centre for those who aren't working.
If nothing else, it shows that church is there seven days a week.
It's also the best way I could think of, barring coming right out and saying it out loud, of saying, "church isn't for men." Just Hausfraus and the independently wealthy.
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Bannock and stew is common in the Canadian north ( subarctic). Bannock is fried bread, sort of like frying baking powder biscuits but containing more fat (butter, lard). The stew is usually something hunted like venison, caribou or moose. Most common would be eucharist first. But children, elders, the really hungry might eat before.
The point is to meet people where they versus fitting them to traditions.
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Brought back some happy memories. We used to have a croissants and toast prayer meeting on a Saturday morning - with bacon butties served if more than 25 turned up by the start time. One morning there were 22, and the organiser, (who was also the cook), clearly feeling hungry, added in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit as three "persons" also present.
I like bacon butties a lot, but various health problems have put them on the regular "no-no" list. So if they went on the regular pre-service or post-service menu at my church, I'd claim discrimination and demand a muesli option.
But I always feel for the volunteers who get lumbered with these extra duties. Special times are different. We have bacon butties on Easter Sunday morning for those who get up for the outdoor dawn services. Now I reckon that's a good idea.
Last year, getting back to the church hall after the dawn service, and greeted by the delicious aroma coming from the church hall kitchen, I thought "blow the diet!"
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Kelly Alves
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Originally posted by Albertus:
Wasn't breakfast (and discussion) after the service part of the original Parish Communion movement?
But afterwards rather than before, yes, I think, if it's Communion. Or even if not: you need time to digest!
For that matter, wasn't a bigass potluck a main feature of the original Eucharist?
Breaking bread with someone-- any kind of bread- sends a powerful message of welcome and acceptance, more than any amount of talk can.
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How about meeting people 'through' traditions?
Only if your traditions are intelligible. Wierd words and activities that no one does anywhere but church, when "I"ve never been to church and haven't a clue about church aren't likely to entice me in or speak to me.
Which is not to say do away with tradition, but to suggest having a clear idea as to who you want to meet and finding a way to meet them that they have the slightest clue about.
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Just to take the other tack (or to play Devil's Advocate) take my own case:
As a college freshman, I (from a small southern Methodist congo) was dropped into a large, TEC ultra anglo-Cath parish. The service was (mostly) in English (Cranmerian) with lots of music, the likes of which I had never heard.
I didn't understand more than 20% of it, but I was intrigued by it. Enough so that I kept going back, and kept asking questions, LOTS of questions.
The clergy and people were friendly, the after mass coffee and snacks were abundant. There were other people my age. In short, I was hooked.
You don't have to understand it to like it, is what I'm trying to say.
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Originally posted by mousethief:
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Originally posted by Sioni Sais:
By all means do bacon butties and tea or coffee, but why on Sunday? Do it as a service for people on the way to work in the morning, or as part of a "drop-in" centre for those who aren't working.
If nothing else, it shows that church is there seven days a week.
It's also the best way I could think of, barring coming right out and saying it out loud, of saying, "church isn't for men." Just Hausfraus and the independently wealthy.
Or the out-of-work.
A local ELCA church, situated next to a very blue collar, car-service oriented area, offers free lunch every Wednesday to the local mechanics and salesmen and car wash attendants, as well as anyone who wants to join them. The church is right on the border between a fairly cushy residential area and a hardscrabble lower income area-- so they also get the, um, "hausfraus" as well as the single moms on welfare. The church membership, as a result of this really brilliant cross-- class outreach endeavor, is about as eclectic as I have ever seen.
(They also are right across the street from the diviest dive bar in the county, and I suggested once it would be a great venue for a pub church. )
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For those who were short of food, the early Eucharistic Feasts must have had a similar appeal (no teeny wafer and sip of wine for them).
I must admit, when I spent several months in London, the midweek Eucharists - with coffee and chocolate bars afterwards - were rather appealing. Especially as I was, at the time, on a very tight budget...
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Remember the chaplains rounding people up for breakfast after Sunday morning Communion in the college chapel in my undergraduate days- always boiled eggs (usually eaten using torn-out sections of the carton for an eggcup), tea/coffee, toast, Golden Shred marmalade.
We do now have one or two people who regularly come in just for the coffee (and perhaps a loaf if there's one going spare) after Communion at our place on Sunday mornings. One of them usually asks for a blessing too, although he rarely if ever attends the service. They're welcome and we expect to see them.
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What's the attraction of eating sandwiches filled with bacon? (I've never heard the term butties before). I can't imagine anything much worse than bacon before a sung eucharist. I'm afraid I can't understand how a bacon sandwich would bring people to church and find the whole idea quite bizarre.
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What's the attraction of eating sandwiches filled with bacon? (I've never heard the term butties before). I can't imagine anything much worse than bacon before a sung eucharist. I'm afraid I can't understand how a bacon sandwich would bring people to church and find the whole idea quite bizarre.
What? Are you being serious? Bacon sandwiches are proof of the existence of God!
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Bacon butties are something of a British tradition, of course ... I don't know what the equivalent would be in Tasmania ...
In New York it'd be coffee and bagels, in Spain chocolate and churros, in France croissants perhaps ...
I can understand the community building aspect but that's what people might be drawn towards -- it won't be the bacon butties in and of themselves.
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Posted by Doublethink:
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I appreciate that the loaves and fishes miracle didn't involve bacon, but I like to believe that that is because Jesus didn't want to offend his good jewish mother.
Well, at least you brought a smile to my face.
It's not really the bacon butties, or the food before or after the Eucharist. I guess I've just developed a very low tolerance lately for gimmicks. I've had a glut of them here lately and every church on every corner seems to be doing more gimmicks, expressions and messiness than praying. While I appreciate that it is not the experience of everyone everywhere, I do feel that where I am it's all a bit much; to the extent that I'm wondering if we've completely lost the plot.
I'm sorry if my post seemed unduly cynical or tart.
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Originally posted by Pomona:
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Originally posted by St. Gwladys:
We've sometimes had bacon butties before a family service. We are fortunate to have a large church hall with a good sized kitchen, and also to have a church warden who loves cooking. He is already thinking about a community Christmas dinner for this year. He and our treasurer, who also loves cooking, are already planning the menu for our "Seder"on Maundy Thursday.
Please don't have a Seder - here is why. Unless it is led by an actual rabbi it is deeply insensitive to actual Jewish people.
The Patheos post makes excellent points, but I should note that seders are typically family rather than congregational events, and there is no expectation that a rabbi will "officiate": the author's friend in this case just happens to be a rabbi, but a "lay" head of household would do likewise.
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My parish offers a full on breakfast at 9am between the two services. It is free (free will offering for those who can) and open to the public. Fully 50% or more of those attending on any given Sunday are from the local neighborhood. It is a service to the community, no one is pressured to attend the 1015am serivce or come early for the 8am. Just simple radical hospitality.
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Kelly Alves
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And I am sure that sort of hospitality will pay off in the long run. If (God forbid) a fire hits your parish, you can bet the people who came for breakfast will be lined up to help rebuild.
Down the highway there is a community church that offers a twice monthly pancake breakfast, and a large number of the people who attend do so after attending the Catholic church down the block. That is because, in addition to food events, the church actively sponsors a local service network for migrant workers and their families. The church opens their facilities for the network to use during the week.
The arrangement seems mutually supportive in many ways-- if the church needs help (say, for maintenace problems) the pancake eaters are right there to help, and the church is the goto place for local farm workers in need of housing, employment, and health assistance.
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On this side of the pond we have bacon and egg sandwiches, or bacon, egg and cheese (Velveeta makes them especially tacky), but I had never heard the term "bacon buttie" before. Love it! I'll call them that from now on.
The nice thing about bacon and egg sandwiches is that they can be made with any kind of bread, or bagels, or rolls. It's always toasted though, of course. Personally, I prefer Swiss cheese but have made them with other kinds.
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Originally posted by Augustine the Aleut:
As well as the apparent ignorance of a few millennia of Xn practice, I always thought that it would be more practical to have people sharing food and talking after a service than before.
Our shack does a communal breakfast thing once a month. It's after the earlier service, and before the later one, so it allows habitues of both services to mingle.
Most people wouldn't have much of an idea that fasting was a thing.
I'll note that our priest does not eat the breakfast, but couldn't tell you whether it was because of a desire to fast or to do with the more practical difficulties associated with shoveling down a plate of sausage right before presiding at the next service.
Oh, and bacon butties are wonderful. You wouldn't make them with toasted bread, though - then you wouldn't have anything to soak up the lovely bacon fat. It's probably worth reminding people at this point that "bacon" in the US is streaky, whereas UK bacon comes from the loin back.
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Ahh, so we're talking about something like this?
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Ahh, so we're talking about something like this?
Thanks for that link. I have a conference in Toronto later this year. Bookmarked that page!
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By peameal bacon do you mean back bacon? What streaky bacon is, is just called bacon hereabouts. Extra verbage for no extra info. Reminds me of people calling ordinary beets 'beetroots'. As if there were other kinds.
Do you pronounce "butties" in the same way you say butt? Bacon butty sounds like something extra on the back end and would be probably heard as rather rude here. Doubtful for church lingo.
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What's the attraction of eating sandwiches filled with bacon? (I've never heard the term butties before). I can't imagine anything much worse than bacon before a sung eucharist. I'm afraid I can't understand how a bacon sandwich would bring people to church and find the whole idea quite bizarre.
We had not heard the term beforehand, and fearing a bacon equivalent of the deep-fried mars bar, looked up Wiki. Not known here* and we've never heard of bacon sangers, which is Wiki gives as the name here. Not saying it's not used somewhere, just that we've never heard it. It does sort of have a Queensland or Territory sound to it - "Let's have a bacon sanger or 2 and then go and see how the crocs are going with that busload of American tourists that arrived yesterday"**.
* What is sold and seems popular at the takeaway food shops near the city railway stations is a bacon and egg roll, always sold under that name.
** How do you separate 2 crocs? Give them a yank.
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Our Church has started giving bacon sandwiches before the service to encourage people in.
What do you think of this and other gimmicks to 'get people in'?
I would suggest that it's very sacramental - in the original sense of the word.
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Reminds me somewhat of the parable where the poor are called to the banquet. Better make sure you're properly dressed for your bacon butty else it'll be outer darkness for thee.
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Forget haggis and whisky - Scotland runs on bacon butties.
Maybe it's a north thing, but that combination of salt, grease and stodge seems to be the necessary fuel to get through the day. Liturgically speaking, I would tend to place it after the early morning service, for, while it is breakfast, it is best as an earned breakfast.
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