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Simon
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Hello and welcome to The Simmies, named after the illustrious St Simeon the Holy Fool, our patron saint. We're launching these annual awards to honour the comedians, educators, saints, board addicts and nutjobs who hang out on the Ship and make this such a rewarding and infuriating place to be. And we're hoping that you'll tell us who deserves each of our 14 awards, which are...
Shipmate of the Year Newbie of the Year Host of the Year
Best Thread Best Post Best OP Best Quote Best Sig Best Avatar
Theologian of the Year Wit of the Year Hell Denizen of the Year Lamest Hell thread Best Putdown
Just a few points about this board's posting protocol.
1. Each of the awards has its own thread. The threads are for nominations and also for comment and discussion, all mixed in together.
2. To make the nominations stand out, they need to be posted using a specific format. The correct format is given in the OP of each thread. Please follow this procedure or your nomination may be deleted.
3. As normal, please adhere to the 10 Commandments for all the threads.
4. The rules for The Simmies are here.
This thread is for posts about the awards in general and how they're run. [ 16. December 2008, 23:22: Message edited by: Simon ]
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luvanddaisies
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This could be most interesting. Do winners get to make a speech, which'll be drowned out by the band if they exceed (x) characters?
<sits back with popcorn>
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FreeJack
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Could we spell out OP in full please?
(Not that I am junior hosting!!)
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Chelley
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Interesting! Aside from pondering my own views, I know I'm going to have to do my own little prediction list of who I reckon the Ship will vote for in each category. I'll award myself a very large bar of chocolate if I get 'em all right!
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JonahMan
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Isn't this a bit like having 'Member ratings' - which we hate?
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Amazing Grace
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May someone nominate more than one person for a category?
Charlotte
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Lyda*Rose
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Now I know why most Oscar nominations are from the fall. I have trouble remembering what I had for breakfast today let alone that great thread that what's-his-name started back in the spring. Or was it summer?
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Left at the Altar
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Where's the thread for Crabby Old Bastard of the Year???
I'd like to nominate Gort for something.
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dj_ordinaire
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quote: Originally posted by Left at the Altar: Where's the thread for Crabby Old Bastard of the Year???
I'd like to nominate Gort for something.
Are those two comments connected in any way, one wonders?
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Simon
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luvanddaisies: Yes, winners will get to make a speech. Expect tearful thanks to named shipmates, family members and pets.
FreeJack: OK... OP is now spelled out. Thanks for the suggestion.
JonahMan: Not really. This is just once a year, after all.
Amazing Grace: Yes, nominating more than one person for a category is fine. I know it can be hard to choose for some categories.
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Marvin the Martian
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quote: Originally posted by Sine Nomine: Is this just a glory thing or are there any cash benefits?
Depends on how much you can flog the trophy for on Ebay, I guess...
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Wairua
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or if you nominate on receipt of bribes . . .
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Genevičve
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Or follow the illustrious Blago's example to "keep the ***** thing" and nominate yourself!
ETA: Maybe we could have a category for Shippie who uses edit the most. I think I wouldnominate myself for that. It would be a mysterious award--is it a compliment or a putdown? [ 11. December 2008, 14:42: Message edited by: Genevičve ]
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moron
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quote: Originally posted by Simon: board addicts and nutjobs
Ridicule us and we come begging for more.
Genius.
(Yes, I'm still vying for The Golden Asshat. I could die happy. )
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luvanddaisies
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Does the winner of the Golden Asshat award actually win an asshat? I'd like to see what one looks like, wonder if I can really piss some people off between now and Hogmanay...
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The Rogue
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Are the St Simeon Trophies mugs which haven't been sold yet?
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Lyda*Rose
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quote: Originally posted by mjg: quote: Originally posted by Simon: board addicts and nutjobs
Ridicule us and we come begging for more.
Genius.
(Yes, I'm still vying for The Golden Asshat. I could die happy. )
You are really going to have to raise your game this month, then. Sure, you annoy a few people sometimes, but we are talking serious, dyed-in-the-wool, A-list annoyers here. You are not exactly there yet.
Sorry, hon.
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Arabella Purity Winterbottom
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If someone has already been nominated, does one put in a second nomination if one agrees?
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Alfred E. Neuman
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quote: Originally posted by Left at the Altar: Where's the thread for Crabby Old Bastard of the Year???
I'd like to nominate Gort for something.
I knew someone cared!
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Left at the Altar
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You knows I luvs Ya baby.
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Simon
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quote: Originally posted by Arabella Purity Winterbottom: If someone has already been nominated, does one put in a second nomination if one agrees?
Ideally, if you're agreeing with an existing nomination, you could simply add an ordinary post to second it, but add some reasons why you think the person/thread/whatever deserves it. The people judging the nominations will take note of what's been said in support of them, so feel free to make the case.
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Anselm
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Are we allowed to nominate and vote for our own sockpuppets?
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luvanddaisies
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quote: Originally posted by Anselm: Are we allowed to nominate and vote for our own sockpuppets?
Actually... there's an idea
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JonahMan
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quote: Originally posted by Simon: JonahMan: Not really. This is just once a year, after all.
And if you have sex just once a year, you are still a virgin.
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rugasaw
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At least you wouldn't be a slut.
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Janine
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Maybe there needs to be an award for Most Blatant Attention Whore?
(ETA cause, like, some folks the sublime, and some folks have sublimation.) [ 12. December 2008, 01:47: Message edited by: Janine ]
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Emma Louise
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Do we get to vote on a selection of nominees at some point or is it being decided by a group of people? (All the hosts? A select few?) If the latter - will our input make a lot of difference?!
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frin
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The Academy will vote on the winner, based on the nominations. The quality of supporting evidence offered on a thread will certainly influence their decisions.
'frin Host of The Shippies
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Chelley
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Re: The nomination for Best Putdown for Zappa - who can't be nominated as a host - could they not be nominated if they're posting on another board in a non-hostly capacity? Or do we feel they have an unfair advantage in getting too many opportunities to practice, as hosts!
[ETA: aren't the awards the Simmies, not the Shippies?] [ 12. December 2008, 09:23: Message edited by: Chelley ]
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frin
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Hosts, admins, and admins emeriti (pedants, please advise) cannot be nominated because all will be part of the Academy and thus vote on the nominations in each category. The exception is the Best Host award, for which hosts may be nominated and which will be decided by you, the ship of fools public.
'frin
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Chelley
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Oh yes, thanks 'frin - didn't think of the voting part (even though I read the rules!).
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Jason™
Host emeritus
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PSA: Just reminding you all that I am not currently a host, so you can stop worrying about whether you can nominate me for pretty much every category.
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Jason™
Host emeritus
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Question:
Is there a list of all current hosts somewhere? Some people probably don't post on all boards and may not realize who is a host and who isn't, and I've just had a look and haven't found any such list.
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dj_ordinaire
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I guess anyone who wants to can just look at the heading of each Board.
I also wonder whether people will want to vote for Hosts they never actually encounter in their posting lives!
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frin
Drinking coffee for Jesus
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I suggest you nominate whoever you like for awards. If you nominate a host, then the nomination will be counted as ineligible. If you nominate a non-host for host of the year, then you will deserve all the howling smilies heaped upon you.
'frin
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babybear
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Could someone explain to me why it is "The Simmies 2009"? Why is it not 2008 when that is the qualifying period?
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dj_ordinaire
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quote: Originally posted by frin: I suggest you nominate whoever you like for awards. If you nominate a host, then the nomination will be counted as ineligible. If you nominate a non-host for host of the year, then you will deserve all the howling smilies heaped upon you.
'frin
Though one could certainly make such an honest mistake by nominating a long-serving host who has stepped down...
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Sioni Sais
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quote: Originally posted by babybear: Could someone explain to me why it is "The Simmies 2009"? Why is it not 2008 when that is the qualifying period?
Don't you remember receiving "annuals" every Christmas? On December 25 1965 one could receive the "Dandy" Annual 1966 (I didn't, I got the Eagle and I guess you got the Bunty Annual).
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dj_ordinaire
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quote: Originally posted by dj_ordinaire: quote: Originally posted by frin: I suggest you nominate whoever you like for awards. If you nominate a host, then the nomination will be counted as ineligible. If you nominate a non-host for host of the year, then you will deserve all the howling smilies heaped upon you.
'frin
Though one could certainly make such an honest mistake by nominating a long-serving host who has stepped down...
Actually, additional to this, is it only current Hosts who can be nominated, or can Shipmates nominate those who have worked at some point during 2008 even if they have retired?
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FreeJack
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Could I also suggest we rename/renumber the competition as The Simmies 2008 please?
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babybear
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quote: Originally posted by Sioni Sais: Don't you remember receiving "annuals" every Christmas? On December 25 1965 one could receive the "Dandy" Annual 1966 (I didn't, I got the Eagle and I guess you got the Bunty Annual).
I didn't, I had to wait to be born, and then wait a few years to learn to how to read before I got annuals.
I remember being very disappointed to see that for some reason the Blue Peter annual was showing the wrong year. In the annual there was a review of lots of things that had happened in the year , but they had given the annual the next year's date.
With things like the Beano it didn't matter as the annual was simply a big, hard-backed comic, and wasn't a review of the year just gone.
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Lots of Yay
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quote: 11. Only shipmates with live accounts (i.e. not banned or suspended) during the nomination period and at the time of the online presentation ceremony may be considered for an award.
I only have one account. Does that mean I don't get a prize?
Hahahaha I'm hilarious
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Jel
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quote: Originally posted by dj_ordinaire: quote: Originally posted by frin: I suggest you nominate whoever you like for awards. If you nominate a host, then the nomination will be counted as ineligible. If you nominate a non-host for host of the year, then you will deserve all the howling smilies heaped upon you.
'frin
Though one could certainly make such an honest mistake by nominating a long-serving host who has stepped down...
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Lyda*Rose
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Maybe if the host who had stepped down had served during 2008, they'd still be eligible. Simon or admins?
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Grits
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I think there should be a category for "Shipmate Who Doesn't Post Much Anymore and I Really Miss Him/Her."
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Johnny S
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I'm struggling to think who to nominate since there are so many great posters.
Maybe this is further complicated by the fact that I have no relationship with any other shipmates in RL. I find it interesting how many nominations are based on meeting the shipmate in RL. I think it goes to show that there is no substitute for the real thing. (I don't know how to do that trademark symbol thingy.)
Just a thought.
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Pooks
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quote: Originally posted by Lots of Yay: Hahahaha I'm hilarious
Yay, you are. I still can't help myself giggling everytime I scroll past this post.
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frin
Drinking coffee for Jesus
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quote: Originally posted by Lyda*Rose: Maybe if the host who had stepped down had served during 2008, they'd still be eligible. Simon or admins?
That sounds reasonable.
'frin Simmies Host
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Simon
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This has also been posted in the Styx...
We're going to make three changes to the awards which will hopefully put them in the mischievous, entertaining area they were intended for.
1. We're dropping the Asshat award entirely. Personally, this is a bit of a blow, as FD generously nominated me, but I'm sure I'll get over it. We've been looking at ways to make the thread an outpost of Hell, or to reframe the award as being for the most asshat moment rather than person, but I think dropping the award over the side is the simplest and cleanest option. Apologies to those who spent time nominating on that thread, but it's locked now and will disappear later today.
2. The vote for the winner of each category is now going to be public and open to everyone. This means abolishing the Principalities and Powers aspect of the rules and putting all the awards to a public poll (one per thread) once the nominations process is complete. Which means that everyone, including the Hosts and Admins, can now nominate and be nominated. I think that will be a genuine improvement.
3. We're going to lose the Junior Hosting category, to avoid the possible spectacle of Hosts attacking their wannabe counterparts. We were going to lose the Hell Denizen category, as no one's been nominating for it, but I don't want to fluffify the whole thing too much. There are some strong contenders, so I hope nominations will start to flood in.
The rules will be changed sometime this evening.
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