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Thread: Hell: Embarrassing Gagging
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Nightlamp
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I guess then it is ok to invent lies about any nation. I suppose if a film was made about the Invasion of Grenada involving the bombing of a wedding party combined with the detention of grendian officials with no protection under the geneva convention that would be OK?
I believe that historical accuracy is quite important and in the patriot I seem to remember misses out the fact that a plantation owner would have had slaves.
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Rev per Minute
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Originally posted by Nightlamp:
I guess then it is ok to invent lies about any nation. I suppose if a film was made about the Invasion of Grenada involving the bombing of a wedding party combined with the detention of grendian officials with no protection under the geneva convention that would be OK?
I believe that historical accuracy is quite important and in the patriot I seem to remember misses out the fact that a plantation owner would have had slaves.
Not having seen the movie, I don'e know whether it is a 'good film', nor did I say that it is OK to 'make up lies'. The Patriot is clearly not historically accurate and that error, along with others mentioned, mean that you shouldn't take a line on the American Revolution from it.
What I objected to was the hyped-up anger of the British press and others who took offence at the church-burning, saying 'this never happened and it's a slander upon Britain to suggest our troops would ever do such a thing'. The fact is that British troops did do such things - no doubt other countries' forces were equally as bad - and the fake horror that 'we never did this to the Americans' seems to hide the fact that 'we did do it to the Irish'. From a film and historical point of view, 'borrowing' the event from another war is dreadful - but it was still an act by British troops against 'rebels' in the same century, just a bit closer to home than the 13 colonies.
Sorry, this is a tangent, and I'll calm down now.
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Qestia
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Originally posted by Robert Miller:
Best/worst spoiling of a movie (which I've never seen) - My brother telling me that in "The Usual Suspects" the guy with the limp did it. Apparently he did it at a cinema line too ![[Disappointed]](graemlins/disappointed.gif)
I nominate my spouse for the best/worst spoiling of a movie. He told a friend before she saw "Grand Canyon" that it was pretty good, but sad when everyone died at the end. So the whole movie she's steeling herself for this moment, right up till the end when all the characters are staring at the Grand Canyon and she's thinking they're about to fall in it. Which of course never happened, and they were all fine.
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RuthW
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The newest offense: in the movie of A.S. Byatt's Possession they've made Roland an American. What a bone-headed thing to do. I loved this book, and I've been looking forward to the movie. Now I don't know if I can bear to see it.
review from the industry rag (LA Times)
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blackbird
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i loved that book, too, but paltrow? is that the best they could do?
all jaws sequals s**k.
wizard of oz, however, rules.
"fly my pretties!"
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Newman's Own
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To take just one more shot at the Sound of Music, with relation to historical accuracy, I believe it was just slightly off the mark (at least in the theatrical version - I don't recall if the dialogue at the ball is included in the film) to assume that no Austrians supported the Third Reich.
The part of the dreadful Titanic which angered me most was that Rose, at the film's conclusion, tosses the priceless jewel into the sea! All I could think of was that her family could never have had to worry about financial security for generations for what that jewel was worth!
I also shall pan, as a whole and without reservation, any of the biblical flicks of the 1950s that featured Jesus in a minor role and never showed his face.
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Amos
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I can't think of a single Bible flick that doesn't make me gag with the possible exception of The Life of Brian.
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Newman's Own
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Originally posted by Amos:
I can't think of a single Bible flick that doesn't make me gag with the possible exception of The Life of Brian.
I did love Zeffirelli's "Jesus of Nazareth." The others... well, that could be a wonderful thread in itself!
So let it be written. So let it be done! ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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likeness
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Originally posted by Newman's Own:
I also shall pan, as a whole and without reservation, any of the biblical flicks of the 1950s that featured Jesus in a minor role and never showed his face.
What, even Ben Hur which has the coolest chariot race sequence EVER! (Even if much else in its 5 1/2 hours is pretty stodgy).
I always liked Barabbas. The condemned man who is released ("the light hurts my eyes") because Jesus died in his place. Then spends the rest of the film obsessed with but unabe to comprehend this extraordinary fact. There are also terrific gladiator fights, Sicilian salt mine sequences and more. I believe you can now pick it up on DVD.
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Sabra
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So good to see others who hate Disney...Being a fan of fairy tales, I particularly hated The Little Mermaid, which I only saw because I had a headache and thought all the blue in the movie would be soothing...Ariel's supposed to die, dammit!
I found U-571 bearable only for the fact that I saw it with my hubby & a friend of his (both submariners) and we spent the whole movie making fun of their various inaccuracies...
For that matter, I find nearly every sub movie ![[Projectile]](graemlins/puke2.gif) worthy, with the exception of Das Boot. And I have been forced to watch a good many.
Not much to add that's new, though I did particularly hate Wild, Wild West, which was the most annoyingly racist movie I have seen in a while. Also:
The Blair Witch Project
The Mummy Returns
Austin Powers (yep, I hated the first one)
The Sound of Music...For some odd reason, my 8th-grade German teacher made us watch this. Oh wait, I recall. He liked Switzerland, and at the end of the movie, they run into Switzerland.
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Robert Armin
All licens'd fool
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Spiderman. Was glancing at my watch all the way through, wondering how much more I had to endure (at the end discovered allmy friends had been doing the same, we should have walked out en masse). Bizzare lines like: "You're taller than you look stop hunching your shoulders," when he wasn't. And the never ending, truly speeches, where Peter Parker/MaryJane goes on and on about how wonderful the other's eyes are.
Totally agree with all that's been said about Titanic. In fact, anything with Lenny the Kipper in is pretty suspect in my book.
(BTW - don't you dare suggest killing off Ariel! She's the brightest light on board the Ship! Oh, you meant someone different? ![[Embarrassed]](redface.gif) My mistake.)
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Sabra:
Ariel's supposed to die, dammit!
I object to that.
I thought the cracks about washing powder were bad enough. Now I'm getting death threats.
Wanderer, thanks and remind me to increase your salary. And get you a user name I can type correctly first time.
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Robert Armin
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(Although it is interesting to know where Ariel got her name from. There I was thinking she'd been all classical and Shakesperian, when she'd just pinched it from Disney. Ah well, she could have chosen Baloo I suppose. Or Snow White. Simon, if I pay you enough could you make the Little Mermaid Ariel's avatar? This could be a way of making some serious money, if we could pay to chose/alter shipmates's images!)
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Keeping fit was an obsession with Fr Moity .... He did chin ups in the vestry, calisthenics in the pulpit, and had developed a series of Tai-Chi exercises to correspond with ritual movements of the Mass. The Antipope Robert Rankin
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Ariel
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Don't you dare even think about it. You do and I'll get Simon to change yours to Noo Noo from the Teletubbies. That should look good when you post in Purgatory.
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Robert Armin
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Well, it might improve my image of academic respectability! (Certainly can't harmit . . . .)
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Schroedinger's cat
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I'm also going to nominate "Treasures of the snow". The Book is OK if a little trite ( we were reading it to the boys over the holidays ), but the film is seriously gagworthy. Little house on the praire meets Heidi meets The Sound of Music, all in soft focus.
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Pyx_e
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The Thin Red Line is the only movie I have ever got up and walked out of (and I just sat through spy kids 2 with my four boys, who loved it ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif) ) utter utter utter shit. Never mind gagging I just hated every poseurish, overblown, quasi artistic bullshit filled moment of it. Did I tell you it was utter shit?
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blackbird
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i love thin red line. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif) can't decide if it's because of Jim C's sex appeal, or Sean Penn who looks eerily like my padre. maybe it's the (almost complete) lack of a sappy love story like the type that ruined spiderman.
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Shoehorn with Teeth
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Grease.
A bunch of "teenagers" (played by actors in their 20s and 30s) with no self control or self respect.
Oh, and the singing and dancing. That was bearable.
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Amos
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I walked out of Mad Max. Genuine gagging. Now that I think of it, I've also walked out of Pollyanna (with the toe-curlingly embarrassing Hayley Mills).
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Callan
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Originally posted by Presleyterian:
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John Wayne as a Roman centurion is a helluva lot more believable that John Wayne as Genghis Khan, the role he played in "The Conqueror." His best line upon gazing at the opposing tribe's princess played by Susan Hayward (again with the Susan Hayward!): "I see the Tartar woman and my blood says take her."
I have always wanted to see this film. If only because I have heard wonderful things of the Duke's wooing technique with Miss Hayward.
"Say, you're beautiful in your wrath".
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Merseymike
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The Sound of Music is wonderful.
Its not my faultall of you who don't love it are heterosexual and just don't understand
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Amos
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The Sound of Music is wonderful, but only in the Dress Up and Sing Along version. Tell me, Merseymike what did you go as? Liesl, I bet.
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blackbird
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i can't find the other movie threads, and since i'm sure some will want to riducle and gag, i'll put my post here.
i saw Possession last night. yes, enormous details are left out (where's val? the glass coffin theme? etc.), but i read the book several years ago, so i can't remember it all anyway.
and i prefer the suggestion of sexual encounter, rather than the clumsy, gratuitous movie scene, though they didn't get carried away, thankfully, but all in all, i enjoyed it. (if you don't read the book before the movie, try to at least read these poems: Maud, Christabel, and Childe Roland to the Dark Tower Came.)
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Schroedinger's cat
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As we're in slagging off movies mode - the New Scooby Doo movie is really quite bad.
I suspect the influence of SMG was too strong - maye she has it is her contract that she has to kick people, adnthere has to be something supernatural going on. But it wasn't Scooby. It was a cartoonised version of Buffy.
And as such, unsuitable for my kids who love the real Scooby ( and watch it avidly! ). The original ideas ( Kids find themselves somewhere. Odd happenings. Finally unmasked as the Janitor/Rival with some fun tricks ) are far better.
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Campbellite
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Mrs. Campbellite and I has the singular misfortune of seeing The English Patient in theater. The cinematography was spectacular, but the story was boring as hell.
Mrs. Campbellite absolutely LOATHES Wizard of Oz. I don't care about it one way or the other.
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Schroedinger's cat
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The English Patient is much better on Video. In short doses. Not a particularly bad film, but slower that a squashed hedgehog.
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