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Happy New Year to all Geeks and non-Geeks!
After the most recent demise of 'It's Geek to me: translating computereze' - may it rest in peace in the Great Recycling Place in Heaven (or Limbo, as the case may be)! - I'd say there needs to be a new thread on the subject. As we're more and more electronialised in our lives, this 'ere place may well be where related questions will be answered.
Whether Mac or Windows or Linux, or possibly even Android and others, give it a try. Help, suggestions and good advice may be available! Oh - and tea, coffee and biscuits, as well. - Just don't spill any on the keyboard.
To begin, press 'Start' now. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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I have a question...
How can I get my DVDs onto my iPad, or onto a hard drive that will talk to my iPad?
I have a MacBook 1.1 (yes, it's 14 or 15 years old, I think).
I tried the other day to Bluetooth my music across from it (well, from the hard drive it lives on) to my iPad, but the MacBook couldn't work out what the iPad was, so couldn't connect. iPads weren't invented when it was made. Any suggestions for making that work would also be gratefully received.
That means I can't get a ripper and put them onto the MacBook and then transfer them over.
Even if I could, I think it might take a while for my little MacBook to manage that much.
It's quite a lot of DVDs, full sets of Star Trek (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, Vgr) box set of The Prisoner, box set of Hornblower...
If it weren't expensive, I'd be willing to take them and a hard drive (which I don't yet own) to somewhere in London to get it done for me, but I don't know if that exists, and Googling isn't being that helpful.
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I would have thought it should be possible to do it via iTunes. (Admittedly I have a much more recent iMac)
On your MacBook load the DVDs into iTunes and then sync with your iPad.
iTunes should be able to recognise the iPad.
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It can't. My MacBook can't recognise the iPad. It sees it but can't connect because it can't recognise it. The MacBook is too old. This is why I can't transfer my music either. It's an iPad Air 2, so has no connectors, so it would rely on Bluetooth to talk to my MacBook.
I don't think you can rip commercial DVDs with iTunes, can you?
if I could, and if I cou,d get a hard drive that could both plug via USB into my ancient MacBook and talk to my iPad Air, then that could be a possibility...
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Thinking about using iTunes, which hadn't occurred to me...
If I used a nice new external hard drive ( [URL=WD My Passport Ultra Premium Portable Hard Drive - 3 TB, White https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00YRBNJXS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_BQ9IwbQNM744T]this[/URL] ) with a wireless adaptor ( [URL=Toshiba Stor.e Wireless Adapter for USB Hard Drive https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00J32Z6VE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awd_bV9Iwb1X6YV48]this[/URL] ), would I be able to put my DVDs onto iTunes using my MacBook, and save all of those as well as all of my music onto the new external drive, then use the wireless adaptor to play them on my iPad?
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Apple are very concerned about making as much money as possible, erm, I mean about protecting content owners' rights. So ISTM, iTunes is not the way to go.
Possibly helpful link.
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Thanks, but the MacBook is too elderly to be able to run Handbrake. I had a look after ElaineC suggested using iTunes.
If I could run Handbrake or similar, it would be ideal. I could get a nice fat hard drive, stuff all the music on it, rip my DVDs onto it and use a wireless transmitter to let the iPad talk to it.
(Or if an ickle DVD player existed that could talk to my iPad, that would also work. I've googled, and it doesn't seem to. Even better, if a DVD/hard drive combined ickle thing existed that could both play and rip, that would be lovely).
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Originally posted by luvanddaisies:
It's an iPad Air 2, so has no connectors, so it would rely on Bluetooth to talk to my MacBook.
It has a lightning port, right? Can you not connect that to the macbook with a lightning -> usb cable (this is probably the cable you use to charge your ipad)?
Although having said that, Apple is usually too smart for it's own good, and maybe this won't work.
I'd have thought that copying whole box sets to the iPad would fill up its storage pretty fast. Are you wanting this to be able to take something to watch with you whilst travelling, wanting to watch DVDs in your iPad in bed at home, or what?
There exist hard drives with built-in WiFi (eg. Seagate GoFlex) that can apparently be used to store video and stream to the iPad.
But the fact that Apple go out of their way to make it hard to move data around is one reason that I hate all things Apple...
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(For the music transfer, you might be able to set up a free dropbox account or, copy the music form your ancient mac to dropbox, and thence to the iPad.)
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Even better, if a DVD/hard drive combined ickle thing existed that could both play and rip, that would be lovely).
If you wish to carry another device, why not just get a portable DVD player? Cheap as chips.
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Originally posted by Leorning Cniht:
It has a lightning port, right? Can you not connect that to the macbook with a lightning -> usb cable (this is probably the cable you use to charge your ipad)?
I hadn't thought about trying that, but it's worth a go! Thanks.
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Are you wanting this to be able to take something to watch with you whilst travelling, wanting to watch DVDs in your iPad in bed at home, or what?
At the moment it would be for watching at home in bed or on the sofa with headphones while my flatmate watches something else on TV. Were I to go back to sea again though, it would be lovely to have them on a hard drive ready to go. Also, it looks like DVDs are going to go the way of video, so starting to move them across to a digital format would be a good thing.
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There exist hard drives with built-in WiFi (eg. Seagate GoFlex) that can apparently be used to store video and stream to the iPad.
I saw those on Amazon, but they seem to have a little less storage than other small hard drives for the money. I was looking at one non wifi one that was tiny and did 3tb, which would be good for box sets and music, I think, maybe?
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Originally posted by luvanddaisies:
Even better, if a DVD/hard drive combined ickle thing existed that could both play and rip, that would be lovely).
If you wish to carry another device, why not just get a portable DVD player? Cheap as chips.
It is looking like that is sort of the only available option, yes. It also looks cheaper, although I wouldn't describe forth or fifty quid as "cheap as chips"!
It would then end up being a just in the house thing, taking one of those and a bunch of DVDs is I was travelling would be a lot of extra weight and space to carry. It's fine at the moment, but not a long term solution. I think I'm going to do that though. This is Star Trek's 50th Anniversary year, and to celebrate it I want to watch all the series.
It is annoying, I don't want to be supporting illegal download sites, especially since I actually own the DVDs, but it looks like if I want digitised versions of the stuf I have, that that's what I'll have to end up doing, unless I can ever afford to replace my old MacBook, and then if I did that, I'd still have getting my data from it to a new laptop, especially if I just went for a cheap Windows one.
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It can't. My MacBook can't recognise the iPad. It sees it but can't connect because it can't recognise it. The MacBook is too old. This is why I can't transfer my music either. It's an iPad Air 2, so has no connectors, so it would rely on Bluetooth to talk to my MacBook.
You can't use Bluetooth to transfer files to an iPad. They don't support transferring files over Bluetooth.
In general, to transfer media to an iPad, you use the lightning cable that came with your iPad (which you're probably using to charge), and then transfer files through iTunes. Unplug it from the charger and plug it into your Macbook.
However, it's going to be touch and go if you can find a version of iTunes old enough to support your Macbook and yet new enough to support your iPad.
You might have a shot if:
- You make sure your Macbook is running MacOS 10.6.8 (the latest version of MacOS it will support)
- You download iTunes 11.4
- Your iPad is running iOS 8, and not iOS 9
The last one is crucial. As far as I can tell, there is no version of iTunes that will run on MacOS 10.6.8 that will also support iOS 9.
So, assuming you meet those requirements, how to rip the DVDs? Handbrake will work on your computer if you use an older version. Look here -- you want one with MacOS, GUI and i386 in the name, such as HandBrake-0.9.5-MacOSX.5_GUI_i386.dmg.
If all else fails… If you can't get a version of iTunes that'll support your iPad, you might still be able to make something work. You'd need to look for a third party video player app for the iPad, such as VLC. Install that, and then make sure that both your iPad and your Mac are connected to the same wifi network. Convert your files with Handbrake as normal, and then follow the instructions on this page to copy the files into VLC on the iPad.
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My iPad is running OS9.
I shall have a look and see, it suddenly looks more complicated, but I'll follow your post through and see how it goes, thank you.
Does that mean I'm never going to be able to move my music across? It's all stored in a hard drive, I was going to (eventually) put it onto another hard drive then connect that to my iPad, and I just assumed that would work.
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Does that mean I'm never going to be able to move my music across? It's all stored in a hard drive, I was going to (eventually) put it onto another hard drive then connect that to my iPad, and I just assumed that would work.
There is, AFAIK, no sensible way of connecting an iPad to a hard disk with a cable.
There are basically two ways to get data to your iPad. One is via the lightning port, with iTunes (or something else that will masquerade as iTunes). The iPad doesn't do anything useful, like present itself as a USB mass storage device.
The second is over WiFi. Probably the easiest way of doing that is with a client for some cloud service like dropbox, but there also exist more generic file browser apps that will support other things.
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Another Apple related query....I can't buy music via iTunes any more via my MacBook...when I click on the "buy" button, nothing happens.
My iCloud account is still live and kicking....the most recent payment for the account was taken a couple of days ago. It is very vexing.....
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I running Word on Windows 8 and sometimes when I insert a footnote, the number gets printed twice at the bottom of the page (ie. the cursor jumps to the bottom and I see that ^5656^ has been inserted instead of just ^56^). It's not a huge issue (I can just delete two of the digits, but I'm curious as to what's going on and why. Attempting to google for this, I just get lots of discussion about how to use the same number for two different footnotes.
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Which version of Word are you running?
It sounds rather as if you'd used the Insert Page Number feature and then at another time gone into the footer and added a page number doohickey there, too. It's possible to do that because the Insert Page Number is basically a shortcut for the other procedure, which takes a few more clicks.
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I running Word on Windows 8 and sometimes when I insert a footnote, the number gets printed twice at the bottom of the page (ie. the cursor jumps to the bottom and I see that ^5656^ has been inserted instead of just ^56^). It's not a huge issue (I can just delete two of the digits, but I'm curious as to what's going on and why. Attempting to google for this, I just get lots of discussion about how to use the same number for two different footnotes.
I`d strongly recommend you take the free upgrade to windows 10, its soooo much better than 8.1
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Originally posted by Adam.:
I running Word on Windows 8 and sometimes when I insert a footnote, the number gets printed twice at the bottom of the page (ie. the cursor jumps to the bottom and I see that ^5656^ has been inserted instead of just ^56^). It's not a huge issue (I can just delete two of the digits, but I'm curious as to what's going on and why. Attempting to google for this, I just get lots of discussion about how to use the same number for two different footnotes.
I`d strongly recommend you take the free upgrade to windows 10, its soooo much better than 8.1
Or, even better, Linux.
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If you do take the 'upgrade'(!) route (and time is ticking on), then for heaven's sake take the trouble to do your research first, and if you decide to go for it consider clicking on 'Customise' when you get to the 'Settings' screen.
Only do this if you have any care about what your operating system supplier (Microsoft in this case) entitles itself to do with your machine and data.
Windows is inexorably becoming more and more intrusive and oppressive regarding 'ownership' of the user's computing experience. Microsoft ideally wish your computer to become a simple 'appliance' which you use, but they own and control.
On one level the advantages are obvious: computers are immensely complex, and most people have neither the interest nor training to keep them working properly (let alone actually USE them properly!), so it makes sense to lift that burden, as far as possible, from the hands and mind of the irresponsible user---just as is done with cars.
On another level many/most of us use our computers to enable us to manage very personal aspects of our lives. There is information and practices that are nobody's business but ours (both legally and socially). Added to that we may wish to use our computer as we choose, not as some irresponsible profit driven corporate agency chooses.
Windows 10 offers some improvements over previous iterations of Windows. It also offers a whole new way (for Microsoft) of how the operating system is managed and maintained. It opens up some major questions and risks, some of which can already be seen by the way Microsoft is attempting to persuade/coerce users into using W10---whether they want to or not.
In the end it's up to us to choose, and that includes how responsible we want to be for what the box in the corner does with the information we place on it.
Thankfully Windows is not the only option, and it still has things going for it, but as the old saying goes: caveat emptor.
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Originally posted by Adam.:
I running Word on Windows 8 and sometimes when I insert a footnote, the number gets printed twice at the bottom of the page (ie. the cursor jumps to the bottom and I see that ^5656^ has been inserted instead of just ^56^). It's not a huge issue (I can just delete two of the digits, but I'm curious as to what's going on and why. Attempting to google for this, I just get lots of discussion about how to use the same number for two different footnotes.
I`d strongly recommend you take the free upgrade to windows 10, its soooo much better than 8.1
Or, even better, Linux.
I have tried that in the past, most recently I bolloxed the clean install of win 10 on an old win 7 computer I am selling - so before I worked out how to solve that problem I installed ubuntu. Which then couldn't use the wireless card to connect to the internet because it didn't have the drivers - which could only be downloaded from the internet. Internet research then suggested they might not exisr - and then I managed to reinstall windows. Having put linux on the system it had changed the architecture of the drive so windows couldn't install, I had to reformat within ubuntu - then windows couldn't find the partition - and after much searching I discovered I had to put commands in dos to sort that out.
Which is to say, consistent with my experience some years ago, linux always seems to be way more complexthan its proponenents make out - even in the newbie friendly versions. You can figure it out, but it takes considerable time.
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As with installing any operating system from scratch: Your Mileage May Vary.
With Linux the best thing to do is firstly run a 'live disk' from a CD/DVD or USB stick, which will let you see if everything works as it should without touching what is already installed on the PC's hard drive. Only when happy with that should you set about an actual installation.
Installing any of the main Linux distributions these days is basically a very slick and quick operation (more so than with Windows), BUT with the huge range of hardware combinations out in the wild some people will have difficulties, hence the wisdom of testing first.
Regardless of operating system (Linux, OS-X, Windows, other) installing from scratch is best done by someone with at least some idea of what they are doing. That may be as simple as using a spare machine to practice on before attempting the one that actually matters.
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I`d strongly recommend you take the free upgrade to windows 10, its soooo much better than 8.1
When the invite box for this pops up (and it does, with pretty high frequency), it always ensures me that all my files we still be there when I upgrade, but how about all my software?
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Indeed. From what I gather the chances are good that all your files will be fine, but the perennial advice to 'back everything up' is always good.
As for software, unless you can run a test upgrade---which you can if you use a 'virtual Machine' (VM), it is a case of suck-it-and-see.
Probably you will be okay, but there are no guarantees, least of all from Microsoft.
Legacy drivers for older hardware (scanners, etc.) may not be available for W10. You can probably check online for much of this as many folk will already have discovered what does and doesn't work after a W10 upgrade, and whether or not manufacturers have got round to fixing the breakages.
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Does that mean I'm never going to be able to move my music across? It's all stored in a hard drive, I was going to (eventually) put it onto another hard drive then connect that to my iPad, and I just assumed that would work.
You might be able to subscribe to iTunes Match (just over £20/year), which stores all your music in the cloud (even stuff you didn't buy from Apple). iTunes on your Mac (version 10.5.1 or later, which includes the version I linked to above) will synchronise your music with Apple's servers. Then you can also tell your iPad to synchronise there.
Failing that, there might be a third party Mac app that can handle transferring music onto the iPad. I'm afraid I don't know which ones are good though.
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Originally posted by luvanddaisies:
Does that mean I'm never going to be able to move my music across? It's all stored in a hard drive, I was going to (eventually) put it onto another hard drive then connect that to my iPad, and I just assumed that would work.
You might be able to subscribe to iTunes Match (just over £20/year), which stores all your music in the cloud (even stuff you didn't buy from Apple). iTunes on your Mac (version 10.5.1 or later, which includes the version I linked to above) will synchronise your music with Apple's servers. Then you can also tell your iPad to synchronise there.
Failing that, there might be a third party Mac app that can handle transferring music onto the iPad. I'm afraid I don't know which ones are good though.
Amy
This is what I ended up doing when I had a similar problem. I got everything into Match, and can listen to it all on any device with iTunes as long as I have an internet connection. However you only have something like 5GB free storage on the ipad or ipod so you can't download everything. So I just download things I listen to regularly offline or just for that offline listening session and then remove from the device.
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I`d strongly recommend you take the free upgrade to windows 10, its soooo much better than 8.1
When the invite box for this pops up (and it does, with pretty high frequency), it always ensures me that all my files we still be there when I upgrade, but how about all my software?
Well, it seemed t preserve everything when I did it from win 8, but I guess it depends on the software. What are you trying to hang on to ?
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That's good to know. The main thing would be BibleWorks, as that takes forever to install if I have to redo it. The rest of the stuff I could reinstall pretty quickly if there's a problem. It's just extra hassle... weren't computers meant to make our lives easier?
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Thanks for checking, I use BW9, so that should be fine.
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If you do take the 'upgrade'(!) route (and time is ticking on), then for heaven's sake take the trouble to do your research first, and if you decide to go for it consider clicking on 'Customise' when you get to the 'Settings' screen.
Only do this if you have any care about what your operating system supplier (Microsoft in this case) entitles itself to do with your machine and data.
Windows is inexorably becoming more and more intrusive and oppressive regarding 'ownership' of the user's computing experience. Microsoft ideally wish your computer to become a simple 'appliance' which you use, but they own and control.
On one level the advantages are obvious: computers are immensely complex, and most people have neither the interest nor training to keep them working properly (let alone actually USE them properly!), so it makes sense to lift that burden, as far as possible, from the hands and mind of the irresponsible user---just as is done with cars.
On another level many/most of us use our computers to enable us to manage very personal aspects of our lives. There is information and practices that are nobody's business but ours (both legally and socially). Added to that we may wish to use our computer as we choose, not as some irresponsible profit driven corporate agency chooses.
Windows 10 offers some improvements over previous iterations of Windows. It also offers a whole new way (for Microsoft) of how the operating system is managed and maintained. It opens up some major questions and risks, some of which can already be seen by the way Microsoft is attempting to persuade/coerce users into using W10---whether they want to or not.
In the end it's up to us to choose, and that includes how responsible we want to be for what the box in the corner does with the information we place on it.
Thankfully Windows is not the only option, and it still has things going for it, but as the old saying goes: caveat emptor.
This is a very balanced, kind and sensible post. Yes, indeed, thankfully Windows isn't the only option. To which I'd add, thankfully Apple and Windows aren't the only options.
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This is a computer problem, but I can't find a current computer thread.
A bit of background which may or may not be relevant:
Somebody at church sends out e-mails with attachments to a large group. For some reason I can open but not print these attachments, a problem I share with about 6 other recipients. My husband (on the same mailing list) can both open and print, so it's not a problem.
Today I received an e-mail, with attachment. When I tried to open it, I got a document I'd downloaded several years ago instead. I've tried several times, and the sender has re-sent it, but I'm still getting an old download. My husband has opened his attachment with no problem.
Why am I getting a random old download instead of the attachment?
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I don't know about the second one, but for the first one, our old printing set-up had trouble printing certain attachments when you just opened them and pressed 'print'; you had to download them, open up the download you'd saved somewhere, and then it would print fine.
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Originally posted by North East Quine:
It's the second one that's the problem; I only described the first in case it had a bearing on the second.
My husband thinks I must have inadvertently / absentmindedly opened the download within the last couple of days and failed to close it properly. I am sure I haven't done that and that I haven't looked at that download for years. Quite apart from anything else it's in a password protected file, so I'm unlikely to have opened it "absentmindedly."
Copied from the inquiries thread.
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Twice now my computer has suddenly shut down without any apparent reason. Any ideas why? (Windows XP.)
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Virus?
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Twice now my computer has suddenly shut down without any apparent reason. Any ideas why? (Windows XP.)
Thermal cutout because your fans are bunged up with dust etc.?
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Conswarned orneriness?
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It may be that the power supply is beginning to die or the disk is starting to go south.
I had my Dell Laptop die a few weeks ago. Back up what you have since you've been given a waraning.
As for the disk drive, run a good disk utility to see if it's beginning to have bad spots.
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Originally posted by Ariel:
Twice now my computer has suddenly shut down without any apparent reason. Any ideas why? (Windows XP.)
Any suspicious noises?
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Ariel
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It's a new secondhand one. Sometimes there's an audible increase in engine power when Facebook gets heavy or Firefox has too many windows open. Other than that it's been fine and silent.
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I had similar problems with my desktop PC, and suspected (goodness knows why!) overheating.
I installed SpeedFan which confirmed my diagnosis.
I opened up the PC and vacuum cleaned the processor heat sink and several other areas. Sorted!
Don't think it would be so easy to fix with a laptop though...
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Originally posted by Ariel:
It's a new secondhand one. Sometimes there's an audible increase in engine power when Facebook gets heavy or Firefox has too many windows open. Other than that it's been fine and silent.
That noise would be the fan(s) kicking to remove heat from your engine (processors).
IMO, the priority is to back up your data. Second would be to access your fans and heat sinks to remove dust. Unfortunately, as TonyK mentions, most laptops are not designed for this to be easy.
I would back up data first, because if it is imminent HD death, recovering data is problematic.
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Ariel
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This is a bulky sort of desktop, not a laptop, but I'll see what I can do. Thanks for all the advice! Some good leads to follow over the weekend - not least of all, backups.
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If you suspect dust then a can of compressed air is your friend. Point it at every heat sink and fan you can find, especially the one on top of the processor in the middle of the motherboard.
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Ariel
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This will undoubtedly make many people wince but I actually pointed the vacuum cleaner nozzle in the direction of the outside vents this morning, which have accumulated a shocking amount of dust since purchase, and was pleased to see the dust lift itself off and sail away. The pc sounds noticeably quieter now, as silent as when I first got it, and so far no problems. Something to keep an eye on.
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Two points re dust:
1. Don't leave a desktop base unit on the floor. The floor is where all the dust settles, so the base unit fans will pull that dust in and clog up the heat sinks, etc. So, make sure the box is raised off the floor, even a few inches will make a significant difference to the amount of dust inhaled.
2. Laptops HATE duvets - and bedding generally (and the clothes we're wearing) - they all block up the ventilation slots leading to over heating problems, not to mention dust inhalation.
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Just to encourage people to regularly de-dustify their deskies and lappies - I've now done that do my old 2004 DELL Inspiron 8600 laptop again, and lo and behold, one of the heatsinks had been rather and truly endusted. (These machines have easily removable, and thus cleanable, fans.)
Another go at using the ole trusty steed, which had led me to SoF, and which now is the kitchen lappie. ![[Axe murder]](graemlins/lovedrops.gif)
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Originally posted by Arethosemyfeet:
If you suspect dust then a can of compressed air is your friend. Point it at every heat sink and fan you can find, especially the one on top of the processor in the middle of the motherboard.
as an IT guy in our company discovered, don't do this with "butane-compressed" air, into a projector fan which is currently running to cool down a very hot bulb
cue some singed eyebrows for him, and some pretty blue flames for us to look at.
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Ariel
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Originally posted by Wesley J:
Just to encourage people to regularly de-dustify their deskies and lappies - I've now done that do my old 2004 DELL Inspiron 8600 laptop again, and lo and behold, one of the heatsinks had been rather and truly endusted. (These machines have easily removable, and thus cleanable, fans.)
Sorry, I'm not likely to disconnect a heavy, bulky base unit, unscrew the casing and clean the inside. I don't know what a heatsink looks like, and I've been told there are elements inside a computer you shouldn't attempt to touch unless you know what you're doing. It'll get cleaned on the outside when necessary and that's as much as I'm venturing on.
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